Two hot chicks together go for it been there love woman and men 😂 have fun
@SeaEagles-xh1vw4 сағат бұрын
You look at how Jonas behaves on the sideline (like a child). He’s done it with Emma and city’s manager. To me he’s for Jonas and not the team. If you look at vids before Jonas and after the whole team has a different demeanour. I think Viv moving may be a blessing in disguise. The fact that she only signed a 12 month contract said to me at the time she probably wanted a change and Jonas being the coach may have been a factor.
@SeaEagles-xh1vw5 сағат бұрын
This is the big downside to being a couple in a team especially one as high profile as Viv and Beth. When there is an issue with one the other will clearly be effected. I’m not nor will ever be a Jonas fan. To me he’s the wrong fit for the Arsenal dna. Viv loves that club and I could see her coaching there in the future. No coincidence that all if not most of the players have had serious injuries under his tenure. A coincidence I think not just bad coaching. The players that have had serious injuries seem to be ones that have club champions league and internationals. To me they should have a different training program created or individualised. I know city is the big favourite for Viv but I hope she goes to a team like Tottenham where she can mentor players on the up. If Tottenham can sign Grace Clinton and Viv next year under Robert Vilahamn (a good coach) they can really build something. Ultimate revenge Tottenham beating their local rivals. Beth and katy can come when there contracts are up at Arsenal. 😊
@cha3wonie7 сағат бұрын
ellie is a 2000 baby but the way she takes care of dvd 24/7 is so awesome
@autumnmatthews317916 сағат бұрын
I really want Viv to go to Chelsea and they lost Fran Kirby, it would be great for her, and Beth would still be near
@davidwilliams11618 сағат бұрын
It's he who should be shown the exit door not her he's not a good manager he's even ruined Russo unable to get the best out of her he's clueless. It's time to replace him with another manager.
@kenspedding459420 сағат бұрын
Get rid of a lethal goal scorer and keep the headless chicken lardy Russo whose not fit to lace her boots, illogical decision.
@Sassyone-52223 сағат бұрын
Shame on YOU! You & your #^@* channel are ruining women’s soccer with this garbage - I played women’s soccer in a time when soccer was soccer - not promoting an agenda! Shame on YOU!
@jameswarner580923 сағат бұрын
Observations: 1. Yes, Arsenal have messed up big time here. 2. As far as the relationship between Beth and Viv is concerned, while Spurs would be the ideal move logistically, from a fan perspective, it would obviously be the worst thing possible. Chelsea would be second worst. West Ham... would Viv want to take that much of a step down at this stage in her career? 3. Emma Hayes was wrong to do what she did, particularly as it was her choice to only use one ball at the final.
@RelOKeefeКүн бұрын
Some excellent analysis and points made here, thank you girls! You can only operate in a negative environment for so long, especially a deep thinker/smart cookie like Viv. Arsenal women will suffer more under JE.
@peterkay4477Күн бұрын
What ARE you trying to say, woman!?
@robertrammullen6935Күн бұрын
Well is there something going on as in RELATIONSHIPS? because Relationships can get in the way of the game. They need to be alone to play
@TrickyEditz.Күн бұрын
I would love to see a Caitlin and Katie update [since I think there gone to rome] And maybe throw in some Ruesha drama if there is any 😂
@LiamBrady_AFCКүн бұрын
Now with Viv out of the picture, I think Leah W. should make a move for Beth. They would make such a lovely couple.
@dreamergurlOGКүн бұрын
Also the news is that Lucy Bronze is in talks with Barcelona to stay- maybe it wasn't updated when this video was recorded but it sounds like she wants to stay, but maybe only if the money is right? I think Putellas staying helped influence Lucy to want to stay (besides maybe Ona also haha).
@SaraSarahКүн бұрын
OHH!! Thank you!! Yeah I don't think I had looked into that situation enough just hearing the rumor a week or so ago! Aww Im happy for Lucy but it would be great to see her back in the WSL!
@dreamergurlOGКүн бұрын
I imagine if Viv does goes to Manchester and it is a long-distance situation, they'll try and work it out but if things get hard, I could see Beth pushing for someone (i.e., Man City or ManU) to buy out the rest of her contract in the January transfer window and to transfer her closer to Viv, or to maybe get Arsenal to loan her out (though I think being on loan would be highly unlikely). Otherwise, they'll just focus on the fact that this is temporary but them as a couple is forever and just try to get through the year until Beth can leave next year. If Viv only does a one-year contract somewhere, it'll be interesting next year to see where they both go- if Viv comes to a London team (if not already there- ManCity is still just a rumor) and if Beth stays at Arsenal, or if Beth leaves regardless of if Viv is at a London team or not. Either way, I'm hoping they can recognize this is short-term and that each other is forever and that they can make it through this. Their history with Daan and Lisa both moving to different clubs and then the rel. ending soon after though makes me slightly nervous, but ultimately it doesn't affect us in any way lol.
