Im a bit late but i would say for sure that sukuna would straight up open his domain in a fight if he knows its a strong oponent with no knowldge of how jujutsu works and would would spam domain expansion especially if he knows he has little to no curse energy and has no domain to counter his domain
@Grim_Vs3 сағат бұрын
Well there won't be a way for Sukuna to tell how strong Deku is until they fight as the way sorcerers usually can tell is by the feeling and amount of cursed energy their opponent has also Sukuna’s domain is slower than Deku’s speed by a lot so its not realistic unless Deku just stands there for the beginning of the fight
@jareddiamond51332 күн бұрын
When looking at Homelander (regarding his strength, speed, abilities, etc.), I think it's worth mentioning that in "The Boys" TV Show, it's incredibly inconsistent.
@isu152stalin210 күн бұрын
1:09 No, it kinda looks more closely to a Harrier
@normallid10 күн бұрын
This is a hot take.
@John-wg7wg12 күн бұрын
The only thing I don't understand is how Voltron was able to withstand a star-destroying weapon that could literally obliterate stars?
@LuigiSpriteAnimations13 күн бұрын
Can’t the Chinese guy literally erase timelines in mk1..? Wouldn’t comp Homelander scale to that
@DominicRuiz2314 күн бұрын
Homelander said he was able to go to space in the show which means he can go above exit velosity
@user-lu6yz7rq3j15 күн бұрын
Please do one for mainline super man
@spideraty152915 күн бұрын
He will once he gets to 1000 subscribers in his (pr guy btw)
@ngunguyen141817 күн бұрын
Deku vs Luffy gear 5 pls
@DT2565918 күн бұрын
Ap would go to Cap as his shield’s sharp edges can be used to cut through more durable characters like Iron Man’s armor which can tank the svikovia explosion and the arc reactor explosion in Iron Man 1 and the his beam clash with Rhodey in Iron Man 2. Soldier Boy himself also got hurt by a fragment of his shield when it was damaged by Star Light’s beam and MM’s shotgun.
@DT2565919 күн бұрын
1:13 except that those same street tiers also have consistent scaling to heavy hitters. Rhino was a Hulk villain for a significant time in the comics, beaten up Iron Man and Nova. Scorpion has also beaten up Luke Cage and was Ms. Marvel villain for a while too. Doc Ock has also done similar feats as well. And the Sinister Six is classified as Avengers Level threats. Venom has also fought against Johnny Storm and bullied him despite having a weakness to high heat. Spider-Man has better planet scaling and arguments than Invincible like fighting silver dagger and doing better against him than Carol Danvers. In the same issue he was withstanding punches which Silver Dagger confirmed could individually destroy planets. He even performed better than The Thing when fighting Basilisk, the issue ending with both of then punching him so hard he crashes and blows up a big ass volcano.
@YoungShonen19 күн бұрын
💀 I can’t stand mfs who don’t show scans or calcs😭 like your just yapping without proof🌞
@Grim_Vs19 күн бұрын
Honestly that was a big fuck up on my part I usually include them in the video but I genuinely forgot since I rushed editing it but if you want any calc’s that I used you can my check out my discord server or imma put them in the description soon thanks for reminding me
@Kitchenfloor50720 күн бұрын
bro tryna be official divine 💀
@Nathan_Poster_EditZ17 күн бұрын
Man brought up mk Homelander💀 He isn’t even canon to the boys💀 Those are two different people
@Grim_Vs17 күн бұрын
@@Nathan_Poster_EditZ its comp 💀
@starbirds246422 күн бұрын
Mortal combat ain’t canon…
@Dinksteredits22 күн бұрын
Bro Can't Hear What He Said At The Beginning
@Baldursolostheverse21 күн бұрын
Yes it is
@starbirds246422 күн бұрын
Black noir is at least 5 times more resistant than a normal human…
@groovydudewithdumbintentions22 күн бұрын
his strongest feat is NOT killing Liu Kang, that is not canon. they make everyone the same level of power to the point Ghostface can beat Omni Man. so no, that is not his strongest feat, MK1 is inconsistent with the power scaling, especially with Homelander.
@KotalTotal22 күн бұрын
I just want to point out about the passenger plane. In that scene, it's not that he wasn't able to lift the plane. What he was implying was that his force would damage the plane even further. If a bird is enough to make a dent or even make a plane crash, imagine his strength going against the plane during the dive it was in. Superman was able to do it because DC ignores actual physics.
@mr.x342521 күн бұрын
birds make planes crash because they get into their engines, and can cause some windows to crack
@therealmr.incredible317915 күн бұрын
Homelander should’ve been able to hold up the Plane because of the ‘Force’ that allows him to Fly and Levitate. It’s practically low-level Reality Bending and The Boys Physics isn’t really all that Different from The MCU and Idrk why people keep saying The Boys- verse is more realistic than any other Comic verse. Yes, It’s a Horrible World where BAD Consequences come much too easily but that doesn’t matter. You put any of the MCU/Invincible/DCU Heroes in The Boysverse and They could perfectly work. Hell, Magic Probably works in this universe too.
