Babylon 5 is still one of the best sifi series. Greatly under rated.

I just watched the first 4 seasons and I have determined it is the BEST sci-fi show ever made. This move looks like it would have been very good. It would have used a lot of the plot devices from the whole series to accomplish its end.

@Bushprowler

Жыл бұрын

Close second to B5 is Farscape for me. It's completely different but unique nonetheless.

@MervynPartin

4 ай бұрын

After watching our DVDs several times, we now have the re-mastered Blu-ray box set and the quality is excellent.

From my understanding, this was the secondary B5 movie proposal. Originally, JMS promised he could deliver a damn fine B5 movie for $35 million and the focus, which he had so carefully carved out, was to be the Telepath War. B5 ends with that war looming in the future and Crusade picks up in the aftermath. We did get a look at the destruction of Psi Corps in Crusade but originally it was intended that Lyta was herself a human bomb and the war ended when she detonated herself fighting alongside Lennier. In Crusade, it was inexplicably changed to a random telepath prisoner who was wired to blow herself up. Then again, the “Telepath War” might not have referred to the Internal struggle and Lyta’s final act of destruction but rather to Bester’s attack on Earth after coming out of hiding in 2267 in the unfilmed script Value Judgments. Either way, we got screwed.

@CaptRobau

2 жыл бұрын

According to my source, The Telepath War was indeed the first movie concept. Another movie idea followed, just called B5: The Motion Picture, but wasn't as fully formed. The third, and the one that got the farthest into production, was this one. I might do a video about the earlier attempts in the future.

@sdfried4877

2 жыл бұрын

@@CaptRobau I have to admit, I wasn’t particularly enthused about The Memory of Shadows. It just seemed like the train had left the station, cast members were dropping like flies and we weren’t getting the canonical story we were promised. And despite there being “a door in London with Babylon 5 on it” most of us were skeptical it would ever get made. Fast forward 20 years to JMS: Babylon 5 is coming back on the CW! We must love the abuse.

@danielhenderson8316

2 жыл бұрын

It got changed in Crusade because Patricia Tallman was unavailable for that day.

@sdfried4877

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielhenderson8316 Yeah, but you’re talking about changing the planned death of a legacy character because of a scheduling conflict?

@CookyMonzta

Жыл бұрын

​@sdfried So much the better. That opened the door for alternatives to Lyta's impending fate. But then again, it would not have made any sense for a telepath so incredibly powerful as her, a walking nuke, to somehow end up in a position as bizarre as a prison cell. I would have loved to see how Vir and his resistance drove the Drakh from Centauri Prime, even if they blew up everything they left behind. Unfortunately, Stephen Furst (Vir) and Andreas Katsulas (G'Kar) are no longer with us. Way too many from B5's top shelf have died young.

I feel like the show is so character focused and driven ... that having the story revolving around a totally new charactere, with all our favorites that we are so attached to, relegated to background support roles ... I don't know ... it would have been COOL to see a B5 movie sure ... but I don't know how much it would have felt "right" to the fans.

@NickMichalak

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it still sounds like another TV movie. Doesn't seem to have had either the scope to be largely cinematic or more deeply personal for our core characters to be resonant enough for a big screen adventure.

@jebise1126

4 ай бұрын

yes and no. B5 was written as 5 seasons from start so you dont get some weird shit start happening out of the blue. of course actors are really great but its not just about actors.

Wow, I'm a big fan and never heard any of the details about this before. Thank you! Honestly, the plot reminds me of most of the TV movies they did with TNT --- underwhelming. But would have liked to have seen it happen. Optimistic about the reboot series -- I hope it does happen, but only if it's close to the quality of the writing of the original series.

At the beginning of each episode, you saw a ship load of people coming aboard B5. I always hoped to see Duncan MacLeod among the group of travelers.

Any project with Gillian Anderson is worth seeing!

Thanks for gathering this information together, and to you, Rich and Tom for the effort to put it together for us to see.

If only it could have been made. B5 was not just the best Sci-Fi series ever for its story lines, but the choice of actors and the characters that they played was superb. Warner brothers tried inserting their own choices (like Keffler) before and JMS wisely side lined them. Gillian Anderson would be a brilliant addition- I've seen her in several tv dramas and in live stage performances. Peter Woodward was a great character (Galen) in Crusade, as was his father, Edward. It was a real shame that series was cancelled. Without the sadly lost cast who made B5 what it was, it would be almost impossible to make the move now.

