Why does Windows XP look so horrible on CRTs? Flat screens like you're using look fine but whenever I run XP on one of my CRTs it is a dark horrible image.
@davidmckendry449112 сағат бұрын
I started getting into pc repair back in the xp era.These days my nostalgia fix is that I use one of my spare PC's to run all the unreleased versions of windows in VMware.Such as many versions of longhorn,Whistler Neptune Memphis Chicago etc.
@davidmckendry449112 сағат бұрын
Your videos are both informative and relaxing at the same time.I mainly work with modern pcs.I owned old compaq 286s 386s and 486s but at that time I was very young and did not have the confidence or knowledge to work on them internally.
@davidmckendry449112 сағат бұрын
I love watching your pc repair videos they are so relaxing.Thanx josh
@2xtreem4u18 сағат бұрын
i would have tried 32bit linux on it
@2xtreem4u18 сағат бұрын
if you wondering why so few comments it's youtube fault they censor almost everything
@Mino_PC_Notebook19 сағат бұрын
www.youtube.com/@Mino_PC_Notebook
@EastAngliaUK23 сағат бұрын
I had a PC do this a few weeks back I tried 8 ddr2 sticks only 1 worked where it stopped beeping and posted
@gumbi792 күн бұрын
at the time it was either these style cases or htpc cases
@griff54762 күн бұрын
Picked one up for a fiver. Ex education model. Slapped Ubuntu on it and it runs like a charm. Great small cheap laptop for basic use. Lives in my work bag
@Hadisabetghadam2 күн бұрын
Maybe Motherboard Need To Recap Some Motherboard Never Load OS properly If Has Bad Caps
@MadManDarkJedi2 күн бұрын
Bad Capacitors are common problem. .
@tellyjoossens41862 күн бұрын
Shuttle had some good and bad motherboards. Apart from that, the psu's weren't that reliable. The design and case were fantastic for its time! The carry case and mobile monitor were also a cool add-on.
@junker152 күн бұрын
I had a pair of SS51s back in 2004. They worked fine being powered on 24/7 for about 5 years, but then I discovered that the PSUs had capacitor plague. They wouldn't even start without a delay, then there would be just enough angry pixies that made it into the duff caps for it to turn over. Luckily, I was able to get some new PSUs that fit and that solved that problem. I wasn't looking forward to fighting all that selastic they glued the caps in with to prevent vibration failures...
@user-mf1sv6ec7g3 күн бұрын
some 90's caplators bad guitlaly. better chane those new looks me 512mt ddr 400 mhz rams to me
@TechieZeddie3 күн бұрын
Was my first non-standard form factor PC. I believe it was the first heatpipe cooler I owned too. I thought the cooling would be amazing because it exhausted the heat directly off the heat sink to the outside. It's just too bad it was a P4 and not an Athlon XP or 64. Like, most people, i built it for Windows Media Center and it was amazing. Was a fan of MCE and Xbox 360 extenders until the bitter end.
@davidmckendry44913 күн бұрын
I think the last one you were working on is thermal throttling and is in a restart loop.I noticed the fans were initially running quite loud until you changed the settings in bios.Sometimes you can't trust everything the bios shows you.Probably needs fully dismantling and thoroughly cleaned.On the others have you tried resetting the CMOS yet on them?Might work on some of them?
@SombreroCat2703 күн бұрын
Those old CPUs didn't have any temperature protection built in, it's possible a few got burnt up if the heatsink has been clogged up. Northbridges also fail more often in those small form factors. You can try swapping around CPUs and find out if you got some dead motherboards or dead CPUs.
@RetroJay19743 күн бұрын
SN45G's had a serious flaw! I cannot remember exactly what it was but if you changed something at the bios level, it would nuke the machine outright! The SN45G was based around the SN41G but lacked certain things. I think there was a bios update that blocked these options out. It was pretty bad back in the day! I knew of a fair few people that killed their shuttles doing pretty much nothing at all wrong.
@semloh18703 күн бұрын
They come from old juke boxes? I don't understand or can't visualise that. How were they used?
