Honestly, the only thing that takes away from the reality of the puppets is how King Kong’s fur randomly changes its shape between frames. It’s like you can tell what the animators touched even when the appendages haven’t changed in some frames.
@polyman6859Күн бұрын
Honestly? This doesn't sound objectively better than the Episode 1 we got. George Lucas largely made the right call in altering most ideas on this script. His credit is long past overdue. Obi-Wan in the final script is pretty much irrelevant as an individual outside the final duel. Obi-Wan's characterization is also generally unlikable in the final film as he calls Anakin a dumbass after he saved everyone by winning the race for no reason. He basically only respects those with authority over him like the Queen, his master, and the council. Those with no authority over him get disrespected like Anakin and Jar Jar. While I'm unhappy with Obi-Wan in episode 1 I don't think this prototype script does him justice just because he got the protagonist role that Qui-Gon did. *Really the only reason to list this as a positive for Obi-Wan is because people wanted him as the lead over Qui-Gon because the former was a beloved preestablished character.* We know Obi-Wan as a noble and honorable knight that was trusted by Yoda in the OT so having him be written with Qui-Gon's occasionally amoral rule bending defiance wouldn't make sense. The Queen doesn't want to trust Qui-Gon. The council doesn't trust Qui-Gon before or even after he dies because they begin to think the prophecy was misread in Episode 3. Point is Qui-Gon's traits would fundamentally clash with how we know Obi-Wan from the OT. Qui-Gon isn't young, arrogant, or impatient as Obi-Wan says he was in episode 5. Anakin is still a child at 12 years old so idk why you claimed he wasn't at the end. Anakin and Padme aren't even weird in the final script for episode 1 because there is no mutual romantic tension between them. The age gap isn't a problem because nothing happened beyond Padme being the only person to comfort Anakin after separating from his mother. The romance story doesn't occur until episode 2. I'd argue Anakin being younger in the final script makes him inherently more vulnerable to the wound caused by the separation of his mother, yknow, the start of his important character flaw of not being able to let go? Giving the leading role to Qui-Gon was the smart choice as his death in the original script carries less impact thanks to his characterization not being a bigger focus. His complete absence from the first act also harms this. Qui-Gon in the final script is an unorthodox Jedi while we've always known Obi-Wan to be a conventional paragon. Having a paragon commit somewhat amoral acts that Qui-Gon does in the film would clash, naturally I'm glad those cool traits were given to another character. You can also debate how it would be boring if the strong and wise Kenobi from the OT just... already started strong and wise in Episode 1 but that's an opinion. Here is something mind-blowing, Maul doesn't magically improve just by having more dialogue and screentime. His role, actions, and beliefs are the exact same in the final film because he was always just a tool/extension for his master. This different understanding of Maul in the beta script fundamentally changes nothing in the story. The Maul we got in the film was straightforward and effective, an ever-glaring monster to be afraid/wary of. The more you know about a monster, the less you'll fear it. Maul is nowhere near as scary in TCW as he was in Episode 1 because of all the juicy layers that were added to him after resurrection. There is a time for layered villains like Dooku and there is a time for simple pure evil like Maul. You can argue that one of his prototype designs were more scary than the final design, but the final design mixes in more badass elements that effectively communicate what the character is meant to be. I argue George made the right choice in trimming the fat here with Maul unlike his choice to delete several scenes that expanded Dooku's characterization and role among the Separatists in Episode 2. If I wanted to be REALLY petty I can dismiss prototype Maul for lacking the double bladed saber *alone* but I am trying to be sincere lol. The absence of midichlorians is also not a benefit lol. They don't harm anything and are elaborated on in a meaningful way for Revenge of the Sith with Darth Plagueis. I'll be fair and address the positives the prototype has over the final script. The aliens (Gungans) speaking normally is boring but Jar Jar being less over the top would be welcome. Perhaps it would offer a less effective foil to the Jedi in theory if he's just a normal innocent but I'll entertain that idea since Jar Jar is very excessive in the final story. Seeing Chancellor Valorum outside the senate interacting with Palpatine could expand upon his charming manipulative tactics in a small was even if its not the focus of that scene. Valorum is the person who sends the Jedi to investigate in the first place so elaborating on his agency would benefit the story in a small but substantial way. Overall? The final script was largely better than this prototype script. George Lucas mostly knew what he was doing and made the right call. The Phantom Menace was a decent 6/10 or 7/10 film. We got the superior version of the story realized even if Obi-Wan was largely lame and less prominent outside of the final duel. Setting up Qui-Gon as the affably amoral wise decoy mentor-protagonist who tragically dies before training Anakin was a good choice.