Even though, as you claim, this was the last major attempt to keep B5 going, I'm happy we at least got the "babylon 5: The Lost Tales" in 2007. While it was not great, it was nice to see some of the characters and visit the B5 universe once more. The Lost Tales 2 was never made, which JMS announced in 2008, since the studio was not willing to increase the budget and he did not want to "dilute" the B5 legacy with sub-par stories. I respect that artistical decision to not want to drag B5 down, but keep the good memories of the show alive. I had never heard of this story before, but it does sound interesting. Going after destroying shadow technology, while some forces on Earth still trying to aquire such technology. Would have made for a good movie or even series. Follwing up on the aftermath of one of the biggest events in the known universe history.

Любимое шоу моей юности! Великолепные истории и запоминающиеся актеры! Обожаю всех персонажей, особенно Лондо и Гкар. Будущий ребут, если он случится, лично для меня уже не сможет превзойти оригинал! Спасибо Майклу Стражински! Светлая память покинувшим нас актерам и долголетия тем кто еще среди нас!

Thanks for this! Really interesting and I like the way you put it together visually, using Tom's treatments too. For myself as a recent B5 fan and a long-time X-Files fan, your imagining of how this film might have looked is really fun to think about. Looking forward also to the B5 reboot. I'm excited!

@CaptRobau

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Perfect for this role would have been Gillian Anderson, as she has experience playing an FBI agent. She could have put that experience to good use playing an agent of Earth Force Intelligence.

Sounds intriguing, with elements of the Techno-mage trilogy of books. In those it's revealed that the Techno-mages use shadow-tech....

Every now and then I've thought about a Star Trek and X-Files crossover. Mulder and Scully disappear without a trace during an investigation and end up through an invisible rift in time in the 24th century, ending up on either Earth or the Enterprise D. Based on their skills, they decide to work for Starfleet Intelligence. Still, both have to go through Starfleet Academy. Which is much more difficult for Scully because she practically has to go back to medical school at Starfleet Medical Academy and also has to learn the anatomy of one of the main races of the Federation. It's also understandable, she has a lot of catching up to do on how to treat diseases, what medications there are and how to use the laser scalpel and the medical tricorder. But what both of them need to get used to is that there are so many humanoid extraterrestrials because they were only used to the extraterrestrials from the X-Files.

@SiXiam

Жыл бұрын

Did you see the Crusade episode that had a Mulder Scully like characters? It was really dumb, but similar to what you mean.

@markbucher50

Жыл бұрын

@@SiXiam Visitors Down the Street. I didn’t take it as dumb so much as Crusade was going to be more of a playground for writers doing new things even if it’s ridiculous and super weird. Probably would’ve been more Outer Limits premise based standalone stuff like Now for Word and Deconstruction of Falling Stars etc… I think JMS said Crusade was going to be about drama arcs first and the world arcs would be serving that end instead of the reverse like in B5…Im assuming that would mean more room for stuff like A View from the Gallery… The little bit we got maybe was corny and bizarre due to sabotage but it definitely wasn’t what the other shows were doing, whatever it was!

Ah.. so this was the infamous synopsis of the film that never came to be. Thanks again for sharing this information.

@CaptRobau

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

it was recently told that an executive at WB cancelled any B5 series or films because he did not like B5. he is not there now and B5 the road home has been made and there are reboots happening.

Sounds cool, I need more Babylon 5.

I imagine a movie would have gotten similar audience numbers as something like Serenity (of the Firefly series) or even that X-Files movie. Probably not a big enough fanbase unfortunately.

Thank you for doing this! Had the film been made with the original cast reprising their roles, I think it would have been good. That said, I have concerns about shoehorning Sheridan, Delenn, Londo, and G'Kar into the movie seeming just so they could be there, and not because there was a substantial purpose for them. Or so it seems from the synopses I've read.

@dennismoon6693

3 ай бұрын

I think that given their roles, it would have been plausible for Sheridan and Delenn to be involved, at least given the premise of them coming to aid in negotiations. G'kar and Londo, not so much. At this point, G'kar was off exploring the galaxy; even setting aside the fact that he had effectively severed all ties with being a representative of Narn, how would they have gotten in touch with him? Considering the recent conduct of the Centauri Republic, how eager would the other races have been to include them as part of the negotiations? Although being compromised by Shadow tech himself might have made for some interesting developments as that aspect of the plot developed.

I almost didn't click because I was afraid you were going to tell me about some B5/X Files crossover project. Though I guess it could make more sense than when someone decided to do a Sleepy Hollow/Bones crossover .