@xav5552 күн бұрын
@@therealmr.incredible3179Honestly magic can literally be slapped on anything as an explanation so it’s a given it works in a verse with supernatural abilities
@monkemilitia22 күн бұрын
Did- did you use mortal combat as canon stats fo determine Homelander’s strength? 😭😭
@Grim_Vs22 күн бұрын
It’s comp so I’m using all versions of homelander
@Givemeyouroil-yx8iu22 күн бұрын
Large planet level is not how strong he is he needs to have city level destroying attacks to be that but homelander is only city or country level that’s all I can say
@Rap-Slinger21 күн бұрын
Mk homelander
@kingchurros902122 күн бұрын
I've been searching for someone to power scale this goated series
@turkeybeef626923 күн бұрын
Domain scaling isn't that valid when you consider that JJK characters literally can not and have not been show to output that level of energy in their maximum techniques, let alone their punches. We see this with Jogo, who's maximum technique (the logical peak of his ap, *maximum* technique) was only able to output town levels of energy. Sukuna just doesn't scale to Yuki's black hole. Sukuna's vague statement of being the strongest does not equate to him scaling above Yuki's Black Hole, as it's a technique that basically requires her to lose, which would mean that Sukuna being "the strongest" wouldn't apply too it, he can still be stronger than Yuki in general, but not her Black Hole. I don't even know how people interpret "destroy the world as we know it" as Sukuna overcoming the planets GBE in some unknown way. "As we know it" clearly implies that he'd destroy society. If one would continue to argue it means to affect the literal planet, then it wouldn't even mean to destroy it via overcoming it's GBE, as "as we know it" would imply that the planet itself still exists. Overall, his most generous scaling is anywhere from Town-City off of a town level Jogo and a (maybe) City level Gojo. His fastest is MHS, as black flash would be hit without difficulty by MHS+ characters, and he clearly aim dodged Kashimo as indicated by the scratch marks prior to the attack ever being launched. Assuming he's FTL, he's still getting blitzed and one shot. Good video, keep up the good work 👍🏼
@user-wo1fp7gb8n23 күн бұрын
I honestly believe they nerfed him in the show during season three and four
@user-wo1fp7gb8n23 күн бұрын
People say he is weakest Superman copy, but he just got nerfed in the show
@progaming339422 күн бұрын
@@user-wo1fp7gb8nhe's hit version of superman unlike flop dcue
@kumalala609423 күн бұрын
That was cool 4:55
@CalculusIsFun123 күн бұрын
Mk1 homelander can kill Omni man in some scenarios. That either means that version of Omni man is just that weak and homelander is normal, or that version of homelander is just that strong and Omni man is normal. I feel like the mk1 Viltrumite empire would be quite anxious to take down Homelanders home timeline if he was actually that strong. They would be terrified at the thought of a mutagen that had potential to make a regular human as strong if not stronger than a viltrumite with even more abilities than a viltrumite.
@VoughtsHomelander23 күн бұрын
Jit homelander is city level to city block. MK sure.
@Grim_Vs23 күн бұрын
Yea it’s comp
@YRIEL-ir2mk24 күн бұрын
I dont see why homelander scales to lui kangs strength. He killed him he doesn't directly scale to his strength I mean liu kang could have had average human durability but planet level strength
@Grim_Vs24 күн бұрын
That could be possible but Newton's third law states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. So basically for someone to throw or create something planetary they gotta be able to withstand it otherwise for example a character like deku who can’t would break their arm by throwing said punch.
@YRIEL-ir2mk24 күн бұрын
@@Grim_Vs i can see that but it looked like liu kang used his special powers to do that instead of actually using it with physical force and he was far as hell away from the black hole
@TheCosmosAwaits22 күн бұрын
@@YRIEL-ir2mkDude, Mk1 Homelander scales beyond him, point made.
@groovydudewithdumbintentions22 күн бұрын
no MK1 isn’t canon to Homelander’s canon strength so really you need to show us another example of his strongest feat.
@brunonascimento716020 күн бұрын
@@Grim_Vsliu kang isn't punching a black hole, he is casting a black hole, like a hax ability, so the 3rd law wouldn't aply
@LoveyDovyy25 күн бұрын
mk1 Homelander is crazy
@Nathan_Poster_EditZ17 күн бұрын
He not even canon to any of the verses He gets killed by ghostface that is only a human with a mask and a psycho with a knife
@Lumantrix8 күн бұрын
@@Nathan_Poster_EditZso does everyone else
@zorororonoa964125 күн бұрын
i think we cant count mk homelander but in comics and tw show i can see him scaling large city to country
@Matthew-up6dq23 күн бұрын
Why???
@TheCosmosAwaits22 күн бұрын
@@Matthew-up6dq Survived a point-blank explosion that leveled a chemical plant (775.189 tons of TNT/ Multi-City Block level+). (Had no visible damage) 2. • Flew from Washington D.C. to Hollywood in a short amount of time, potentially (Mach 70.3). 3. Can lift an airplane, which weighs around 975,000 pounds or 487.5 tons. 4. Superior to Stormfront, who can create tidal waves and hurricanes powerful enough to destroy entire villages and towns (8.6 Megatons of TNT City level). Faster than Groundhawk, who can dodge Nubia's lightning (Mach 637). Potentially and this all can have margin of error, but if you really look into his feats, the belief that he is a “building level fodder” slowly starts to reveal the unfortunate truth that this guy is actually pretty powerful. I would say he scales to around High City Level-Mountian level. And one more thing, the C4 explosion feat, he carried butcher, a 90-100kg man 23 times the speed of sound, roughly 1,650,000 pounds of force and technically strength.
@groovydudewithdumbintentions22 күн бұрын
MK Homelander is definitely not allowed, infact any MK guest character counterparts isn’t allowed because using them is not only not canon but inconsistent. If MK1 is planning to add GhostFace, we can see him easily taking out OmniMan in a fatality with a knife. Or even in his story he somehow kills Liu Kang
@TheCosmosAwaits22 күн бұрын
@@groovydudewithdumbintentions Still feats if it’s composite so it really doesn’t matter
@groovydudewithdumbintentions22 күн бұрын
@@TheCosmosAwaits this is really just Homelander if he went rogue so i don't think so.
