I don't think there has ever been good evidence that there was a plan for the Trilogy from the beginning. Abrams and Kasden are photographed writing the movie during principal photography, they had an incredibly difficult time writing it, and George Lucas left part of the way through Pre-production. It is unlikely that they also had ideas for the other movies because: a) JJ Abrams wasn't directing those movies and didn't want to interfere creatively. b) Rian Johnson says that Abrams didn't have any guidelines other than Rey's parents would not be revealed. He could do whatever he wanted like: Ruin Luke Skywalker, kill Supreme Leader Snoke and barely move the plot along. c) Colin Trevorrow says that nothing was told to him as far as plot goes. He's ultimately fired for failing to deliver an adequate script. It's quite clear that Rey's parentage is a marketing gimmick to get people to come see all 3 movies for the answer. It's also clear she was meant to be the Daughter of Han Solo and Leia, but Carrie Fisher dying resulted in them having to change. If she was the daughter of 2 random people we have never seen before they could have shown their faces in the first movie. JJ Abrams was under pressure from Disney who needed to make back $4 billion dollars, and he used a cheap television gimmick to get people coming back for answers. The ultimate irony is that even if Rey was Han and Leia's daughter, the reveal in the last movie of the trilogy would also have been criticized for not having been worth the wait.
@ironhead63572 сағат бұрын
I loved Transformers Armada. It was... my first venture into Transformers. Highly recommend watching it, its a pretty cool show. Also, bro, you need to look at the Broken Mirror comics, where autobots and cons roles are swapped.
@folk.5 сағат бұрын
Just saw it again. Wasn't as bad as every one want it to be. Just entertainment. Kept me entertained for two hours.
@akted90768 сағат бұрын
The bumblebee slander will not stand, I’ll remember this
@behindthespotlight79839 сағат бұрын
I was on On Set Dresser for years in Hollywood. On Sets deal with set continuity alongside Script Supervisors. One thing this video forgot to mention (although the excellent distinctions re: light came close) is that sets and locations will always be filmed through air. Air is full of microscopic particles that, themselves, bounce light. Like the “micro-poof” of dust as an actor sits on a sofa or rolls over on bedding. The stage dust that eddies around the grid, 15 feet above the set where the lights hang. All of this combines to the human eye (the ultimate in camera technology) to create a warmth that digital will likely never overcome.
@Professionaltroll6910 сағат бұрын
Its not that bad for its time compared to spider man 1 for example
@williamwofford250310 сағат бұрын
Star wars Died when Harrison Ford (Han Solo ) allowed his own kid to kill him and they knew that had screwed the pooch and attempted a course correct with SOLO which was blah
@bobmorr289213 сағат бұрын
We know how bad movies are made we saw the prequels and how George Lucas ruined them.
@friedewald2414 сағат бұрын
This reminds me of the video:"Were the Empire right?"
@derekh451114 сағат бұрын
I maybe have to rewatch TROS, soo much I forgot. I really, really found it a mess and incredibly stupid.
@_swordfern16 сағат бұрын
Imagine the healthcare systems to support this variety..
@sluminous20317 сағат бұрын
6:30 One super interesting thing to me is the seeming lack of “humanization” tools that arent just human translation like we musicians got in the digital age. There are various DAW plugins that can take a MIDI instrument and seed randomize things like velocity and frequency of notes and reverberation effects that are programmed to simulate the acoustics of a real room. These are all things you can program easily and it feels like stopping mid transition between key frames a few times at random and then deciding whether or not to twitch followed randomly determining the the degree of said twitch within reason could help add to cgi movement.
@Beneko11-217 сағат бұрын
You convinced me; that is wild
@overwhelmedbyitall1961Күн бұрын
Jesus the barricade 'to punish and enslave' that's so based like maybe they were trying to make fun of the deceptions but it totally reads as accurate policing
@cupidstunt22Күн бұрын
This was not as bad as the last jedi
@traveller2378Күн бұрын
You talk too much.
@samrudhnayak6482Күн бұрын
Holy fucking shit! This completely changes how I see Transformers films
@stevenzepeda5930Күн бұрын
that intro was so out of nowhere and hilaroius
@muserweaverКүн бұрын
Attack of the Clones...tamp
@DardS8BrКүн бұрын
The opening scene for Revenge of the Sith, the Battle of Coruscant, is still one of the most incredible VFX scenes ever
@DrippyWafflerКүн бұрын
That wrinkle "introduced" by Abrams about the apprentice getting overtaken by the master was introduced BY the sith who invented the rule of two. Darth Bane learns it to get into the body of Darth Jannah. It was the one bit that was actually consistent in the film with the old lore!
