Wing foiling, Sup ,Kite foils and any water sports .The north east uk . I love documenting wing foiling and water sports in the north east uk , looking at peoples gear ideas and the progression. I'm a Dad and family Man and the average weekend water warrior that enjoys my life with the amazing people in the north east .
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Nice swell! Looks like all the main brands are doing constant foil upgrades to these higher performance levels. I’m fine with the technology moving forward since we all can decide if/when to upgrade. I’m pretty sure I’ll upgrade to the new system. I’ll do the new mast (14mm) first and sell my current HM85. The new aluminum fuselages are all pretty cheap so I can do adapters to my current V2 Veloce’s and V2 stabs. I’ll wait and see how the V3 foils play out and most likely upgrade there as well. If I was on a tighter budget I’d have no issue sticking with my current foil rig. I haven’t switched to a skinny mid length board yet either.
@targadave yes the new foils and connection look good I keep pricing a new xl veloce and fuse stab really can't afford it tho haha I also need a 3.5m wing for this winter love a dw board the list is long , and no mid-length here just can't find funds . I've always found a front wing to make the most difference on a set up , so I'm interested why you are going to change mast first and not v2 mast adapter to v3 front and v2 back to use existing stabs or v2 mast v3 front and v3 back . Ty mate
@@christomo I’m not really sure which V3 front wing I want to upgrade to. Want to see more reviews first. I was also thinking that they were going to be introducing some more V3 front wings as well. Figured I’d just start with the mast first. I’m a firm believer in ultra stiff low drag HM masts. Also here in the US we pay a duty fee for purchases over $800 usd (at least I think it’s $800). So cheaper not to buy everything at once. Either way I’m not in a rush. My current setup works great, and it’s not like this new gear is going to suddenly make us older blokes ride 10x better🤣
@targadave 👌 cool, good idea 💡 I'm obsessed looking at the veloce h xl and the curve h but already have 3 curve h v2, so I probably go for the Vh in xl We have a bank job planned if you are up for it already. Have a few foilers up for it . we just need a driver
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Tomo the encyclopaedia of foiling knowledge 👏🏻👏🏻
You're the best when it comes to gong! Good independent reviews about their gear.. love your videos... You deserve to have a free test on the new gear from gong so you could give us your thoughts! Keep up the good work .. personally I'm excited about all the Veloce wings... The H and the HDW .. 🤟
@AzoreanGliders wow that's a big compliment thanks I don't think Gong knows I make these vids haha so fat chance and I'm in uk so makes it hard to send things anyway one of the reasons there is no uk Ambassadors . Yes, the dw foils look great. I was leaning towards a veloce h v2 myself before these came out. Hope they do a plane stab front and fuse package deal. It might take the sting out of buying almost a new system . Again, thanks for watching and kind comments. Have a great week .
Hi Chris. I compared the Veloce XLH V2 and V3 frontwings. The dimensions are about the same. Gong says you can go 200cm2 lower for the same lift with V3 compared to V2. But Gong also says: an XL is an XL. From V1 to V2 indeed the area was made less for an XL, but from V2 to V3 I still see 1150cm2. Of course the shape of the Veloce is new and more in line with competitors, but I am not convinced of major improvements. About the fuse: it would give 12% more glide...... I think they mean that that the rounded shape has 12% less resistance than the square one. I believe that but how much is that in the total resistance of the complete foil? Almost nothing. I will hang on to V2 for the coming year :-)
@watercrazylion yes I feel the same as you and happy with what I have, but I will probably get something next year as funds allow, I agree with your statement of less resistance in fuse its all good marketing I'm sure the pros can feel the difference but not sure i would 👍over next few years we will slowly move over no doubt,an ever changing sport . Loved reading your opinion 👌 good winds speak soon. I'm sure the general rule would still be a large is a large and a small is a small and some of the models wings have dropped in area some have thicker profiles and reduced spans but I'm pretty sure the model would be same , otherwise it would be to confusing the statement can take a foil smaller would probably be in reference to some models smaller large v2 vs v3 at a guess marketing blurb that's confusing. However im just guessing and not 100%
I think the reason people will still need to buy v2 foils, is all the beginner & advanced foils are still v2 right? ( X-over, curve, veloce, fluid). But if buying a carbon mast they might want to just straight to v3 mast.
@timtravelnomad yes your totaly spot on there . Personally, I think the intermediate and beginner foils will follow soon and be the same fittings, but the v2 stuff is very good and won world titals, and there are some good deals to be had Thanks for watching and commenting.