@joshwa1234Күн бұрын
Digital jukeboxes with a touch-screen, often used in pubs and other places like that
@laurencejohnson41063 күн бұрын
Well it got a bit further, perhaps try using a known good HD., which does not have that software on it, or disconnect the HD., and try to boot from a disc or a flash drive,
@xsc10003 күн бұрын
I had Shuttle XPC with P4 and Athlon64. Both were very reliable, Athlon one was used more than 10 years. So its quite strange to see its not running well.
@semloh18703 күн бұрын
In my Shuttle XPC I put a black cd drive and a black floppy drive and it looks very smart- much better and sharper looking than that dated 2004 all silver. Mine had a beige cd drive and a white memory card drive when I got it for 15 pounds. It looked ugly.
@jonsmith50874 күн бұрын
you have tried your PSU tester on them right and dead?
@joshwa12342 күн бұрын
Good point! I'm not sure why I didn't do this in this video!
@cageliner5 күн бұрын
It's protecting the capacitors from vibration from what I read. It's a relative of silicone caulking and can be removed with white vinegar and a toothbrush, apparently. Quite messy, though. After you have properly drained the caps, of course 😜
@darkhelmet1694 күн бұрын
Sometimes that glue can become conductive if it absorbs water, but usually it turns brown when that happens. Low wattage FlexATX power supplies are at least easy to find replacements for on eBay.
@WinXP_SP15 күн бұрын
I own a shuttle PC, but mine has a built in LCD screen and came with Windows 7 N.
@2xtreem4u5 күн бұрын
That glue is there so that components don't get lose (i bit too much of it)
@maddingo5 күн бұрын
The cases are kewl, I had one of these w/ a dead motherboard (and psu) got a new FSP Flex ATX psu and a mini ITX board / cpu / memory and SSD... using it as a server at home here... as long as one is realistic about what they try to shove into these little / low airflow cases.. The cases are pretty neat. but if one wants a gaming build probably not the best for modern graphics cards certainly.
@shanehebert3965 күн бұрын
I had several of these back in the day. They were fantastic for LAN parties. They even had custom bags to carry them in.
@jonmayer6 күн бұрын
I loved my Core 2 Duo Shuttle PC. I don't have it anymore, but it was a joy when I had it.
@joshwa12346 күн бұрын
Follow up video (Part 2) here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nq59wZKLg7unp7A.html
@funkyfilter88956 күн бұрын
clearing the cmos ?
@jonchapman68216 күн бұрын
The CR2032’s have likely already been dead for 20 years, not sure that would make any difference but it’s always good practice to install a fresh coin cell early in the process. There’s other comments saying these systems won’t POST with a dead CMOS battery, but I’ve got 3 of these systems and mine absolutely do not care if the battery is new, dead or even missing…they work just fine.
@joshwa12346 күн бұрын
@@jonchapman6821 I will have to check it out. These systems have stickers showing that the CMOS battery has been changed every year, so maybe it is part of an annual servie they've had.
@xbmc796 күн бұрын
For Athlon XP and older, you need a PSU with 25A+ on the 5V rail. Of course you have to replace the capacitors on the MB.
@fatbelly24386 күн бұрын
they also put these into touchscreen arcade quiz machines
@joshwa12346 күн бұрын
@@fatbelly2438 that's where these ones are from : arcade/slot/quiz type systems. If I get one working better I should be able to have a look at the software on there.
@Mino_PC_Notebook6 күн бұрын
www.youtube.com/@Mino_PC_Notebook
@timmooney75286 күн бұрын
I had an SN41G2. I went through 3 compact psu's with it. When I took it out of regular service I tried to install linux on it, and kept getting errors. I ended up installing Win 7 on it, and hooking up a full sized psu externally to it.
@julianneEVdmca6 күн бұрын
1: you dont get any picture on those pc cuz your motherboard GEN use the old onboard. on this gen if your motherboard battery is dead you not gonna get any signal. you most change the motherboard battery = clean coms > leave it without battery for 2 min > then use the new battery and it fixed. { its a method for old gen onboard windows-pc-machine at P-3 to LGA 478 up to LGA 775/771. so of its onboard by defalt use this method } 2: you deal with old electronic and old pc. so first clean all the ram slut and cpu pin with "Dry thinner aka thinner-20.000 or alcohol" + toothbrush. { clean every "Copper-connections } 3: not your all psu is dead! { Electrolytic capacitors need to be replaced } for those 2 who turn on = mostly need to replaced 12v and 5V capacitors= its clean the output voltage to motherboard { they always close to red and yellow wire} also check that two big capacitors on input 110/220 part . 4: crashing windows on that part is a {software/driver issues} not hardware = reinstall the os and install the right driver of motherboard also that nv-chip . - you can also use ssd on that sata-1 ( but its not gonna be fast ) but you can use any sata hard drive up to 320gb cuz that old IDE-hdd is way slow and im sure its health isnt great after 20 yo. ( its not effect on retro look cuz it already has sata port ) anyway that was fun to watch, thanks a lot.