@Spong388Күн бұрын
Cursed as fuck but i cant stop watching it
@UrajiSurafuКүн бұрын
I don't get why everyone is complaining, i think it's pretty neat, and fit nicely with the aesthetic
@ArakkoaChroniclesКүн бұрын
I think Qui-Gonn is actually an improvement in the version we actually got. It makes you care more about Qui-Gonn getting killed (as opposed to someone who just appeared), and we get to know him better. Perhaps Obi-Wan could've been older, like here, still and so would Anakin, but having Qui-Gonn there from the start not only develops both Jedi better, but also lets us bounce more dialogue between them to learn more about the world in a natural way.
@polyman6859Күн бұрын
I agree, Qui-Gon in the final film is my favorite new character we got from the prequels. Having two Jedi at the start enhances the dialogue opportunity and characterization. Qui-Gon was an unorthodox Jedi and he's introduced with Obi-Wan by having him give advice that potentially conflicts with advice from Yoda. This subtly sets up how Qui-Gon bends the rules throughout the film like when he mind tricks the Gungan King, attempts to train Anakin without the council's permission, rigs the bet, and doesn't inform the queen of his risky plan to get off Tattooine. This nice character introduction would be lost without two Jedi in the opening. The Phantom Menace was honestly such a good film to begin with so I don't miss some of these script changes.
@jackowen58222 күн бұрын
8x smoother stop motion looks better than cgi
@6Kubik2 күн бұрын
The illustration of Feyd is messed up. First time we meet him in the book he is 16. He looks like a S/M prostitute for CP. I know his uncle really likes that but I don't want to see it, thanks.
@jackthegreek60922 күн бұрын
I like whatever this Obi Wan is wearing. Adds to the idea that Obi Wan was wearing Tattoine clothing.
@chadlewis40792 күн бұрын
I've read that producers were so excited to get Liam Neeson on the cast that they wanted to give his character more screen time, at the expense of stronger characters.
@dwarfer12 күн бұрын
whats the fascination with more fps to make it more smooth. movies are 24-30fps and are smooth as glass because they incorporate a little recepie in each of the frames our brains have evolved to detect as literal motion called motion blur. with motion blur you can animate at any speed and make it super smooth, non-competitive gamers seek more fps but all they want is smoother graphics between frames which makes it impossible to distinguish individual frames at 24fps let alone 100-140fps. what you should do is import simpsons into a motion blur generator, which effectively what tv manufactures have been working on to make movies even smoother
@StatickyCat2 күн бұрын
Am I the only one who actually thinks this looks nice?
@Realrockruss2 күн бұрын
My brotha don’t ever do this shit again😭😭😭
@seef49663 күн бұрын
It looks worse. Like having motion smoothing on your tv. More frames does not equate to higher quality and I think that's obvious to everyone with eyes.
@dudamara3 күн бұрын
Dathon, coffin on shoulders, men dancing. Jordan, his tears fell.
@GraveUypo3 күн бұрын
the problem isn't the frame rate, it's how jittery the animation is. and that it's a different frame rate to the rest of the aciton. the stop motion is kinda garbage
@tadeuferreira40594 күн бұрын
I would have THIS version of the movie, but with Quigon showing up since the beggining, them we could have the best of both worlds!!!
@gaywizard20004 күн бұрын
And a better script? Awww. I love the mid century dinos tho!