Side question, I haven't ride in a while, my Takuma RS 5.1 has only 2 sessions... Is your buddy happy with his RS ? Any durability concerns ? Else ? Thanks in advance.
Oh gosh. A new system. It's good and bad I guess. I don't think there is a titanium fuselage that allows you to use v2 mast with v3 foil. Only alu. But in an IG story from Patrice it appears that you can sand the bottom of your v2 mast to make it a v3 mast (and thus fit it in the new v3 titanium fuselage). He said only 2 min of sanding!? The shapes must be very similar.
Yes sanding will round it off so it fits i also saw his post , however i did see a titanium fuselage in the v2 mast option only for the v3 stab and v3 front wings i double checked . that would be the one i would go for i think . thanks for watching and commenting . good winds buddy
@@christomo you are right! I didn't see that
@windaddict I studied it for 4 hours, 😄 . I'm a wind addict as well
@@christomo hahaha, nice!!
Another great vid Chris, there’s so much choice out there… you make such an important point about buying kit for the local conditions you sail in, something that’s perhaps overlooked at times 👍🏻
@jonip.21 😊 😊 thanks 👍 we can all get carried away and forget about our own conditions, ability, and time we have to do and learn all this thanks for commenting 👍
nice bud! interesting they are making all those different fuse options! and I didn't know alum masts have a tendency to break... makes a lot more sense as we are putting bigger loads on them than when we kite foiled. I wonder how the flex on ti is compared to alum.
@OCEANBOUND1 the part that breaks it the fuselage seen it on a few brands as the metal fatigues the titanium fuselage will not break it is so stiff it would not bend . But titanium is heavy buy ok in a small section as in the fuse also it is hollow to reduce weight . All the fse options are to make it compatable with all the older masts front wings and rear foils however who would buy a new version mast and put old wings on it i just dont see it but each to there own .Thanks for watching bud 👍 have a awesome weekend
Awesome review. The new gear looks amazing, but you're right when you say it gets a little costly. I started on the V1 setup and moved up to the V2 which I have been using for the past few years. I'm really keen to upgrade but essentially it's like building the kit all over! I can fully understand why Gong has introduced this new range and it's definitely the way to go when the budget allows :)
@blooskyy7 yes I too will buy I to it eventually as I can using the v2 mast I currently have thanks so much for the support and commenting 😀 good winds mate
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@mylife.5638 thanks hope it helps a few confused about it from a none ambassador 😀
I was thinking about buying a new front wing, with HM mast , titanium fuselage. And i would like your opinion if you don't mind. I am the same weight as you and my regular spot is around 12-14 knots most of the time. I have the X-over XXL (2050cm2) and i contacted sales of gong they told me next reasonable step would be Curve H. Right now i am working on my jibes and i have been successful 1-2 times / session i guess. What do you think about the Curve H? Also which size do you recommend? I was thinking about 1300 or 1600 , while the X-Over i will try to sell it soon enough so it will not be included in my quiver. Even if i should wait for the new fuselage + wings i would like your input here. Thank you in advance.
@izno-r2y hope you are well. Thanks for watching. I can be riding on the curve h xxl from 12 to 20kn and curve h xl from 15kn to 25kn. I use both with a large size freestyle stab to shorten fuse and liven them up , with a 86 cm mast and titanium fuse . For lower winds, I would be tempted to say xxl curve h. I would maybe say to wait to see what new wings are like, I am guessing next few weeks for release 😀. I'm my opinion. The xxl xover won't be holding you back from doing jibes and perseverance learning another 5 sessions to dial them in won't hurt . Try a second-hand kite stab or a small fluid stab to liven the xover up while you wait to decide on the new wing update . However, the curve h in xl is my favourite foil so far in a good wind. Low stall speed gets up early and glides well . Hope this helps some .
Just a note I had the xover v1 xxl and when I bought the curve h xl I never used the xover again It was 1 session to get used to the curve h as you have to generate a little more forward speed to fly Hope it helps
@@christomo Yeah i don't mind using the X-over a little more. I am just a little eager for the next step :) Based on your wind ranges i guess Curve H XXL would be more appropriate for my spot. I will wait the next few weeks and if nothing happens i think im going for the Curve H XXL. Appreciate your help, thank you very much !