@HulkHulk-t7y25 күн бұрын
Here's my research of Homelander. 1. Billy Butcher claimed that superhumans can swim across the Sun (27 million degrees Fahrenheit). 2. Can punch the opponent into the air where they fly into an oncoming passenger plane. 3. Said to be the strongest man in the whole world. 4. Homelander is considered a nuke.
@adam.the.ironman24 күн бұрын
They forget homelander in comics one time he picks a statue and load with Mack trucks in tons was 480 tons that just he bench press
@brunonascimento716020 күн бұрын
Dont you know figure of speech? The swimming across the sun is a metaphor
@LuigiSpriteAnimations13 күн бұрын
What episode did Billy butcher say that superhuman can do that???
@adam.the.ironman9 күн бұрын
@@HulkHulk-t7y bro if they can take heat vision who reach the temperature of 5000-7000°C that the heat of the sun and soldier boy in Russia he get burn by Oxy-acetylene flame who reach the temperature of 4000°C and she cannot burn soldier boy skin Cherche if you want to know more
@xav5552 күн бұрын
@@brunonascimento7160I mean the surface of the sun heat wise scales to city block level iirc. Comics or show homelander should be able to take that kind of energy
@HulkHulk-t7y25 күн бұрын
Homelander is faster than Soldier Boy, who can move fast enough to block heat vision (68.3% the speed of light).
@lovex138325 күн бұрын
Bro chill 🤓💀
@Iianator22 күн бұрын
Soldier Boy blocked starlights blasts
@extraterrestrialhorse972222 күн бұрын
He was aim-blocking and Starlight's blasts move at like Mach 9
@Iianator22 күн бұрын
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 Her powers are literally light manipulation and electricity absorption
@Iianator22 күн бұрын
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 stop the cope with "It might be plasma"
@HulkHulk-t7y25 күн бұрын
Homelander is considered a nuke when compared to the dynamite of Supes from the 1940's. Homelander One-shot Fire God Liu Kang, who can create a black hole (11 Yottatons of TNT/Large Planet level).
@bangchittybang19 күн бұрын
When did he do that
@HubertPrinklebottom19 күн бұрын
by that logic the joker is equal strength to spawn or liu kang
@LuigiSpriteAnimations13 күн бұрын
How is that planetary when it’s literally a black hole?
@sydsmith-go9mp25 күн бұрын
hi good video but the homelander threw in the comics plane is a harrier jet
@Grim_Vs25 күн бұрын
Thanks I’ll make sure to use this next time
@xavarex925 күн бұрын
I don't think that the PSI thing is right, Black Noir is WAY more resistant than an average human, 2x seems like a lowball
@Grim_Vs25 күн бұрын
it is but we don't have many ap/dura feats for black noir so 2x was the safest option
@xavarex925 күн бұрын
@@Grim_Vs I mean he did survive a big ass blast from the supe terrorist when he went to take him out
@Iianator22 күн бұрын
@@Grim_Vs2x is a massive down grade considering he can go through brick walls like nothing, and should be superior to the new noir who was no selling minigun round. Also the jet homelander threw was a Harrier, it looks nothing like an f14 or f15
@groovydudewithdumbintentions22 күн бұрын
@@Grim_Vsso 2x the average can survive a fire blast, literally standing right next to the source
@irisdaniels23187 күн бұрын
hes just below maeve @Grim_Vs
@user-adrsilva12325 күн бұрын
Yo Grim Please do How Strong truly is Guts(Berserk) No Downplaying!
@KingAut025 күн бұрын
A lot of assumptions, also that isnt a blackhole but over all good video
@Grim_Vs25 күн бұрын
Just wondering why wouldn’t that be a real black hole?
@ilovefosterdpeople28 күн бұрын
fair
@Quantum404-z3h29 күн бұрын
I just wanna say Cleve and dismantle does not dura neg if that was the case it would’ve cut right through yuta and itadorie and in the panel it’s shown that itadori tanks his Cleve and Gojo manage to tank sukuna’s domain expansion even tho it was only for a few seconds the fact that he still had slash wounds which would imply that sukuna’s domain expansion did hit Gojo so that would only mean that Cleve and dismantle does not dura neg
@Grim_Vs29 күн бұрын
@@Quantum404-z3h it does though as stated during Shibuya I think chapter 119 states he can adjust cleave depending on an opponent's toughness and take them down in one swoop. Also, the things you mention we are forgetting Yuji was actively lowering Sukuna’s cursed energy output with it already being low due to gojo. Also Yuji from my knowledge never tanked a cleave I remember when Higuruma was alive his cleave was actually very fatal to Yuji and he was down for a bit until he healed with rct. With gojo he was using simple domain and rct so he wouldn’t die to the domain. So yea Cleave is still durability negation
@Quantum404-z3h29 күн бұрын
@@Grim_Vs it doesn’t neg dura,sure yuji did use rct but still even after the first Cleve and dismantle he still wasn’t able to cut yuji Sure, he can make his attack more potent and stronger but to the point of actually making them strong enough to completely neg durability is a pretty big stretch especially someone as strong as deku
@thedarknessinthelight982421 күн бұрын
Cleave isn't durability negation. The "toughness" in question is your CE reinforcement. It adjusts to your defense/armor, not your durability/muscles. Btw the adjustment is exclusive to Cleave, since he needs to touch you to know how resistant your armor is. Dismantle takes longer to power up since he needs to chant.
