* Nice looking gun, but I don't like the satanic symbols in the engraving.
@ronaldjohnson14745 күн бұрын
That is a gorgeous gun. Just wish we had greater access to it in the USA.
@setter555 күн бұрын
In the market for a new gun to replace the sarasketa I've had for 30 years. This looks like a well priced all rounder.
@GeorgeIngram-s6f7 күн бұрын
Thanks Lloyd , in process of applying for licence and found this informative. I’ve learnt a lot from your content as well as the lanky southerner (Johnny I think his name is ) and the strange looking geezer from Oxford gun club. Can you suggest a good shooting ground in or near Cumbria? I want to do as you suggest and look for a fitted good first gun and instruction
@lloydyp7 күн бұрын
Sorry George, I’m not familiar with any clubs in Cumbria off the top of my head. Best bet is probably to post on a forum or Facebook shooting group, however the quality of response you will get is unfortunately questionable.
@cbincbnc9 күн бұрын
What’s the big difference between the 1,3 and 5? also what ear in ear protection do you use ? Thanks
@lloydyp9 күн бұрын
Wood grade and engraving. The higher grades are prettier and nicer finished. I use CENS proflex DX1. If you like you can get 15% off a set by using discount code LLOYD at checkout. 😎
@cbincbnc9 күн бұрын
@@lloydyp thank you very much !!’
@the45er12 күн бұрын
If you don’t know “Perazzi”, you don’t know shotguns!
@fagacitoz12 күн бұрын
Так же присматриваюсь к этому оружию. У нас в России она стоит 157000₽
@SalihSafi14 күн бұрын
We make many of the weapons that you find good. Webley scott, which you think is British, is made in Turkey
@lloydyp13 күн бұрын
Nobody thinks Webley and Scott are British guns.
@gges160517 күн бұрын
I am not into guns but thoroughly enjoyed watching this series the level of craftmanship is incredible and those guns are simply works of art. The level of craftmanship that goes into them is truly amazing and it is clear these guys have a real passion for their work.
@lloydyp16 күн бұрын
Thanks Gary.
@JeffBennison19 күн бұрын
Was that some marksmanship principles breathing there too?
@lloydyp19 күн бұрын
Indeed it was.
@nabilalateeqi475720 күн бұрын
Lloyd, how are you Tell me anestly what's your next shotgun 😅
@lloydyp19 күн бұрын
Krieghoff.
@nabilalateeqi475719 күн бұрын
@@lloydyp yesssss good for you👍
@raybishop317621 күн бұрын
$4453. If we could get it in the states 😭
@thelawofthegun623722 күн бұрын
LUXUS Standard
@neilfoster951723 күн бұрын
Grease or oil I don’t care folks but you need to do it. Recently found tiny orange specks deep inside on the hinge pins. Broken clays obviously so don’t assume it never happens clean and lube your guns you paid hard earned money for them.
@scottshellhorn934325 күн бұрын
It's amazing to me that high end shotguns, 10-12K and up come with very poor wood most of the time. Kolar, by far, uses the nicest wood. I really think certain manufactuers would sell far more guns if they were not so damn cheap on the wood. A guy wants his high end gun to look fabulous. Much of the engraving is over way done. Then they put a damn fence post on a 10K and up shotgun, often 12-15K guns have mediocre wood at best. I have a K80 and paid a lot extra for nicer wood. That gun was far more than 15K.
@TheDoctor4652626 күн бұрын
Am i right in saying the 31" models DON'T have the option to fit barrel weights?
@lloydyp25 күн бұрын
I dont know offhand without checking, but you can check the GMK or Beretta website.
@miguelcarmelogonzalezherre131527 күн бұрын
Que un profesional como tu no sepa dónde se engrasan las armas me sorprende,porque dejas de hacerlo en uno de los sitios más importantes, que es en donde el arma realiza el cierre, que es donde, en caso de la perazzi entran los muñones ,es decir la parte trasera del cañón donde se realiza el cierre al entrar la llamada H. Si no se hace, en poco tiempo la palanca de apertura se sitúa en el centro debido al desgaste del cierre, y en ese caso habrá que proceder al cambio de la pieza denominada H. Saludos.