@midgebattelle9084Күн бұрын
Jonas is a very intrusive male body wise.....did it wit Emma ....and Viv.....a clueless male....dumb obviously
@Peter-yj8fjКүн бұрын
I really would like to comment on this but unfortunately I just don't care because women's football is just awful.
@jameswarner580923 сағат бұрын
Except you actively decided to click on this video, presumably watch it, and make a comment. And no it isn't.
@Peter-yj8fj10 сағат бұрын
@@jameswarner5809 yeah I like to rub myself when I see women in white shorts
@paulhealy2557Күн бұрын
IF you didn't see it this is Viv speaking to the fans after the game on Saturday kzread.info/dash/bejne/gopp3LGEaJbaf9o.html
@hahafalseflag5090Күн бұрын
Where is Viv going?
@Footielad560Күн бұрын
I think it's a bit shady to suggest Emma Hayes was right to aggressively push Eidevall, she's the only one who acted with direct physical force and should have been punished for it. The tactile issue is an interesting one, in sports coaches hug, put their arms around players' shoulders or their hands on their arms but that doesn't make these necessarily aggressive or sexual acts, regardless of gender. I get that this a touchy subject though and there's a fine line which shouldn't be crossed. I don't envy EIdevall having to deal with multiple player relationships in the workplace. I can't imagine that the McCabe-Foord /Walti synergy is too good and that seems to have translated to a lack of performance on the field.
@SaraSarahКүн бұрын
Yeah, a few others said the same thing - that saying anything other than Emma's actions were wrong is also wrong. I think that's a really good point that I didn't get right before. Looking back, I probably should have just left out that part or made it clear how messed up what Emma did was!! may mention it in the next video!
@TV-sl2df2 күн бұрын
While Beth's track record is 0-2, I think there's still hope they will stay together. As you age and mature and gain wisdom, you might not necessarily repeat the same decisions from your past younger self. It's pretty hard letting go of someone who supported you through your mom's passing and long term ACL injury rehabilitation, did a documentary with, accompany you to multiple prestigious awards, who you wrote about all over your memoir and raised a puppy together. Maybe Viv is the one. Maybe it's the one worth fighting for or at the very least endure a long commute to see 🙂
@joyluke102 күн бұрын
This team has so much talent, jonas doesn't get it done... there is just something about this guy that seems off. I feel for the fans
@lourobinson21532 күн бұрын
The whole Beth will leave now is getting boring. Distance isn't a deal breaker. Yes, Beth has said distance was a problem in her last relationship, but each relationship is different. These two have been through so much, let them be. We all think Viv would have stayed if they had offered her a contract. Jonas is a 🤡 Arsenal will regret it. Forever OUR no11 🐐 always ❤️ ♥️
@Aleskkoficial2 күн бұрын
Se Jonas passou dos limites Beth já está com seu futuro traçado, e acredito que algumas outras importantes jogadoras também estão pensando neste momento se vale continuar no clube e passar pelo mesmo que Viv passou. Por mais que o time seja feminino, a diretoria dos clubes ainda é de maioria masculina o que sempre vai causar insegurança nas jogadoras sobre se realmente irão ouvi-las em caso de um conflito com um homem do clube. Os clubes não podem ouvir apenas jogadores e o técnico, outro profissional precisa mediar em caso de conflito e fazer a gestão dos conflitos, se o clube se esconder e enxergar apenas os negócios jamais será um clube campeão. O Arsenal está seguindo o caminho do PSG, está afastando jogadoras que poderiam vir ao clube, pois passa a imagem de um clube que não cuida de suas jogadoras como deveria. Sinto que Beth não será a única a deixar o clube, pra alegria de seus adversários e pra tristeza de seus torcedores.
@jopainting16682 күн бұрын
🤢🤮🤮
@paulhealy25572 күн бұрын
Jen Beattie said arsenal players had known for while Viv was leaving. Don't if that means weeks or months before the announcement.
@TV-sl2df2 күн бұрын
Probably around valentine's day. Viv played 71 minutes against Liverpool and scored the 1st goal upon ACL return, then 63 minutes against west ham. Then February 17th against ManUnited, she played only 15 minutes for some reason... March was supposedly another knee surgery but who knows....i didn't see a knee brace or crutches when arsenal won conti cup in march. Then a paltry insulting 8 minutes against Leicester on april 21. Zero minutes at everton and where the shoving from jonas occurred. And then she played her final game against brighton subbing in 62nd minute. So it seem like things got icy after west ham/manUnited
@kizzyfarrell61562 күн бұрын
No loyalty in football What a disgusting way to treat legend viv meidema She gonna shine somewhere else now Arsenals loss Best wishes viv meidema 🎉
@Fitchedweave2 күн бұрын
Always interesting,the melding of the deeply meaningful and the light sprinkling chat.Itz in my head ,that’s what I hear.Thankyou both.