@izno-r2y anytime a pleasure, I learned my gybes and footswaps on the xover, and I found a small stab made it more manoeuvrable worth a thought they pop up for 30 ,40 euros while you wait . Goods winds .
I will comment here so I would remind you of our conversation. You were right about the new system in the end. Right now though, they kinda changed the surface area and as they said "On average you can go for 200 cm2 less surface area than with the previous generation for equal lift." So in regards of the previous XXL curve h which was 1600cm2 now we have again the XXL with 1370+200? So I should stick in your opinion with 2xl or shall I move with 3xl? I will also ask the contract support, but I would like also your opinion here. Great video once again and thank you for your time.
That was a great session 😎
@@SteveMarshall-l3g sure was roll on next time
Interesting. That's why their current foils are on huge discount. I just got an Ypra-S for -40%. I think I will wait some time before considering changing fuselage.
@windaddict yes if they change to an oval, I will be a bit slow to change as well because I just got the titanium a few months back .Also To my eye, the mast looks a bit further back from the front foil, but I've only seen the picture that Patrice posted . I also just bought the yapra s in xl its faster but I feel I'm comming off foil when doing tacks maybe I'm not going in to them fast enough 😊
Interesting news about the new Gong fuse system, where did you see this reported, it isn't spring on their site?
@blooskyy7 no confirmed reports just yet and this is just my opinion but from the photos I showed in video that where shared on fb, and as I say it's just speculation, but it looks like it would be released as all the foils are sold out and on sale and we are over due but in the photo you can clearly see a oval fuse connection. Looks like it's with the standard mast well I really would hope so . I am awaiting confirmation and the release of more info as well with crossed fingers 🤞 Ha e a great week
lol looks like the ocean let you keep a wing intact this day! waves look sick. nice passing behind the back! looks like a great day!
Yes, I got to keep it intact thanks the mother nature .shame gopro flattens waves but you know what its like ,it was in my top 5 days for sure .roll on the next one. I hope you're well 🙏 😊 Speak soon
Some mega rides there Chris 😎🏄♂️🌊
@jonip.21 thanks John we need more days like that for sure 🙏 👍
Nice rides Chris looked like belting conditions 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻🏄♂️
@andybarber7563 one of the better days just a bit underpowered at times but no complaints 👌 . Hope you are getting a few in Wales?
Couple of Days at Rhossy first day was great conditions then second was flat water, that was Wednesday Thursday last week, nothing after that but had great time, back Wednesday and free onwards for Northumberland Rd trip 🤞🏻👍🏻🏄♂️
@andybarber7563 I'm free Thurs Fri but graft Sat tho . Enjoy Wales 😉
Interesting stuff, Chris. My bank balance doesn't need a new system, but my foiling might😂
@glimpseireland2005 I keep thinking about starting a Facebook group for gear addiction . Yes tbh curve H is still my favourite foil or the spitfire from axis . In 5 years time we will all be on radically different equipment.by then I would like to see brands making masts universal size and fittings less landfill . Thanks for watching 👀 have a great week 😀
sweet edit buddy
@savmf thanks Sav mate
sweet sesh at Seaburn! gotta love a 4m sesh. I like the subtle effects, I couldn't tell if it was my lack of caffeine or not :P
@OCEANBOUND1 just messing around with a cartoon effect haha 😄 thanks for watching mate 👍
Great video chris I just wondered what ypra you ordered size and model please thanks
Yes 8 bought the yarpra surf in size xl . Only had a few goes and needs a bit of getting used to faster but you need to keep speed up so you don't stall it as the volume is half of the curve h I love so it's a trade off I will use it when it's very windy 25mp plus for my 95kg. Thanks for watching I will do a full review after a few more trys Good winds Paul
Great vid, you’ve sold me on the ypra, I was undecided between the curve h , hopefully have it for autumn winter season look forward to seeing you use it .
@chrrissss had a go today the ypra and it needs a lot more wind and speed to make jibes and tacks but it is faster and feels a lot like the curve h when up and riding I will be using it as my high wind wing and using the curve h xl for everyday wave riding the curve h is an amazing all-rounder in 11kn to 30kn. Thanks for the support and message appreciated 🙏
I now have ordered a Gong Mint 5,10 fsp 2x 👌💪😊🤙 Choosed 2x because it is a more impact resistance version and a 5,10 because I’m an older gay, 61 years old. Thanks for your time and advice 🙏🤙
That's a good choice Ken I'm sure it will serve you well 😊 5.10 is a great all-round size
@@christomo Do you Mount railtape with hair dryer?