@jzetec27 күн бұрын
Do you say “mark” for the second bird? I can’t quite work it out. I always thought they were just on report🤷🏼♂️
@saleembarmania529527 күн бұрын
I imagine the internals of the action (hammers, inertia block, etc) just get some machine oil once a year?
@lloydyp27 күн бұрын
Unless it gets wet, I never take my stock off. It gets lubed when it gets serviced.
@saleembarmania529528 күн бұрын
Miroku factory tour, please?
@lloydyp27 күн бұрын
Love to. I just need to find 10 grand to pay for the trip.
@johnjones255828 күн бұрын
Lloyd, looks like your garden has'nt had your attention either. 😮
@lloydyp28 күн бұрын
That’s one of the wilder areas at Bywell. My garden isn’t fit for the camera 😂
@johnjones255828 күн бұрын
Cheers mate, but a fantastic review of an awesome gun.
@kbadvoc40129 күн бұрын
Heard they don't like 21gm loads, not resetting for the second shot.
@lloydyp28 күн бұрын
Never tried 21s through it, but I did try 24s and they worked fine.
@user-ug1hi8yc9dАй бұрын
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@ronaldjohnson1474Ай бұрын
Thanks for confirming my choices. The SP-V just isn't a justifiable gun for the money. Nice, but....
@funkla65Ай бұрын
Yep, towards the end the 11-87 morphed into the semi-auto counterpart to the utilitarian 870 Special Purpose and Express. The belle of the ball mantel shifted back to the 1100 as it persisted in the clay shooting roles, probably because its simpler gas system was satisfactory for target rounds. Lloyd, you ought to get a spacer and new pad fitted, so you can take the old girl out for a date once in a while. ;-) A nice thick Cervellati Microcell plus spacer might not even weigh more than the current pad.
@TheDoctor46526Ай бұрын
Can't decide on a dt11 or an f3.....32" adjustable comb Will use it for high bird game shooting too.... thoughts.?????
@lloydypАй бұрын
The DT11 is better value for money IMO. I love the way the F3 feels and handles, but the recent price increase is out of step with the market I think.
@philhodges823Ай бұрын
I shoot an ATA now, first gun £600 brand new, and it’s fine.but I’ve had it for 2 years now, and fancied an upgrade!! I saw this at the Doncaster show last year, liked the look of it, now someone who knows more than me about shotguns says it’s ‘interesting’, and was going to have a look at one on Tuesday, has made my interest levels increase 10 fold!!!
@davystella17 күн бұрын
Did you buy one and if so what do you think of it? I’ve just reserved one.
@philhodges82317 күн бұрын
@@davystella I did indeed!! Only used it twice, but I’m very happy so far with the results. Seems to be easier to keep the fun moving on those tricky right to left crossers!! I went for the 32’ barrels, my old ATA is only 30’, but as someone helpfully pointed out, I must be able to hit more, as I’m closer to the target!!😆😆😆
@davystella17 күн бұрын
@@philhodges823 great, thanks for taking the time to respond. I’m picking my 30” one up on Thursday 👍
@philhodges82317 күн бұрын
@@davystella .. No worries. Let me know how you get on with it.👍👍
@andycarless9069Ай бұрын
A couple of lads on our local shoot have just purchased the ATA Pro and are happy as pig in S++t and the price point is good value for money !! i will purchase one as soon they will be available in 28" barrels 👍👍
@lloydypАй бұрын
🤮why?
@andycarless9069Ай бұрын
@@lloydyp All my other shot guns are 28" & that's what i'm used to & after 40 yrs of shooting not going to change.
@paulmitchell5324Ай бұрын
Nice review👏🏻 What kind are you shooting now, Lloyd?
@lloydypАй бұрын
Krieghoff.
@MJSIGNvinylsАй бұрын
What rods and gun clean kit do you use, most won’t let you go through the barrels as they have a handle or wide end that won’t pass, and what jag did you use? Cheers
@lloydypАй бұрын
I use a 2 piece aluminium rod that I have glued together so it's a 1 piece. I dont use a jag as they are utterly useless, I use 2x4 on an old retired payne gallway brush.