@semloh18706 күн бұрын
I have a socket 462 of these. I replaced the caps and it works but only if I drop the CPU speed lower. It crashes if I try to get it to run at the Athlon XP's native speed. It's hot and loud and I don't really like it.
@LiquidEnvyDundee6 күн бұрын
Love the video. I have a working one of these I use as a retro PC. I did some digging, it looks like the "GiGames" that shows on the BIOS splash screen (probably a custom splash screen for them) seems to be a Spanish company who make games machines. There's a high possibility these machines (or at least the one that boots) were used in casino games machines or one of those quiz machines that you used to see in pubs, likely with a touch screen attached and perhaps interfaces for buttons (hence the serial cards?) Edit - Sorry, I watched the videos out of order and now see you said they're from old jukeboxes!
@user-gl8tf7br8k6 күн бұрын
I have a 2006 shuttle mini pc. The components are expensive and needs to be imported to be replaced. You'll have to manually resolder the "defective" component in. Though i wouldn't repair it since it's an ancient computer now. The only usable thing is the 200w power supply which i could somehow make use of for my dc devices. The fan and heatsink could be used for diy projects. Cmos battery is long dead. Etc etc. I loved that pc, the psu cable/connectors looks cool too, but unusable.
@Doofindork6 күн бұрын
I remember having that exact model of Shuttle PC. It fried three graphics cards before my dad got sick of fixing it. I loved that thing, but by the time I was getting a new PC, school started providing us with laptops already, so I was set.
@joshwa12346 күн бұрын
@@Doofindork wow! Sounds like there were loads of bad ones!
@mjsolomon54276 күн бұрын
I had one of those!
@scorchio897 күн бұрын
I had a Shuttle PC back in 2004 (ish)... I loved it right up to the point where it baked my expensive ATI video card. Good times!
@joshwa12347 күн бұрын
@@scorchio89 ouch!
@semloh18706 күн бұрын
That happened to me too with a nice Geforce 4TI. Never put a good graphics card inside one of these heatboxes. Mine is a socket 462.
@ferjarvis28417 күн бұрын
Had a Shuttle X PC years ago it was the worst PC i ever had the power supply went pop & the CPU burned out
@joshwa12347 күн бұрын
@@ferjarvis2841 ouch!
@user-qg9wy1yk6t7 күн бұрын
awesome video! 👌
@joshwa12345 күн бұрын
@@user-qg9wy1yk6t thanks, glad you like :)
@RetroJay19747 күн бұрын
These machines are from a time when boards were populated with dodgy/fake capacitors. I really liked these shuttles, mainly the Intel based ones! I used to use Windows XP, Radeon All in wonder and Audigy 1024. I cloned a few so they were exactly the same spec wise. I recorded thousands of hours of TV with them. But over time they began to fail, falling over as capacitors failed or the power supplies failed. EDIT: 4:30 onwards, capacitors around the cpu area look domed. They have failed!
@laurencejohnson41067 күн бұрын
The one PC., which did fire up is stuck in a boot loop and that could be caused by a failing hard drive, so perhaps you could try a known working drive.
@joshwa12347 күн бұрын
That's a good idea! I've not given up on these PCs yet, as it would be good to explore the contents of the drive a bit on video :)
@laurencejohnson41067 күн бұрын
Many years ago I obtained a Shuttle PC., but there were always problems with it and it's end came when the PSU., went bang. I have found that the HP., 800 G1 USDT., PCs., are far more reliable.
