I learned people fly.and ript once a arm out of its seat ..osoto gari in chokehold on the ground😂😂judo skills kills .saved me alot.deflect attacks and take over .7kyu
@rickcarrasco671629 күн бұрын
So if you only had to choose one style, which one would it be for self-defense in a real situation?
@arunryuk7772 ай бұрын
Should i learn judo or wushu 🙄, wushu seems like more injury prone
@Canvas580272 ай бұрын
1:40
@privateuploads53972 ай бұрын
Tbh, ground fights are freaking boring to watch. Which is why the most exciting fight to watch are both strikers. If you want to watch ground fights, just watch wrestling or BJJ Championship match.
@privateuploads53972 ай бұрын
Fighting a real muay thai, there's a good chance you either die or broke your leg,nose, ribs, jaw. Those mofo kicks is like getting beat up by a baseball bat.
@privateuploads53972 ай бұрын
Just like SAKURABA toying around with the Gracie BJJ Brothers. Beats them in their own ground game. Lost an arm after. Gracie even Surrenders. Watch youtube fight Muay Thai vs BJJ, how useless BJJ becomes on a kicking battle. You will literally lost your leg if you're not being careful with real Muay Thai(Thailander) fighter. BJJ us useful to ground fitghs esp. if the opponent doesnt know how to do ground fights, but to a striker kick or punch, goodluck. Just like Joe said, a fight started at standing far apart.
@BeefDog6662 ай бұрын
jiujitsu was invented as a complete last resort in a fight. i swear dudes use it as an excuse to 69 each other. any skilled muay thai fighter with good take down resistance strategy will make a gayjitsu fighter his bitch. ive seen it time and time again. a skilled wing chun fighter will pluck your eye out of your fucking skull before you could blink. the jiujitsu campaign is such a scam and not practical irl
@Mike-nj7iu2 ай бұрын
Rodtang vs DJ
@youssef52633 ай бұрын
do u know what episode this is?
@user-cq6sw9xv2e3 ай бұрын
I would agree to train martial arts, but train with weapons and dirty tactics as well
@petion20133 ай бұрын
Krav Maga never claimed that they can deal with trained fighter. It's self-defense that help peoplr gettting out of situations
@humansnotai49123 ай бұрын
If a trained killer attacks you with the intent to kill you, what do you think is going to happen?
@SoldierAndrew4 ай бұрын
Joe likes referring to BJJ guys as trained killers or just killers but no ones killing anyone in BJJ competitions. So they're not killers until they've killed . And all the killers are in prison or in the military Infantry MOS or SOCOM shooters and are war veterans. BJJ players are athletes, not killers. . .Unless they're BJJ players whom served as an infantryman or SOCOM shooter in military combat , but then we're not killing with BJJ but rather using martial (military) weapons to kill the opposition. Joe has been in entertainment too long.
@justinrubinsky39904 ай бұрын
Muay Thai
@SmileFreestyle-hx2rc4 ай бұрын
As a striker myself I give the win to grappling in general - whether wrestling or BJJ. But if we break down which type of fight then that's a whole different story. Against multiple people? boxing. Followed by Muay Thai. Unless you're like me and way better at kicks than anything then Muay Thai first place. But thinking average dude no shoulder problems etc. Boxing first Against a guy your size? Wrestling or BJJ Against a guy much bigger than you? BJJ
@mirzad198824 ай бұрын
"teaches you how to play" come to a varsity wrestling practice youll see what play is
@naas6994 ай бұрын
where are all the BJJ nuthuggers shooting down Joe and saying how BJJ is the best?
@ef69575 ай бұрын
Muay Thai destroys jujitsu always.
@InsaneCopePosse5 ай бұрын
Khabib is the only exception. The muay tahi fighters need to check his takedowns
@danieldominguez71735 ай бұрын
For street fight, muy Thai is best in my opinion If opponent pulls out a knife You at least can use your legs to kick him away and run You don’t want that knife near you
@Mtripp0056 ай бұрын
Here’s the two truths people miss. First, in a real world violent personal assault, the bad guy or guys do not want you to get away. I can’t take your shit if you’re across the street. So the assault will be up close and personal. That’s grappling distance. Second, Jigoro Kano figured this out in 1882 and every 20 years or so people need to learn it again. The way you defeat so called deadly techniques, that cannot be practiced and mastered; Is with safe techniques that can. Judo gave us the idea of sparring in real time full speed resisting opponents conditions.