@simoncoulman6870Ай бұрын
Hi Loyd great review, I bought one as a winter gun a few months back, I’ve put a couple of thousand through it no issues other than catching the trigger release inadvertently a couple of times, the stock chokes don’t pattern well but with some beretta extended Mobil chokes works well, shooting towards the top of the local club shoot now with it, and leaving the beretta at home on occasions, I think that says enough to me about how good it is.
@lucianotavares3605Ай бұрын
Lloyd thanks for the video. I am very interested in the 694, however I am in doubt about a Rizzini S2000. Which one you would go for: 694 or S2000?
@lloydypАй бұрын
I have never tested the Rizzini so it's tough for me to comment here. I have asked, but I have yet to receive any test guns from Rizzini.
@SergeGagne-em4guАй бұрын
can we make a list of order regarding quality and durability with ata pro, browning cxs, beretta 686 and fabarm elos n2 rs?
@tomski0007Ай бұрын
Great review Mr. P looks a great bit of kit for the money. But no barrel selection does put me right off. Look forward to your next video.
@PaulOMalley-uw6gyАй бұрын
Good balanced review. Any sign of a ATA factory visit on the cards? Be interesting to see how they’re doing what they’re doing to see where the improvements are being made.
@lloydypАй бұрын
Getting someone to pay for that will be a struggle I think. Factory tour vids are a huge undertaking to produce.
@sofaluggerАй бұрын
Shot one last year at a `show` could,nt believe the price!! Got to be a belting buy 2nd hand! Was told there,s a Higher Grade one coming along?......
@piaggio780Ай бұрын
Hello Lloyd, Great review on this ATA…..I recently purchased a Kizilkaya RT25 (six weeks ago) from dealer here in the USA. Well, I am not too happy with the customer service at this end of this purchase. To be more specific the factory supplied chokes ( five furnished and one choke would not even screw in either barrel) and the removable trigger group which was virtually almost impossible to remove. I sent my gun to the importer in Texas and gave me a NEW set of chokes and resolved the trigger problem for the most part! Is it possible for you to get your hands on one of these guns and give an impartial review of it for any potential buyers of this model? Thank you, Mike P. (USA)
@lloydypАй бұрын
I think based on the pricing I’ve seen they will be too expensive for the uk market.
@ronknox8562Ай бұрын
Great reviews Loyd, im in two minds of what gun to buy, the ATA or the Yildiz, now that I'm old i need the lighter gun. Your advice would be very much appreciated.
@lloydypАй бұрын
Lighter than what? I could do with knowing what we need to aim for.
@fullchoke014 күн бұрын
If by yildiz you mean the pro? The yildiz is a far superior gun. An mx12 for peanuts
@kameltolba4578Ай бұрын
Hello, it was a great review. Is it suitable and hunting? Please let me know its price in euros
@pat199rick6Ай бұрын
I bought one last week from Roy Martin gunsmith. I've only just taken shooting up as a hobby, I hit the first clay with the first shot. (Shame about the rest). I thought the recoil was quite strong too, compared to my ATA SP.
@TMFShootingАй бұрын
Great Review Lloyd 💯 Thank you for Sharing 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
@borjastickАй бұрын
I was shooting Ball-Trap here in France last weekend and was with a young French chap who had a new ATA SP Laminate in black. Afterwards we had a look at each other's gun. I was mighty impressed with his gun and he was shooting very well with it. He said it cost him about 1000 euros and to me the quality of fit and finish were very high.
@jamesCook-ni6jdАй бұрын
As the Sole UK importer for this popular brand in the UK, I can confirm the Fixed stock option is £999.99 Inc Vat & The adjustable stock is £1099.99 Inc Vat! The underside of the action has been designed specifically to have a textured finish in order to resist any marks from general wear and tear that a championship sporting gun may endure on the clay shooting circuit. Shoot Well & Enjoy Folks
@lloydypАй бұрын
Sorry James, I could swear the RRP was 1200, even better value.
@mrdavidpollock20 күн бұрын
what is the warranty on it?
@cdsmith1990Ай бұрын
100% agree about the 'Hyundai' comparison, it's something I've been saying too. People still give ATA / Yildiz stick., but as long as they keep innovating and trying new things, they'll eventually get a really good foothold. The spring-loaded adjustable trigger is a great feature, for example. They just need to make sure their fit and finish is up to par..