@kenholmdal I always use the gorilla tape or clear waterproof tape of amazon it's cheep I do rails and foil box boad is as new 2 years on . Yes put board on its side tape one end then pull along rail heat with hair dryer to help shape to rail round edges to stop them peeling hope that helps Not affiliated link just shows what I use it's nice thick amzn.eu/d/0colyPYf
@@christomo Thanks again. I have exactly the same gorilla tape in my repair pack 😊🤙
Hi Chris. Just received my new mint fsp 2x 😊 and have put some gorilla tape I the bottom over holes for foil mast. Can’t find your video where you use a hair dryer for the rail guard/tape
hello chris, im looking at your freefly you were doing some downwind on this one 👌👍, i've been doing too much freefly recently my knuckle are bleeding due to abrasion from the dacron 🤣
Need a lot of practice unweighting the board but got to start somewhere 😊 Thanks for watching hope your well and enjoying your summer ☀️
Can you recommend a gong all round board for me. Intermedia level. 195 cm. 95 kg. Looking at the mint fsp 2x 130 liter.
Hi Ken, thanks for watching. Try to go for the pro models worth the little extra cash imo. I'm 95kg to 100kg with my wet kit on, and I dropped to a 95l lemon and love it, but all I want to do is flag out on wind swell .I think i would be ok on a 75l but our winds drop off with no warnings and having a body weight board is good to get back to shore in yhese conditions if you are intermediate as in your getting 90% gybes and starting tacks maybe 100 sessions in ,and you may want to go for a 95litres board or a 105 litre if you get a lot of lighter winds. Model would depend on what you want to do rides swell or bigger waves or jump go mint for pure all round and easy lemon is still easy but more wave focused . 120L is still a big board for your 95kg, and a 105 will be easy after a dozen sessions. Hope this helps. Feel free to ask more if I can help. I am also on fb, same name, if it's easier 😊 Good winds bro
@@christomo thanks for your advice 😊 the reason for choosing the fsp 2x is that it is easier to repair, I think, maybe I am wrong!?! So in your opinion I should go for the mint size 5,8?
@kenholmdal yes that would be a great forever board imo . The 5.2 lemon if you want a short board or mint5.8 a slightly longer one and will get up a little easier. The pro boards easy to repair just sand and glass dings but have a look at my board set up vid I railtape mine there is no dings on .y mint 3 years on however I don't use hard handels or a harness for that reason
@@christomo Thanks 🙏🤙
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thanks for your opinion about gong curve. the same opinion I had when I bought an xxl 104 and you confirm my assumption 👌🤙
No problem 👍 Just bought a ypra xl for the higher winds a thinner foil for more glide and speed in high winds
I can't get enough of the drone footage, so awesome to watch. hey do you know what size ML Armstrong board your friend was paddling in the second part?
yes my man it was the armi mid 55l he loves it , so glad you enjoyed the video i will catch up on yours when i can watch it on the big screen over weekend if i get 10 mins to myself lol Have an awesome weekend 🤗
@@christomo thanks! I just got a 75L and was wondering how close it was to that one. All good bud I wish you and yr crew an awesome weekend!
@@OCEANBOUND1 Julian is around 60kg at a guess
Those 360s are looking nice! That shot at the end when the camera pans out and showing Seaburn in all its glory with Bolam riding is special!
yes another awesome session mate for sure we have been lucky to get winds this time of year . speak soon mate .
Great that you’re taking the time to document this Chris. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Mate glad you enjoyed it I think it will be fun to look back in 10 years 😀
Nice video! I especially like the prone bit at the end. Would you guys like to join us in Stranraer in August for our wingfoil race weekend? 9-11th August. It’s a fun event not too far from your neck of the woods. Also if you happen to know any under 19’s who wingfoil I’m organising a coaching event for them (x-15). Thanks!
I will share it on our group chat. Send me a link to the event on fb. I'm the same name and pic on there. There is a local event that weekend here as well, tho . Thanks for watching. The prone guys are getting very good loads of hard work .