@Knaeckebrotsaege7 күн бұрын
Every single one of these will have bad caps in both the PSU and on the board. They always do, even up into the Core2 era, and are fairly easy to fix (ie replace caps instead of boardswapping BS). At least these have AGP slots so they would make for neat mini retro game boxes. But to add insult to injury, these look like they've been outside for a long time being rained on, judging by the rust and residue on the plugs etc ... The fact that any of them still give some signs of life is mindboggling tbh. edit: This would be a weekend-project to get most (if not all) of these up and running again, then flip them for probably 5-10x of what you paid for them (if anything)
@Laziter736 күн бұрын
True that.. I would go for a recap. Bad caps brought computers from the era down by huge numbers. I've repaired quite a number of boards myself just by recapping them.
@Knaeckebrotsaege6 күн бұрын
@@Laziter73 Sadly with anything Shuttle made, it isn't based on time periods, but penny pinching. *All* XPCs and related families (including their own-branded PSUs in them), and even the few desktop motherboards they made have cheapo junk caps from primarily OST and Tayeh, both known to dry up (from a shrinking rubber bung in the bottom) and fail without obvious signs, OR bulge if extremely stressed or thermally cooked before they had time to dry out. Things only got better when they switched to all-polymer caps around the Core i-series era, but by that point hardly anyone bought them anymore due to their unreliability reputation...
@dolphhandcreme2 күн бұрын
Exactly! The caps from this era are crap.
@MJ-mk8jg7 күн бұрын
I was hoping it would be the same issue on them all & nothing too drastic but maybe you could strip em down & get one working. Thanks for the video
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Why does Windows XP look so horrible on CRTs? Flat screens like you're using look fine but whenever I run XP on one of my CRTs it is a dark horrible image.
I started getting into pc repair back in the xp era.These days my nostalgia fix is that I use one of my spare PC's to run all the unreleased versions of windows in VMware.Such as many versions of longhorn,Whistler Neptune Memphis Chicago etc.
Your videos are both informative and relaxing at the same time.I mainly work with modern pcs.I owned old compaq 286s 386s and 486s but at that time I was very young and did not have the confidence or knowledge to work on them internally.
I love watching your pc repair videos they are so relaxing.Thanx josh
i would have tried 32bit linux on it
if you wondering why so few comments it's youtube fault they censor almost everything
www.youtube.com/@Mino_PC_Notebook
I had a PC do this a few weeks back I tried 8 ddr2 sticks only 1 worked where it stopped beeping and posted
at the time it was either these style cases or htpc cases
Picked one up for a fiver. Ex education model. Slapped Ubuntu on it and it runs like a charm. Great small cheap laptop for basic use. Lives in my work bag
Maybe Motherboard Need To Recap Some Motherboard Never Load OS properly If Has Bad Caps
Bad Capacitors are common problem. .
Shuttle had some good and bad motherboards. Apart from that, the psu's weren't that reliable. The design and case were fantastic for its time! The carry case and mobile monitor were also a cool add-on.
I had a pair of SS51s back in 2004. They worked fine being powered on 24/7 for about 5 years, but then I discovered that the PSUs had capacitor plague. They wouldn't even start without a delay, then there would be just enough angry pixies that made it into the duff caps for it to turn over. Luckily, I was able to get some new PSUs that fit and that solved that problem. I wasn't looking forward to fighting all that selastic they glued the caps in with to prevent vibration failures...
some 90's caplators bad guitlaly. better chane those new looks me 512mt ddr 400 mhz rams to me
Was my first non-standard form factor PC. I believe it was the first heatpipe cooler I owned too. I thought the cooling would be amazing because it exhausted the heat directly off the heat sink to the outside. It's just too bad it was a P4 and not an Athlon XP or 64. Like, most people, i built it for Windows Media Center and it was amazing. Was a fan of MCE and Xbox 360 extenders until the bitter end.
I think the last one you were working on is thermal throttling and is in a restart loop.I noticed the fans were initially running quite loud until you changed the settings in bios.Sometimes you can't trust everything the bios shows you.Probably needs fully dismantling and thoroughly cleaned.On the others have you tried resetting the CMOS yet on them?Might work on some of them?
Those old CPUs didn't have any temperature protection built in, it's possible a few got burnt up if the heatsink has been clogged up. Northbridges also fail more often in those small form factors. You can try swapping around CPUs and find out if you got some dead motherboards or dead CPUs.