@richardsmith58372 күн бұрын
Not as good as he thinks his tactics are poor and Arsenal should be doing so much better than third hope she joins another WSl team and comes back to haunt him 👻👻👻
@kristinaramirez53502 күн бұрын
I could see her going to Tottenum so she stays in London
@Footielad56011 сағат бұрын
Maybe, the rivalry's not as intense as in the men's game
@wuehlmaus22 күн бұрын
Arsenal is the team with the most knee injuries in its players. So it seems, the manager is doing wrong something. Would be better to get rid of Eidevll, but let Viv leave.
@user-vg6nc7kx7b2 күн бұрын
Seriously letting a world class player like viv miedema leave is absolutely disgraceful. The one person who should be leaving is the manager Jonas pack your bags your cars waiting 🏴
@breathe77592 күн бұрын
This is why Emma Hayes doesn't like player relationships
@user-qc9nb9ul9x2 күн бұрын
I think he felt threatened by them together, she is outspoken, and i think he felt it better for him if they were apart for him to not feel they were outspoken on his tactics etc...
@davesmith88312 күн бұрын
I thought the treatment of Viv was shoddy, truly shoddy. I'm sad and disappointed especially as we're not given tangible reasons for her departure
@TV-sl2df2 күн бұрын
Sound manager probably sobbing when they put on Cornelia Street
@lindakline332 күн бұрын
The Arsenal was so stacked with the best players. They should have won every game. They should have won every trophy. They should have won it all. The only THING standing in Arsenal's way was a coach that can't get it down. Politics. It is all politics. Emma Hayes is right about Jonas. He wishes he was Emma, the beat womens coach so far. I would like to see Lucy Bronze and Viv play for the same club. I want to see the players who know how to win be aloud to win. Not held back because of politics. This day is coming. And Jonas you had better bring it.
@EllieAngharad912 күн бұрын
I think everyone was surprised when Arsenal gave Jonas another long contract extension this year because he hasn't been that great recently, some very questionable tactics. They have a fantastic squad and should be up there with the likes of Chelsea. I really hope Viv continues to play in the UK, don't care what team, I'll always support her. Lucy Bronze got me into watching international women's football, and Viv got me into watching domestic football. All-time top scorer in the WSL and ultimate GOAT 🙌
@rasclotify2 күн бұрын
Did anyone else catch someone screaming something disparaging about Jonas during the presentation? It was hard to miss given the silence of the ceremony. We fans ain't happy. Guessing that in two years time this squad will be entirely different. If you notice, the younger players coming up in the squad, it is clear Jonas is trying to bring in a new era. But, on the flip side, such is Football. It's such a short career run to be done by age 35. Further, gotta say, I haven't liked him since the jump. The Lesbian Separatist in me that has a built in "this man is sus' radar started going off for him almost immediately after he was hired. The Manu situation, him screaming at Martha Thomas at a Spurs match, saw him keep a ball away from an oppositional player to kill the clock at a match, his management style, yelling at Erin, etc. I think Emma was 100% spot on her assessment of him, it was her reaction that was impulsive & unprofessional, true, but she wasn't wrong about him. And I found it interesting how quickly ppl threw her under the bus regarding that situation when her track record is VERY spot on. She's smart & doesn't take any shit, straight shooter. Always SO quick to demean the woman in a situation w/o looking at his track record. Ppl don't pay attention to the patterns, & have short memories unfortunately. I feel he has some classic male ego control issues going on. His actions often, to me suggest it's about him, not the squad. It would be interesting to hear how other managers view him in general.
@erictaylor28312 күн бұрын
Grow up.
@Footielad56011 сағат бұрын
There's no excuse for Hayes' aggression. She's the only one who displayed any physical violence.
@dennisogachi88672 күн бұрын
I advise Arsenal to give her a 1year extension such that they can sell her for some money in the next year
@dennisogachi88672 күн бұрын
😢
@PhilipWright-pw31922 күн бұрын
Well, where do I start? The trouble with this video is the same as many others. It picks on a subject, spins the information without any semblence of truth, and because there is no truth to offer, in the place of truth it uses inane inacuracies and unfounded suggestion to get clicks and views by offering utter rubbish. The person who made this video; (Sara Sarah) should be completely and utterly ashamed at using such rediculous spin and propaganda, and has proved beyond any shadow of a doubt that there is nothing of substance or truth to offer...! Sara Sarah, you made this video based on nothing but crap and nonsense, if you personally have ANY first hand (Provable) information then PROVE IT or SHUT UP...! Some of the , so called, personal accusations that you have made need in depth LEGAL scrutiny....!