@Quantum404-z3h9 күн бұрын
@@thedarknessinthelight9824 which would mean it does not not dura neg
@thedarknessinthelight98249 күн бұрын
@@Quantum404-z3h Durability negation would be able to take away a set number of HP from you at once, like 5%, 20%, etc. Defense negation only deals as much damage as your body's reinforcement, meaning it's damage is inconsistent and varies from person to person.
@MaskfromtheHeavenАй бұрын
Hello I just would like to say that I just watch a good half of your live stream and I truly enjoyed it. It's a shame that I didn't enter the live stream early but hopefully next time
@Re_Zero_FanАй бұрын
Subaru takes every category due to beako and arc 8 upscaling.
@Grim_VsАй бұрын
@@Re_Zero_Fan honestly I could be right as when I made this I only watched the anime’s and didn’t read light novels yet
@Re_Zero_FanАй бұрын
@@Grim_Vsyea but even anime Subaru scales higher in every catagory. Due to contracting with Beatrice he takes abilities (the only one kazuma would get prior to season 2). And his physical feats in season 1 alone put him above kazuma
@iransantibanez7531Ай бұрын
@@Re_Zero_Fanliteralmente desde el capítulo 1 al final kazuma ya es más fuerte que Subaru XD en casi todo. Estuvo un mes entero trabajando de albañil levantando rocas, madera etc y etc. Y mientras tras subía de nivel más grande se hace la diferencia.
@Re_Zero_FanАй бұрын
@@iransantibanez7531 I don’t speak Spanish
@Grim_VsАй бұрын
@@Re_Zero_Fan he said “literally from chapter 1 to the end kazuma is already stronger than Subaru XD in almost everything. He spent a whole month working as a bricklayer lifting rocks, wood, etc., etc. And as you level up, the bigger the difference is made. “ ngl this is a bad argument 😭
@mrducky..Ай бұрын
Tengen and his wives bouta jump Rengoku 🙏
@user-kg8ti1ou1yАй бұрын
No, itadori really has a high chance of winning. Without domain, okkotsu is very bad at cursed energy manipulation. It means if itadori and okkotsu fights without domain, current yuji will likely win. Even the domain, okkotsu has two types of attack in his domain. 1. Guaranteed hit Okkotsu also has a guaranteed hit. But not in the way like gojo. His guaranteed hit has to have one of his copied CT. Which means the only thing he can do is to use angel’s CT. Which is not very affective against yuji. 2. CT blades. This is not a guaranteed hit. And it’s a random attack. Which is also not affective with yuji. Conclusion: to win against yuji. Okkotsu must end the fight within the domain. If not, he loses.
@Grim_VsАй бұрын
@@user-kg8ti1ou1y disagree this ignores the fact that Yuta has been shown to not only be a better fighter (Can go back and forth with Sukuna without aid) Also for your first point maybe I don’t understand what you mean but it’s been stated that it selects one of the many cursed techniques he copied meaning he isn’t just limited to angels CT for a sure hit affect. Also even without a domain Rika has feats of not only being stronger than Yuji. Yuta has been shown to be faster too (Yuji couldn’t even keep up with Sukuna) conclusion: Yuta is faster, battle iq, abilities, hax, with rika arguably stronger, and is more experienced
@user-kg8ti1ou1yАй бұрын
@@Grim_Vs i think you didn't read the recent manga. 1. yuta is slower than maki, and maki and yuji is almost the same level. 2. rika is weaker than maki. yuji has surpassed maki in strength. 3. yuta's domain can select one of his copied CT, but nothing affective compared to angel's CT. 4. yuji is better at using cursed energy. yuta isn't. gojo states yuta's manipulation as dirty and bad while gojo states yuji has fast learning and good at cursed energy. in current 'awaken yuji' yuji is faster than maki(but not reflexes), stronger than maki. and has doubled or trippled his cursed energy and not wasted though he uses RCT frequently. without the domain, yuta vs yuji is pointless. even with rika. you know maki can actually beat yuta, and current yuji is stronger than maki or toji.
@Grim_VsАй бұрын
@user-kg8ti1ou1y what feats would show that Rika is weaker than Maki or even show that Yuji is on the same level of speed as Maki while I agree Yuji is stronger than Maki she don’t have a single feat that would be as strong as Rika. Also Cursed Speech, Air manipulation, and Precognition would be pretty effective against Yuji Itadori. Also official translations never say anything about bad or dirty just that he needs to learn to be precise with it.
@user-kg8ti1ou1yАй бұрын
@@Grim_Vs 1. gojo says to yuta two times.(read the manga) 2. yuji is able to hit black flash easier than any other era of sorcerer. do you think air manipulation, cursed speech, precognition is better than current yuji's black flash? 3. rika was almost as equal to sukuna. but sukuna's raw strength is weaker than maki.
@Grim_VsАй бұрын
@@user-kg8ti1ou1y saying read the manga isn’t valid when trying to have a discussion as I already said in chapter 261 it says nothing of bad but needing to learn to be precise. You shifted the goal post by trying to say if I think the abilities are better than a black flash when the original topic on that is would they be effective against Yuji which they are. Then finally let’s say to be generous and say Yuji is stronger than Rika by a bit it still doesn’t take away the multiple disadvantages I already stated in my first response that Yuji has against Yuta
@African-AmericanGooseАй бұрын
Gojo ap scaling via domain is kinda dumb, bc jjk largest domain has a radius of 200m (sukuna's domain), has far as i know infinite void isnt a infinite space. Lightspeed gojo doesn't exist he's mhs+ and small city at best , sukuna aim dodge.
