I have a 40T12BLB lamp that occasionally has a swirling arc like that. Low hours. Could it be about to die?
@saelkiesongs Жыл бұрын
If it's a fairly new lamp it may just be impurities/phosphor caught up in the arc stream which may start to swirl. Swirling is not uncommon in lamps that haven't seen much use. I have an F4T5 that has swirled occasionally its entire life, so I have to turn it off for a bit and back on when that happens.
@Sparky-ww5re Жыл бұрын
Awesome demonstration! I knew that these types of starters were around for a very long time, my 1948 GE catalog lists the Watchdog starters, I never understood why they were nowhere near as common as the standard glow starters. Worth noting that under normal conditions a starter normally outlives several lamps and lasts for decades, and when you see a fluorescent lamp only lighting at the ends in a preheat fixture, the starter has failed shorted, and 9 times out of 10 resulted from continuously attempting to start a burned out lamp that blinks. If the starter failed first (very unlikely) the lamp can be damaged by prolonged lighting at the ends. The ballast can overheat and fail, possibly smoking and catching fire if there's no thermal protection or the protection failed. Very old ballasts often did not have thermal protector.
@saelkiesongs Жыл бұрын
Indeed, and I have heard of some cases where a ballast failure has caused a building fire. Years ago I read of some collectors of vintage lights wiring low-amperage fuses inline with the ballast. This would at least cut power to the ballast if the ballast started to draw more current than normal since it may still not be enough current draw to trip the breaker of the circuit it would be on. I've done this with my oldest fluorescent lights as a precaution.
@Sparky-ww5re Жыл бұрын
@@saelkiesongs low amp inline fuses ? That sounds like a good idea even with more modern class P ballasts because sometimes the thermal protector can weld the contacts closed and allow for a building fire should overheating occur for any reason. I've heard of cases of this happening when 34 watt energy saving lamps aka Watt-Mieser, Econ-O-Watt, are used with older ballasts designed for true 40 watt T12 4 footers, which tend to cause the ballast to run hotter than usual and after the thermal protector cycles repeatedly for some time fails closed causing smoke, dripping tar and sometimes fire. Do you have a recommended fuse size for some common ballasts wattages/types?
@saelkiesongs Жыл бұрын
@@Sparky-ww5re I think I used 2A fuses because that's what I had on hand, but it might be even better to use 1A for a double 40w fixture as those ballasts don't draw more than 0.85A. The fuse wouldn't necessarily stop a ballast from overheating like the thermal protector is supposed to, but if the ballast is shorted or otherwise drawing too much current for some reason it would cut that fixture out without affecting other stuff on the circuit. Since all magnetic ballasts are at least well-used or have been sitting on a shelf or in a fixture unused for years....the capacitors are more prone to failure, so I bet failures will be more and more common among whatever is still used. I had a F15T8 choke ballast on a terrarium fixture short out a few years ago...it wasn't protected at all and became very hot, fortunately I noticed the lamp was dark and noticed the electrical burning smell. Ultimately it blew the fluorescent tube so then went open circuit and deactivated itself quickly that way.
@jaedenspider877 Жыл бұрын
why did it say enter text here....
@saelkiesongs Жыл бұрын
editing error...didn't catch it before posting.
@bessiehutchins3647 Жыл бұрын
This also happened at my apartment complex in Salisbury NC
@MrLumination2 жыл бұрын
I really like the 22w circline light. Also that 13w fixture has beautiful starter sounds
@Permitted2Shine2 жыл бұрын
Cool! Did you do the music?
@saelkiesongs Жыл бұрын
Yes...and thanks!
@FLCollection6202 жыл бұрын
What editing software did you use?
@saelkiesongs2 жыл бұрын
I'm not entirely certain what I was using at the time. It used to be Windows Movie Maker on Windows 7, but then I went to VideoPad by NCH software.
@FLCollection620 Жыл бұрын
@@saelkiesongs thanks.