@rasclotify2 күн бұрын
Okay, Phillip. Take a chill pill. This is an opinion channel that is primarily focused on Lesbians who are into football and subjects under that umbrella within the WOSO world. Sara & Sarah are doing very niche commentary that is innocent & light hearted in nature. You can offer up counter opinion, but yr comment here is a lil harsh. Just calm it down a bit. Breathe, smile. It ain't SO serious.
@therealisticgooner82672 күн бұрын
Ok so for those fans gullible enough to believe Arsenal didn’t offer Viv a contract but allowed her to leave on a free ! Get a grip 🤪 What ever the personal relationship between Viv & Jonas is, playing football is a job and how many of us adore our boss ! To be absolutely honest Jonas like all managers wants first and foremost to win games and if you honestly believe he doesn’t recognise that Arsenal have a better chance of doing that with Viv in the squad than without her you don’t understand the business of football. The women’s game is different to the men’s . As the risk of sounding like a dinosaur there isn’t a huge LGBT community in the men’s game ( this is conversation for anther time ) there is a huge one on the ladies game and let me tell you here and now I have no issue with a woman loving another woman though as most might I worry about the impact living and working with your partner but again who am I to judge ! Though it comes with risks and who knows what happens behind closed doors . It’s clear that Beth isn’t looking to leave ! So that all said what isn’t different is the economics of women’s and mens football. Transfers are paid and players are sold and no club ever wants to see any player leave on a free least of all one of their all time greats who has a good many years left in the game. So if you think Arsenal didn’t offer a contract to Viv your only kidding yourself , of course they did but Viv turned the contract down and decided she wanted to play regularly and given Arsenal payed a world record fee for another striker while Viv was injured, she took that to mean she wasn’t in the mangers plans but what choice did the manager have, you can’t play a whole season with one natural striker in the team. Professional football is a tough business and it is a business like it or not and there is no room for sentiment in business if you want the best successful. If you don’t to loose the soft side of what was the amateur game when ladies football was not taken seriously then you have to play by the rules of Professional Football and those rules are harsh but that’s why the best get paid . So pls don’t think women pro football is different to mens , it’s all about winning and money it’s just the ladies are more sensitive ( see the vid on Emma Hayes last press conference) though Katie McCabe would disagree I’m sure! ( if she was English and a lioness she would get far more credit) . So to end let me ask you the reader ..what is Viv transfer value ? Do you truly believe Arsenal would not want to sell here for that valuation instead of getting nothing as they will get as she joins City or Barca or whoever is lucky enough to sigh her .and will you all cheer her name when she scores the winner to beat us in the league next season ! Viv has made her decision and that’s her right and I respect her reasons because we all have the right to want to be cherished and happy and she obviously didn’t feel she was here so moved on and so as fans must we .
@GuyJames2 күн бұрын
'Beth wants to get out of Arsenal' - she literally shouted that she's not going anywhere. 'Classic sus behaviour' for posting loads about Viv in a short time. If they hadn't have posted anything, or not enough, you would have said 'there you go, it's obvious they never cared about her'. I know you're not journalists but please remember there's a difference between speculation and actual evidence. These are real people we're talking about, not fictional characters. We actually don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
@stefanorafael72472 күн бұрын
12:08 Emma was not and will never be right in that situation. She was acting like a child and a unprofessional manager
@GuyJames2 күн бұрын
Some random thoughts: EH was out of order, completely, in that shove with Jonas. The problem with that clip of Jonas and Viv is not the fact that he touched her, it's how dismissive he seems towards her. Managers have to be able to touch players in a non-sexual way. What if the reason they are letting Viv go is that they have bought someone else in her position, nothing to do with a permanent falling out between them? All of this is speculation about Jonas. Trial by internet is wrong and impossible when we don't have all the facts. One thing we do know is that letting Viv go is definitely a BIG mistake, especially if she goes to City. They will absolutely regret it. What are the odds on Jonas being sacked after a heavy defeat to City in which Viv scores multiple goals?
@SaraSarahКүн бұрын
Yeah I think Sarah and I messed up with this situation. Saying anything other than Emma's actions were wrong is also wrong. I didn't get right Looking back, I probably should have just left out that part or made it clear how messed up what Emma did was!! may mention it in the next video! But yes its not right for her to come at him like that in that situation!
