A place to offer education and advise about the technical aspects of hifi stereo and home theatre. This is just starting out, so be patient as the technical quality of the videos hopefully improve. Thanks for checking this channel out.
Thanks, learnt a lot How much smoothing do you use on the graphs?
@NightFlight197315 күн бұрын
wow. Get this guy some views so he can afford to turn on the heat! :)
@nagyandras885719 күн бұрын
oh my goodness, no. you did not compensate for baffle step losses. that can only be done whit a shelving filter.
@virtualevans25 күн бұрын
Hello friend. Are you still building systems ? I just meet your channel and I was hopping to be able to contact you. Where are you located ?
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers20 күн бұрын
@@virtualevans I’m still around. I am moving and hope to build a new theatre system soon. I might do videos about it.
@jessicaembers924Ай бұрын
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@professionaloverthinker-xАй бұрын
Thanks.
@genaishivatov1737Ай бұрын
Best midwoofers - are those that are easy to work with and simple to filter. Usually these are speakers with a descending frequency response, without any emissions at the end of the frequency response (in the form of a “shepherd’s stand” or mountain like most SB, which require high-order filters and the use of notch chains).
@YouSnoozeYouNoozeАй бұрын
So true
@dominicdiclemente88772 ай бұрын
Still loving my 1099, hope you can continue to produce super informative videos.
@alexw8902 ай бұрын
I’m glad I revisited this video. I forgot how much I learned from this guy a couple years ago. If you are out there, bro, thanks!
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers2 ай бұрын
I’ll be back one day 😉
@bremms12 ай бұрын
That Visa 25mm ring tweeter is a good one. Many years ago I built a two wat with the Skaanings 5” and and a Dyaudio Esotec tweeter. One of the tweeters got wrecked by a hockey stick( don’t ask) and I decided to use the Vifa ring radiator as a drop in. It was cheap and had similar specs. I actually preferred the sound to the Esotec.
@danielesbordone18712 ай бұрын
You need active electronic crossovers that you can actually regulate continuously until you balance everything out , Rane and dbx work well. I don't waste time and money with passive anymore.
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers2 ай бұрын
I don’t think you understood the point. The point was unless you can measure and understand speaker design, active is not easier.
@jimspc072 ай бұрын
Can diffraction be reduced by A. sticking a sponge material around the speaker on the baffle at say 2" away, using the self stick door draft excluder type that about 1/4" square. B. Routing a dado channel in the baffle around the speaker at say 2" away and gluing in a strip of sound deadener. C. Using a dado channel as at B instead of sound absorbing material, put in a circle of hard wood or plastic that is rounded over with a slight protrusion and polished or natural, like a speed hump for soundwaves. But the height above the baffle may need tuning depending on frequency, irrespective of height it might be worth a try.
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers2 ай бұрын
A. Would likely work. Maybe B. but I don’t think C. would work, unless I’m not understanding correctly.
@C-man5532 ай бұрын
Hiquphon OW1 easily. The RS28F is very smooth, but maybe not for older ears. SB29 and XT25,wonderful. I’ve yet to use a SCAN or Seas tweeter that I like.
@crossoverchef2 ай бұрын
Transducer Lab N26CS-G
@SlowDeath19932 ай бұрын
I have a custom cable that goes from speakon to Jack. I want to run this power amp to a load box then using the line out of the load box for entering into a cabinet simulator. May work right? Using just one channel in mono. Guitar guy here...
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers2 ай бұрын
Not totally sure what you’re planning here. Sorry I don’t think I can help.
@hasselbaink20003 ай бұрын
A guitar is a terrible instrument to demonstrate this. You cannot tune a guitar perfectly. Studio musicians tune their guitar to where on the neck most of the playing will be done (5th or maybe 12th fret)
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers2 ай бұрын
It’s just a demonstration to show what distortion is and how they affect he quality of sound. I didn’t have a piano or something else to show. Hope you feel better.
@bricks3121003 ай бұрын
Its possible the sound may change after its been used for a few months.
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers2 ай бұрын
They had quite a few hours of listening. I don’t believe in XO break-in. Driver break in,,, maybe a smidge.