@Grim_VsАй бұрын
@@African-AmericanGoose I didn’t scale gojo using his domain I used disaster cursed Jogo and Dagon who via creation feats would generate mountain level feats which is valid as they made them in a short time with their cursed energy the radius wouldn’t really affect what they created inside their domain. Even ignoring that Gojo’s cursed energy alone caused a earthquake that was scaled to island level. Then when it comes to speed I haven’t seen proof to consider that sukuna aim dodged kashimos ems waves
@YoussefAldabasАй бұрын
sorry to be that nerd but the laser is confirmed to be light so light speed
@Grim_VsАй бұрын
It depends on the distance between you and the thing you are reacting to
@Kitchenfloor507Ай бұрын
what was bro on honestly
@Grim_VsАй бұрын
FAxs
@Kitchenfloor507Ай бұрын
@@Grim_Vs imma do my research see if ur right
@Grim_VsАй бұрын
@@Kitchenfloor507 You know what props to u actually
@cachopomantico922Ай бұрын
We all saw the same show right? The one where not a single supe is actually trained for combat and all of them are useless as shit in a real problem. So why the fuck i keep seeing people making this type of shit i'm not even a Marvel fan but is clearly cap in everything
@Grim_VsАй бұрын
Soldier Boy was a well actual soldier, unlike other Superheros in the boys. So yes he does have training even if it's not on par with Captain America's skills he still has some battle IQ.
@cachopomantico922Ай бұрын
@@Grim_Vs eeeeeeh no he wasn't, not in the comic not in the show. No D-day, no ww2, no war at all just a product of Vought like everyone else. I tought they made it pretty clear with Mallory's flashback...like i understand pleople hype the character because is badass but the whole point of the fucking show is that supes are not superheros they are just regular people or even more useless but with powers
@Grim_VsАй бұрын
@@cachopomantico922 In the same flashback, he is a test run for Supes in the military so I'm still not wrong in saying he was an actual soldier and if you remember near the end they got attacked and he was able to react to that and fight with her. Also in the Boy's diabolical black noir has pretty good showings of battle Iq against Homelander who doesn't. Soldier Boy > Black noir as seen in a flashback so yes he does have some form of battle iq not as much as captain America but still does
@-imjustaneditor-Ай бұрын
Ok, maybe in movies but comic Cap slams
@Grim_VsАй бұрын
If this was comics I don't think this would be a debate 😭
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Im a bit late but i would say for sure that sukuna would straight up open his domain in a fight if he knows its a strong oponent with no knowldge of how jujutsu works and would would spam domain expansion especially if he knows he has little to no curse energy and has no domain to counter his domain
Well there won't be a way for Sukuna to tell how strong Deku is until they fight as the way sorcerers usually can tell is by the feeling and amount of cursed energy their opponent has also Sukuna’s domain is slower than Deku’s speed by a lot so its not realistic unless Deku just stands there for the beginning of the fight
When looking at Homelander (regarding his strength, speed, abilities, etc.), I think it's worth mentioning that in "The Boys" TV Show, it's incredibly inconsistent.
1:09 No, it kinda looks more closely to a Harrier
This is a hot take.
The only thing I don't understand is how Voltron was able to withstand a star-destroying weapon that could literally obliterate stars?
Can’t the Chinese guy literally erase timelines in mk1..? Wouldn’t comp Homelander scale to that
Homelander said he was able to go to space in the show which means he can go above exit velosity
Please do one for mainline super man
He will once he gets to 1000 subscribers in his (pr guy btw)
Deku vs Luffy gear 5 pls
Ap would go to Cap as his shield’s sharp edges can be used to cut through more durable characters like Iron Man’s armor which can tank the svikovia explosion and the arc reactor explosion in Iron Man 1 and the his beam clash with Rhodey in Iron Man 2. Soldier Boy himself also got hurt by a fragment of his shield when it was damaged by Star Light’s beam and MM’s shotgun.
1:13 except that those same street tiers also have consistent scaling to heavy hitters. Rhino was a Hulk villain for a significant time in the comics, beaten up Iron Man and Nova. Scorpion has also beaten up Luke Cage and was Ms. Marvel villain for a while too. Doc Ock has also done similar feats as well. And the Sinister Six is classified as Avengers Level threats. Venom has also fought against Johnny Storm and bullied him despite having a weakness to high heat. Spider-Man has better planet scaling and arguments than Invincible like fighting silver dagger and doing better against him than Carol Danvers. In the same issue he was withstanding punches which Silver Dagger confirmed could individually destroy planets. He even performed better than The Thing when fighting Basilisk, the issue ending with both of then punching him so hard he crashes and blows up a big ass volcano.
💀 I can’t stand mfs who don’t show scans or calcs😭 like your just yapping without proof🌞
Honestly that was a big fuck up on my part I usually include them in the video but I genuinely forgot since I rushed editing it but if you want any calc’s that I used you can my check out my discord server or imma put them in the description soon thanks for reminding me
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Man brought up mk Homelander💀 He isn’t even canon to the boys💀 Those are two different people
@@Nathan_Poster_EditZ its comp 💀
Mortal combat ain’t canon…
Bro Can't Hear What He Said At The Beginning
Yes it is
Black noir is at least 5 times more resistant than a normal human…
his strongest feat is NOT killing Liu Kang, that is not canon. they make everyone the same level of power to the point Ghostface can beat Omni Man. so no, that is not his strongest feat, MK1 is inconsistent with the power scaling, especially with Homelander.