@joanwee26412 күн бұрын
Greetings from Malaysia!, Even in the 21st century, I cannot understand why a man like Jonas Eidevall feel threatened by Vivianne Miedema and would do things to get her out from Arsenal and wouldn't even renewed her contract after all she has done for the Arsenal Club. This is how the world works. It shows that egotistic,, MACHOSIATIC, AND NARCISSISIM and MISOGYNY are still going on in the top level clubs, where man are always running the organization/club. They don't like woman who are better or smarted than them to give ideas or share ideas. They will term it as talk down to them. If you have a player like Vivianne Miedema, any fool would keep her by any means even by chopping his hands, legs and balls to keep her. To slap a top record goal scorer in the face like that shows what kind of club Arsenal is?????? VIVIANNE Miedema has been there to win for ARSENAL during her 7 years there. When she is injured and cannot play, Arsenal is on a downward trend. There is no other player in the WSL who can play like Vivianne Miedema. ANY FOOTBALL CLUB IN THE World WILL BE THE LUCKIEST TO HAVE HER AND since VIVIANNE MIEDEMA has recovered from her Acl injury and is back. Vivianne Miedema will make Arsenal regret they made the biggest all time mistake in history by letting her go. SHE is the GOAT in female football and Vivianne Miedema will bite Arsenal's arse off. The Arsenal club should sack Jonas Eidevall because his training style will not beat the best football clubs in Europe. You need to have a talented world class player like Vivianne Miedema who knows how to score goals.
@ryanporter74003 күн бұрын
You gals are so dramatic, who says she has to leave London? You do know it's possible to stay in London and still win 🦁 💙!!! I'm just saying, just a thought 🏆.
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Beth looks defeated on first look.
Two hot chicks together go for it been there love woman and men 😂 have fun
You look at how Jonas behaves on the sideline (like a child). He’s done it with Emma and city’s manager. To me he’s for Jonas and not the team. If you look at vids before Jonas and after the whole team has a different demeanour. I think Viv moving may be a blessing in disguise. The fact that she only signed a 12 month contract said to me at the time she probably wanted a change and Jonas being the coach may have been a factor.
This is the big downside to being a couple in a team especially one as high profile as Viv and Beth. When there is an issue with one the other will clearly be effected. I’m not nor will ever be a Jonas fan. To me he’s the wrong fit for the Arsenal dna. Viv loves that club and I could see her coaching there in the future. No coincidence that all if not most of the players have had serious injuries under his tenure. A coincidence I think not just bad coaching. The players that have had serious injuries seem to be ones that have club champions league and internationals. To me they should have a different training program created or individualised. I know city is the big favourite for Viv but I hope she goes to a team like Tottenham where she can mentor players on the up. If Tottenham can sign Grace Clinton and Viv next year under Robert Vilahamn (a good coach) they can really build something. Ultimate revenge Tottenham beating their local rivals. Beth and katy can come when there contracts are up at Arsenal. 😊
ellie is a 2000 baby but the way she takes care of dvd 24/7 is so awesome
I really want Viv to go to Chelsea and they lost Fran Kirby, it would be great for her, and Beth would still be near
It's he who should be shown the exit door not her he's not a good manager he's even ruined Russo unable to get the best out of her he's clueless. It's time to replace him with another manager.
Get rid of a lethal goal scorer and keep the headless chicken lardy Russo whose not fit to lace her boots, illogical decision.
Shame on YOU! You & your #^@* channel are ruining women’s soccer with this garbage - I played women’s soccer in a time when soccer was soccer - not promoting an agenda! Shame on YOU!
Observations: 1. Yes, Arsenal have messed up big time here. 2. As far as the relationship between Beth and Viv is concerned, while Spurs would be the ideal move logistically, from a fan perspective, it would obviously be the worst thing possible. Chelsea would be second worst. West Ham... would Viv want to take that much of a step down at this stage in her career? 3. Emma Hayes was wrong to do what she did, particularly as it was her choice to only use one ball at the final.
Some excellent analysis and points made here, thank you girls! You can only operate in a negative environment for so long, especially a deep thinker/smart cookie like Viv. Arsenal women will suffer more under JE.
What ARE you trying to say, woman!?
Well is there something going on as in RELATIONSHIPS? because Relationships can get in the way of the game. They need to be alone to play
I would love to see a Caitlin and Katie update [since I think there gone to rome] And maybe throw in some Ruesha drama if there is any 😂
Now with Viv out of the picture, I think Leah W. should make a move for Beth. They would make such a lovely couple.
Also the news is that Lucy Bronze is in talks with Barcelona to stay- maybe it wasn't updated when this video was recorded but it sounds like she wants to stay, but maybe only if the money is right? I think Putellas staying helped influence Lucy to want to stay (besides maybe Ona also haha).
OHH!! Thank you!! Yeah I don't think I had looked into that situation enough just hearing the rumor a week or so ago! Aww Im happy for Lucy but it would be great to see her back in the WSL!