@Electromaniac4202 жыл бұрын
Thats bad for the lamp
@saelkiesongs2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, but it was done only once for the sake of the video. This particular lamp was also not a very good quality or collectible one.
@breezetix2 жыл бұрын
those are from 40-50's? damn
@benjaminvella27362 жыл бұрын
What type of ballast is that ? Make/model. Most ballasts run the tubes dim & they burn out too soon.
@saelkiesongs2 жыл бұрын
The lamp originally was run on a low power factor rapid start "shoplight" type ballast. I then upgraded the fixture with a better quality ballast which was brighter and ran the lamp until it wouldn't light properly (dim & flickering). For the video, this is running on a universal "Basic 12" electronic 40w T12 ballast which has no end-of-life protection and 600 OCV so it runs lamps until they are literally burned out.
@silentseeker18 жыл бұрын
Very creative. I love the piano music.
@anthonylawrence291810 жыл бұрын
So you took a streetlight home. I have always wanted to do that, but in my area, if a streetlight falls the electric company is right on it. A normal person, unlike me, wouldn't think that's a bad thing. HID lamps forever!!!
@Caterday123411 жыл бұрын
where is ur restore
@Techmatt167Official12 жыл бұрын
i have one 50 watt hps wallpack lighting up my back yard too!
@generator5500w12 жыл бұрын
very cool bulb i use 2 lights, 50 watts HPS lamp each to use floodlights outside
@RobertHellier12 жыл бұрын
this is what annoys me that the T8 tubes take a while to warm up in the cold.. but T12 start up pretty much very quickly... now the world is going to ban the T12 tubes... silly tho i think they are better and last longer than t8 or t 5
@form10913 жыл бұрын
Very cool bulb!
@Dazm22913 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful bulb!! Rare too.
@DDUNES213 жыл бұрын
enough lights??? fetish much!
@Parrot17513 жыл бұрын
Nice start-up video and I like all the bulbs in the background!
@mzh300013 жыл бұрын
fuzzywuzzy
@A2Z8313 жыл бұрын
they look cute from above but they're still all creepy crawly under that fuzzy
@MsKaoz10113 жыл бұрын
I have a pet wolly bear I mean he won't leave me alone=3 I named him Resses=D
@form10913 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you made a New Video....cool fixture
@roybo193014 жыл бұрын
This is just too COOL! I have several of the bottle start EYE`s. and LOT`S of the Ultra Aces That use the FEC starter. I LOVE THE 150 watt version with the ballesting halogen tube in the top of the bulb. But I do not have one of the Incandessent start versions, I`DE KILL FOR ONE!
@psilocyb3r14 жыл бұрын
Pyrrharctia isabella's are f4ckin' cool d00d! Day tripp3r! Peace! :D
@fishman1098814 жыл бұрын
yeah theres a chance
@samandmrcheese14 жыл бұрын
Call me a chicken but those things scare the sh*t out of me.
@fishman1098814 жыл бұрын
in maryland here i currently have over 50, they are abundent in the fall
@roybo193015 жыл бұрын
My Life Just Can`t Be Complete Until I Nab One Of Those Awsome Bulbs!!! And You Are Right It Is A 2000watt Metal Halide.
@gailgrove15 жыл бұрын
I would say it's a 2000 watt metal halide
@roybo193015 жыл бұрын
I WANT THAT BIG BEAUTIFUL BULB ON THE RIGHT!!!!!!! What Kind Is It & Can You Post It Sometime?
@AliceC99315 жыл бұрын
Judging from other bulbs in the background... you're definitely a lightbulb fanatic, aren't you? XD
@Jetrider9115 жыл бұрын
its an HMV (halogen-metalvapour) lampe the crazy internals are the ignition electrodes with the thermal switches and rseistors!) :-)
@xBugJuicex15 жыл бұрын
high pressure sodium :O, it is harmful to the eye in this range?
@form10915 жыл бұрын
what causes this?
@rosskstar16 жыл бұрын
my 19 year old Compax Globe bulb died this week...still have a few Compax's left in a ceiling fan working....can you still find magnetic ballast bulbs?