@012_Dante3 ай бұрын
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@erikhansson89893 ай бұрын
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@bunjidogg3 ай бұрын
Do you know of a source for a very basic learning tutorial for Xsim? I know that is not what you intended on this video. I mean very beginner basic. I wanted to start making my own speakers, but I see now how I can't just use calculators online and expect good results. Thanks.
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers3 ай бұрын
I think you’ll need to learn from many sources. My videos are a bit technical and advanced, but they might help give you some ideas. There are some good forums to read, such as the parts express tech talk. Use google too. Videos aren’t a great format to learn speaker design. Unfortunately text might be easier.
@buckaroobonsi5553 ай бұрын
Also a lot of beginners do not own a router or CNC wood working equipment either!
@OscarHernandez-ym4hx3 ай бұрын
Nice No sound test.
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers3 ай бұрын
You keep making the same comment, but what’s the point of listening to a driver without a XO recorded by a microphone, compressed by KZread, the reproduced by your speakers. It’s pointless.
@benjoe9993 ай бұрын
People forget that a baffle is also reflecting sound back that is reflecting from walls and objects in the room
@elcarlissimo3 ай бұрын
Thank you for making these great vids, I have found them incredibly inspiring!
@bunjidogg3 ай бұрын
Hope you are still around. LOL. So, I guess I didn't get how adjusting the values in a 2nd order xover at 2K in a two-way design has an effect on baffle step loss in the 150-500hz range.
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers3 ай бұрын
I’m still around. Just no time to do projects, which is how I do videos. If you play around in a XO simulator you’ll see how adjusting the values will fix baffle step. No good speaker designer will use an actual baffle step compensation filter.
@OscarHernandez-ym4hx3 ай бұрын
O missed the part for the Audio test. Wanted to hear the clarity. Next time.
@sc0or3 ай бұрын
A plastic membrane compression driver is not a tweeter. You need at least a titan. It’s easy to determine which type by FR: a plastic has that remarkable falling deep from 8kHz to 15kHz and then a rocket jump to 18-20kHz. Independently of a manufacturer. All you can make with them is to use a sophisticated crossover to make it flat in a range of 3-5kHz up to 20kHz with a 90dB sensitivity. But the next question then is why a h do you use a compression driver for that if you can take a trivial dome tweeter??
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers3 ай бұрын
CDs are way more sensitive than a dome tweeter, which adds to dynamics and allows for higher realistic SPL and lower distortion. Also the waveguide provides better directivity.
@sc0or3 ай бұрын
@@ImpulseAudioSpeakers A waveguide can be used also with a dome tweeter. However I told about a resulting sensitivity after a crossover that fixes the 8-20kHz issue. They are the same. About 90dB. Fortunately we have titanium/beryllium/carbon membranes. Some of them are pretty affordable. A compression driver worth all of these efforts, you are right. A proper one -)
@PrabhjotSingh13 ай бұрын
Can these drivers be used in a car audio setup (Tymphany NE95W-04) Especially in a hot region like India?
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers3 ай бұрын
Probably. Can’t see why not.
@PrabhjotSingh13 ай бұрын
Someone told me that by using home audio drivers in car audio environment you may ruin them because they are meant to be played at home, so their surround may degrade
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers3 ай бұрын
@@PrabhjotSingh1 nothing supports that claim. Car audio drivers might prioritize other features like power handling. But home audio drivers are perfectly fine in a car.
@OahuClay3 ай бұрын
something wrong with the site for downloading program, have a good link?
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers3 ай бұрын
Sorry I don’t. I think the developer of the program may have abandoned the software.
@johantaljaard67223 ай бұрын
What degree is the chamfer or does it not make a difference?
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers3 ай бұрын
45 is probably best, but I haven’t measured various angles.
@soundautomatic13 ай бұрын
A,d,f,g are my guesses. Oh, hey I'm the same as a coin flip.
@sickoftheleftwingscum3 ай бұрын
BCEH ! 👍🇬🇧
@011goran4 ай бұрын
Test Monacor sph135kep
@timadams91194 ай бұрын
...Gee, I guess J.B.L. got it ALL WRONG !!! Somebody PLEASE go look at vintage J.B.L. L100's, L88's, (both Nova and Cortina). And... almost ALL the other J.B.L. lines from the '70s and early '80s. Only the most highly sought after speakers OF ALL TIME. I understand that the oscilloscope does not lie, but...