I imagine if Viv does goes to Manchester and it is a long-distance situation, they'll try and work it out but if things get hard, I could see Beth pushing for someone (i.e., Man City or ManU) to buy out the rest of her contract in the January transfer window and to transfer her closer to Viv, or to maybe get Arsenal to loan her out (though I think being on loan would be highly unlikely). Otherwise, they'll just focus on the fact that this is temporary but them as a couple is forever and just try to get through the year until Beth can leave next year. If Viv only does a one-year contract somewhere, it'll be interesting next year to see where they both go- if Viv comes to a London team (if not already there- ManCity is still just a rumor) and if Beth stays at Arsenal, or if Beth leaves regardless of if Viv is at a London team or not. Either way, I'm hoping they can recognize this is short-term and that each other is forever and that they can make it through this. Their history with Daan and Lisa both moving to different clubs and then the rel. ending soon after though makes me slightly nervous, but ultimately it doesn't affect us in any way lol.
Jonas is a very intrusive male body wise.....did it wit Emma ....and Viv.....a clueless male....dumb obviously
I really would like to comment on this but unfortunately I just don't care because women's football is just awful.
Except you actively decided to click on this video, presumably watch it, and make a comment. And no it isn't.
@@jameswarner5809 yeah I like to rub myself when I see women in white shorts
IF you didn't see it this is Viv speaking to the fans after the game on Saturday kzread.info/dash/bejne/gopp3LGEaJbaf9o.html
Where is Viv going?
I think it's a bit shady to suggest Emma Hayes was right to aggressively push Eidevall, she's the only one who acted with direct physical force and should have been punished for it. The tactile issue is an interesting one, in sports coaches hug, put their arms around players' shoulders or their hands on their arms but that doesn't make these necessarily aggressive or sexual acts, regardless of gender. I get that this a touchy subject though and there's a fine line which shouldn't be crossed. I don't envy EIdevall having to deal with multiple player relationships in the workplace. I can't imagine that the McCabe-Foord /Walti synergy is too good and that seems to have translated to a lack of performance on the field.
Yeah, a few others said the same thing - that saying anything other than Emma's actions were wrong is also wrong. I think that's a really good point that I didn't get right before. Looking back, I probably should have just left out that part or made it clear how messed up what Emma did was!! may mention it in the next video!
While Beth's track record is 0-2, I think there's still hope they will stay together. As you age and mature and gain wisdom, you might not necessarily repeat the same decisions from your past younger self. It's pretty hard letting go of someone who supported you through your mom's passing and long term ACL injury rehabilitation, did a documentary with, accompany you to multiple prestigious awards, who you wrote about all over your memoir and raised a puppy together. Maybe Viv is the one. Maybe it's the one worth fighting for or at the very least endure a long commute to see 🙂
This team has so much talent, jonas doesn't get it done... there is just something about this guy that seems off. I feel for the fans
The whole Beth will leave now is getting boring. Distance isn't a deal breaker. Yes, Beth has said distance was a problem in her last relationship, but each relationship is different. These two have been through so much, let them be. We all think Viv would have stayed if they had offered her a contract. Jonas is a 🤡 Arsenal will regret it. Forever OUR no11 🐐 always ❤️ ♥️
Se Jonas passou dos limites Beth já está com seu futuro traçado, e acredito que algumas outras importantes jogadoras também estão pensando neste momento se vale continuar no clube e passar pelo mesmo que Viv passou. Por mais que o time seja feminino, a diretoria dos clubes ainda é de maioria masculina o que sempre vai causar insegurança nas jogadoras sobre se realmente irão ouvi-las em caso de um conflito com um homem do clube. Os clubes não podem ouvir apenas jogadores e o técnico, outro profissional precisa mediar em caso de conflito e fazer a gestão dos conflitos, se o clube se esconder e enxergar apenas os negócios jamais será um clube campeão. O Arsenal está seguindo o caminho do PSG, está afastando jogadoras que poderiam vir ao clube, pois passa a imagem de um clube que não cuida de suas jogadoras como deveria. Sinto que Beth não será a única a deixar o clube, pra alegria de seus adversários e pra tristeza de seus torcedores.
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Jen Beattie said arsenal players had known for while Viv was leaving. Don't if that means weeks or months before the announcement.
Probably around valentine's day. Viv played 71 minutes against Liverpool and scored the 1st goal upon ACL return, then 63 minutes against west ham. Then February 17th against ManUnited, she played only 15 minutes for some reason... March was supposedly another knee surgery but who knows....i didn't see a knee brace or crutches when arsenal won conti cup in march. Then a paltry insulting 8 minutes against Leicester on april 21. Zero minutes at everton and where the shoving from jonas occurred. And then she played her final game against brighton subbing in 62nd minute. So it seem like things got icy after west ham/manUnited
No loyalty in football What a disgusting way to treat legend viv meidema She gonna shine somewhere else now Arsenals loss Best wishes viv meidema 🎉
Always interesting,the melding of the deeply meaningful and the light sprinkling chat.Itz in my head ,that’s what I hear.Thankyou both.