@colinreid7305Ай бұрын
As always a great review . In australia the MIROKU MI38T30INV MK38 TRAP is arround $400 more and in my view a better gun with excellent parts availability ,It may be a Browning copy, but a decent copy in every way,
@lloydypАй бұрын
It's not really a copy of a Browning. Brownings are manufactured there in the same factory.
@parrisgeorge9708Ай бұрын
Thanks for the review Lloyd. The way the trigger adjusts reminded me of the Marocchi Conquista from a long time ago.
@kirkmoyes5743Ай бұрын
I have a Weatherby Orion 12 sporter that I bought 2 years ago and has proven to be an excellent gun. (made by ATA) it’s a nice gun and I shoot it well, but it IS a little more punchy than my daily which I attribute to stock dimensions as well as tighter bore on the barrels. I think I paid 900 US and it’s a lot of gun for the money
@FoxV16Ай бұрын
Ignore the Turkish manufacturers at your peril. You hit the nail on the head Lloyd. If ATA are Hyundai then Yildiz are Kia. They are making massive strides in modern guns in the same way the Spanish industry did in the 1930-1970s. Tried a Yildiz pro the other day for a laugh. Stopped laughing very quickly. Now actively looking for one as a second gun. Excellent, fair review as always. Never even thought about the detachable trigger until you said 😂 No reason accept for a bit of peacocking.
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God Bless America.
Any possibility to test a 32" inch Zoli?
* Nice looking gun, but I don't like the satanic symbols in the engraving.
That is a gorgeous gun. Just wish we had greater access to it in the USA.
In the market for a new gun to replace the sarasketa I've had for 30 years. This looks like a well priced all rounder.
Thanks Lloyd , in process of applying for licence and found this informative. I’ve learnt a lot from your content as well as the lanky southerner (Johnny I think his name is ) and the strange looking geezer from Oxford gun club. Can you suggest a good shooting ground in or near Cumbria? I want to do as you suggest and look for a fitted good first gun and instruction
Sorry George, I’m not familiar with any clubs in Cumbria off the top of my head. Best bet is probably to post on a forum or Facebook shooting group, however the quality of response you will get is unfortunately questionable.
What’s the big difference between the 1,3 and 5? also what ear in ear protection do you use ? Thanks
Wood grade and engraving. The higher grades are prettier and nicer finished. I use CENS proflex DX1. If you like you can get 15% off a set by using discount code LLOYD at checkout. 😎
@@lloydyp thank you very much !!’
If you don’t know “Perazzi”, you don’t know shotguns!
Так же присматриваюсь к этому оружию. У нас в России она стоит 157000₽
We make many of the weapons that you find good. Webley scott, which you think is British, is made in Turkey
Nobody thinks Webley and Scott are British guns.
I am not into guns but thoroughly enjoyed watching this series the level of craftmanship is incredible and those guns are simply works of art. The level of craftmanship that goes into them is truly amazing and it is clear these guys have a real passion for their work.
Thanks Gary.
Was that some marksmanship principles breathing there too?
Indeed it was.
Lloyd, how are you Tell me anestly what's your next shotgun 😅
Krieghoff.
@@lloydyp yesssss good for you👍
$4453. If we could get it in the states 😭
LUXUS Standard
Grease or oil I don’t care folks but you need to do it. Recently found tiny orange specks deep inside on the hinge pins. Broken clays obviously so don’t assume it never happens clean and lube your guns you paid hard earned money for them.
It's amazing to me that high end shotguns, 10-12K and up come with very poor wood most of the time. Kolar, by far, uses the nicest wood. I really think certain manufactuers would sell far more guns if they were not so damn cheap on the wood. A guy wants his high end gun to look fabulous. Much of the engraving is over way done. Then they put a damn fence post on a 10K and up shotgun, often 12-15K guns have mediocre wood at best. I have a K80 and paid a lot extra for nicer wood. That gun was far more than 15K.
Am i right in saying the 31" models DON'T have the option to fit barrel weights?
I dont know offhand without checking, but you can check the GMK or Beretta website.
