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i own suzuki 8s. my question to you is is that good to install power comander 6 to increase the power.
Excellent work. You deserve more views... I subbed!
If its down to price the 650 is a miles better deal
Yes, the V-Strom valve checks are an expensive proposition, but a my mechanic - a life-long Suzuki qualified person with over 30 years under his belt - told me that he has done scores of them and has never seen one that needed a thing. He did two engines for me, an SV650 and a DL650, and both were right on spec as he assured me they would be. I have therefore decided to stretch the next interval a good bit …but that’s just me.
Nice! No wonder they’re known for their bulletproof reliability.
Had a new Trident 660… problems from day one, the ignition wouldn’t recognize the key and it would me leave stranded for hours 50 miles away from home…. I would have to turn the key off and on like 1000 times before it would grant me with contact lights…. Road assistance 0, I would spend hours on the phone with them answering stupid questions 100x while turning my key on and off in order to try to get back home. The bike was 3x in dealership for a couple of days, third time they finally changed antenna on the ignition assembly. Traded in the bike immediately after they “repaired “ it on the third attempt. The bike looked cute, plenty of power, great riding experience BUT TRIUMPH Never ever again!!! PS Great video man!
Wow! That is a horrible experience man! Sorry to hear about that. Thank you for sharing though, it does help people be aware and make up their mind.
I usually never leave comments to video but I had to leave one for you. This was one of the best reviews that I´ve ever seen. You go direct to the point, talking about the differences between the bikes without taking too much time and making me want to skip something. Amazing job! Keep up the good work
Thank you so much for taking the time to write these kind, encouraging word. This means the world to me. You have a great day! - Faraz
I wouldn't recommend starting on anything smaller than a 600cc or getting a 1000cc at all if you're just gonna be street riding a 1000 will overheat in traffic they are generally more expensive to maintain and a 600 is going to do all of the squid shit you wanna do anyway so I'd say just stick with a 600 I started on a R3 and had it for about 3 months before I picked up an R6 then about a year later got a gsxr1000 had it for around 6 months then sold it and my R3 and I'm completely happy with my R6 for me that's all I need
Nice and crisp comparison....
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Haha! Amreeka main reh k sasur zabaan terhi ho jaat hai bhai! :D
V-Strom 650 has a regular service every 12.000 km and it's pretty cheap. In my service book there was written every 6000 km but 3 different dealers confirmed that it is 12000 km now.
Even better! Wins more browny points in my books too!
Nicely done, thanks for including Australia:)
Thank you! I have friends in Australia, can't ignore them :)
No 140+H/P CB1000R ?
Haha! No. I rode the CB1000R a couple of times and I couldn't convince myself to include it in this comparison. It's too powerful to be compared fairly with these bikes and too underpowered to be compared with flagship naked bikes which are getting crazier by the way. It is good, fun, Sunday morning bike though.
@@RiderXp 👍🏽 After 15 years of no bike bought a fresh 2018 900RS in 2020 from a late 70s old man, his family wanted him to get rid of his bikes after a minor electric scooter crash, he drew the line at getting rid of his BMW S1000R. He didn’t say but the 900RS had signs of being flashed, rubber ecu casing had the razor blade cuts on the side retainers for easy R&I) no snatchey throttle, not as fast as my sake rockets of yore but fast, very street-able and smooth, roared like an old KZ 1000 at high revs. Sold it last summer 🥲
@@coastalhillbilly3419 Of all these bikes, the Z900RS is indeed the more most reminiscent of UJMs and I can see that in a lot of comments. I did get to ride it eventually. The one I rode was also flashed and tuned and hence no snatchy throttle. The brakes weren't good though but that was probably because of lack of upkeep. I'm glad you at least enjoyed... time for a new one maybe... I did like the Triumphs too by the way. If they weren't expensive, I would have considered the Thruxton.
@@RiderXp Thruxton was on my short list and is the best looking cafe racer IMO but it’s not Japanese which is a deal breaker for motorcycles (and cars) for me. There is going to be more motorcycles in my future, just in no hurry as my circle is getting old and hardly anyone rides anymore, not sure what I’m going to get or want. Great content, keep up the good work RiderXp!
Love your channel, BTW. Here in Australia, the Trident is only available in the knee capped LAMS version of 60HP. The RRP prices makes it as one of the most expensive LAMS on the market. More than an MT07. Which is a real shame.
Thank you! 60HP on a Trident would be pretty disappointing. It is certainly more premium than the MT07 so the price difference makes sense to me. I wonder how much does it cost to unrestrict it to full power?
great video! however, no fuel economy discussion?
Thank you! I did mention the range at 7:42, but seems like I was still experimenting with my comparison format back then. This video was a while ago. Thanks for the feedback though, it is included in my newer videos.
Absolutely LOVE my Tiger 660 Cons No cruise control 1st gear is WORTHLESS Wind buffeting Mirrors are too small Other than that, this is by far the best bike I've ever owned!!
Awesome! I'm glad you found the bike you love.
For your body size 1050 might be big and heavy but for the 6 foot heavy giants who need more power to carry them, especially with passenger, it may be the right choice vs the 650
That’s a fair point!