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers4 ай бұрын
Think they’ve gone a different way? Think maybe they were able to measure and make the proper adjustments? The point of the video was don’t do it unless you can measure and see what changed.
@jonesaleroy4 ай бұрын
Love to chat sometime.
@jonesaleroy4 ай бұрын
Ever used the sb29rdc-c000-4? Yea thos beryllium are so nice. Gotta watch out for the fakes and alloys cones that arent pure. But they are amazing. Ive heard some.
@jonesaleroy4 ай бұрын
Have you ever used the Peerless by Tymphany NE25VTS-04 1" Silk Dome Tweeter. Soumds really good and can take alot of power. Crossed at 2k easily 100w rms. Specs are 80w.
@kellerdev29054 ай бұрын
For me the difference is obvious. The fouth test i could tell even before i heard the song for the second time, that its without the inductor. And i dudnt know how this inductor was connected because i didnt look at the schematic, but i heard a definite pattern of higher highs and lower highs in the different versions. But it makes sence with the inductors the highs are lower. I liked the version without the coil better. I think it is more important to balance the sound eather that how you made the schematic. In this case you dont need the coil because the highs are fine. But this has to be heard at the room to be certain, as in the room the hoghs might be too loud. I also made alot of these tests recently, and sometimes when you do too much of it, you start to loose track of what you have to listen to. Its like your brain says, just stop with these tests, its irritating and it all sound the same. But take a day to rest your ears and you will hear the difference more clearly
@OscarHernandez-ym4hx4 ай бұрын
I wanted to hear the signature sound of these speakers. Some mids sound like scratchy cardboard and not enough flex to hit a beautiful punchy midbass. Hope you know what I mean. Sorry just learning looking for a good sounding midrange speaker.
@OscarHernandez-ym4hx4 ай бұрын
Why No sound demo. Thanks
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers4 ай бұрын
Sound demos aren’t really worth anything on KZread. So many factors from your speakers, KZread compression, my mic, etc. Also, the driver needs to be implemented in a speaker to know how it sounds.
@OscarHernandez-ym4hx4 ай бұрын
This has been the most amazing video on speaker sounds.
@GuitarTherapy1444 ай бұрын
would you recommend this speaker for a car door as part of a 3 way system using also other dayton products?
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers4 ай бұрын
Ya probably. I don’t really know car audio well. Not the best in a sealed car door, but should handle a fair bit of power.
@musiccritic87044 ай бұрын
“For those of you that like feet” 😳
@BrandonToy4 ай бұрын
Hey, thanks for all these videos man. It’s clear you worked hard on them.
@xxxYYZxxx4 ай бұрын
140 degrees out of phase eh? Why not just invert the tweeter? 🤔Since it's free and quick, why just choose 1.5k and call it a day when the DSP offers virtually unlimited tweaking?
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers4 ай бұрын
Inverting the tweeter means they’re 40 degrees out of phase. Also, the point of the video was that these things don’t automatically work. You need to measure and design just like a passive XO.
@onesikm34 ай бұрын
Hey what mic do you use for testing ? Are you using usb or audio interface ?
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers4 ай бұрын
I use a MiniDSP mic that is USB and have been 3rd party calibrated by Cross Spectrum Labs.
@davideddn27454 ай бұрын
Beatiful review, bravo. The have a 4 of this driver, i agree with you, hi end midrange!
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Nice tutorial but you are going to fast
Thanks, learnt a lot How much smoothing do you use on the graphs?
wow. Get this guy some views so he can afford to turn on the heat! :)
oh my goodness, no. you did not compensate for baffle step losses. that can only be done whit a shelving filter.
Hello friend. Are you still building systems ? I just meet your channel and I was hopping to be able to contact you. Where are you located ?
@@virtualevans I’m still around. I am moving and hope to build a new theatre system soon. I might do videos about it.
Tweet Tweet ❤
Thanks.
Best midwoofers - are those that are easy to work with and simple to filter. Usually these are speakers with a descending frequency response, without any emissions at the end of the frequency response (in the form of a “shepherd’s stand” or mountain like most SB, which require high-order filters and the use of notch chains).