1. The story of this "detective story in space" movie would have been uninteresting after the "intergalactic war through time and space" story of Babylon 5. Only a Babylon 4 story (in a series format) with Valen and the first Shadow War could have been as successful as B5 (and only if JMS again takes his time to write the outline properly for the entire series before shooting anything, just like he did with B5). 2. There's not enough time to get emotionally as close to the main characters as we had during B5 3. With so many B5 characters back it would have been next to impossible to actually care for Diane or anyone else new. Less is more (remember the reaction to Luke Skywalker's - and only his - return scene in the Mandalorian). JMS should have asked himself "what actually made B5 so successful?" and replicate that success based on the answer. My guess (as someone who LOVED Babylon 5 as a kid) is the vast universe of the story, the well placed and planned mysteries that eventually get explained in ways we didn't imagine, the overall story inspired by real historical events and the endless wisdom which a lot of characters possess.

i really hope the green screen footage from the movies and series somehow come out i feel like the fanbase can come together and remaster the fuck out of everythingi would die to recolor grade and key those

Glad we have whatever this completed project he is talking about. I wonder if its this film or a version of it?

Babylon 5 is even more relevant today.

Tom Cruise as Sheridan Catherine Zeta-Jones as Ivanova, Salma Hayek as Delenn, Martin Lawrence as Dr. Stephen Franklin, and Mark Wahlberg as Gkar. What could go wrong?

@bobfish7699

Жыл бұрын

😧😧😧I pray you never get employed as the casting director...😉🤣 I can't think of actors who are more polar opposite to the characters. So you nailed it!!

@johngallagher912

Жыл бұрын

@@bobfish7699 I was being sarcastic but if Hollywood produced it...

@JohnFourtyTwo

Жыл бұрын

@@bobfish7699Actors are hired for their acting ability to act in any capacity, not how they are in real life.🙄

WOW!

I don't have a lot of hope for any kind of revival for this series since at least over half the original cast has passed.

The plot sounds like a Crusade made for TV movie, more than a theatrical B5 movie. I'm a huge B5 fan, and as much as I would loved to have seen a theatrical release, I can't get passed the fact that the essential elements of a B5 movie should be based around B5 itself, and I can't see how this would have had enough scale to pull in enough of a new audience to make it financially viable in the cinema. If B5 is the title, you can't just use it as an interesting place to visit for a few scenes. and that's the problem. B5 is either the focus, but there not enough scale, or B5 is somewhere to visit, so it's not really a B5 movie at all. Of course JMS is an awesome writer so he may have pulled it off...

@Sorain1

6 ай бұрын

I would assume that one of the four warring races was the one selling shadow tech, or that all sides had bought some and thus it threatened to become a bad case of 'war in heaven in miniature' thus tying the two parts of the plot together properly with a shared thematic element.

As tv shows go, this one was great. If you don't think so... You don't get it. I want to see this movie.

THIS is what was supposed to happen with Crusade past the first season and a half. 😭

I would like to see it made

I think an interesting story would be whatever happened to G'Kar and Lyta Alexander. Did she keep her promise to remove the block that prevented him harming Mr. Bester? Because he totally disserved that bit of revenge. I hope he ended somewhat like Lord Refa ended. The rock cried out, "No hiding place down here"

@lucasbachmann

Жыл бұрын

Per the Telepath Trilogy novel Bester died of old age in a prison cell on the same day Sheridan was announced to have disappeared and was believed dead. (as I recall). Bester was also going to be in a Crusade episode that Walter Koenig was even paid for where the Excalibur accidentally crosses paths with him on the the run. Garibaldi did bankroll a lot of the telepath war rebellion.

@scottperry7311

Жыл бұрын

It was not G'Kar, it was Garibaldi who had the block that prevented him from harming Mr. Bester. There is a resolution to this plot line, it was in the novelizations of Babylon 5 produced after the series ended, which was done in a trilogy on the Earth Telepaths that goes heavily into Besters life and how his story goes with Garibaldi. There are also trilogies on the Centari, with Mollari and Vir under the Drake, and the Techno Mages with Galen being the main character. I highly recommend these books, they are very good, especially if you are a fan of Babylon 5, then they are great. The best trilogy in my opinion is the one about Galen, there is some really cool stuff in those books and I think is incredible good and ingenious.