Hello back chris, is it me or you unlocked a lot of new manoeuvers !🎉 congrats bro it's clean 🤙 ps : cool surf foil at the end 😊
Thanks for watching mate . I had a month off fro. Filming and concentrated on a bit of self progress. Hard to film and practice but I do love to capture the guys ripping on film . As always thanks for ongoing support and kind comment 🙏 goid winds and waves
Alright, Chris. Long time buddy, hope you are well 👍 I just logged into my old vlogging account to check something and of course all my recommended videos changed and your video popped up. I must sub to your channel from my main channel (which I thought I already had done). Footage looks great mate, the drone footage does look very impressive. Whoever shot the drone stuff must be very confident, there’s no way I’d be flying a drone over open water, it’d be turning into a submarine really quickly 🤣 Anyway, great video, editing and V/O 👍 Cheers, Dave.
haha Nice one Dave mate ,good to hear from you it's been to long , still loving getting out and having a blast with the guys just had my 50th in tenby There is a vid haha )that was an epic week on the water drinking and singing songs and playing guitar (badly) . Mark is a good drone pilot and not afraid of losing a drone next video monday he is flying very close to the water 3m high quite a few times at the most as there is no wind . thanks for kind comments on vid quality and vo means loads coming from yourself , I have been a little lost and so had a short break to reevaluate the chanel and will be not sticking to weekly vids and just doing them for fun, im trying to not getting stuck on how many subs i dont have and so forth, as it just takes away from the fun of recording and editing for me my buds and to help others , i need to start to be myself instead of a pc version of the real me . anyways enough waffle take it easy bud speak soon
I forgot I didn't comment on this, I watched it in the shower. lol. my friend has a Wing Neutra UPE Aramid and it's pretty sweet. he's a ripper and really digs it. can't deny that price... even I'm interested!
Yes, I love mine. I bought a 4.5m as well, haha. might go for the new aramid with x cloth in a 3.5 later in the year . As always, thanks for watching I look forward to your comments and thoughts. Did you see my birthday one in Tenby What a place . Next year in may the Marras are going to Scotland the outer islands one called Tiree a mecca for windsport for Andys 60th . Anyway good winds buddy
tacks are frustration! I've attempted thousands at this point, I'm solid at toeside in one direction, heelside on the other. but I still have work on the opposite. always stuff to work on. but nothing better than tacking onto a wave! and thanks Mark :) wishing all the crew an awesome rest of your week out there!
I only do heelside regular stance and toeside on the other side won't be learning swich to tricky for little gain. All about the waves my man .
Where’s this at please
HI Dave thanks for watching we are in Seaburn in the North East UK. Good winds Chris
With my sk8 950 my tack rate is like 20% 😂 annoying it’s like im starting again, 1400cm2 foil with a ratio of 7 help a lot and i think being a bit overpowered on a 5m help too everything factor count when you are learning.
Yes just got to keep hammering 🔨 them home . All the fun is learning have to embrace the challenge. Your dockstart is looking very good as well mate . Take care speak soon
Cool entertainment as always 👍🏄🏼♂️
Thanks for watching and commenting ❤️
Haha! Paul kicking the wing at the end and all our crashes, perfect ending :D And Easton on drone, great footage as always. Cheers Marras!
yes loved that reaction if it was not a challenge i dont think it would keep us so hooked . rollon the next one
Looks a great wing hope you enjoy it 😊
Looks amazing in wales😊
Thanks buddy hope your well 👍
Awesome enjoyed that mate 😊
Thanks so much 🙏 hood winds fella
Cheers Chris! Next time out 😊👍
Loving it roll on the next one
Feel,your pain still not reliable tacks 😵💫 from myself, slowly, slowly improving
@@andybarber7563 we will get it mate 😉👍
Exactly! Grind away and polish those (core) skillz. Sacrafice a couple of sessions and be prepared to be frustrated. It eases the pain. :-)
Well said 👏 solid advice there .Thanks for watching and commenting ❤️
Thanks great video
Thanks so much it's appreciated ☺️ 🙏
Looks like you got a belter there👍🏻🏄♂️
Yep big improvement can't wait for the 4.5m to drop on my doormat
i like the new color ! nice review .
Thanks for me it's a big jump in performance ordered a 4.5 as well 👍
@@christomo it's a v4 with différent color ? Or they changed the shape ?
@youdigsurf tweaked the shape and draft, and the trailing edge seems stiffer. There are new handles. They are more stiff. I'm so impressed I've bought another.
Great to see the comparison between your wings Chris, the knew Nuetra looks the business 😎
Really feels like a big jump in performance mate I'm impressed
Cheers, mate 🎉🤙🎂 congrats to you
Thanks man
Looked amazing! Happy Birthday young man!
Thanks mate