@anon55.circlecity4 күн бұрын
I met Anne during the last time she attended Dragon*Con. I'm glad he held true to Anne's work - I feel he failed to do so with Battlestar. He changed the primary plot point in Battlestar that, in the original series, the Cylons were built/descended from an alien race and they were reacting/over-reacting to contact with humans. I lost interest when it was a rehash of Frankenstein.
@emperorsean14 күн бұрын
And if this had been released prequel haters would've still hated it.
@polyman6859Күн бұрын
On god LMAO. People really just hate Qui-Gon because he's not Obi-Wan/ he "stole" his screentime. They don't even bother to pay attention to how unorthodox or cool Qui-Gon is and write him off as a boring character. Basically its people refusing to engage with the story on its own terms because its not how they envisioned Star Wars.
@troychriscarretas26574 күн бұрын
I like the original
@CovenOfWonders4 күн бұрын
THIS CAME OUT WHEN MY GRANDAD WAS YOUNG HE THOUGHT IT WAS REAL, LOLS
@youngemu39494 күн бұрын
It still looks off. I’d like to see where only the stop motion is increased to match the frame rate from the actual live recordings.
@SpongeBobFan15645 күн бұрын
Mike without arms is just weird 💀
@stanbewick26855 күн бұрын
Can't see that much of an improvement.
@Answeriz425 күн бұрын
Obi wan being more like Qui Gon’s character from the start would have been interesting, him being in his 30s in episode 1 would fit with being in his 60s in episode 4. The dynamic would be much more father and son rather than older and younger brother, and this would completely change how he develops/matures throughout the prequels. This probably would have made his arc of becoming Vader one less of being vulnerable to impulsivity/ emotional manipulation by palpatine and more “rational” like how Count Dooku fell to the dark side.
@LennyNero20195 күн бұрын
And this, ladies and gentlemen, why 'modern' movies suck...
@bekindandrewind14225 күн бұрын
Good morning. I was wondering what editing suite you're using for the upscale ? -- I've watched a few of your videos and am impressed by your method / skill .
@beckerod7775 күн бұрын
I literally can't see any difference.
@matthaeusprime63435 күн бұрын
Qui Gon is my favorite Jedi, so for him to have a smaller role would make the film less interesting. The Phantom Menace is my favorite Star Wars movie so to make most of these changes while fun to imagine would take away the enjoyment I already have with this movie. I've been addicted to Star Wars for 41 years and have enjoyed all of it. From the OT to the EU, PT, ST, doesn't matter to me. Because each piece we get is a glimpse into a universe I can immerse myself into. I don't like it all equally, but, I take the thing I like least about Star Wars over the best any other imagined universe has to offer.
@TruthIsKey3696 күн бұрын
I remember watching this when it came out, it looked good at the time, but now..... It just looks bad in many ways :) regardless, classic!
@chickenpotbiebro2026 күн бұрын
the AI one looks so weird
@franciscopacobarreras92706 күн бұрын
Still prequel hate? After the sequel debacle? George Lucas can fart into a movie screen it’s still a million times better than any shit show Disney can come up with. This idiotic nitpicking of the prequels and treating Lucas like shit is what got us the shit show that is Disney Star Wars. Prequel haters deserve everything they get from Disney.
@Phil-D836 күн бұрын
Crusade and some of the movies sucked. Most of it was ok
@treeduck37057 күн бұрын
King Kong frightens me to this day!
@sorenbaek96267 күн бұрын
I prefer this to all the cgi. You just appreciate the work and effort that went into making it look this good. Same with the animatronics of the 80s like The Thing as an example of one of the best horror movies of all time
@dryais7 күн бұрын
Brilliant!
@TheRealBGregz7 күн бұрын
It just doesn’t work. Mostly because robots of this size would be incapable of moving so fast.
@errikosstamatakis95157 күн бұрын
the original was better because seems more creepy
@peka__8 күн бұрын
The new versions work much better at 0.75 speed.
@ThePachelChannel8 күн бұрын
60fps dont look natural
@SaviorPrime20249 күн бұрын
You've upscaled a video originally shot in FHD? Unsuccessful attempt... If you manage to upscale the first episode and achieve this quality, then you will have my admiration.