Not as good as he thinks his tactics are poor and Arsenal should be doing so much better than third hope she joins another WSl team and comes back to haunt him 👻👻👻
I could see her going to Tottenum so she stays in London
Maybe, the rivalry's not as intense as in the men's game
Arsenal is the team with the most knee injuries in its players. So it seems, the manager is doing wrong something. Would be better to get rid of Eidevll, but let Viv leave.
Seriously letting a world class player like viv miedema leave is absolutely disgraceful. The one person who should be leaving is the manager Jonas pack your bags your cars waiting 🏴
This is why Emma Hayes doesn't like player relationships
I think he felt threatened by them together, she is outspoken, and i think he felt it better for him if they were apart for him to not feel they were outspoken on his tactics etc...
I thought the treatment of Viv was shoddy, truly shoddy. I'm sad and disappointed especially as we're not given tangible reasons for her departure
Sound manager probably sobbing when they put on Cornelia Street
The Arsenal was so stacked with the best players. They should have won every game. They should have won every trophy. They should have won it all. The only THING standing in Arsenal's way was a coach that can't get it down. Politics. It is all politics. Emma Hayes is right about Jonas. He wishes he was Emma, the beat womens coach so far. I would like to see Lucy Bronze and Viv play for the same club. I want to see the players who know how to win be aloud to win. Not held back because of politics. This day is coming. And Jonas you had better bring it.
I think everyone was surprised when Arsenal gave Jonas another long contract extension this year because he hasn't been that great recently, some very questionable tactics. They have a fantastic squad and should be up there with the likes of Chelsea. I really hope Viv continues to play in the UK, don't care what team, I'll always support her. Lucy Bronze got me into watching international women's football, and Viv got me into watching domestic football. All-time top scorer in the WSL and ultimate GOAT 🙌
Did anyone else catch someone screaming something disparaging about Jonas during the presentation? It was hard to miss given the silence of the ceremony. We fans ain't happy. Guessing that in two years time this squad will be entirely different. If you notice, the younger players coming up in the squad, it is clear Jonas is trying to bring in a new era. But, on the flip side, such is Football. It's such a short career run to be done by age 35. Further, gotta say, I haven't liked him since the jump. The Lesbian Separatist in me that has a built in "this man is sus' radar started going off for him almost immediately after he was hired. The Manu situation, him screaming at Martha Thomas at a Spurs match, saw him keep a ball away from an oppositional player to kill the clock at a match, his management style, yelling at Erin, etc. I think Emma was 100% spot on her assessment of him, it was her reaction that was impulsive & unprofessional, true, but she wasn't wrong about him. And I found it interesting how quickly ppl threw her under the bus regarding that situation when her track record is VERY spot on. She's smart & doesn't take any shit, straight shooter. Always SO quick to demean the woman in a situation w/o looking at his track record. Ppl don't pay attention to the patterns, & have short memories unfortunately. I feel he has some classic male ego control issues going on. His actions often, to me suggest it's about him, not the squad. It would be interesting to hear how other managers view him in general.
Grow up.
There's no excuse for Hayes' aggression. She's the only one who displayed any physical violence.
I advise Arsenal to give her a 1year extension such that they can sell her for some money in the next year
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Well, where do I start? The trouble with this video is the same as many others. It picks on a subject, spins the information without any semblence of truth, and because there is no truth to offer, in the place of truth it uses inane inacuracies and unfounded suggestion to get clicks and views by offering utter rubbish. The person who made this video; (Sara Sarah) should be completely and utterly ashamed at using such rediculous spin and propaganda, and has proved beyond any shadow of a doubt that there is nothing of substance or truth to offer...! Sara Sarah, you made this video based on nothing but crap and nonsense, if you personally have ANY first hand (Provable) information then PROVE IT or SHUT UP...! Some of the , so called, personal accusations that you have made need in depth LEGAL scrutiny....!
Okay, Phillip. Take a chill pill. This is an opinion channel that is primarily focused on Lesbians who are into football and subjects under that umbrella within the WOSO world. Sara & Sarah are doing very niche commentary that is innocent & light hearted in nature. You can offer up counter opinion, but yr comment here is a lil harsh. Just calm it down a bit. Breathe, smile. It ain't SO serious.