@ahmadhashimi9266 ай бұрын
Please interview tony somers and jeoff Thompson
@mrpisOP6 ай бұрын
Judo is one of those martial arts that'll have your opponent wondering what just happened to them 😆
@MCQUEENFIT6 ай бұрын
Idk I think muay thai over bjj. Of course you think you can close the distance with a grapple technique then you get surprised by a knee or a leg kick to the face or temple
@Nazareeni6 ай бұрын
When he says Jiu-jitsu, surely he means Japanese Jujutsu. That is a martial art born for purely self defence (combat Jujutsu). It covers every scenario from standing, to takedowns, to grappling, but has the added teachings of being dirty and striking erroneous areas with certain parts of your body (for example, Jujutsu practitioners prefer to guillotine with the blade/bone of your forearm crushing your opponent's Adam's apple; they like that forearm blade, they like elbows, headbutts and palms, they practice face raking, eye gouging, low blows, doing clever take downs followed by submissions designed to cripple, such as a one-legged Boston crab or wristlock after torpedoing a knee on your downed opponents' head). It's a martial art designed for instant self defense. Both Judo and Brazilian Jiu-jitsu stemmed from Jujutsu.
@TerrenceLP6 ай бұрын
The point being missed is in a real street fight, you get to break fingers and poke eyes 👀👊 that breaks up anything a grappler wants to do 🎉
@arnmazing31566 ай бұрын
Imagine you trying a lock and you get skitty bap on the back of your head or neck hard af. Yea gotta have both.
@joe93786 ай бұрын
i'm in krav maga and agree with Joe. i've also done muay thai. on the other hand, it's usually not a bjj expert or a karate expert or boxer (or someone in martial artis) that you have look out for on the streets. it's safe to say that martial artists are not looking for fights because they are disciplined and not trying to hurt people on the street. it is helpful to train with other martial arts experts to sharpen what we've learned about other sport fighting techniques or martial artists in general. i like krav maga because it does teach a basic level of physical strength training, self-defense, weapons defense, and some grappling from to keep at bay an attacker from the street.
@coffeehousephilosopher79366 ай бұрын
Should someone tell him? You don't need a heavy jacket to do Judy.. There are videos during the WW2 era of soldiers in the Imperial military practicing Judo without the kimono/gi. Many early judoka preferred ne-waza which is why Kano started putting more emphasis into tachi-waza in the curriculum and why you see it being practiced under olympic judo; over time this is changing due to various competitive formats
@Elriuhilu6 ай бұрын
I thought this was going to be about jujutsu but it was actually about Brazillian jiu jitsu.
@hopeisit13476 ай бұрын
Honest thoughts from you guys…For street defence is it better to learn Muay Thai or Judo?? I am mid 40s age
@t.t.t.74192 ай бұрын
Learn sprint
@hopeisit13472 ай бұрын
@@t.t.t.7419 Not always an option
@markmail61796 ай бұрын
On the mat I would take Gracie Jiu-Jitsu in the street I would take judo everyday of the week and twice on Sunday
@markmail61796 ай бұрын
Joe you're absolutely correct any martial art that doesn't have full contact sparring is a joke really it is it's almost like shadow boxing which you know I'm not saying it's a joke I'm just saying if you don't go full-out 100% sparring then you really are in the dark in my opinion the best self defense on this planet is for the street because you're not on no feather pillow Mat and that's where the Gracie's conned the world in my opinion I will guarantee you Rickson nor anybody else in his would have challenged a judo master in a street fight on pavement like he did with that luta livre guy on the Beach he knew damn good and well he wasn't going to get hurt very bad on that sand you know it and I know it you know pulling guard is alright even on asphalt if you have to but it's going to hurt your back you're going to be cut up and bleeding in the hospital for that pulling that guard where judo has the stand-up skills to lay you down and being a superior position if the throw doesn't kill you or knock you out
@jiujitsu28286 ай бұрын
I'll give you a hundred bucks if you can kick me in the balls or poke my eye!
