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  @talcumx21244 күн бұрын

  Kid Buu didn't copy instant transmission. he copied the god version kaikai. It's much better! Also, kid buu got himself killed because he never took the fight seriously. Goku even says in the manga

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  @AVeryStableFusion4 күн бұрын

  Is it possible? Yes Are they worth using? No

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  @luigi777144 күн бұрын

  To be fair, the whole discussion about the dimensional scream not being canon should also be used for Vegeta destroying a planet back in the saiyan saga, since that's also anime only, and you basically used that feat as a base for everything else. Aside from that, great video and great series, I'm enjoying this a lot! (Please do GT as well, I find its powerscaling hilarious) Also edit since I just got to that part: while I understand the scaling of the Spirit Bomb, I also really don't think that there is any logical reason for Kid Buu to be stronger than Buuhan. He might be a little amped by just fighting on instinct, but how can he become physically stronger after subtracting power

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  @driveghost19964 күн бұрын

  @@luigi77714 I took the Vegeta blowing up a Planet feat because he was already known to be Planetary, whereas the Dimensional Scream feat has no other basis within the Manga And I also don't think Kid Buu is stronger than Buuhan, just that the scaling is all over the place lol

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  @luigi777144 күн бұрын

  @@driveghost1996 I do agree that Vegeta is planetary, but the anime scene makes it look a lot easier than it is, in reality Vegeta needs to charge a pretty powerful Galick Gun to blow up a planet, and techniques are a way to amp power level, so that would place the minimum required level to destroy a planet from 18k to whatever the correct multiplier of the Galick Gun is, I think. Also fair point, it is very over the place lol

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  @talcumx21244 күн бұрын

  Here's a DBZ math problem! Roshi can blow up the moon. The Earth is basically 50 moons.What power level do you have to be to blow up the earth? Would anyone like to answer!

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  @thelettucebarrel77845 күн бұрын

  It would never be practical to use but is it possible? Obviously. Super Saiyan Blue is literally just Super Saiyan with god ki/combined with the god form. Same rules would apply to SS2 and SS3.

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  @he_who_has_no_name6 күн бұрын

  7:19 it wasn't named until a game, I believe. And it's effectiveness is directly tied to strength. 8:57 Genki is health energy. Gohan was not in too good a state when he lended.

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  @driveghost19966 күн бұрын

  @@he_who_has_no_name Gohan was just revived when he lended energy. In terms of his health and energy levels he was in tip top shape.

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  @The-Radio-Demon0412 күн бұрын

  I would assume, Yes it's possible for Goku to Obtain SSJB2 and SSJB3, But it would be pointless, since i believe, SSJB Kaioken x20 is stronger than both forms, so Yes it's possible, but highly unnecessary.

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  @rando883120 күн бұрын

  Great vid. I agree especially with the tone of mk 9’s story. Imo x and 11 were lacking very hard when it came to setting a consistent tone throughout their stories, which is why I prefer mk 9 and mk 1’s story and storytelling

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  @PawDRyu20 күн бұрын

  I in particular do think that super saiyan blue 2 and 3 are possible. the problem of getting to that part however, is that the super saiyan blue is all about the control, calmness of super saiyan god combined with anger of original super saiyan. Pure control on this part is already difficult. Super Saiyan 2 is, I hate this definition that Dragon Ball Super gave us, but S cells as energy, that gathers in the back, compress, tighter, it would mean that to get to the part of Super Saiyan Blue, first, would be containing all that aura that escapes, the same way Goku did in the Manga. After that, compressing all that energy to the level it could give space for more energy to gather in the back, compressing so on and on. Nevertheless leaving that blashpemy of definition, Super Saiyan 2 is more about anger than the original super saiyan, is, so it will be even harder to balans with calmness of super saiyan god

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  @PawDRyu20 күн бұрын

  Hence, Goku and Vegeta skipped that and went straight for Ultra Instinct/Ego, which is all about one emotion guiding them. Which now as I think about it, both ultra Ego and Instinct could limit progress of thinking out of a box for both saiyans. I like the definition of non canon super saiyan 5, being combination of all emotions putten into balans, none dominant one. That's how out of a box they should think, I think

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  @realkizzy321 күн бұрын

  if he could reach ssj2 blue i would be highly flabbergasted if he was allowed to stack kaioken in anyway without dying

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  @jeremymorris34523 күн бұрын

  If it was possible they would be useless. SSJ B 2 is a x2 multipler on SSJ B and SSJ B 3 is a x8 on top SSJ B. Both of which would be a weaker multipler then Evolved or Kiaoken x 20. Not to mention it took Goku and Vegeta forever to full master blue and deal with it's energy drain. The energy drain to try and use the form wouldn't be worth it. While a theoretical SSJ B 3 with Kiaoken x20 would be powerful it would likely still be weaker then UI and wouldn't last long at all.