@@RiderXp I'm similar size as you and I found it too heavy but the 650 fit me like a glove
Awesome! I’m actually considering getting one for myself. I’ve test ridden 90+ bikes for my review videos and the Vstrom 650 is my favorite one
@@RiderXp at this point of time 800 might be better option, depending on price difference at your location. Edit: the 800 needs premium fuel vs regular for the 650. So 650 might be better for touring to more remote locations.
@@RiderXp Surprisingly, the Honda Africa Twin also feels easy to maneuver (vs other bigger bikes) even though it's a bigger bike
Today I bought 2000 SV650S, didn’t ride yet, since I’m still expanding my Driving Licence, has Exil exhaust and I already can tell it’ll be fun
Congrats! It’s gonna be mad fun!!!
So......can you run the z900rs on regular 87 octane?.....i thought that was not good.
Kawasaki does recommend Octane 91, even though the engine is a detuned version of the one in the Z900 which revs higher and has higher compression ratio. To be safe, I would say stick to Kawasaki's recommendation. (that's probably why I said, you 'might be' able to get away with regular).
Love my '22 black 650 XT Adventure. Wouldn't trade for any of these bikes. I'm sure they're all fine machines, but after having 2 3rd gen 650's, these bikes continue to amaze me. From being overloaded with gear and my gf up long, steep grades on the highway in 105 deg. weather to twistier than twisty mountain roads the little VTwin never gives up. And no matter what anyone says, I admire the presence of the DL.It looks as cool as my HD Low Rider S when it's sitting next to it.
I’ve had the opportunity to ride and review about 90 bikes in the past 2 years and the VStrom 650 is hands down my favorite bike so far. I’m not a fan of how it looks but man it’s the most fun bike i’ve ever ridden!
They are not really "retro". They just look like bikes, not like a rocket ship.
In 2024, rockeship riders are calling normal bikes retro! :)
My Triumph 660 has around 90hp and will get up and go I cannot even fathom 199hp on 2 wheels!!!
I'm with you. That's the point I wanted to drive with the main video this short has been clipped from.
Great video bro.
Thanks bro
Well the bike is basically a ktm. All it’s parts are made by ktm
Then it's probably as reliable (or not) as KTMs
I prefer 650!
I keep going back and forth between 650 & 800.
Always put a decent pipe on it and get rid of the rubbish Cat
Did the same. Now ride the MV Agusta Superveloce 800.
That’s a beautiful bike!
Nice review. Have to point out the Tiger 900 you list specs for and the one you rode are two different bikes. The '24 you didn't ride feels more powerful, the seat is more comfortable, the vibes are mostly gone and the engine heat is far better than the earlier one you rode (can tell easily by the dash and different style mirrors). My personal opinion after testing each for my ergos and riding style, I think the Tracer 9 GT+ just edges out the '24 Tiger 900 GT Pro with the XR being a far far distant 3rd.
Thanks! I did get the last year's version (since I'm not big enough yet to get access to Media bikes fresh off the press). Thanks for pointing out that the new one has improved upon those things because out of the 3, it was my favorite one. Cheers!
CFMoto made a solid start and seems set to keep improving their products and presence. Takes a lot of belief, hard work and money. Kudos.
This was very helpful
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Faraz whats up bro!!! nice fraking video man! see ya soon at Jennings!
Thanks bud! I’m probably gonna do UCF in September, hope to see you there!
Might pick up a Trident today, was thinking about Trident MT07 and CB650R. Finally came down to price or I probably would have picked the Honda CB, even though its not in this video.
Congrats! I’ve owned the CBR (2 yrs, 20k), you’d enjoy the Trident more. They’re both good bikes but the Triple strikes a better torque/power balance for everyday riding.
I left immediately when the main focus was the sound. Nonsense!
The main focus is how it makes you feel when you ride it, but you never found out because you left too soon. Thanks for the feedback though, I wish you well.
Yes exactly what I did too! The 2021 XSR900 has all the "unchangeable fundamentals" right, and the rest can be customized according to my own preference. In fact, as experiences and skills improves there is never a perfect bike directly from the factory without some level of customizations.
Right on!
At 10:07 you mentioned that the Versys was close behind the V-Strom in fuel efficiency. Didn't you mean the Tiger was close behind?
Yes I did. Good that I had the numbers on screen. I would like to add that these are relatively indicators, active figures vary based on several factors, throttle happiness, traffic and terrain usually being the ones impacting it the most.
Yes I did mean the Tiger! Thank you for keeping me on my toes. :)
I liked the use of Zack Courts' "giggle score" in the comparison, which in your estimation the V-Strom won handily. I always referred to the V-Strom 650 engine as not overly powerful, and yet very "satisfying". The V-Strom also scores near perfect on my own "smile per $" rating. As a matter of fact, I have owned about 40 bikes in 52 years of riding, and I like the 645cc Suzuki 90 degree twin so well that I currently own a V-Strom 650 AND an SV650. 😎
Thank you! That’s quite a lot of experience. I too love that engine quite a lot and was pleasantly surprised when i rode the SV for the first time. I can totally why one would love to have both. I’m actually seriously considering replacing my xsr900 with the VStrom, have been debating between the 650 for the engine and 800 for the slightly better dash. I’m glad you enjoyed the video, please share it with others and help me grow the channel. Thanks!