@VenturaIT6 ай бұрын
most guys who invested their life in the MMA martial arts will never admit that their system isn't the end all be all of martial arts... but Rickson Gracie AND Gracie Academy admit it in videos: Rogan keep saying that MMA guys are trained killers, which is not true, they are trained to win sporting matches in a ring on a mat with rules with a referee with gloves with a mouth guard, etc. etc... so he's delusional about that... But Rogaine is right that really good MMA/UFC guys will beat 99% of everyone in a fight, a 1 v 1 stand up, roll around fight... MMA guys wins 9.9 times out of 10... but MMA guys don't want to admit that it's not always a 1 v 1 or a fair fight, MMA assumes a fair fight... on the street the guys not going for his keys, he's going for the 2x4 from the construction site right there or his knife or his gun... or a chair, etc. etc... it's totally different than a sporting MMA fight. An "attack" is not the same thing as a "fight"... when someone comes after you to hurt you that's not the same as a 1 v 1 stand up fight where the two people go at each other without dirty tricks... street fights and war are full of dirty tricks, squadrons of soldiers not 1 v 1 , 2 v 1, 3 v 1, 10 v 1, etc... IT"S NOT THE SAME THING... Again Rogaine is right, MMA/UFC pro is going to kill 9.9 out of 10 in a 1 V 1 fair fight... but just ask Uriah Faber who almost died in a bar fight if even untrained thugs fight fair... Urijah Faber MMA/UFC/Muay Thai/NCAA Wrestling/BJJ WORLD CHAMPION almost died in a street fight, Aikido black belt never would have got in that situation and would have been better prepared against multiple attackers, known not to clinch, go to ground in a street fight: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nWGjpcewj8jMaZc.html Rickson Gracie starting his BJJ seminar with Aikido drills made famous by Tohei Sensei (Aikido's former head instructor) a long time ago then saying that BJJ guard has nothing to do with self defense. Professor Rickson is basically teaching Aikido basics in this seminar. Put an Aikido gi on him and its an Aikido class. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJxnrZatpNrbqco.html Here is some of the Gracie family members at "Gracie Jiu-jitsu Academy" recounting how a Gracie Jiu-Jitsu purple belt student got beat up in a street fight and felt that his BJJ was useless. The student pulled guard but was getting hurt with punches that he never learned and he was a purple belt. The BJJ purple belt was disallusioned with BJJ and act why haven't I ever learned this in BJJ. kzread.info/dash/bejne/l2xqlsuTZNaoaLQ.html
@michaelbrowning57476 ай бұрын
Watch pride
@JakeSmith-em5sh6 ай бұрын
People who chose boxing and freestyle wrestling in the room. 🫥
@TheValledorLife6 ай бұрын
have you seen this? jiujitsu is only effective if the fighter wants to play with you. kzread.info/dash/bejne/go5tq5N8o7TInJc.htmlsi=Iy0OAXc0FFCkUl_B
@davidmyhra49316 ай бұрын
Judo can’t be done when you get older. For young people judo is awesome.
@Charismaniac6 ай бұрын
Sambo is the realest. Its judo on steroids with striking.
@muER766 ай бұрын
joe and jocko are failed thai boxers
@PaterPerker6 ай бұрын
If combat sports were flavors of ice cream, Joe Rogan and Jocko Willink, regardless of how much they like other flavors, they just - to save their own fucking lives - can't help but add in that extra scoup of Jiu Jitsu flavor, can they?
@jarethozb076 ай бұрын
I slightly dis agree with Joe here because you will only really get into fights with people who don't know how to fight. The people who know how to fight don't get into fights for a few reasons one being they know what could happen and they don't wanna kill someone and they don't have the "Tough guy" ego and the need to see how they measure up.
@Mr-ye1vu6 ай бұрын
BJJ is for people who don’t want to fight.
@frankthefrankly80556 ай бұрын
Fedor Emelianenko versus Woody Allen Krav Maga........ we don't even need to discuss this in a serious manner. its a Comedy fight.