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  @driveghost199623 күн бұрын

  @@jeremymorris345 Exactly what I say in the video.

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  @jeremymorris34523 күн бұрын

  @@driveghost1996 Commented before I watched, sorry.

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  @driveghost199623 күн бұрын

  @@jeremymorris345 It's fine, most the comments seemed to have done that lol

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  @jeremymorris34523 күн бұрын

  @@driveghost1996 Algorithm boost lol

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  @Theguythatnooneknow25 күн бұрын

  1:50 I think its ssb mixed with the grades cause it looks like ssb on roids

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  @Marika_ER25 күн бұрын

  Goku didn't add any power to the father son Kamehameha. He just gave Gohan the confidence boost that he needed. Gohan was at half of his power when he clashed against Cell. Which means ssj1 Gohan was more than enough for Cell. The only thing holding him back was his mental

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  @ArbieLyvias25 күн бұрын

  Hey, this is pretty good and clear, good job mate

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  @I8628226 күн бұрын

  Goku did not actually assist Gohon in the final energy battle. He was there in spirit. Not in ki.!

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  @driveghost199626 күн бұрын

  Both the Wiki and Daizenshuu state that Gohan borrowed Ki from Goku in the Father Son Kamehameha

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  @Marika_ER25 күн бұрын

  ​@@driveghost1996well he didn't. Goku Wasn't literally there

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  @driveghost199625 күн бұрын

  @@Marika_ER People in Hell gave energy to Goku for th Spirit Bomb when he was in the World of Kais. People "not being there" is irrelevant. And the Daizenshuu is agreed to be an accurate source by a majority of the fan base.

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  @Marika_ER25 күн бұрын

  @@driveghost1996 yeah because the spirit bomb and Kamehameha are the same attacks. You're a smooth brain. And I don't care what a group of fans think, I care about facts. Goku didn't add power, that was all Gohan

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  @driveghost199625 күн бұрын

  @@Marika_ER The techniques have nothing to do with it, it's about Lending Energy, which is shown to be possible at least with Genki Energy, which Goku was likely giving to Gohan. There is an OFFICIAL SOURCE stating that Gohan borrowed Power from Goku and you just refuse to accept because you want to be different and pretend you know what you're talking about about.

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  @SalvationDiscipleshipAreNotThe26 күн бұрын

  I don't feel bad for Squidward when he gets his comeuppance for being a jerk, but in episodes like "Squid Baby," I think he does deserve to be defended. But that's just my 2 cents. :)

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  @driveghost199626 күн бұрын

  Like I say in the vid, there are times he doesn't deserve what he gets, but more often than not he has it coming

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  @MrEdwithdreadz26 күн бұрын

  Good job man keep them coming 👍

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  @multiversal_clown26 күн бұрын

  Nice vid dude, keep up the good work

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  @destridax26 күн бұрын

  W vid

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  @Sajuek26 күн бұрын

  Easily the worst video I have ever watched. If this was your best take why even bother

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  @driveghost199626 күн бұрын

  It was my only take lol

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  @ArbieLyvias25 күн бұрын

  Bro why do harsh

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  @ikeillue838526 күн бұрын

  As with the first one, this is still very conservative. Cell is stated to be capable of blowing up the solar system, and the guidebooks confirm that, but there is actually one more step that we didn't take into consideration. The Dragon Ball cosmology (which is what REALLY breaks DB power scaling.). According the the guidebooks, a solar system in Dragon Ball is not just a star and the planets orbiting it. No. Its actually a galactic nebula consisting of countless stars. We could take that statement literally, which would mean that Cell is capable of destroying infinite stars (the only way for something to be literally uncountable, is for it to be beyond quantification, or in other words, infinite.), which would technically work with the statements about him having infinite power. However, lets just look at that from a more conservative way. In order to be considered "countless" it has to have so many more stars than other similar constructs, that it is deemed uncountable. Galaxies are constructs of the same nature (only larger), that can consist of upwards of 100 trillion stars. So, to be considered "countless", there would have to be more than quadrillions of stars in these solar systems, which Cell was capable of destroying. Essentially, when you take the Dragon Ball cosmology into account, Cell is already hitting low multi galaxy levels of power.

