How do they couple or uncouple rotary coupler? Any video?
@searbhreathach976210 ай бұрын
Ah yes, rotary ends are fun when you accidentally mix them up.
@CouchToBike9 ай бұрын
I always like when they shop up still turned 90 degrees.
@searbhreathach97629 ай бұрын
@@CouchToBike Hmm I think that means the coupler pins are worn a fck ton or maybe the yoke 😂
@ducky_the_helper11 ай бұрын
They should get more modern streamlined hoppers like they have in Australian
@JijiHealy3 жыл бұрын
I like a place like that. It’s a quite and far from neighbor
@Mr.Frost1814 жыл бұрын
facebook.com/groups/1173365756036596/ join the group call "Monte Carlo Ridaz" we accept all years an generations just click the link ☝🏾at the top an will take you straight there
@kurisu78855 жыл бұрын
I saw a miniature one of these at Chi Town Station in Michigan. Sadly theirs wasn't work due to a broken part.
@chiplucas38756 жыл бұрын
My Bluehealer is the same way Lol.
@chaddixon57256 жыл бұрын
We spray the cars with antifreeze and mix it in the coal. Works fine.
@HillbillyRednecking6 жыл бұрын
So the coupler pivots?
@LeadfootPTM6 жыл бұрын
Pat Pikulski yes, one on each car.
@TheXaos7775 жыл бұрын
They have what's called a "rotary coupler" which stays attached to the adjacent cars.
@TrainCrazy.9 жыл бұрын
Dang!!!!!!!!!!!!! I always wondered how they did that.....thanks for sharing
@gofastorbelast14149 жыл бұрын
at our plant in indiana we use this method mainly because in the winter the coal comes in on the train frozen tipping it upside down breaks all the frozen coal apart you mainly see these coal dumpers in areas were there is freezing weather
@DrRichtoffen110 жыл бұрын
And no these cars don't have the couplers in the center, they're standard rail cars, they use hydraulic arms to clamp the wheels and the sides in place and flip the car over.
@DrRichtoffen18 жыл бұрын
+Kabuki Kitsune I'll believe it when I see it dude I've watched the rotary dumpers at the keystone plant near my house, and I've worked for the railroad, I've watched them do this, they uncouple the cars, these aren't mine carts....
@ScotWithOnet6 жыл бұрын
I've been to many rotary car dumpers across the country, and almost NONE of them de-couple the cars. They have rotary couplers.
@brandons72vette10 жыл бұрын
Just a Toyota, no big loss.
@Little_Fymth10 жыл бұрын
who's the dumbass that came up with this idea?
@dtruitt28110 жыл бұрын
America
@sthpac6910 жыл бұрын
It just seems to me, that this would be more efficient if there was a pit about three hopper lengths with a conveyor to move the coal to storage or where ever it go. This way the train could continually move very slow and have a man unlocking the hopper doors on one side and another locking them on the other. This taking one car and flipping it takes so long and a pit three car lengths would surely be long enough for a car to empty before it reaches the end of the pit, um just saying.
@jayzo10 жыл бұрын
It would be more efficient than tipping every single hopper. They do that in the UK and I think it can be done without someone having to manually lock/unlock them.
@DrRichtoffen110 жыл бұрын
Hey up here in PA we do this at almost every power plant dude, the reason, most of our coal is still in its raw form, the plants their own grinders. Using the bottom slides tends to jam up with our coal, and not to mention not all of it can be dumped out. Now if there's any other armchair experts from the UK or somewhere on earth where they think they know It all please feel free to ask...
@apostleverde10 жыл бұрын
Matt Patt Add to that the fact that it would take a lot longer to dump everything out through the bottom hoppers. Any idea what the time savings is exactly, Matt? (even assuming nothing jammed, how long would it take to empty the car through the bottom?)
@sharkheadism9 жыл бұрын
Matt Patt sthpac69 apostleverde The main advantage to rotary dump is speed of unloading and greatly reducing the number of moving parts on the railcar (by removing the dump doors). The disadvantage is a high initial cost of a rotary unloader.
@sthpac699 жыл бұрын
sharkheadism I love this conversation and your comment made me go to an area around town so that i could look at hoppers on the side track, and i understand what you are saying about the efficiency of spinning the car and how much that machine must cost, but i still believe that a slow moving train over a pit 3 or even 4 car lengths would allow time for a jammed hopper door to be un-jammed or stop the train for a min and side track that car over another pit . Just looking at this machine " which is really sharp i might add, the pit just seems it will work.
@MrMarkpark10 жыл бұрын
I had to sign in 5 ways to post this so I hope its worth it.....anyway, The highs seem to drop off noticeably just a few degrees off axis. Is it just the video or are they that much a sweet spot speaker?