So true
Still loving my 1099, hope you can continue to produce super informative videos.
I’m glad I revisited this video. I forgot how much I learned from this guy a couple years ago. If you are out there, bro, thanks!
I’ll be back one day 😉
That Visa 25mm ring tweeter is a good one. Many years ago I built a two wat with the Skaanings 5” and and a Dyaudio Esotec tweeter. One of the tweeters got wrecked by a hockey stick( don’t ask) and I decided to use the Vifa ring radiator as a drop in. It was cheap and had similar specs. I actually preferred the sound to the Esotec.
You need active electronic crossovers that you can actually regulate continuously until you balance everything out , Rane and dbx work well. I don't waste time and money with passive anymore.
I don’t think you understood the point. The point was unless you can measure and understand speaker design, active is not easier.
Can diffraction be reduced by A. sticking a sponge material around the speaker on the baffle at say 2" away, using the self stick door draft excluder type that about 1/4" square. B. Routing a dado channel in the baffle around the speaker at say 2" away and gluing in a strip of sound deadener. C. Using a dado channel as at B instead of sound absorbing material, put in a circle of hard wood or plastic that is rounded over with a slight protrusion and polished or natural, like a speed hump for soundwaves. But the height above the baffle may need tuning depending on frequency, irrespective of height it might be worth a try.
A. Would likely work. Maybe B. but I don’t think C. would work, unless I’m not understanding correctly.
Hiquphon OW1 easily. The RS28F is very smooth, but maybe not for older ears. SB29 and XT25,wonderful. I’ve yet to use a SCAN or Seas tweeter that I like.
Transducer Lab N26CS-G
I have a custom cable that goes from speakon to Jack. I want to run this power amp to a load box then using the line out of the load box for entering into a cabinet simulator. May work right? Using just one channel in mono. Guitar guy here...
Not totally sure what you’re planning here. Sorry I don’t think I can help.
A guitar is a terrible instrument to demonstrate this. You cannot tune a guitar perfectly. Studio musicians tune their guitar to where on the neck most of the playing will be done (5th or maybe 12th fret)
It’s just a demonstration to show what distortion is and how they affect he quality of sound. I didn’t have a piano or something else to show. Hope you feel better.
Its possible the sound may change after its been used for a few months.
They had quite a few hours of listening. I don’t believe in XO break-in. Driver break in,,, maybe a smidge.
B D F G
SÅ JÄVLA DÅLIG
Do you know of a source for a very basic learning tutorial for Xsim? I know that is not what you intended on this video. I mean very beginner basic. I wanted to start making my own speakers, but I see now how I can't just use calculators online and expect good results. Thanks.
I think you’ll need to learn from many sources. My videos are a bit technical and advanced, but they might help give you some ideas. There are some good forums to read, such as the parts express tech talk. Use google too. Videos aren’t a great format to learn speaker design. Unfortunately text might be easier.
Also a lot of beginners do not own a router or CNC wood working equipment either!
Nice No sound test.
You keep making the same comment, but what’s the point of listening to a driver without a XO recorded by a microphone, compressed by KZread, the reproduced by your speakers. It’s pointless.
People forget that a baffle is also reflecting sound back that is reflecting from walls and objects in the room
Thank you for making these great vids, I have found them incredibly inspiring!
Hope you are still around. LOL. So, I guess I didn't get how adjusting the values in a 2nd order xover at 2K in a two-way design has an effect on baffle step loss in the 150-500hz range.
I’m still around. Just no time to do projects, which is how I do videos. If you play around in a XO simulator you’ll see how adjusting the values will fix baffle step. No good speaker designer will use an actual baffle step compensation filter.
O missed the part for the Audio test. Wanted to hear the clarity. Next time.
A plastic membrane compression driver is not a tweeter. You need at least a titan. It’s easy to determine which type by FR: a plastic has that remarkable falling deep from 8kHz to 15kHz and then a rocket jump to 18-20kHz. Independently of a manufacturer. All you can make with them is to use a sophisticated crossover to make it flat in a range of 3-5kHz up to 20kHz with a 90dB sensitivity. But the next question then is why a h do you use a compression driver for that if you can take a trivial dome tweeter??