@naveedhasan53656 ай бұрын
70% times you have to get in the ground but 100% times started on standing up.
@privateuploads53972 ай бұрын
not true. The only thing that happen is both are grapplers/bjj. But strikers or muay thai fighters, the moment you lay down, goodluck to your legs. 100% of the battle at first are all standing. Very less change of grappling. The only time grappling happen if either both or the other one is exhausted.
@joeytan79866 ай бұрын
In my experience a past amateur boxer and 5 year bjj practitioner, close the distance with solid strikes, when they clench...get underhooks, takem to the ground and just drive their head into the pavement whilst slamming your elbow into the back of their head. With the right mindset, boxing and bjj are lethal combos in any altercation
@Azraerll6 ай бұрын
Trick question judo is jujitsu. u don't need a coat for judo. Joe Rogan is such a troll 😂😂😂😂
@GenDominion6 ай бұрын
I understand taking Jiu-Jitsu lightly and denigrating it as a sport, but I'm afraid there's going to be a fool who really believes it and picks a fight with someone who trained Jiu-Jitsu. Do not fight against any kind of grappler. Ever
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I learned people fly.and ript once a arm out of its seat ..osoto gari in chokehold on the ground😂😂judo skills kills .saved me alot.deflect attacks and take over .7kyu
So if you only had to choose one style, which one would it be for self-defense in a real situation?
Should i learn judo or wushu 🙄, wushu seems like more injury prone
1:40
Tbh, ground fights are freaking boring to watch. Which is why the most exciting fight to watch are both strikers. If you want to watch ground fights, just watch wrestling or BJJ Championship match.
Fighting a real muay thai, there's a good chance you either die or broke your leg,nose, ribs, jaw. Those mofo kicks is like getting beat up by a baseball bat.
Just like SAKURABA toying around with the Gracie BJJ Brothers. Beats them in their own ground game. Lost an arm after. Gracie even Surrenders. Watch youtube fight Muay Thai vs BJJ, how useless BJJ becomes on a kicking battle. You will literally lost your leg if you're not being careful with real Muay Thai(Thailander) fighter. BJJ us useful to ground fitghs esp. if the opponent doesnt know how to do ground fights, but to a striker kick or punch, goodluck. Just like Joe said, a fight started at standing far apart.
jiujitsu was invented as a complete last resort in a fight. i swear dudes use it as an excuse to 69 each other. any skilled muay thai fighter with good take down resistance strategy will make a gayjitsu fighter his bitch. ive seen it time and time again. a skilled wing chun fighter will pluck your eye out of your fucking skull before you could blink. the jiujitsu campaign is such a scam and not practical irl
Rodtang vs DJ
do u know what episode this is?
I would agree to train martial arts, but train with weapons and dirty tactics as well
Krav Maga never claimed that they can deal with trained fighter. It's self-defense that help peoplr gettting out of situations
If a trained killer attacks you with the intent to kill you, what do you think is going to happen?
Joe likes referring to BJJ guys as trained killers or just killers but no ones killing anyone in BJJ competitions. So they're not killers until they've killed . And all the killers are in prison or in the military Infantry MOS or SOCOM shooters and are war veterans. BJJ players are athletes, not killers. . .Unless they're BJJ players whom served as an infantryman or SOCOM shooter in military combat , but then we're not killing with BJJ but rather using martial (military) weapons to kill the opposition. Joe has been in entertainment too long.
Muay Thai
As a striker myself I give the win to grappling in general - whether wrestling or BJJ. But if we break down which type of fight then that's a whole different story. Against multiple people? boxing. Followed by Muay Thai. Unless you're like me and way better at kicks than anything then Muay Thai first place. But thinking average dude no shoulder problems etc. Boxing first Against a guy your size? Wrestling or BJJ Against a guy much bigger than you? BJJ
"teaches you how to play" come to a varsity wrestling practice youll see what play is
where are all the BJJ nuthuggers shooting down Joe and saying how BJJ is the best?
Muay Thai destroys jujitsu always.