@kimsands798910 жыл бұрын
ever hear of a fork lift??
@jacobw.singh-rubio742210 жыл бұрын
the train went belly up
@edwellis110 жыл бұрын
how ignorant can you be. Not to mention fluid leaking from the final drives, etc. the motor oil would leak into the upper cylinders you can use a fork lift that you can control much easier.
@Coolty4410 жыл бұрын
....They pulled to tires to upright it. How fucking dumb do you have to be to OK flipping a fucking loader on its side to remove the tires?
@joshsakran17010 жыл бұрын
Coolty44 two
@spicyF110 жыл бұрын
heres the description above "Caterpillar 988H on it's side. Removing the tires so the machine could be pulled over." guess u wish youtube had a delete comment feature lol
@bigpapasnoop10 жыл бұрын
What an awesome process.
@Spanktracula10 жыл бұрын
@leadfootPTM Cool vid I always wanted to see this in action.. From a past comment of yours I take it newer coal plants are using bottom dump cars?
@royreynolds1086 жыл бұрын
It depends on where the coal is mined and how long the transit time is. If there is enough time for the coal to freeze in the car during transit from the mine to the unloader, then the cars will need to go through a warming house or thawing shed to thaw the coal so it will empty. Generally coal mined in Montana or Wyoming or other northern states will be loaded in rotary dump cars because transit time is a day or more and will freeze in the cars. Coal loaded and delivered in hours (besides in warmer areas) can be loaded in bottom dump cars which can be opened and closed remotely and will have little chance of freezing. Many of these trains are loaded continuously whether rotary dump or bottom dump. If the train can be unloaded without stopping then the unloading will be about the same amount of time as loading without stopping. Rotary dumping of cars was done by the Pennsy, N&W, and Virginian on the east coast in the 1930's transferring coal to ships one car at a time and those cars were regular bottom dumping hopper cars.
@LeadfootPTM10 жыл бұрын
Also the belts run maximum capacity using this dumper so no time is wasted. A bottom dump car wouldn't save any time. The motor driving this is 100hp
@LeadfootPTM10 жыл бұрын
These cars are rentals. The bottom dumps weren't in production when the plant was constructed.
@LeadfootPTM10 жыл бұрын
Yes those cars are used but must be purchased.
@MichaelClock10 жыл бұрын
What a waste of time and energy! Why dont they have cars with a hole at the botton which can be opened and shut by a switch? Would this be too complicated?
@irpriestley7 жыл бұрын
Coal does not slide that easily. It can get stuck.
@oscarmedrano554910 жыл бұрын
100% sangre amarilla
@Coolty4410 жыл бұрын
Takes all the weight off the top, allows you to very, very easily use a lower center of gravity at the tow truck to pull it over. Then its all about using the winch from above to lift it in the air from the axels, set it up on blocks or whatever, and putting the tires back on.
@LeadfootPTM11 жыл бұрын
Yes we have a few :) I feed about 5lb or more of sugar each week
@siahbella11 жыл бұрын
You got a whole flock of them lead foot!
@tomebakke11 жыл бұрын
lol,taking the tires off to pull it over??thats the dumbest i ever heard...
@Dinoxt1211 жыл бұрын
Get this crew there 2 checks there all down the road now kicking rocks ...all there doing here is PULLING THERE PRICKS...
@klauswittrupjensen11 жыл бұрын
That must be some really smart people working there, because I can for sure not figure out what the fuck they are thinking about.
@LeadfootPTM11 жыл бұрын
His bucket was too high on an uneven ramp.
@LeadfootPTM11 жыл бұрын
Not in my 23 years either, knock on wood.........
@Lotum4n11 жыл бұрын
Better get the grease gun out now while its in that position that way you wont need to get on your back later on and grease the universal joints .
@hyster36011 жыл бұрын
BBT609 you read my mind!!!
@LeadfootPTM11 жыл бұрын
Yes we like them allot seeing how we only have $75 in them. They are new but were damaged in the store. So we got them for a song. I made the video to show the damage. I run a vintage ten inch paradigm bottom fire sub with them and it works out great. We also have a pair of klipsch KG 2.5's we run on the rear ch. Hopefully you can audition the speakers before you buy. Good luck! BTW we are making plans to travel to Hope Ar. to tour the Klipsch factory and the Klipsch museum of audio history
@krispysback5 жыл бұрын
LeadfootPTM Iv got these speakers & damn those are def damaged but yeah for $75 not bad I guess. Wonder what dumb shit damaged those that bad sheeesh I prefer to pay a sale price for new ones so I know it doesn’t effect sound but that just me. I’m sure with those split the way they are is effecting the sound in some way
@0507tristian11 жыл бұрын
You like your ML motion 40's? Im debating to get the ML 40's or klipsch 82ii. I will probably use mine 60% for movies and 40% for music.