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  @ikeillue838526 күн бұрын

  The funny thing is, this is still being pretty conservative. King Piccolo was stated to be capable of destroying the world, after he gets his youth returned. Considering that Roshi was capable of blowing up the moon, and the multiple tiers of power scaling between Roshi and Piccolo, its not that much of a stretch to say that he was being literal, not just bragging. Also, First form Frieza was capable of destroying planet Vegeta casually with one finger. Planet Vegeta has 10x Earth's gravity, which puts that at a dwarf to small star level feat, and thats before we take into consideration that it could easily be argued to be a large planet (since King Cold considers Earth to be tiny, and we get no indication that he or Frieza have similar thoughts about Vegeta.), which would push that even further. Essentially, and this is a hard pill for a lot of people to swallow, King Piccolo is already at a level that the vast majority of fictional universes are topping off at (I want to be clear, I'm not saying all. But relatively speaking, there are very few series that actually scale to celestial body levels of power.). On a side note, which I only bring up because there are a lot of people who do this. If you take statements literally, then second form Frieza is already universal in power. I generally don't take statements literally, unless there are either feats, or scaling from feats that support it (like Piccolo saying he could destroy the world being reasonable based on Roshi vaporizing the moon earlier in the series.), but there are people that use statements regardless, in which case using consistent standards would put Frieza to universal. Really fun fact, this is STILL not the highest scaling you can get for Frieza, while only looking at the canon material.

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  @dervakommtvonhinten51726 күн бұрын

  wow, you fumble your words right in the beginning, but you couldnt be bothered to do a second take? xD

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  @driveghost199626 күн бұрын

  Nope.

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  @dervakommtvonhinten51726 күн бұрын

  @@driveghost1996 wow, its really rare when a youtube admits he doesnt give two shits about his videos

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  @driveghost199626 күн бұрын

  @@dervakommtvonhinten517 Well my Videos are always gonna have lacking quality bc of my PC. It lags when recording which cuts out audio sometimes and limits what I can do. So until then, this is about as good as it can get.

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  @dervakommtvonhinten51726 күн бұрын

  @@driveghost1996 that wasnt a hardware issue, you fumbled reading your own title and it was right in the beginning. you could either do a second take or you could just cut and replace that part. you did neither which shows you just didnt care

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  @driveghost199626 күн бұрын

  @@dervakommtvonhinten517 I'm going to fumble my words regardless, and even if I were to do a perfect take there would still be problems like what I mentioned Besides, I like keeping the slip-ups in. It shows that I'm not perfect and it can be comedic.

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  @JonDoe-uq1mk27 күн бұрын

  You sound like Alan from Smiling Friends

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  @driveghost199627 күн бұрын

  Idk who that is-

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  @drakeking34326 күн бұрын

  Nah bro he sounds like Jesse Eisenberg

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  @iliketoast445627 күн бұрын

  u must love fedoras and scaring women

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  @philorear942927 күн бұрын

  Nice vid

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  @driveghost199627 күн бұрын

  Thanks

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  @user-zh2tt5cv7b29 күн бұрын

  😂ssj3 doesnt rely on anger it rely's on screaming at the top of your lungs without stopping for almost 2minutes

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  @GundiYengeni29 күн бұрын

  Dude Goku already achieved ssj blue 2 against Jiren

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  @petermcclendon4412Ай бұрын

  Actually it’s possible cause ssjbe is the equal to ssjb kaioken x20 Kaioken x2 (or just kaioken) ion top of ssjb is the EXACT EQUAL TO SSJBLUE 2 Kaioken X8 on top of ssjblue is the equal of ssjblue 3 Ssjblue evolution and kaioken x20 on top of ssjblue is the equal to what would be greta but blue

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  @Ace_of_HornsАй бұрын

  Great points here, especially the one about the kaioken multiplier basically exceeding the multiplier of ss2 and ss3 combined. Great explanation man.

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  @OnlySayoriАй бұрын

  the kaioken multiplier is just not valid though, we could just have a ssjb2 with kaioken, the forms could still be useful and still use kaioken

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  @Ace_of_HornsАй бұрын

  @@OnlySayori yeah i guess that's true.