Khabib is the only exception. The muay tahi fighters need to check his takedowns
For street fight, muy Thai is best in my opinion If opponent pulls out a knife You at least can use your legs to kick him away and run You don’t want that knife near you
Here’s the two truths people miss. First, in a real world violent personal assault, the bad guy or guys do not want you to get away. I can’t take your shit if you’re across the street. So the assault will be up close and personal. That’s grappling distance. Second, Jigoro Kano figured this out in 1882 and every 20 years or so people need to learn it again. The way you defeat so called deadly techniques, that cannot be practiced and mastered; Is with safe techniques that can. Judo gave us the idea of sparring in real time full speed resisting opponents conditions.
Please interview tony somers and jeoff Thompson
Judo is one of those martial arts that'll have your opponent wondering what just happened to them 😆
Idk I think muay thai over bjj. Of course you think you can close the distance with a grapple technique then you get surprised by a knee or a leg kick to the face or temple
When he says Jiu-jitsu, surely he means Japanese Jujutsu. That is a martial art born for purely self defence (combat Jujutsu). It covers every scenario from standing, to takedowns, to grappling, but has the added teachings of being dirty and striking erroneous areas with certain parts of your body (for example, Jujutsu practitioners prefer to guillotine with the blade/bone of your forearm crushing your opponent's Adam's apple; they like that forearm blade, they like elbows, headbutts and palms, they practice face raking, eye gouging, low blows, doing clever take downs followed by submissions designed to cripple, such as a one-legged Boston crab or wristlock after torpedoing a knee on your downed opponents' head). It's a martial art designed for instant self defense. Both Judo and Brazilian Jiu-jitsu stemmed from Jujutsu.
The point being missed is in a real street fight, you get to break fingers and poke eyes 👀👊 that breaks up anything a grappler wants to do 🎉
Imagine you trying a lock and you get skitty bap on the back of your head or neck hard af. Yea gotta have both.
i'm in krav maga and agree with Joe. i've also done muay thai. on the other hand, it's usually not a bjj expert or a karate expert or boxer (or someone in martial artis) that you have look out for on the streets. it's safe to say that martial artists are not looking for fights because they are disciplined and not trying to hurt people on the street. it is helpful to train with other martial arts experts to sharpen what we've learned about other sport fighting techniques or martial artists in general. i like krav maga because it does teach a basic level of physical strength training, self-defense, weapons defense, and some grappling from to keep at bay an attacker from the street.
Should someone tell him? You don't need a heavy jacket to do Judy.. There are videos during the WW2 era of soldiers in the Imperial military practicing Judo without the kimono/gi. Many early judoka preferred ne-waza which is why Kano started putting more emphasis into tachi-waza in the curriculum and why you see it being practiced under olympic judo; over time this is changing due to various competitive formats
I thought this was going to be about jujutsu but it was actually about Brazillian jiu jitsu.
Honest thoughts from you guys…For street defence is it better to learn Muay Thai or Judo?? I am mid 40s age
Learn sprint
@@t.t.t.7419 Not always an option
On the mat I would take Gracie Jiu-Jitsu in the street I would take judo everyday of the week and twice on Sunday
Joe you're absolutely correct any martial art that doesn't have full contact sparring is a joke really it is it's almost like shadow boxing which you know I'm not saying it's a joke I'm just saying if you don't go full-out 100% sparring then you really are in the dark in my opinion the best self defense on this planet is for the street because you're not on no feather pillow Mat and that's where the Gracie's conned the world in my opinion I will guarantee you Rickson nor anybody else in his would have challenged a judo master in a street fight on pavement like he did with that luta livre guy on the Beach he knew damn good and well he wasn't going to get hurt very bad on that sand you know it and I know it you know pulling guard is alright even on asphalt if you have to but it's going to hurt your back you're going to be cut up and bleeding in the hospital for that pulling that guard where judo has the stand-up skills to lay you down and being a superior position if the throw doesn't kill you or knock you out
I'll give you a hundred bucks if you can kick me in the balls or poke my eye!