@erictaylor5462

Жыл бұрын

@@scottperry7311 I didn't say it was G'kar

Just saw your video on the B5 movie that never was..il.never knew anything about this and would have loved to have seen it. But without the original actors it wouldn't have been the same. So probably best it didn't happen. After all no one else in the world could have played Londo Mollari like Peter Jurasik....the greatest sy.fy Character in TV history.

The studio wanted Brad Pitt as President Sheridan, Angelina Jolie as Lockely, Jim Carrey as Londo, Bruce Willis as Garabaldi, and...lol I can't think of anything more absurd.

Great job! Are you also dutch? Have a great day!

@CaptRobau

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I am! Jij ook een fijne dag :D

@mayra3277

Жыл бұрын

Het lijkt als of B5 een groote fandom in Nederland heeft! :) (excuse my Dutch, still learning)

There was attempt make another B5 spinoff based upon episode about Techno-magi. I don't call title, but tagline " Who do you Trust?" There were few episodes made before abruptly canceled.

@brianwhedon8442

Жыл бұрын

That was Crusade. The lines in their opening credits were "Who are you? What do you want? Whom do you serve, and who do you trust?"

Wish it had been made. Also crusade series2

This should have been finished and released. I have everything of b5 and crusade, and consider it as one of the best and most important things ever shown on tv, I have 3 DVD box sets and even video and on a hard drive I have spent this life in a quest? For enlightenment and found that it has been a beneficial influence in this regard. One of the box sets is a full version of the series and the film’s and crusade, and I even have all 5 series in separate box sets. It’s more beneficial and important than Star Trek or football!! And I hope one day it will be valued for it’s true worth. I have no illusion that it’s more or less than it is yet it has such depth and helpful in any who may wish to raise their own awareness especially certain episodes that contain other ways of seeing the self. Like Lorien being able to appear in relative human form while the more true self is conscious light and the different ways of perception and evolution of reawakening of self awareness and realisation This is one of the best things I’ve seen on tv that helps on the path of enlightenment Sleeping in light Or being light!! Namasté

It was titled Babylon 5 The Wrath of Scully

2:29 Wait, would this have convinced Agent Scully the truth is out there? 😝

In the EU it was a big show

@Thurgosh_OG

Жыл бұрын

Expanded Universe? or are you talking about the so called trading block made up of 27 of the 44 nations of Europe. B5 is still huge in the UK, which is part of Eurpoe.

@ventusprime

Жыл бұрын

@@Thurgosh_OG Hungary, Solvakia, Romania,

@mayra3277

Жыл бұрын

It's still on somewhat regularly on German TV!

Fans of the series would not have liked major characters being recast.

This film would have bombed hard. It sounds like another television film.

I think a lot of the reason for the other shows not working is the music. The music was amazing but he lost the director

I liked this series much better than Deep Space 9, Voyager, and Enterprise ! I seem to remember that the CW was supposedly working on a reboot 🤔 of this series Or has that idea been scrapped too ? Oh well, we shall see what happens. It is sad that most of the actors and actresses who played the original cast have passed 😔 away 😢 ! This fact will make it to replace them.

Where can I find this script? Knowing JMS he probably keeps it locked up.

I think it would have been a great show

I’m sorry my spin off show didn’t out compete one of the most popular football events.

Wasn't there an earlier draft of this script that co-starred Biggs?

@brianwhedon8442

Жыл бұрын

I believe the loss of Richard Biggs in early 2004 was significant because he and all the cast were hyped up for doing the movie. So yes, the original script had everyone in it

@mahatmarandy5977

Жыл бұрын

@@brianwhedon8442 I was unaware of that. To be honest, my memories are vague. I remember - or think I remember - Dr. Franklin and some new character showing up to expose/shut down illegal shadowtech research/sales, and then I think Galen was going to be in it or something, but I'm not sure. I had no idea that pretty much everyone was gonna be there. Man, I'd love to read that script. Pretty much any version of it.

@brianwhedon8442

Жыл бұрын

@@mahatmarandy5977 yeah everyone was still showing at cons together alongside JMS. The late 90s and early 2000s were great for the B5 cast. The loss of Richard hit everyone hard.

@mahatmarandy5977

Жыл бұрын

@@brianwhedon8442 You mean Richard, right? Anyway, yeah, it was awful.

@zacharyjochumsen9677

8 ай бұрын

​@@mahatmarandy5977and RIP Mia furlan as wel a lth poet ofvpropn on bdyon 5 sho are dead now

Chances are if they recast the actors I would of given it a miss.

The CGI Babylon 5 is spectacular. See what happens when you don't have to use Commodore Amigas to render your special effects.