SN45G's had a serious flaw! I cannot remember exactly what it was but if you changed something at the bios level, it would nuke the machine outright! The SN45G was based around the SN41G but lacked certain things. I think there was a bios update that blocked these options out. It was pretty bad back in the day! I knew of a fair few people that killed their shuttles doing pretty much nothing at all wrong.
They come from old juke boxes? I don't understand or can't visualise that. How were they used?
Digital jukeboxes with a touch-screen, often used in pubs and other places like that
Well it got a bit further, perhaps try using a known good HD., which does not have that software on it, or disconnect the HD., and try to boot from a disc or a flash drive,
I had Shuttle XPC with P4 and Athlon64. Both were very reliable, Athlon one was used more than 10 years. So its quite strange to see its not running well.
In my Shuttle XPC I put a black cd drive and a black floppy drive and it looks very smart- much better and sharper looking than that dated 2004 all silver. Mine had a beige cd drive and a white memory card drive when I got it for 15 pounds. It looked ugly.
you have tried your PSU tester on them right and dead?
Good point! I'm not sure why I didn't do this in this video!
It's protecting the capacitors from vibration from what I read. It's a relative of silicone caulking and can be removed with white vinegar and a toothbrush, apparently. Quite messy, though. After you have properly drained the caps, of course 😜
Sometimes that glue can become conductive if it absorbs water, but usually it turns brown when that happens. Low wattage FlexATX power supplies are at least easy to find replacements for on eBay.
I own a shuttle PC, but mine has a built in LCD screen and came with Windows 7 N.
That glue is there so that components don't get lose (i bit too much of it)
The cases are kewl, I had one of these w/ a dead motherboard (and psu) got a new FSP Flex ATX psu and a mini ITX board / cpu / memory and SSD... using it as a server at home here... as long as one is realistic about what they try to shove into these little / low airflow cases.. The cases are pretty neat. but if one wants a gaming build probably not the best for modern graphics cards certainly.
I had several of these back in the day. They were fantastic for LAN parties. They even had custom bags to carry them in.
I loved my Core 2 Duo Shuttle PC. I don't have it anymore, but it was a joy when I had it.
Follow up video (Part 2) here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nq59wZKLg7unp7A.html
clearing the cmos ?
The CR2032’s have likely already been dead for 20 years, not sure that would make any difference but it’s always good practice to install a fresh coin cell early in the process. There’s other comments saying these systems won’t POST with a dead CMOS battery, but I’ve got 3 of these systems and mine absolutely do not care if the battery is new, dead or even missing…they work just fine.
@@jonchapman6821 I will have to check it out. These systems have stickers showing that the CMOS battery has been changed every year, so maybe it is part of an annual servie they've had.
For Athlon XP and older, you need a PSU with 25A+ on the 5V rail. Of course you have to replace the capacitors on the MB.
they also put these into touchscreen arcade quiz machines
@@fatbelly2438 that's where these ones are from : arcade/slot/quiz type systems. If I get one working better I should be able to have a look at the software on there.
www.youtube.com/@Mino_PC_Notebook
I had an SN41G2. I went through 3 compact psu's with it. When I took it out of regular service I tried to install linux on it, and kept getting errors. I ended up installing Win 7 on it, and hooking up a full sized psu externally to it.
1: you dont get any picture on those pc cuz your motherboard GEN use the old onboard. on this gen if your motherboard battery is dead you not gonna get any signal. you most change the motherboard battery = clean coms > leave it without battery for 2 min > then use the new battery and it fixed. { its a method for old gen onboard windows-pc-machine at P-3 to LGA 478 up to LGA 775/771. so of its onboard by defalt use this method } 2: you deal with old electronic and old pc. so first clean all the ram slut and cpu pin with "Dry thinner aka thinner-20.000 or alcohol" + toothbrush. { clean every "Copper-connections } 3: not your all psu is dead! { Electrolytic capacitors need to be replaced } for those 2 who turn on = mostly need to replaced 12v and 5V capacitors= its clean the output voltage to motherboard { they always close to red and yellow wire} also check that two big capacitors on input 110/220 part . 4: crashing windows on that part is a {software/driver issues} not hardware = reinstall the os and install the right driver of motherboard also that nv-chip . - you can also use ssd on that sata-1 ( but its not gonna be fast ) but you can use any sata hard drive up to 320gb cuz that old IDE-hdd is way slow and im sure its health isnt great after 20 yo. ( its not effect on retro look cuz it already has sata port ) anyway that was fun to watch, thanks a lot.