I just want to point out about the passenger plane. In that scene, it's not that he wasn't able to lift the plane. What he was implying was that his force would damage the plane even further. If a bird is enough to make a dent or even make a plane crash, imagine his strength going against the plane during the dive it was in. Superman was able to do it because DC ignores actual physics.
birds make planes crash because they get into their engines, and can cause some windows to crack
Homelander should’ve been able to hold up the Plane because of the ‘Force’ that allows him to Fly and Levitate. It’s practically low-level Reality Bending and The Boys Physics isn’t really all that Different from The MCU and Idrk why people keep saying The Boys- verse is more realistic than any other Comic verse. Yes, It’s a Horrible World where BAD Consequences come much too easily but that doesn’t matter. You put any of the MCU/Invincible/DCU Heroes in The Boysverse and They could perfectly work. Hell, Magic Probably works in this universe too.
@@therealmr.incredible3179Honestly magic can literally be slapped on anything as an explanation so it’s a given it works in a verse with supernatural abilities
Did- did you use mortal combat as canon stats fo determine Homelander’s strength? 😭😭
It’s comp so I’m using all versions of homelander
Large planet level is not how strong he is he needs to have city level destroying attacks to be that but homelander is only city or country level that’s all I can say
Mk homelander
I've been searching for someone to power scale this goated series
Domain scaling isn't that valid when you consider that JJK characters literally can not and have not been show to output that level of energy in their maximum techniques, let alone their punches. We see this with Jogo, who's maximum technique (the logical peak of his ap, *maximum* technique) was only able to output town levels of energy. Sukuna just doesn't scale to Yuki's black hole. Sukuna's vague statement of being the strongest does not equate to him scaling above Yuki's Black Hole, as it's a technique that basically requires her to lose, which would mean that Sukuna being "the strongest" wouldn't apply too it, he can still be stronger than Yuki in general, but not her Black Hole. I don't even know how people interpret "destroy the world as we know it" as Sukuna overcoming the planets GBE in some unknown way. "As we know it" clearly implies that he'd destroy society. If one would continue to argue it means to affect the literal planet, then it wouldn't even mean to destroy it via overcoming it's GBE, as "as we know it" would imply that the planet itself still exists. Overall, his most generous scaling is anywhere from Town-City off of a town level Jogo and a (maybe) City level Gojo. His fastest is MHS, as black flash would be hit without difficulty by MHS+ characters, and he clearly aim dodged Kashimo as indicated by the scratch marks prior to the attack ever being launched. Assuming he's FTL, he's still getting blitzed and one shot. Good video, keep up the good work 👍🏼
I honestly believe they nerfed him in the show during season three and four
People say he is weakest Superman copy, but he just got nerfed in the show
@@user-wo1fp7gb8nhe's hit version of superman unlike flop dcue
That was cool 4:55
Mk1 homelander can kill Omni man in some scenarios. That either means that version of Omni man is just that weak and homelander is normal, or that version of homelander is just that strong and Omni man is normal. I feel like the mk1 Viltrumite empire would be quite anxious to take down Homelanders home timeline if he was actually that strong. They would be terrified at the thought of a mutagen that had potential to make a regular human as strong if not stronger than a viltrumite with even more abilities than a viltrumite.
Jit homelander is city level to city block. MK sure.
Yea it’s comp
I dont see why homelander scales to lui kangs strength. He killed him he doesn't directly scale to his strength I mean liu kang could have had average human durability but planet level strength
That could be possible but Newton's third law states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. So basically for someone to throw or create something planetary they gotta be able to withstand it otherwise for example a character like deku who can’t would break their arm by throwing said punch.
@@Grim_Vs i can see that but it looked like liu kang used his special powers to do that instead of actually using it with physical force and he was far as hell away from the black hole
@@YRIEL-ir2mkDude, Mk1 Homelander scales beyond him, point made.
no MK1 isn’t canon to Homelander’s canon strength so really you need to show us another example of his strongest feat.
@@Grim_Vsliu kang isn't punching a black hole, he is casting a black hole, like a hax ability, so the 3rd law wouldn't aply
mk1 Homelander is crazy
He not even canon to any of the verses He gets killed by ghostface that is only a human with a mask and a psycho with a knife
@@Nathan_Poster_EditZso does everyone else
i think we cant count mk homelander but in comics and tw show i can see him scaling large city to country
Why???
@@Matthew-up6dq Survived a point-blank explosion that leveled a chemical plant (775.189 tons of TNT/ Multi-City Block level+). (Had no visible damage) 2. • Flew from Washington D.C. to Hollywood in a short amount of time, potentially (Mach 70.3). 3. Can lift an airplane, which weighs around 975,000 pounds or 487.5 tons. 4. Superior to Stormfront, who can create tidal waves and hurricanes powerful enough to destroy entire villages and towns (8.6 Megatons of TNT City level). Faster than Groundhawk, who can dodge Nubia's lightning (Mach 637). Potentially and this all can have margin of error, but if you really look into his feats, the belief that he is a “building level fodder” slowly starts to reveal the unfortunate truth that this guy is actually pretty powerful. I would say he scales to around High City Level-Mountian level. And one more thing, the C4 explosion feat, he carried butcher, a 90-100kg man 23 times the speed of sound, roughly 1,650,000 pounds of force and technically strength.