@Chillton9 күн бұрын
The whole charm is in 24fps.
@LeslieMilligan9 күн бұрын
I hope they bring out a full film version, 8x makes a meaningful improvement to a classic that deserves love and attention.
@sundance732810 күн бұрын
Both look fine. Obviously being similar we prefer the version we are used to. That said, I actually lik ethe way the used version differs from \enterprise. It differentiates the two opponents. Awesome film. And well done to CaptRobau for making this edited version. Lays the matter to bed for me.
@user-sr6gc9ip5h10 күн бұрын
wow nice ! It's my fav ST serie ^^
@lolglolblol10 күн бұрын
I still don't get why people hate Midichlorians this much
@polyman6859Күн бұрын
Because idiots think it retcons the force to be a scientific blood thing when we already knew it was familial from Episode 6. Basically because they misunderstood them.
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Stop Motion is pure State of Art.
I thought they were playing a game of chess
Honestly, the only thing that takes away from the reality of the puppets is how King Kong’s fur randomly changes its shape between frames. It’s like you can tell what the animators touched even when the appendages haven’t changed in some frames.
Honestly? This doesn't sound objectively better than the Episode 1 we got. George Lucas largely made the right call in altering most ideas on this script. His credit is long past overdue. Obi-Wan in the final script is pretty much irrelevant as an individual outside the final duel. Obi-Wan's characterization is also generally unlikable in the final film as he calls Anakin a dumbass after he saved everyone by winning the race for no reason. He basically only respects those with authority over him like the Queen, his master, and the council. Those with no authority over him get disrespected like Anakin and Jar Jar. While I'm unhappy with Obi-Wan in episode 1 I don't think this prototype script does him justice just because he got the protagonist role that Qui-Gon did. *Really the only reason to list this as a positive for Obi-Wan is because people wanted him as the lead over Qui-Gon because the former was a beloved preestablished character.* We know Obi-Wan as a noble and honorable knight that was trusted by Yoda in the OT so having him be written with Qui-Gon's occasionally amoral rule bending defiance wouldn't make sense. The Queen doesn't want to trust Qui-Gon. The council doesn't trust Qui-Gon before or even after he dies because they begin to think the prophecy was misread in Episode 3. Point is Qui-Gon's traits would fundamentally clash with how we know Obi-Wan from the OT. Qui-Gon isn't young, arrogant, or impatient as Obi-Wan says he was in episode 5. Anakin is still a child at 12 years old so idk why you claimed he wasn't at the end. Anakin and Padme aren't even weird in the final script for episode 1 because there is no mutual romantic tension between them. The age gap isn't a problem because nothing happened beyond Padme being the only person to comfort Anakin after separating from his mother. The romance story doesn't occur until episode 2. I'd argue Anakin being younger in the final script makes him inherently more vulnerable to the wound caused by the separation of his mother, yknow, the start of his important character flaw of not being able to let go? Giving the leading role to Qui-Gon was the smart choice as his death in the original script carries less impact thanks to his characterization not being a bigger focus. His complete absence from the first act also harms this. Qui-Gon in the final script is an unorthodox Jedi while we've always known Obi-Wan to be a conventional paragon. Having a paragon commit somewhat amoral acts that Qui-Gon does in the film would clash, naturally I'm glad those cool traits were given to another character. You can also debate how it would be boring if the strong and wise Kenobi from the OT just... already started strong and wise in Episode 1 but that's an opinion. Here is something mind-blowing, Maul doesn't magically improve just by having more dialogue and screentime. His role, actions, and beliefs are the exact same in the final film because he was always just a tool/extension for his master. This different understanding of Maul in the beta script fundamentally changes nothing in the story. The Maul we got in the film was straightforward and effective, an ever-glaring monster to be afraid/wary of. The more you know about a monster, the less you'll fear it. Maul is nowhere near as scary in TCW as he was in Episode 1 because of all the juicy layers that were added to him after resurrection. There is a time for layered villains like