CDs are way more sensitive than a dome tweeter, which adds to dynamics and allows for higher realistic SPL and lower distortion. Also the waveguide provides better directivity.
@@ImpulseAudioSpeakers A waveguide can be used also with a dome tweeter. However I told about a resulting sensitivity after a crossover that fixes the 8-20kHz issue. They are the same. About 90dB. Fortunately we have titanium/beryllium/carbon membranes. Some of them are pretty affordable. A compression driver worth all of these efforts, you are right. A proper one -)
Can these drivers be used in a car audio setup (Tymphany NE95W-04) Especially in a hot region like India?
Probably. Can’t see why not.
Someone told me that by using home audio drivers in car audio environment you may ruin them because they are meant to be played at home, so their surround may degrade
@@PrabhjotSingh1 nothing supports that claim. Car audio drivers might prioritize other features like power handling. But home audio drivers are perfectly fine in a car.
something wrong with the site for downloading program, have a good link?
Sorry I don’t. I think the developer of the program may have abandoned the software.
What degree is the chamfer or does it not make a difference?
45 is probably best, but I haven’t measured various angles.
A,d,f,g are my guesses. Oh, hey I'm the same as a coin flip.
BCEH ! 👍🇬🇧
Test Monacor sph135kep
...Gee, I guess J.B.L. got it ALL WRONG !!! Somebody PLEASE go look at vintage J.B.L. L100's, L88's, (both Nova and Cortina). And... almost ALL the other J.B.L. lines from the '70s and early '80s. Only the most highly sought after speakers OF ALL TIME. I understand that the oscilloscope does not lie, but...
Think they’ve gone a different way? Think maybe they were able to measure and make the proper adjustments? The point of the video was don’t do it unless you can measure and see what changed.
Love to chat sometime.
Ever used the sb29rdc-c000-4? Yea thos beryllium are so nice. Gotta watch out for the fakes and alloys cones that arent pure. But they are amazing. Ive heard some.
Have you ever used the Peerless by Tymphany NE25VTS-04 1" Silk Dome Tweeter. Soumds really good and can take alot of power. Crossed at 2k easily 100w rms. Specs are 80w.
For me the difference is obvious. The fouth test i could tell even before i heard the song for the second time, that its without the inductor. And i dudnt know how this inductor was connected because i didnt look at the schematic, but i heard a definite pattern of higher highs and lower highs in the different versions. But it makes sence with the inductors the highs are lower. I liked the version without the coil better. I think it is more important to balance the sound eather that how you made the schematic. In this case you dont need the coil because the highs are fine. But this has to be heard at the room to be certain, as in the room the hoghs might be too loud. I also made alot of these tests recently, and sometimes when you do too much of it, you start to loose track of what you have to listen to. Its like your brain says, just stop with these tests, its irritating and it all sound the same. But take a day to rest your ears and you will hear the difference more clearly
I wanted to hear the signature sound of these speakers. Some mids sound like scratchy cardboard and not enough flex to hit a beautiful punchy midbass. Hope you know what I mean. Sorry just learning looking for a good sounding midrange speaker.
Why No sound demo. Thanks
Sound demos aren’t really worth anything on KZread. So many factors from your speakers, KZread compression, my mic, etc. Also, the driver needs to be implemented in a speaker to know how it sounds.
This has been the most amazing video on speaker sounds.
would you recommend this speaker for a car door as part of a 3 way system using also other dayton products?
Ya probably. I don’t really know car audio well. Not the best in a sealed car door, but should handle a fair bit of power.
“For those of you that like feet” 😳
Hey, thanks for all these videos man. It’s clear you worked hard on them.
140 degrees out of phase eh? Why not just invert the tweeter? 🤔Since it's free and quick, why just choose 1.5k and call it a day when the DSP offers virtually unlimited tweaking?
Inverting the tweeter means they’re 40 degrees out of phase. Also, the point of the video was that these things don’t automatically work. You need to measure and design just like a passive XO.
Hey what mic do you use for testing ? Are you using usb or audio interface ?
I use a MiniDSP mic that is USB and have been 3rd party calibrated by Cross Spectrum Labs.
Beatiful review, bravo. The have a 4 of this driver, i agree with you, hi end midrange!
Don't like surface mounts