MK Homelander is definitely not allowed, infact any MK guest character counterparts isn’t allowed because using them is not only not canon but inconsistent. If MK1 is planning to add GhostFace, we can see him easily taking out OmniMan in a fatality with a knife. Or even in his story he somehow kills Liu Kang
@@groovydudewithdumbintentions Still feats if it’s composite so it really doesn’t matter
@@TheCosmosAwaits this is really just Homelander if he went rogue so i don't think so.
Here's my research of Homelander. 1. Billy Butcher claimed that superhumans can swim across the Sun (27 million degrees Fahrenheit). 2. Can punch the opponent into the air where they fly into an oncoming passenger plane. 3. Said to be the strongest man in the whole world. 4. Homelander is considered a nuke.
They forget homelander in comics one time he picks a statue and load with Mack trucks in tons was 480 tons that just he bench press
Dont you know figure of speech? The swimming across the sun is a metaphor
What episode did Billy butcher say that superhuman can do that???
@@HulkHulk-t7y bro if they can take heat vision who reach the temperature of 5000-7000°C that the heat of the sun and soldier boy in Russia he get burn by Oxy-acetylene flame who reach the temperature of 4000°C and she cannot burn soldier boy skin Cherche if you want to know more
@@brunonascimento7160I mean the surface of the sun heat wise scales to city block level iirc. Comics or show homelander should be able to take that kind of energy
Homelander is faster than Soldier Boy, who can move fast enough to block heat vision (68.3% the speed of light).
Bro chill 🤓💀
Soldier Boy blocked starlights blasts
He was aim-blocking and Starlight's blasts move at like Mach 9
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 Her powers are literally light manipulation and electricity absorption
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 stop the cope with "It might be plasma"
Homelander is considered a nuke when compared to the dynamite of Supes from the 1940's. Homelander One-shot Fire God Liu Kang, who can create a black hole (11 Yottatons of TNT/Large Planet level).
When did he do that
by that logic the joker is equal strength to spawn or liu kang
How is that planetary when it’s literally a black hole?
hi good video but the homelander threw in the comics plane is a harrier jet
Thanks I’ll make sure to use this next time
I don't think that the PSI thing is right, Black Noir is WAY more resistant than an average human, 2x seems like a lowball
it is but we don't have many ap/dura feats for black noir so 2x was the safest option
@@Grim_Vs I mean he did survive a big ass blast from the supe terrorist when he went to take him out
@@Grim_Vs2x is a massive down grade considering he can go through brick walls like nothing, and should be superior to the new noir who was no selling minigun round. Also the jet homelander threw was a Harrier, it looks nothing like an f14 or f15
@@Grim_Vsso 2x the average can survive a fire blast, literally standing right next to the source
hes just below maeve @Grim_Vs
Yo Grim Please do How Strong truly is Guts(Berserk) No Downplaying!
A lot of assumptions, also that isnt a blackhole but over all good video
Just wondering why wouldn’t that be a real black hole?
fair
I just wanna say Cleve and dismantle does not dura neg if that was the case it would’ve cut right through yuta and itadorie and in the panel it’s shown that itadori tanks his Cleve and Gojo manage to tank sukuna’s domain expansion even tho it was only for a few seconds the fact that he still had slash wounds which would imply that sukuna’s domain expansion did hit Gojo so that would only mean that Cleve and dismantle does not dura neg
@@Quantum404-z3h it does though as stated during Shibuya I think chapter 119 states he can adjust cleave depending on an opponent's toughness and take them down in one swoop. Also, the things you mention we are forgetting Yuji was actively lowering Sukuna’s cursed energy output with it already being low due to gojo. Also Yuji from my knowledge never tanked a cleave I remember when Higuruma was alive his cleave was actually very fatal to Yuji and he was down for a bit until he healed with rct. With gojo he was using simple domain and rct so he wouldn’t die to the domain. So yea Cleave is still durability negation
@@Grim_Vs it doesn’t neg dura,sure yuji did use rct but still even after the first Cleve and dismantle he still wasn’t able to cut yuji Sure, he can make his attack more potent and stronger but to the point of actually making them strong enough to completely neg durability is a pretty big stretch especially someone as strong as deku
Cleave isn't durability negation. The "toughness" in question is your CE reinforcement. It adjusts to your defense/armor, not your durability/muscles. Btw the adjustment is exclusive to Cleave, since he needs to touch you to know how resistant your armor is. Dismantle takes longer to power up since he needs to chant.
@@thedarknessinthelight9824 which would mean it does not not dura neg
@@Quantum404-z3h Durability negation would be able to take away a set number of HP from you at once, like 5%, 20%, etc. Defense negation only deals as much damage as your body's reinforcement, meaning it's damage is inconsistent and varies from person to person.
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Subaru takes every category due to beako and arc 8 upscaling.
@@Re_Zero_Fan honestly I could be right as when I made this I only watched the anime’s and didn’t read light novels yet
@@Grim_Vsyea but even anime Subaru scales higher in every catagory. Due to contracting with Beatrice he takes abilities (the only one kazuma would get prior to season 2). And his physical feats in season 1 alone put him above kazuma
@@Re_Zero_Fanliteralmente desde el capítulo 1 al final kazuma ya es más fuerte que Subaru XD en casi todo. Estuvo un mes entero trabajando de albañil levantando rocas, madera etc y etc. Y mientras tras subía de nivel más grande se hace la diferencia.