Dooku and there is a time for simple pure evil like Maul. You can argue that one of his prototype designs were more scary than the final design, but the final design mixes in more badass elements that effectively communicate what the character is meant to be. I argue George made the right choice in trimming the fat here with Maul unlike his choice to delete several scenes that expanded Dooku's characterization and role among the Separatists in Episode 2. If I wanted to be REALLY petty I can dismiss prototype Maul for lacking the double bladed saber *alone* but I am trying to be sincere lol. The absence of midichlorians is also not a benefit lol. They don't harm anything and are elaborated on in a meaningful way for Revenge of the Sith with Darth Plagueis. I'll be fair and address the positives the prototype has over the final script. The aliens (Gungans) speaking normally is boring but Jar Jar being less over the top would be welcome. Perhaps it would offer a less effective foil to the Jedi in theory if he's just a normal innocent but I'll entertain that idea since Jar Jar is very excessive in the final story. Seeing Chancellor Valorum outside the senate interacting with Palpatine could expand upon his charming manipulative tactics in a small was even if its not the focus of that scene. Valorum is the person who sends the Jedi to investigate in the first place so elaborating on his agency would benefit the story in a small but substantial way. Overall? The final script was largely better than this prototype script. George Lucas mostly knew what he was doing and made the right call. The Phantom Menace was a decent 6/10 or 7/10 film. We got the superior version of the story realized even if Obi-Wan was largely lame and less prominent outside of the final duel. Setting up Qui-Gon as the affably amoral wise decoy mentor-protagonist who tragically dies before training Anakin was a good choice.
Cursed as fuck but i cant stop watching it
I don't get why everyone is complaining, i think it's pretty neat, and fit nicely with the aesthetic
I think Qui-Gonn is actually an improvement in the version we actually got. It makes you care more about Qui-Gonn getting killed (as opposed to someone who just appeared), and we get to know him better. Perhaps Obi-Wan could've been older, like here, still and so would Anakin, but having Qui-Gonn there from the start not only develops both Jedi better, but also lets us bounce more dialogue between them to learn more about the world in a natural way.
I agree, Qui-Gon in the final film is my favorite new character we got from the prequels. Having two Jedi at the start enhances the dialogue opportunity and characterization. Qui-Gon was an unorthodox Jedi and he's introduced with Obi-Wan by having him give advice that potentially conflicts with advice from Yoda. This subtly sets up how Qui-Gon bends the rules throughout the film like when he mind tricks the Gungan King, attempts to train Anakin without the council's permission, rigs the bet, and doesn't inform the queen of his risky plan to get off Tattooine. This nice character introduction would be lost without two Jedi in the opening. The Phantom Menace was honestly such a good film to begin with so I don't miss some of these script changes.
8x smoother stop motion looks better than cgi
The illustration of Feyd is messed up. First time we meet him in the book he is 16. He looks like a S/M prostitute for CP. I know his uncle really likes that but I don't want to see it, thanks.
I like whatever this Obi Wan is wearing. Adds to the idea that Obi Wan was wearing Tattoine clothing.
I've read that producers were so excited to get Liam Neeson on the cast that they wanted to give his character more screen time, at the expense of stronger characters.
whats the fascination with more fps to make it more smooth. movies are 24-30fps and are smooth as glass because they incorporate a little recepie in each of the frames our brains have evolved to detect as literal motion called motion blur. with motion blur you can animate at any speed and make it super smooth, non-competitive gamers seek more fps but all they want is smoother graphics between frames which makes it impossible to distinguish individual frames at 24fps let alone 100-140fps. what you should do is import simpsons into a motion blur generator, which effectively what tv manufactures have been working on to make movies even smoother
Am I the only one who actually thinks this looks nice?
My brotha don’t ever do this shit again😭😭😭
It looks worse. Like having motion smoothing on your tv. More frames does not equate to higher quality and I think that's obvious to everyone with eyes.