most guys who invested their life in the MMA martial arts will never admit that their system isn't the end all be all of martial arts... but Rickson Gracie AND Gracie Academy admit it in videos: Rogan keep saying that MMA guys are trained killers, which is not true, they are trained to win sporting matches in a ring on a mat with rules with a referee with gloves with a mouth guard, etc. etc... so he's delusional about that... But Rogaine is right that really good MMA/UFC guys will beat 99% of everyone in a fight, a 1 v 1 stand up, roll around fight... MMA guys wins 9.9 times out of 10... but MMA guys don't want to admit that it's not always a 1 v 1 or a fair fight, MMA assumes a fair fight... on the street the guys not going for his keys, he's going for the 2x4 from the construction site right there or his knife or his gun... or a chair, etc. etc... it's totally different than a sporting MMA fight. An "attack" is not the same thing as a "fight"... when someone comes after you to hurt you that's not the same as a 1 v 1 stand up fight where the two people go at each other without dirty tricks... street fights and war are full of dirty tricks, squadrons of soldiers not 1 v 1 , 2 v 1, 3 v 1, 10 v 1, etc... IT"S NOT THE SAME THING... Again Rogaine is right, MMA/UFC pro is going to kill 9.9 out of 10 in a 1 V 1 fair fight... but just ask Uriah Faber who almost died in a bar fight if even untrained thugs fight fair... Urijah Faber MMA/UFC/Muay Thai/NCAA Wrestling/BJJ WORLD CHAMPION almost died in a street fight, Aikido black belt never would have got in that situation and would have been better prepared against multiple attackers, known not to clinch, go to ground in a street fight: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nWGjpcewj8jMaZc.html Rickson Gracie starting his BJJ seminar with Aikido drills made famous by Tohei Sensei (Aikido's former head instructor) a long time ago then saying that BJJ guard has nothing to do with self defense. Professor Rickson is basically teaching Aikido basics in this seminar. Put an Aikido gi on him and its an Aikido class. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJxnrZatpNrbqco.html Here is some of the Gracie family members at "Gracie Jiu-jitsu Academy" recounting how a Gracie Jiu-Jitsu purple belt student got beat up in a street fight and felt that his BJJ was useless. The student pulled guard but was getting hurt with punches that he never learned and he was a purple belt. The BJJ purple belt was disallusioned with BJJ and act why haven't I ever learned this in BJJ. kzread.info/dash/bejne/l2xqlsuTZNaoaLQ.html
Watch pride
People who chose boxing and freestyle wrestling in the room. 🫥
have you seen this? jiujitsu is only effective if the fighter wants to play with you. kzread.info/dash/bejne/go5tq5N8o7TInJc.htmlsi=Iy0OAXc0FFCkUl_B
Judo can’t be done when you get older. For young people judo is awesome.
Sambo is the realest. Its judo on steroids with striking.
joe and jocko are failed thai boxers
If combat sports were flavors of ice cream, Joe Rogan and Jocko Willink, regardless of how much they like other flavors, they just - to save their own fucking lives - can't help but add in that extra scoup of Jiu Jitsu flavor, can they?
I slightly dis agree with Joe here because you will only really get into fights with people who don't know how to fight. The people who know how to fight don't get into fights for a few reasons one being they know what could happen and they don't wanna kill someone and they don't have the "Tough guy" ego and the need to see how they measure up.
BJJ is for people who don’t want to fight.
Fedor Emelianenko versus Woody Allen Krav Maga........ we don't even need to discuss this in a serious manner. its a Comedy fight.
70% times you have to get in the ground but 100% times started on standing up.
not true. The only thing that happen is both are grapplers/bjj. But strikers or muay thai fighters, the moment you lay down, goodluck to your legs. 100% of the battle at first are all standing. Very less change of grappling. The only time grappling happen if either both or the other one is exhausted.
In my experience a past amateur boxer and 5 year bjj practitioner, close the distance with solid strikes, when they clench...get underhooks, takem to the ground and just drive their head into the pavement whilst slamming your elbow into the back of their head. With the right mindset, boxing and bjj are lethal combos in any altercation
Trick question judo is jujitsu. u don't need a coat for judo. Joe Rogan is such a troll 😂😂😂😂
I understand taking Jiu-Jitsu lightly and denigrating it as a sport, but I'm afraid there's going to be a fool who really believes it and picks a fight with someone who trained Jiu-Jitsu. Do not fight against any kind of grappler. Ever