@@iransantibanez7531 I don’t speak Spanish
@@Re_Zero_Fan he said “literally from chapter 1 to the end kazuma is already stronger than Subaru XD in almost everything. He spent a whole month working as a bricklayer lifting rocks, wood, etc., etc. And as you level up, the bigger the difference is made. “ ngl this is a bad argument 😭
Tengen and his wives bouta jump Rengoku 🙏
No, itadori really has a high chance of winning. Without domain, okkotsu is very bad at cursed energy manipulation. It means if itadori and okkotsu fights without domain, current yuji will likely win. Even the domain, okkotsu has two types of attack in his domain. 1. Guaranteed hit Okkotsu also has a guaranteed hit. But not in the way like gojo. His guaranteed hit has to have one of his copied CT. Which means the only thing he can do is to use angel’s CT. Which is not very affective against yuji. 2. CT blades. This is not a guaranteed hit. And it’s a random attack. Which is also not affective with yuji. Conclusion: to win against yuji. Okkotsu must end the fight within the domain. If not, he loses.
@@user-kg8ti1ou1y disagree this ignores the fact that Yuta has been shown to not only be a better fighter (Can go back and forth with Sukuna without aid) Also for your first point maybe I don’t understand what you mean but it’s been stated that it selects one of the many cursed techniques he copied meaning he isn’t just limited to angels CT for a sure hit affect. Also even without a domain Rika has feats of not only being stronger than Yuji. Yuta has been shown to be faster too (Yuji couldn’t even keep up with Sukuna) conclusion: Yuta is faster, battle iq, abilities, hax, with rika arguably stronger, and is more experienced
@@Grim_Vs i think you didn't read the recent manga. 1. yuta is slower than maki, and maki and yuji is almost the same level. 2. rika is weaker than maki. yuji has surpassed maki in strength. 3. yuta's domain can select one of his copied CT, but nothing affective compared to angel's CT. 4. yuji is better at using cursed energy. yuta isn't. gojo states yuta's manipulation as dirty and bad while gojo states yuji has fast learning and good at cursed energy. in current 'awaken yuji' yuji is faster than maki(but not reflexes), stronger than maki. and has doubled or trippled his cursed energy and not wasted though he uses RCT frequently. without the domain, yuta vs yuji is pointless. even with rika. you know maki can actually beat yuta, and current yuji is stronger than maki or toji.
@user-kg8ti1ou1y what feats would show that Rika is weaker than Maki or even show that Yuji is on the same level of speed as Maki while I agree Yuji is stronger than Maki she don’t have a single feat that would be as strong as Rika. Also Cursed Speech, Air manipulation, and Precognition would be pretty effective against Yuji Itadori. Also official translations never say anything about bad or dirty just that he needs to learn to be precise with it.
@@Grim_Vs 1. gojo says to yuta two times.(read the manga) 2. yuji is able to hit black flash easier than any other era of sorcerer. do you think air manipulation, cursed speech, precognition is better than current yuji's black flash? 3. rika was almost as equal to sukuna. but sukuna's raw strength is weaker than maki.
@@user-kg8ti1ou1y saying read the manga isn’t valid when trying to have a discussion as I already said in chapter 261 it says nothing of bad but needing to learn to be precise. You shifted the goal post by trying to say if I think the abilities are better than a black flash when the original topic on that is would they be effective against Yuji which they are. Then finally let’s say to be generous and say Yuji is stronger than Rika by a bit it still doesn’t take away the multiple disadvantages I already stated in my first response that Yuji has against Yuta
Gojo ap scaling via domain is kinda dumb, bc jjk largest domain has a radius of 200m (sukuna's domain), has far as i know infinite void isnt a infinite space. Lightspeed gojo doesn't exist he's mhs+ and small city at best , sukuna aim dodge.
@@African-AmericanGoose I didn’t scale gojo using his domain I used disaster cursed Jogo and Dagon who via creation feats would generate mountain level feats which is valid as they made them in a short time with their cursed energy the radius wouldn’t really affect what they created inside their domain. Even ignoring that Gojo’s cursed energy alone caused a earthquake that was scaled to island level. Then when it comes to speed I haven’t seen proof to consider that sukuna aim dodged kashimos ems waves
sorry to be that nerd but the laser is confirmed to be light so light speed
It depends on the distance between you and the thing you are reacting to
what was bro on honestly
FAxs
@@Grim_Vs imma do my research see if ur right
@@Kitchenfloor507 You know what props to u actually
We all saw the same show right? The one where not a single supe is actually trained for combat and all of them are useless as shit in a real problem. So why the fuck i keep seeing people making this type of shit i'm not even a Marvel fan but is clearly cap in everything
Soldier Boy was a well actual soldier, unlike other Superheros in the boys. So yes he does have training even if it's not on par with Captain America's skills he still has some battle IQ.
@@Grim_Vs eeeeeeh no he wasn't, not in the comic not in the show. No D-day, no ww2, no war at all just a product of Vought like everyone else. I tought they made it pretty clear with Mallory's flashback...like i understand pleople hype the character because is badass but the whole point of the fucking show is that supes are not superheros they are just regular people or even more useless but with powers
@@cachopomantico922 In the same flashback, he is a test run for Supes in the military so I'm still not wrong in saying he was an actual soldier and if you remember near the end they got attacked and he was able to react to that and fight with her. Also in the Boy's diabolical black noir has pretty good showings of battle Iq against Homelander who doesn't. Soldier Boy > Black noir as seen in a flashback so yes he does have some form of battle iq not as much as captain America but still does
Ok, maybe in movies but comic Cap slams
If this was comics I don't think this would be a debate 😭
@@Grim_Vs 🤣