I think it should have been made because it would have answered some questions.

Why a new race of aliens, we already have the Drakh as the new shadows just use them.

@brianwhedon8442

Жыл бұрын

This was to be another former Shadow Servant race. And from what others have said online, this new race would've been revealed to serving the Drakh directly

It could gave been a great film I think.

6 mftv movies? When were they shown? I sure never saw 'em in the Minneapolis/St. Paul market.

@lucasbachmann

Жыл бұрын

If they count The Gathering pilot PTEN syndication. On TNT cable channel after Season 4 - In the Beginning, 3rd space, River of Souls. A call to Arms (Crusade prequel). Scifi Channel - Legend of the Rangers failed garbage pilot.

@kurtsnyder4752

Жыл бұрын

@@lucasbachmann Ah, on cable. Had it but could never see it as that would have involved digging down to the line, jacking into the cable,.... then getting arrested for damaging the line and interrupting other peoples' programming,.....going to jail, .... ,etc and I wouldn't have done it anyway.

@lucasbachmann

Жыл бұрын

@@kurtsnyder4752 well there's always the discount bin at a half price books. Or youtube reaction videos. In the Beginning is important to see. If it were any length it would be worth watching. A Call to Arms is important for setting up Crusade and is right sized at 2 hours. River of Souls is an hour episode dragged out 2 hours. Thirdspace is a half hour story with zero impact dragged out over 2 hours. Legend of the Rangers is pretending to be a story dragged out over two hours. But for a laugh - track down the space fight scene from that and imagine characters saying "We die for the one" every 5 minutes.

JMS is attempting to get a hard B5 reboot up and running, not sure what I feel about this. They struck near perfection with the casting, can they do it again? Anyone else attempting it, I would say hell no, but JMS may just pull it off.

@dennismoon6693

3 ай бұрын

I'm not sure if it's still in the works, but I got the sense that JMS was viewing it as a way of correcting what he came to see as flaws in the original - pacing of the overall story arc, compromises on sets imposed by budget, etc; if you have access to them, listen to his commentary on some of the episodes, he's kind of hard on himself. Considering some of the plot threads and themes in the original and our current political environment, on the one hand the show does have some messages that need to be heard, but on the other, I have to wonder if it will be able to survive the backlash from people who are way too easily offended.

what would of made for a better movie series is based on the first great war the emergence of babylon 4 that helped with the war against the shadows after the main base of operations was lost , its a shame the memory of shadows never got filmed but what i did not like is the proposal of recast of the characters in my mind that disrespects the fans i mean whats wrong with using the actors from the show they were amazing in the role

Bb5 brilliant

WB screws up. What a surprise. It's not like they do that much, is it?

Best good guy ship ever... the ENTERPRISE. Best bad guy ship ever... SHADOW VESSELS.

@Harldin

Жыл бұрын

Na, Galactica and Shadow Vessels.

@stuartmazzeo2516

Жыл бұрын

@@Harldin Truth be known, my spaceship is better than all the rest.

What a shame the movie didn't get made.

Babylon 5 had six seasons, if you count that disjointed _Crusade_ mess which followed season 5. It saddened me ... I wanted more B5, of course, but I could see they were just putting ad hoc junk episodes on TV to ride the money grab while popularity and ratings could be milked. I think it would have been better if the series had ended gracefully once the core narrative was completed. Dragging it through the muck with a bolt-on season of uninspired mediocrity just tarnished everything.

Babylon 5 is the best space opera in the history of science fiction.

Sounds like it'd have been great, but probably a commercial failure as it'd be a movie you'd need to see 5 seasons of TV to understand.

I have to come down on the side of Warner Bros here; I'm a huge B5 fanatic, but only because of the writing. The cast has always been atrocious; not a single one of them approaches the emotional range of Kristen Stewart, the convincing delivery of Carrot Top, or the confident, disarmingly natural demeanor of Hayden Christensen. There's no way this movie would've made any money, regardless of how much the budget was cut down.

It is too bad Babylon 5 seem to always have a turbulent existence. 😐

Warner bros suck, they let the series die, wanting big names would have just made the show different for no reason and would have alienated the fans. Im sad that that there was never a video game, a Babylon 5 based space rpg like mass effect would have been amazing, as well as the cancelled space sim. Unbelievable how many now have passed on, now they literally have to recast, and the new series is still up in the air.

God I hope they don't ruin my favorite Show with the reboot please god please

@Harldin

Жыл бұрын

I am cautiously optimistic about a possible reboot, for one reason, JMS is the one doing it.

stopped listening at "captain lockley"...... now I'm glad it didn't happen.