@Starfleet016 жыл бұрын
hey where do u get really big bulbs? i love them..
@jecwhiz16 жыл бұрын
Thanks but I think the greenish color lighting is prettier!
@jecwhiz16 жыл бұрын
That's cool! Sorry for the long reply....so I guess you got one already?
@jecwhiz16 жыл бұрын
Well some of those (mostly i see 400 watt happen) that has the arc tube break off with a slight tap on the lamp after its been cycling for a long time in a streetlight! More often its the arc tube on the bottom part that falls
@jecwhiz16 жыл бұрын
yep that right! Ever seen a HPS arc tube that actually falls off the frame?
@douro2016 жыл бұрын
The arc inside the alumina arc tube is so hot it literally melts the sodium inside and ionizes it.
@rsl8417 жыл бұрын
I wish i have that power !! ..Great !!
@jecwhiz17 жыл бұрын
This is cool! I also have a HPS that came out of a fallen posttop and I fired it up with my HPS ballast and it still lights up but cycles! :-( The bulb was a Philips (NOT ALTO) and was dated 1997
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I have a 40T12BLB lamp that occasionally has a swirling arc like that. Low hours. Could it be about to die?
If it's a fairly new lamp it may just be impurities/phosphor caught up in the arc stream which may start to swirl. Swirling is not uncommon in lamps that haven't seen much use. I have an F4T5 that has swirled occasionally its entire life, so I have to turn it off for a bit and back on when that happens.
Awesome demonstration! I knew that these types of starters were around for a very long time, my 1948 GE catalog lists the Watchdog starters, I never understood why they were nowhere near as common as the standard glow starters. Worth noting that under normal conditions a starter normally outlives several lamps and lasts for decades, and when you see a fluorescent lamp only lighting at the ends in a preheat fixture, the starter has failed shorted, and 9 times out of 10 resulted from continuously attempting to start a burned out lamp that blinks. If the starter failed first (very unlikely) the lamp can be damaged by prolonged lighting at the ends. The ballast can overheat and fail, possibly smoking and catching fire if there's no thermal protection or the protection failed. Very old ballasts often did not have thermal protector.
Indeed, and I have heard of some cases where a ballast failure has caused a building fire. Years ago I read of some collectors of vintage lights wiring low-amperage fuses inline with the ballast. This would at least cut power to the ballast if the ballast started to draw more current than normal since it may still not be enough current draw to trip the breaker of the circuit it would be on. I've done this with my oldest fluorescent lights as a precaution.
@@saelkiesongs low amp inline fuses ? That sounds like a good idea even with more modern class P ballasts because sometimes the thermal protector can weld the contacts closed and allow for a building fire should overheating occur for any reason. I've heard of cases of this happening when 34 watt energy saving lamps aka Watt-Mieser, Econ-O-Watt, are used with older ballasts designed for true 40 watt T12 4 footers, which tend to cause the ballast to run hotter than usual and after the thermal protector cycles repeatedly for some time fails closed causing smoke, dripping tar and sometimes fire. Do you have a recommended fuse size for some common ballasts wattages/types?
@@Sparky-ww5re I think I used 2A fuses because that's what I had on hand, but it might be even better to use 1A for a double 40w fixture as those ballasts don't draw more than 0.85A. The fuse wouldn't necessarily stop a ballast from overheating like the thermal protector is supposed to, but if the ballast is shorted or otherwise drawing too much current for some reason it would cut that fixture out without affecting other stuff on the circuit. Since all magnetic ballasts are at least well-used or have been sitting on a shelf or in a fixture unused for years....the capacitors are more prone to failure, so I bet failures will be more and more common among whatever is still used. I had a F15T8 choke ballast on a terrarium fixture short out a few years ago...it wasn't protected at all and became very hot, fortunately I noticed the lamp was dark and noticed the electrical burning smell. Ultimately it blew the fluorescent tube so then went open circuit and deactivated itself quickly that way.
why did it say enter text here....
editing error...didn't catch it before posting.