@Alecks199011 жыл бұрын
what about the liquids such as fuel oil and water, they will leak out everywhere ... im not even sure if it will start again properly ...
@SuburbAllied11 жыл бұрын
I am in the weird part of KZread again? I just though i went from there!
@rizoooooooo11 жыл бұрын
barney
@bud101411 жыл бұрын
In all my years, I have never "flipped" one either!
@8literbeater11 жыл бұрын
I guess in all the years of running equipment, I never drove one.
@Nirotix11 жыл бұрын
Looks like one of those expensive "oppss!" to me. Operator may be getting a long vacation from his job after that.
@LeadfootPTM11 жыл бұрын
988G 088 was a typo
@BBT60911 жыл бұрын
You probably wonder "How can the train still be attach if tipped over?" Well, the couplers are design to turn on these cars. So then they get unloaded the couplers and airhoses turn as the unload, keeping the train intact.
@generationll11 жыл бұрын
There has go to be an easier way
@TENNSUMITSUMA11 жыл бұрын
i dont get the title either, especially after reading the more info panel.
@TENNSUMITSUMA11 жыл бұрын
how did they get it on its side?! and not break it when it gets put back right side up?!
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How do they couple or uncouple rotary coupler? Any video?
Ah yes, rotary ends are fun when you accidentally mix them up.
I always like when they shop up still turned 90 degrees.
@@CouchToBike Hmm I think that means the coupler pins are worn a fck ton or maybe the yoke 😂
They should get more modern streamlined hoppers like they have in Australian
I like a place like that. It’s a quite and far from neighbor
facebook.com/groups/1173365756036596/ join the group call "Monte Carlo Ridaz" we accept all years an generations just click the link ☝🏾at the top an will take you straight there
I saw a miniature one of these at Chi Town Station in Michigan. Sadly theirs wasn't work due to a broken part.
My Bluehealer is the same way Lol.
We spray the cars with antifreeze and mix it in the coal. Works fine.
So the coupler pivots?
Pat Pikulski yes, one on each car.
They have what's called a "rotary coupler" which stays attached to the adjacent cars.
Dang!!!!!!!!!!!!! I always wondered how they did that.....thanks for sharing
at our plant in indiana we use this method mainly because in the winter the coal comes in on the train frozen tipping it upside down breaks all the frozen coal apart you mainly see these coal dumpers in areas were there is freezing weather
And no these cars don't have the couplers in the center, they're standard rail cars, they use hydraulic arms to clamp the wheels and the sides in place and flip the car over.
+Kabuki Kitsune I'll believe it when I see it dude I've watched the rotary dumpers at the keystone plant near my house, and I've worked for the railroad, I've watched them do this, they uncouple the cars, these aren't mine carts....
I've been to many rotary car dumpers across the country, and almost NONE of them de-couple the cars. They have rotary couplers.
Just a Toyota, no big loss.
who's the dumbass that came up with this idea?
America
It just seems to me, that this would be more efficient if there was a pit about three hopper lengths with a conveyor to move the coal to storage or where ever it go. This way the train could continually move very slow and have a man unlocking the hopper doors on one side and another locking them on the other. This taking one car and flipping it takes so long and a pit three car lengths would surely be long enough for a car to empty before it reaches the end of the pit, um just saying.
It would be more efficient than tipping every single hopper. They do that in the UK and I think it can be done without someone having to manually lock/unlock them.
Hey up here in PA we do this at almost every power plant dude, the reason, most of our coal is still in its raw form, the plants their own grinders. Using the bottom slides tends to jam up with our coal, and not to mention not all of it can be dumped out. Now if there's any other armchair experts from the UK or somewhere on earth where they think they know It all please feel free to ask...
Matt Patt Add to that the fact that it would take a lot longer to dump everything out through the bottom hoppers. Any idea what the time savings is exactly, Matt? (even assuming nothing jammed, how long would it take to empty the car through the bottom?)
Matt Patt sthpac69 apostleverde The main advantage to rotary dump is speed of unloading and greatly reducing the number of moving parts on the railcar (by removing the dump doors). The disadvantage is a high initial cost of a rotary unloader.
sharkheadism I love this conversation and your comment made me go to an area around town so that i could look at hoppers on the side track, and i understand what you are saying about the efficiency of spinning the car and how much that machine must cost, but i still believe that a slow moving train over a pit 3 or even 4 car lengths would allow time for a jammed hopper door to be un-jammed or stop the train for a min and side track that car over another pit . Just looking at this machine " which is really sharp i might add, the pit just seems it will work.