I have a socket 462 of these. I replaced the caps and it works but only if I drop the CPU speed lower. It crashes if I try to get it to run at the Athlon XP's native speed. It's hot and loud and I don't really like it.
Love the video. I have a working one of these I use as a retro PC. I did some digging, it looks like the "GiGames" that shows on the BIOS splash screen (probably a custom splash screen for them) seems to be a Spanish company who make games machines. There's a high possibility these machines (or at least the one that boots) were used in casino games machines or one of those quiz machines that you used to see in pubs, likely with a touch screen attached and perhaps interfaces for buttons (hence the serial cards?) Edit - Sorry, I watched the videos out of order and now see you said they're from old jukeboxes!
I have a 2006 shuttle mini pc. The components are expensive and needs to be imported to be replaced. You'll have to manually resolder the "defective" component in. Though i wouldn't repair it since it's an ancient computer now. The only usable thing is the 200w power supply which i could somehow make use of for my dc devices. The fan and heatsink could be used for diy projects. Cmos battery is long dead. Etc etc. I loved that pc, the psu cable/connectors looks cool too, but unusable.
I remember having that exact model of Shuttle PC. It fried three graphics cards before my dad got sick of fixing it. I loved that thing, but by the time I was getting a new PC, school started providing us with laptops already, so I was set.
@@Doofindork wow! Sounds like there were loads of bad ones!
I had one of those!
I had a Shuttle PC back in 2004 (ish)... I loved it right up to the point where it baked my expensive ATI video card. Good times!
@@scorchio89 ouch!
That happened to me too with a nice Geforce 4TI. Never put a good graphics card inside one of these heatboxes. Mine is a socket 462.
Had a Shuttle X PC years ago it was the worst PC i ever had the power supply went pop & the CPU burned out
@@ferjarvis2841 ouch!
awesome video! 👌
@@user-qg9wy1yk6t thanks, glad you like :)
These machines are from a time when boards were populated with dodgy/fake capacitors. I really liked these shuttles, mainly the Intel based ones! I used to use Windows XP, Radeon All in wonder and Audigy 1024. I cloned a few so they were exactly the same spec wise. I recorded thousands of hours of TV with them. But over time they began to fail, falling over as capacitors failed or the power supplies failed. EDIT: 4:30 onwards, capacitors around the cpu area look domed. They have failed!
The one PC., which did fire up is stuck in a boot loop and that could be caused by a failing hard drive, so perhaps you could try a known working drive.
That's a good idea! I've not given up on these PCs yet, as it would be good to explore the contents of the drive a bit on video :)
Many years ago I obtained a Shuttle PC., but there were always problems with it and it's end came when the PSU., went bang. I have found that the HP., 800 G1 USDT., PCs., are far more reliable.
Every single one of these will have bad caps in both the PSU and on the board. They always do, even up into the Core2 era, and are fairly easy to fix (ie replace caps instead of boardswapping BS). At least these have AGP slots so they would make for neat mini retro game boxes. But to add insult to injury, these look like they've been outside for a long time being rained on, judging by the rust and residue on the plugs etc ... The fact that any of them still give some signs of life is mindboggling tbh. edit: This would be a weekend-project to get most (if not all) of these up and running again, then flip them for probably 5-10x of what you paid for them (if anything)
True that.. I would go for a recap. Bad caps brought computers from the era down by huge numbers. I've repaired quite a number of boards myself just by recapping them.
@@Laziter73 Sadly with anything Shuttle made, it isn't based on time periods, but penny pinching. *All* XPCs and related families (including their own-branded PSUs in them), and even the few desktop motherboards they made have cheapo junk caps from primarily OST and Tayeh, both known to dry up (from a shrinking rubber bung in the bottom) and fail without obvious signs, OR bulge if extremely stressed or thermally cooked before they had time to dry out. Things only got better when they switched to all-polymer caps around the Core i-series era, but by that point hardly anyone bought them anymore due to their unreliability reputation...
Exactly! The caps from this era are crap.
I was hoping it would be the same issue on them all & nothing too drastic but maybe you could strip em down & get one working. Thanks for the video