This also happened at my apartment complex in Salisbury NC
I really like the 22w circline light. Also that 13w fixture has beautiful starter sounds
Cool! Did you do the music?
Yes...and thanks!
What editing software did you use?
I'm not entirely certain what I was using at the time. It used to be Windows Movie Maker on Windows 7, but then I went to VideoPad by NCH software.
@@saelkiesongs thanks.
Thats bad for the lamp
Indeed, but it was done only once for the sake of the video. This particular lamp was also not a very good quality or collectible one.
those are from 40-50's? damn
What type of ballast is that ? Make/model. Most ballasts run the tubes dim & they burn out too soon.
The lamp originally was run on a low power factor rapid start "shoplight" type ballast. I then upgraded the fixture with a better quality ballast which was brighter and ran the lamp until it wouldn't light properly (dim & flickering). For the video, this is running on a universal "Basic 12" electronic 40w T12 ballast which has no end-of-life protection and 600 OCV so it runs lamps until they are literally burned out.
Very creative. I love the piano music.
So you took a streetlight home. I have always wanted to do that, but in my area, if a streetlight falls the electric company is right on it. A normal person, unlike me, wouldn't think that's a bad thing. HID lamps forever!!!
where is ur restore
i have one 50 watt hps wallpack lighting up my back yard too!
very cool bulb i use 2 lights, 50 watts HPS lamp each to use floodlights outside
this is what annoys me that the T8 tubes take a while to warm up in the cold.. but T12 start up pretty much very quickly... now the world is going to ban the T12 tubes... silly tho i think they are better and last longer than t8 or t 5
Very cool bulb!
What a beautiful bulb!! Rare too.
enough lights??? fetish much!
Nice start-up video and I like all the bulbs in the background!
fuzzywuzzy
they look cute from above but they're still all creepy crawly under that fuzzy
I have a pet wolly bear I mean he won't leave me alone=3 I named him Resses=D
Nice to see you made a New Video....cool fixture
This is just too COOL! I have several of the bottle start EYE`s. and LOT`S of the Ultra Aces That use the FEC starter. I LOVE THE 150 watt version with the ballesting halogen tube in the top of the bulb. But I do not have one of the Incandessent start versions, I`DE KILL FOR ONE!
Pyrrharctia isabella's are f4ckin' cool d00d! Day tripp3r! Peace! :D
yeah theres a chance
Call me a chicken but those things scare the sh*t out of me.
in maryland here i currently have over 50, they are abundent in the fall
My Life Just Can`t Be Complete Until I Nab One Of Those Awsome Bulbs!!! And You Are Right It Is A 2000watt Metal Halide.
I would say it's a 2000 watt metal halide
I WANT THAT BIG BEAUTIFUL BULB ON THE RIGHT!!!!!!! What Kind Is It & Can You Post It Sometime?
Judging from other bulbs in the background... you're definitely a lightbulb fanatic, aren't you? XD
its an HMV (halogen-metalvapour) lampe the crazy internals are the ignition electrodes with the thermal switches and rseistors!) :-)
high pressure sodium :O, it is harmful to the eye in this range?
what causes this?
my 19 year old Compax Globe bulb died this week...still have a few Compax's left in a ceiling fan working....can you still find magnetic ballast bulbs?
hey where do u get really big bulbs? i love them..
Thanks but I think the greenish color lighting is prettier!
That's cool! Sorry for the long reply....so I guess you got one already?
Well some of those (mostly i see 400 watt happen) that has the arc tube break off with a slight tap on the lamp after its been cycling for a long time in a streetlight! More often its the arc tube on the bottom part that falls
yep that right! Ever seen a HPS arc tube that actually falls off the frame?
The arc inside the alumina arc tube is so hot it literally melts the sodium inside and ionizes it.
I wish i have that power !! ..Great !!
This is cool! I also have a HPS that came out of a fallen posttop and I fired it up with my HPS ballast and it still lights up but cycles! :-( The bulb was a Philips (NOT ALTO) and was dated 1997