Que un profesional como tu no sepa dónde se engrasan las armas me sorprende,porque dejas de hacerlo en uno de los sitios más importantes, que es en donde el arma realiza el cierre, que es donde, en caso de la perazzi entran los muñones ,es decir la parte trasera del cañón donde se realiza el cierre al entrar la llamada H. Si no se hace, en poco tiempo la palanca de apertura se sitúa en el centro debido al desgaste del cierre, y en ese caso habrá que proceder al cambio de la pieza denominada H. Saludos.
Do you say “mark” for the second bird? I can’t quite work it out. I always thought they were just on report🤷🏼♂️
I imagine the internals of the action (hammers, inertia block, etc) just get some machine oil once a year?
Unless it gets wet, I never take my stock off. It gets lubed when it gets serviced.
Miroku factory tour, please?
Love to. I just need to find 10 grand to pay for the trip.
Lloyd, looks like your garden has'nt had your attention either. 😮
That’s one of the wilder areas at Bywell. My garden isn’t fit for the camera 😂
Cheers mate, but a fantastic review of an awesome gun.
Heard they don't like 21gm loads, not resetting for the second shot.
Never tried 21s through it, but I did try 24s and they worked fine.
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Thanks for confirming my choices. The SP-V just isn't a justifiable gun for the money. Nice, but....
Yep, towards the end the 11-87 morphed into the semi-auto counterpart to the utilitarian 870 Special Purpose and Express. The belle of the ball mantel shifted back to the 1100 as it persisted in the clay shooting roles, probably because its simpler gas system was satisfactory for target rounds. Lloyd, you ought to get a spacer and new pad fitted, so you can take the old girl out for a date once in a while. ;-) A nice thick Cervellati Microcell plus spacer might not even weigh more than the current pad.
Can't decide on a dt11 or an f3.....32" adjustable comb Will use it for high bird game shooting too.... thoughts.?????
The DT11 is better value for money IMO. I love the way the F3 feels and handles, but the recent price increase is out of step with the market I think.
I shoot an ATA now, first gun £600 brand new, and it’s fine.but I’ve had it for 2 years now, and fancied an upgrade!! I saw this at the Doncaster show last year, liked the look of it, now someone who knows more than me about shotguns says it’s ‘interesting’, and was going to have a look at one on Tuesday, has made my interest levels increase 10 fold!!!
Did you buy one and if so what do you think of it? I’ve just reserved one.
@@davystella I did indeed!! Only used it twice, but I’m very happy so far with the results. Seems to be easier to keep the fun moving on those tricky right to left crossers!! I went for the 32’ barrels, my old ATA is only 30’, but as someone helpfully pointed out, I must be able to hit more, as I’m closer to the target!!😆😆😆
@@philhodges823 great, thanks for taking the time to respond. I’m picking my 30” one up on Thursday 👍
@@davystella .. No worries. Let me know how you get on with it.👍👍
A couple of lads on our local shoot have just purchased the ATA Pro and are happy as pig in S++t and the price point is good value for money !! i will purchase one as soon they will be available in 28" barrels 👍👍
🤮why?
@@lloydyp All my other shot guns are 28" & that's what i'm used to & after 40 yrs of shooting not going to change.
Nice review👏🏻 What kind are you shooting now, Lloyd?
Krieghoff.
What rods and gun clean kit do you use, most won’t let you go through the barrels as they have a handle or wide end that won’t pass, and what jag did you use? Cheers
I use a 2 piece aluminium rod that I have glued together so it's a 1 piece. I dont use a jag as they are utterly useless, I use 2x4 on an old retired payne gallway brush.
Hi Loyd great review, I bought one as a winter gun a few months back, I’ve put a couple of thousand through it no issues other than catching the trigger release inadvertently a couple of times, the stock chokes don’t pattern well but with some beretta extended Mobil chokes works well, shooting towards the top of the local club shoot now with it, and leaving the beretta at home on occasions, I think that says enough to me about how good it is.
Lloyd thanks for the video. I am very interested in the 694, however I am in doubt about a Rizzini S2000. Which one you would go for: 694 or S2000?