Ok so for those fans gullible enough to believe Arsenal didn’t offer Viv a contract but allowed her to leave on a free ! Get a grip 🤪 What ever the personal relationship between Viv & Jonas is, playing football is a job and how many of us adore our boss ! To be absolutely honest Jonas like all managers wants first and foremost to win games and if you honestly believe he doesn’t recognise that Arsenal have a better chance of doing that with Viv in the squad than without her you don’t understand the business of football. The women’s game is different to the men’s . As the risk of sounding like a dinosaur there isn’t a huge LGBT community in the men’s game ( this is conversation for anther time ) there is a huge one on the ladies game and let me tell you here and now I have no issue with a woman loving another woman though as most might I worry about the impact living and working with your partner but again who am I to judge ! Though it comes with risks and who knows what happens behind closed doors . It’s clear that Beth isn’t looking to leave ! So that all said what isn’t different is the economics of women’s and mens football. Transfers are paid and players are sold and no club ever wants to see any player leave on a free least of all one of their all time greats who has a good many years left in the game. So if you think Arsenal didn’t offer a contract to Viv your only kidding yourself , of course they did but Viv turned the contract down and decided she wanted to play regularly and given Arsenal payed a world record fee for another striker while Viv was injured, she took that to mean she wasn’t in the mangers plans but what choice did the manager have, you can’t play a whole season with one natural striker in the team. Professional football is a tough business and it is a business like it or not and there is no room for sentiment in business if you want the best successful. If you don’t to loose the soft side of what was the amateur game when ladies football was not taken seriously then you have to play by the rules of Professional Football and those rules are harsh but that’s why the best get paid . So pls don’t think women pro football is different to mens , it’s all about winning and money it’s just the ladies are more sensitive ( see the vid on Emma Hayes last press conference) though Katie McCabe would disagree I’m sure! ( if she was English and a lioness she would get far more credit) . So to end let me ask you the reader ..what is Viv transfer value ? Do you truly believe Arsenal would not want to sell here for that valuation instead of getting nothing as they will get as she joins City or Barca or whoever is lucky enough to sigh her .and will you all cheer her name when she scores the winner to beat us in the league next season ! Viv has made her decision and that’s her right and I respect her reasons because we all have the right to want to be cherished and happy and she obviously didn’t feel she was here so moved on and so as fans must we .
'Beth wants to get out of Arsenal' - she literally shouted that she's not going anywhere. 'Classic sus behaviour' for posting loads about Viv in a short time. If they hadn't have posted anything, or not enough, you would have said 'there you go, it's obvious they never cared about her'. I know you're not journalists but please remember there's a difference between speculation and actual evidence. These are real people we're talking about, not fictional characters. We actually don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
12:08 Emma was not and will never be right in that situation. She was acting like a child and a unprofessional manager
Some random thoughts: EH was out of order, completely, in that shove with Jonas. The problem with that clip of Jonas and Viv is not the fact that he touched her, it's how dismissive he seems towards her. Managers have to be able to touch players in a non-sexual way. What if the reason they are letting Viv go is that they have bought someone else in her position, nothing to do with a permanent falling out between them? All of this is speculation about Jonas. Trial by internet is wrong and impossible when we don't have all the facts. One thing we do know is that letting Viv go is definitely a BIG mistake, especially if she goes to City. They will absolutely regret it. What are the odds on Jonas being sacked after a heavy defeat to City in which Viv scores multiple goals?
Yeah I think Sarah and I messed up with this situation. Saying anything other than Emma's actions were wrong is also wrong. I didn't get right Looking back, I probably should have just left out that part or made it clear how messed up what Emma did was!! may mention it in the next video! But yes its not right for her to come at him like that in that situation!
Greetings from Malaysia!, Even in the 21st century, I cannot understand why a man like Jonas Eidevall feel threatened by Vivianne Miedema and would do things to get her out from Arsenal and wouldn't even renewed her contract after all she has done for the Arsenal Club. This is how the world works. It shows that egotistic,, MACHOSIATIC, AND NARCISSISIM and MISOGYNY are still going on in the top level clubs, where man are always running the organization/club. They don't like woman who are better or smarted than them to give ideas or share ideas. They will term it as talk down to them. If you have a player like Vivianne Miedema, any fool would keep her by any means even by chopping his hands, legs and balls to keep her. To slap a top record goal scorer in the face like that shows what kind of club Arsenal is?????? VIVIANNE Miedema has been there to win for ARSENAL during her 7 years there. When she is injured and cannot play, Arsenal is on a downward trend. There is no other player in the WSL who can play like Vivianne Miedema. ANY FOOTBALL CLUB IN THE World WILL BE THE LUCKIEST TO HAVE HER AND since VIVIANNE MIEDEMA has recovered from her Acl injury and is back. Vivianne Miedema will make Arsenal regret they made the biggest all time mistake in history by letting her go. SHE is the GOAT in female football and Vivianne Miedema will bite Arsenal's arse off. The Arsenal club should sack Jonas Eidevall because his training style will not beat the best football clubs in Europe. You need to have a talented world class player like Vivianne Miedema who knows how to score goals.
You gals are so dramatic, who says she has to leave London? You do know it's possible to stay in London and still win 🦁 💙!!! I'm just saying, just a thought 🏆.