@@RiderXp Thanks for the great comparison. I will certainly be checking out the channel and watching for more content. 👍 For a rider of my extensive experience and rather advanced age, who still loves to ride but is starting to require less "heft", and has already owned and/or ridden everything under the sun and has nothing left to prove, and therefore cares nothing at all about excessive power or image, the DL650ABS Adventure hits all the buttons really, really well. It is a capable tourer and country road explorer. It is all-day comfortable. It has a reasonable seat height. It is rather lightweight, and therefore easy to roll in and out of the garage, and to flick around when under way. It requires very little maintenance. It gets excellent fuel economy. It looks nice - at least to these old eyes. It is proven to last a really long time. The motor and its unique power delivery is SWEET, and SMOOTH, and SATISFYING. And perhaps best of all, it has a very retirement-friendly price tag, especially on the used market. What's not to love?
@ralphcantrell3214 Agreed 100%. I don’t have as many years of experience but thanks to the channel, have been able to at least test ride lots of bikes. The best thing that happened to me was going to the track. It helped me scratch the speed itch in a safe environment and when I started riding street again, the need for speed was replaced with need for enjoying the scenery and soaking up the sun. So now to me street riding is just about enjoying the scenery and camaraderie and track is when I feel like scratching the speed and cornering itch. Very happy to connect with riders from all walks of life, experience levels and style of bikes. Starting this channel is the best thing I did for my sanity. Am grateful everyday for the love and support I get. Cheers!
Faraz went above and beyond to create this gem of a video perfect for motorcycle buyers.
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Excellent video!!! I am deciding between a 2019 Ducati Scrambler 1100 base and a 2019 Triumph Speed Twin 1200 for the same price. It will be a beach bike here in FL. I have others MCs for other purposes and I was Indian's Welding Engineer in the Gilroy, CA manufacturing days. I have a Challenger and really enjoy it. Which way would you lean towards for a beach bike, Ducati or Triumph?
Thanks for the kind words. I would lean in favor of the Triumph because the Ducati looks a little smaller in person. Also, I liked the relaxed vibe of the Triumph even though it has more power. Also, I’m told the Ducati’s are little more cumbersome to work on relative to Triumphs if that is also a consideration. Hope that helps. Please consider sharing the video with others who may find it helpful.
10:12 NC750X's range would be 350km Versys 650's range would be 410km
VSTROM650 ALL DAY, if you want reliability and confort for long trips.
Agreed! I got the opportunity to ride all 3 Vstroms back to back, you may enjoy that video as well. Here’s the link kzread.info/dash/bejne/jHiLuKuzgKvRgpM.htmlsi=nHXUKgxi6D9GYObv
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It's probably just me but i couldn't digest the information, everything too fast.
I do try and deliver a lot of information in a short amount of time since most people seem to prefer that. But I am aware the pace may be too fast sometimes and I’m still working on finding a balance. For the existing video I can only suggest watching it at 0.75x speed in the youtube player.
I’ve got a 22 Tracer 9 GT. Love it! The more I ride it the more I want to ride it. It’s been years since I had a bike that I want to ride in the cold or rain. As far as looks, when I got it I thought the same, it’s different, the longer I own it the more I love the looks. It’s the kind of bike you love it more the longer you own it I think. As far as heat I don’t think it’s to bad. I had a Thunderstroke. It was a blast furnace 😂😂
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Without the V engine it's just a Strom 😁
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Articulate, thorough and excellent review/ comparo. Thanks!
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Ist nicht richtig gps gemessen Aprilia top speed ebenfalls 240 km/h nicht modifiziert alles Serie
The f 900 xr has 105 hp not 95. It has an A2 comlliant version which has 95 hp
In 2024, the price difference is now over 3k. I'm looking for a new bike but I don't care about any track riding. That's not my thing nor do I care about comparing dicks to anybody else over who's bike is faster.. But I like both of these bikes and I'm kind of undecided on which one to get 😩
I like how you think. Tbh, if it’s going to be street riding only I would consider 650 class naked bikes over 600cc sportbikes. Those are a lot more comfortable, practical, better on maintenance and fuel and still a lot of fun to ride. Just my two cents.
@@RiderXp Yes sir.. I like those as well. Much more practical indeed and also more budget friendly.. Thank you 🙏
You might find this one useful. Slightly bigger bikes, but if you can ride sensibly, these are some fun bikes I had the opportunity to test ride: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iGmhzKqHpbuvc84.html
Wrong! Vstrom 250 is best 😂
Amazing review
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Terrific comparison. (Might be the only person on YT still using a Hero 4!)
Thank you! and yes, I might be the only person rocking a Hero4 Silver which goes to show it’s not the equipment that makes good valuable video/story, it’s the heart and soul that you put in it. I am over due for a laptop and camera upgrade, will be pulling the trigger on it this year around black Friday
Not meant to be an admonishment by any means. Your production efforts are impressive no matter the equipment.