I had to sign in 5 ways to post this so I hope its worth it.....anyway, The highs seem to drop off noticeably just a few degrees off axis. Is it just the video or are they that much a sweet spot speaker?
ever hear of a fork lift??
the train went belly up
how ignorant can you be. Not to mention fluid leaking from the final drives, etc. the motor oil would leak into the upper cylinders you can use a fork lift that you can control much easier.
....They pulled to tires to upright it. How fucking dumb do you have to be to OK flipping a fucking loader on its side to remove the tires?
Coolty44 two
heres the description above "Caterpillar 988H on it's side. Removing the tires so the machine could be pulled over." guess u wish youtube had a delete comment feature lol
What an awesome process.
@leadfootPTM Cool vid I always wanted to see this in action.. From a past comment of yours I take it newer coal plants are using bottom dump cars?
It depends on where the coal is mined and how long the transit time is. If there is enough time for the coal to freeze in the car during transit from the mine to the unloader, then the cars will need to go through a warming house or thawing shed to thaw the coal so it will empty. Generally coal mined in Montana or Wyoming or other northern states will be loaded in rotary dump cars because transit time is a day or more and will freeze in the cars. Coal loaded and delivered in hours (besides in warmer areas) can be loaded in bottom dump cars which can be opened and closed remotely and will have little chance of freezing. Many of these trains are loaded continuously whether rotary dump or bottom dump. If the train can be unloaded without stopping then the unloading will be about the same amount of time as loading without stopping. Rotary dumping of cars was done by the Pennsy, N&W, and Virginian on the east coast in the 1930's transferring coal to ships one car at a time and those cars were regular bottom dumping hopper cars.
Also the belts run maximum capacity using this dumper so no time is wasted. A bottom dump car wouldn't save any time. The motor driving this is 100hp
These cars are rentals. The bottom dumps weren't in production when the plant was constructed.
Yes those cars are used but must be purchased.
What a waste of time and energy! Why dont they have cars with a hole at the botton which can be opened and shut by a switch? Would this be too complicated?
Coal does not slide that easily. It can get stuck.
100% sangre amarilla
Takes all the weight off the top, allows you to very, very easily use a lower center of gravity at the tow truck to pull it over. Then its all about using the winch from above to lift it in the air from the axels, set it up on blocks or whatever, and putting the tires back on.
Yes we have a few :) I feed about 5lb or more of sugar each week
You got a whole flock of them lead foot!
lol,taking the tires off to pull it over??thats the dumbest i ever heard...
Get this crew there 2 checks there all down the road now kicking rocks ...all there doing here is PULLING THERE PRICKS...
That must be some really smart people working there, because I can for sure not figure out what the fuck they are thinking about.
His bucket was too high on an uneven ramp.
Not in my 23 years either, knock on wood.........
Better get the grease gun out now while its in that position that way you wont need to get on your back later on and grease the universal joints .
BBT609 you read my mind!!!
Yes we like them allot seeing how we only have $75 in them. They are new but were damaged in the store. So we got them for a song. I made the video to show the damage. I run a vintage ten inch paradigm bottom fire sub with them and it works out great. We also have a pair of klipsch KG 2.5's we run on the rear ch. Hopefully you can audition the speakers before you buy. Good luck! BTW we are making plans to travel to Hope Ar. to tour the Klipsch factory and the Klipsch museum of audio history
LeadfootPTM Iv got these speakers & damn those are def damaged but yeah for $75 not bad I guess. Wonder what dumb shit damaged those that bad sheeesh I prefer to pay a sale price for new ones so I know it doesn’t effect sound but that just me. I’m sure with those split the way they are is effecting the sound in some way
You like your ML motion 40's? Im debating to get the ML 40's or klipsch 82ii. I will probably use mine 60% for movies and 40% for music.
what about the liquids such as fuel oil and water, they will leak out everywhere ... im not even sure if it will start again properly ...
I am in the weird part of KZread again? I just though i went from there!
barney
In all my years, I have never "flipped" one either!
I guess in all the years of running equipment, I never drove one.
Looks like one of those expensive "oppss!" to me. Operator may be getting a long vacation from his job after that.
988G 088 was a typo
You probably wonder "How can the train still be attach if tipped over?" Well, the couplers are design to turn on these cars. So then they get unloaded the couplers and airhoses turn as the unload, keeping the train intact.
There has go to be an easier way
i dont get the title either, especially after reading the more info panel.
how did they get it on its side?! and not break it when it gets put back right side up?!