Dathon, coffin on shoulders, men dancing. Jordan, his tears fell.
the problem isn't the frame rate, it's how jittery the animation is. and that it's a different frame rate to the rest of the aciton. the stop motion is kinda garbage
I would have THIS version of the movie, but with Quigon showing up since the beggining, them we could have the best of both worlds!!!
And a better script? Awww. I love the mid century dinos tho!
I met Anne during the last time she attended Dragon*Con. I'm glad he held true to Anne's work - I feel he failed to do so with Battlestar. He changed the primary plot point in Battlestar that, in the original series, the Cylons were built/descended from an alien race and they were reacting/over-reacting to contact with humans. I lost interest when it was a rehash of Frankenstein.
And if this had been released prequel haters would've still hated it.
On god LMAO. People really just hate Qui-Gon because he's not Obi-Wan/ he "stole" his screentime. They don't even bother to pay attention to how unorthodox or cool Qui-Gon is and write him off as a boring character. Basically its people refusing to engage with the story on its own terms because its not how they envisioned Star Wars.
I like the original
THIS CAME OUT WHEN MY GRANDAD WAS YOUNG HE THOUGHT IT WAS REAL, LOLS
It still looks off. I’d like to see where only the stop motion is increased to match the frame rate from the actual live recordings.
Mike without arms is just weird 💀
Can't see that much of an improvement.
Obi wan being more like Qui Gon’s character from the start would have been interesting, him being in his 30s in episode 1 would fit with being in his 60s in episode 4. The dynamic would be much more father and son rather than older and younger brother, and this would completely change how he develops/matures throughout the prequels. This probably would have made his arc of becoming Vader one less of being vulnerable to impulsivity/ emotional manipulation by palpatine and more “rational” like how Count Dooku fell to the dark side.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, why 'modern' movies suck...
Good morning. I was wondering what editing suite you're using for the upscale ? -- I've watched a few of your videos and am impressed by your method / skill .
I literally can't see any difference.
Qui Gon is my favorite Jedi, so for him to have a smaller role would make the film less interesting. The Phantom Menace is my favorite Star Wars movie so to make most of these changes while fun to imagine would take away the enjoyment I already have with this movie. I've been addicted to Star Wars for 41 years and have enjoyed all of it. From the OT to the EU, PT, ST, doesn't matter to me. Because each piece we get is a glimpse into a universe I can immerse myself into. I don't like it all equally, but, I take the thing I like least about Star Wars over the best any other imagined universe has to offer.
I remember watching this when it came out, it looked good at the time, but now..... It just looks bad in many ways :) regardless, classic!
the AI one looks so weird
Still prequel hate? After the sequel debacle? George Lucas can fart into a movie screen it’s still a million times better than any shit show Disney can come up with. This idiotic nitpicking of the prequels and treating Lucas like shit is what got us the shit show that is Disney Star Wars. Prequel haters deserve everything they get from Disney.
Crusade and some of the movies sucked. Most of it was ok
King Kong frightens me to this day!
I prefer this to all the cgi. You just appreciate the work and effort that went into making it look this good. Same with the animatronics of the 80s like The Thing as an example of one of the best horror movies of all time
Brilliant!
It just doesn’t work. Mostly because robots of this size would be incapable of moving so fast.
the original was better because seems more creepy
The new versions work much better at 0.75 speed.
60fps dont look natural
You've upscaled a video originally shot in FHD? Unsuccessful attempt... If you manage to upscale the first episode and achieve this quality, then you will have my admiration.
The whole charm is in 24fps.
I hope they bring out a full film version, 8x makes a meaningful improvement to a classic that deserves love and attention.
Both look fine. Obviously being similar we prefer the version we are used to. That said, I actually lik ethe way the used version differs from \enterprise. It differentiates the two opponents. Awesome film. And well done to CaptRobau for making this edited version. Lays the matter to bed for me.
wow nice ! It's my fav ST serie ^^
I still don't get why people hate Midichlorians this much
Because idiots think it retcons the force to be a scientific blood thing when we already knew it was familial from Episode 6. Basically because they misunderstood them.
RIP Ray Harryhausen 1920-2013
It looks equally janky but smooth