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  @8theminecraftgamerАй бұрын

  @@OnlySayori bro if it was ssb3 with kaioken then it might just kill goku in a milisecond of activating it

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  @niftylittlenameАй бұрын

  ​@@8theminecraftgamer "this is my heart attack technique, watch this shi-"

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  @Willing_HeroldАй бұрын

  Isnt ssj4 a stronger humanized golden ape? And isnt the golden ape a mix of the oozaru and the super sayian? So could the oozaru be stacked with super sayian 3 then that be stacked with ssjbe?

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  @zombathinlostleghackercat5233Ай бұрын

  I think Red is SSJ1, Blue is SSJ2, and Blue 2 is SSJ3. I don't think Red is just him using a different type of Ki, be cause it's said that that ki is now apart of him, and he uses it in base form. It would be interesting if Beast was just Blue 2 (AKA, SSJ White). SSJ1, SSJ2, SSJ3. Red, Blue, White. It's just like fire, going from red, to blue, to white.

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  @ElPeloXDАй бұрын

  no, youre wrong, im correct. i refuse to elaborate further.

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  @zenvultra13 күн бұрын

  You don’t think red is him using another type of ki? Bro that’s SSJ God form using God ki 😂

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  @thestickmansavioryt1941Ай бұрын

  SSJ3 is 8x stronger than SSJ... So SSJB3 = SSJBKKx8 < SSJBKKx20

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  @johnzahm193Ай бұрын

  It would have become so convoluted to simply recolor all of the super Saiyan transformations and the writers probably realized that

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  @Frieza_FanboyАй бұрын

  My personal headcannon: Since super sayan blue is a fusion of super sayan and super sayan god, the only way to get ssj blue 2 is to fuse ssj 2 alongside ssj god 2 (an evolution of ssjg) and the only way to get super Sayan blue 3 is to fuse ssj3 with ssjg 3. Fusing ssj 2 or ssj 3 with regular ssjg, or fusing ssjg 2 or ssjg 3 with regular ssj would result in vegeta's transformation, super sayan blue evolved, which is a slightly weaker version of the hypothetical ssjb 2 (like a ssjb 1.5). Since regular super sayan comes from anger and rage and gives a boost in strength and power, i believe super sayan god would be the opposite, giving a boost to speed and agility, alongside with strengthening techniques and attacks. Super sayan blue would both give physical strength, agility, and a boost in abilities at a cost of mental stability. Regular super Sayan blue would have little to no effect on the main cast due to it giving a downgrade to mental state thats way too small to be noticable, while super sayan blue 2 would give a way more noticable loss on the user's mental state, with ssjb 3 putting the user on the verge of insanity (like super Sayan beast does with rage), with it requiring incredible mental stablility and emotional control to be used effectively. Overall, i think a perfected super sayan blue 3 would be enough to rival beerus, with goku fusing it with the ultra instinct technique and vegeta imbuing it with destroyer energy, finally putting an end to beerus's reign as the strongest current enemy of the sayan duo and putting either whis, the grand priest, or a different character like a g.o.d that was way to powerful and unpredictable and was sealed away as its new strongest enemy. Also, the super Sayan blue transformations would allow goku and vegeta to use both the UI technique alongside destroyer energy together as vegito or gogeta, since i believe UI and UE are incompatible as forms, while super sayan blue 2 or 3 could be embued with both at the same time. Edit: spelling.

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  @ElPeloXDАй бұрын

  holy shit, that makes no sense in too many levels.

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  @Frieza_FanboyАй бұрын

  @@ElPeloXD how?

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  @Eric6761Ай бұрын

  ​​@@Frieza_Fanboyunlike the rude guy before me, allow me to explain: Super Saiyan Blue is the natural evolution to Super Saiyan God, not a fusion as Goku described in Resurrection of F, Blue is an form that is provenient of the God ki as said by Goku Black and Gohan Beast is not using God ki as much as we know since Beerus in the manga even asks Whis if the form Gohan have is something provenient of God energy and Whis said no, so there's no way it's a fusion besides, Blue already has a Super Saiyan 2 that is Blue Evolved besides even if Goku and Vegeta unlocked theoretical 2 and 3 versions they would pale in comparison to anything that Ultra Instinct and Ego since their multipliers are stronger

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  @Frieza_FanboyАй бұрын

  @@Eric6761 fair enough I guess, although what I said here in my comment is more of a fan fic of sorts, I just like the idea of a form deteriorating mental state instead of health (kaioken) or energy (ssj3).