Captrobau didvyounever seen bsbylon 5 lost talex s ever

As much as I love B5, I don't think this would have done well. It was too niche of a show.

*_WARNER BROS_* has an AMAZING ABILITY for making BAD DECISIONS...🤦‍♂️

There should have been a saturday morning cartoon series for the kids called " Bearbalon-5 ".

B5 Crusade was ok, Legend of the Rangers was crap.

@Harldin

Жыл бұрын

Not into Kung Fu weapons firing🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, the dumbest, idiotic, stupidest decision ever made on a TV show. A Ranger series could have worked, with decent writing, the right cast, good CGI, but that 2 hour abomination killed the whole idea stone dead.

Leave it to the studio execs to ruin any chance of this ever being made - I think that there is a DELIBERATE ATTEMPT to make sure that B 5 never returns to the screen.......

Using Gillian Anderson as clickbait?! 👎

@Thurgosh_OG

Жыл бұрын

Did it work for you?

@brianwhedon8442

Жыл бұрын

No really clickbait. It was mentioned years ago, after the movie was shelved, that she was one of a handful of established "scifi" actresses JMS wanted for the role.

No, this movie makes no sense. They should’ve made the Telepath Wars movie instead to tie up the loose ends at the end of the series that got further unraveled in Crusade.

As always, businessmen got into creativity and fucked up everything.

18 wins. 26 nominations. Tell me this show sucked.

The story is weak and it would have flopped. Filming of one of the book trilogies would have been way more interesting, especially the Techno Mage trilogy which I thought was brilliant, huge background story of Galen involving the Shadows and the Techno Mage relationship with them and Galen's tragic love story. The teep war would also have been way more interesting than this story.

I don't think this movie would've worked out. It would've been a great episode, but not feature

Don't care about the reboot. Why not give the original series the remastering it deserves and continue what's already been started with a new series? I'm just glad they never rebooted the original Star Trek.

@Bushprowler

Жыл бұрын

They literally rebooted the original Star Trek.

Crusader should never had happened, bad plot, bad acting. It was nothing more that a cash grab for studio execs.

@NightHawke

Жыл бұрын

If it had been a cash grab, they wouldn't have canceled it before even one episode aired.

@DanielMartinez-lz3ot

Жыл бұрын

@@NightHawke How about "it was an attempt at a a cash grab." Feel better? i think that the main point was that it sucked.

@MrBottlecapBill

Жыл бұрын

It had a couple of good episodes. I mean the first season of B5 wasn't a hail mary either. A LOT of people hated it until it picked up a long way though.

@QuercusRobur44

Жыл бұрын

The plot wasn't great but wasn't supposed to be the premise of the whole series - it was (according to JMS) a hook that would be resolved halfway through season 2. The acting wasn't bad, but the setting meant heavier reliance on CGI and that really didn't help it. There is a nugget of great characterisation and potential in that first half of the first season - sure it might have sucked but equally it might have become a lot better (as Babylon 5 itself did).

@DanielMartinez-lz3ot

Жыл бұрын

We will never know. Maybe you are right, but I don't think so. The problem I have is that you and one of the other commenters proclaim that B5 started out bad but got better and that's not true, S.1 E.1 hooked you right away, we wanted to know why the Narns attacked the Centauri and who the raiders were, there was mystery. With Crusader we knew everything, it was "Lost in space" done in a boring and lazy manner by lazy studio execs and writers with either little input or little imagination, trying desperately to replace a great story that brought them tons of money. They failed.

The original show was fine as it was. I won't watch the remake.

Crusade and some of the movies sucked. Most of it was ok

Too many plot holes if you look at the whole already produced B5 Universe. . And I predict the reboot will suck balls.

It wouldn't have been successful unfortunately.

There's a reason why Crusade and Legend of the Rangers were cancelled - they SUCKED. Just like most of the TV movies. B5 was lightening in a bottle. After season 4, JMS was burnt out and it showed. His next attempt, in which he had full creative control, Lost Tails in 2007, was also awful. JMS blamed the budget and weak DVD sales but the writing was just bad. So even if this movie has gone into production, it would most likely have been mediocre at best.

i belive babylon 5 needs a remake with updated visuals.. but not now because of the whole woke stuff and other things. they are not capable of creating a good series let alone a good remake!

crusade sucked. LOTR SUCKED.

@Thurgosh_OG

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure you mean ROP and not LOTR.