I have never tested the Rizzini so it's tough for me to comment here. I have asked, but I have yet to receive any test guns from Rizzini.
can we make a list of order regarding quality and durability with ata pro, browning cxs, beretta 686 and fabarm elos n2 rs?
Great review Mr. P looks a great bit of kit for the money. But no barrel selection does put me right off. Look forward to your next video.
Good balanced review. Any sign of a ATA factory visit on the cards? Be interesting to see how they’re doing what they’re doing to see where the improvements are being made.
Getting someone to pay for that will be a struggle I think. Factory tour vids are a huge undertaking to produce.
Shot one last year at a `show` could,nt believe the price!! Got to be a belting buy 2nd hand! Was told there,s a Higher Grade one coming along?......
Hello Lloyd, Great review on this ATA…..I recently purchased a Kizilkaya RT25 (six weeks ago) from dealer here in the USA. Well, I am not too happy with the customer service at this end of this purchase. To be more specific the factory supplied chokes ( five furnished and one choke would not even screw in either barrel) and the removable trigger group which was virtually almost impossible to remove. I sent my gun to the importer in Texas and gave me a NEW set of chokes and resolved the trigger problem for the most part! Is it possible for you to get your hands on one of these guns and give an impartial review of it for any potential buyers of this model? Thank you, Mike P. (USA)
I think based on the pricing I’ve seen they will be too expensive for the uk market.
Great reviews Loyd, im in two minds of what gun to buy, the ATA or the Yildiz, now that I'm old i need the lighter gun. Your advice would be very much appreciated.
Lighter than what? I could do with knowing what we need to aim for.
If by yildiz you mean the pro? The yildiz is a far superior gun. An mx12 for peanuts
Hello, it was a great review. Is it suitable and hunting? Please let me know its price in euros
I bought one last week from Roy Martin gunsmith. I've only just taken shooting up as a hobby, I hit the first clay with the first shot. (Shame about the rest). I thought the recoil was quite strong too, compared to my ATA SP.
Great Review Lloyd 💯 Thank you for Sharing 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
I was shooting Ball-Trap here in France last weekend and was with a young French chap who had a new ATA SP Laminate in black. Afterwards we had a look at each other's gun. I was mighty impressed with his gun and he was shooting very well with it. He said it cost him about 1000 euros and to me the quality of fit and finish were very high.
As the Sole UK importer for this popular brand in the UK, I can confirm the Fixed stock option is £999.99 Inc Vat & The adjustable stock is £1099.99 Inc Vat! The underside of the action has been designed specifically to have a textured finish in order to resist any marks from general wear and tear that a championship sporting gun may endure on the clay shooting circuit. Shoot Well & Enjoy Folks
Sorry James, I could swear the RRP was 1200, even better value.
what is the warranty on it?
100% agree about the 'Hyundai' comparison, it's something I've been saying too. People still give ATA / Yildiz stick., but as long as they keep innovating and trying new things, they'll eventually get a really good foothold. The spring-loaded adjustable trigger is a great feature, for example. They just need to make sure their fit and finish is up to par..
As always a great review . In australia the MIROKU MI38T30INV MK38 TRAP is arround $400 more and in my view a better gun with excellent parts availability ,It may be a Browning copy, but a decent copy in every way,
It's not really a copy of a Browning. Brownings are manufactured there in the same factory.
Thanks for the review Lloyd. The way the trigger adjusts reminded me of the Marocchi Conquista from a long time ago.
I have a Weatherby Orion 12 sporter that I bought 2 years ago and has proven to be an excellent gun. (made by ATA) it’s a nice gun and I shoot it well, but it IS a little more punchy than my daily which I attribute to stock dimensions as well as tighter bore on the barrels. I think I paid 900 US and it’s a lot of gun for the money
Ignore the Turkish manufacturers at your peril. You hit the nail on the head Lloyd. If ATA are Hyundai then Yildiz are Kia. They are making massive strides in modern guns in the same way the Spanish industry did in the 1930-1970s. Tried a Yildiz pro the other day for a laugh. Stopped laughing very quickly. Now actively looking for one as a second gun. Excellent, fair review as always. Never even thought about the detachable trigger until you said 😂 No reason accept for a bit of peacocking.