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  @Eric6761Ай бұрын

  @@Frieza_Fanboy that's honestly a cool idea

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  @Fugitiv3.Ай бұрын

  We alr have super sayian blue 2 in the manga, its called mastered ssb. They use it in every fight post goku black arc

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  @ElPeloXDАй бұрын

  is that a bait? what you said is completely false

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  @baseddlite730618 күн бұрын

  i miss when bait used to be good

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  @ElPeloXD17 күн бұрын

  @@baseddlite7306 thsi is literally "bait used to be believable"

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  @DJMTheKing21Ай бұрын

  Kid buu is easily high galaxy level we see him wiping solar systems in second also he is one of the reasons why the mortal level is so low in universe 7

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  @Serial_designation_B_69420Ай бұрын

  Ssjb2/3 is the same principle as ssjb due to them mixing god ki with super sayian so all goku has to do is add ssj2 to god ki and boom

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  @MinhLe19303Ай бұрын

  To answer the question of the video: No. Super Saiyan Blue Evolution is the next step of Super Saiyan Blue as that form breaks the limit of Super Saiyan Blue, just like Super Saiyan 2 and 3 breaks the limit of Super Saiyan 1. Rose in the anime is a different divine mutation of Super Saiyan 1, so it didn't evolved the same as Super Saiyan Blue Evolution.

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  @Eric6761Ай бұрын

  Rosé as Zamasu said is the Super Saiyan Blue of a divinity

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  @MinhLe19303Ай бұрын

  @@Eric6761 That's just the manga. The anime didn't parallel it to SSB, but a different version of SS1 that different from SSB.

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  @fastfirefox1475Ай бұрын

  In heros vegito has lightining in his arua so it looks like ssjb2. Cant remember if his hair changed.

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  @andrehwsanders7146Ай бұрын

  Well in dragonball super during the tournament of power vegeta achieved super saiyan blue evolved which is super saiyan blue 2. Goku also implies in dbz during his fight with buu when he turns super saiyan 2, that’s it’s an ascended version of super saiyan & vegeta stated super saiyan blue evolved is an ascended power of super saiyan blue

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  @andrehwsanders7146Ай бұрын

  So yeah technically super saiyan blue evolved is blue 2 ascended or evolved in the dbs/dbz world is considered level 2 or higher for the initial transformation

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  @BlowOnMyMagicFluteАй бұрын

  I never knew about how god Chi worked until now

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  @DrunkPanda239Ай бұрын

  If you look at in the normal multipliers it would be 2x and 8x. If you consider blue evolution as a grade 2 ssj1 variant then 2 and 3 would or should have WAY better multipliers at a logical reasoning. But ego and ui may still surpass them.

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  @glubiglubstar3318Ай бұрын

  You deserve more views man

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  @driveghost1996Ай бұрын

  Thanks, that's nice of ya

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  @jaredt2590Ай бұрын

  There isn’t a reason to try and achieve further transformations, you’d need an enemy like Cell that nobody can touch, what Vegeta and Goku would probably do is just fuse though which would yield much more power than SSJ2 or 3.

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  @TheJadeFistАй бұрын

  I think the Viltrumite DNA would be more assertive, simply because they're genetically engineered to do so. It isn't simply dominate vs recessive genes, its been stated that it writes over other DNA to actually change the genetics of an individual.

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  @1ce867Ай бұрын

  Yes for the anime but for the manga, definitely no

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  @IIIISaiАй бұрын

  Its possible but they get ui the same time around they master ssj1 blue in the manga atleast for goku, and anime goku has kaioken x20 ssj which is better than ssj3

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  @driveghost1996Ай бұрын

  Exactly what I said in the video 👍

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  @DildaarWebDev-cz1upАй бұрын

  Via Potara earing fusion it should be easily be possible.

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  @jewelsunniheartsfitnessanimeАй бұрын

  A Saiyan/viltrumite hybrid would be stronger than half human half Saiyan that’s guaranteed but a half Saiyan/viltrumite wouldn’t be close to half Saiyan/half angel naturally since angels are otherworldly powerful since birth either high power levels.

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  @bethelsheunesumasukume352Ай бұрын

  The Viltrumite genetics would also make the Saiyan tail a MUCH more dominant genetic trait.