@pharaohbubbles1547Күн бұрын
As strange as it is to say, I kinda down wish they continued they (more than like garbage) 6th movie
@darger3Күн бұрын
This is a great deep dive. Particularly for such a small channel. Is this a second channel?
@thomaslemos2240Күн бұрын
That intro always catches me off guard and I’m always coming back to watch it, good stuff bro
@CharlieMagniКүн бұрын
Decepticon propaganda in cybertron
@Jazzy--Күн бұрын
I think this is a cool way of asking "If soldiers were clothed in rainbow clothing while killing targets, would you take them for the evil guys?"
@TalonAshlarКүн бұрын
Froce bonds exist in the expanded universe so i have no idea why they had to call it a force dyad...
@TobermoryIscarabaidXКүн бұрын
colin trevorrow’s version sounded better.
@TobermoryIscarabaidXКүн бұрын
Even the earlier drafts of JJ’s sound at least a little better.
@ryanmatthews36092 күн бұрын
2:02 beast wars is far more superior then transformers will ever be.
@changbarry23042 күн бұрын
as a loyal star wars fan for 30 years, this is the first time i watch the rise of skywalker. when 8 came out im already disapointing, 9 never wanna face it
@Other_Robots2 күн бұрын
Thats the difference between a funny bad movie and one of those “purposefully bad meme movies”: a funny bad movie is one that tries in earnest to be good but fails due to incompetence, meanwhile making a movie “bad on purpose” can takes away that fun. Like a movie like cocaine bear tries too hard to be a bad B movie based thats intended to be a meme and people can pick up on that disingenuousness. Also making a movie “bad on purpose” is such a lazy cop out because when the movie fails the creators can just say that was on purpose
@liquidmark50812 күн бұрын
This video is funded by the decepticons for Congress pac
@BV-jq2vg2 күн бұрын
My biggest complaint is still that they just did a terrible job but Rey’s character. Stick a random girl in a masculinity storyline, don’t explain who she is even though you’re in a story spanning decades where everyone is explained, jump straight to action, turns out by the end she’s the main antagonist’s grand daughter but we never learn how that happened. Disney just sucks at character building which is why they rely on buying huge existing storylines, plugging in their standard ratios of comedy:drama:action:LGBT diversity, and abandoning the fanbase.
@LcfcJayy2 күн бұрын
Dark of the Moon was 🤌🏻🤌🏻
@Godeau032 күн бұрын
im convinced
@TripleA3322 күн бұрын
Ill take "robots beating the absolute crap out of each other" anytime honestly
@d3nza4822 күн бұрын
So much information. So little value.
@desmondscott28822 күн бұрын
09:08 Hell yeah, Yoda hits the gym.
@debbiegilmour61712 күн бұрын
The thing about most star wars aliens is that it's painfully obvious they were designed to be played by a person in a suit
@PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool2 күн бұрын
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. - Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. - John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. - Acts 3:19 If you’re in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna, Urcna, or a Canrc church (These are conservative and actual Presbyterian/reformed churches) If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms Lutheran church. If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC (Different from the Church of Scotland) If you’re English I recommend the Evangelical Presbyterian Church in England & Wales and the Free Church of England (Different from the Church of England) Also online you can look up church finders for each of the groups, it will show you locations. And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near. - Hebrews 10:24-25
@PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool2 күн бұрын
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. - Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. - John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. - Acts 3:19 If you’re in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna, Urcna, or a Canrc church (These are conservative and actual Presbyterian/Reformed churches) If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms Lutheran church. If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC (Different from the Church of Scotland) If you’re English I recommend the Evangelical Presbyterian Church in England & Wales and the Free Church of England (Different from the Church of England) Also online you can look up church finders for each of the groups, it will show you locations. And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near. -Hebrews 10:24-25
@joringedamke55972 күн бұрын
I find it curious that I remember the film's visuals more than its dialog. Almost as if more attention was spent on the former. Has anyone noticed the same thing?
@FredSlocombe2 күн бұрын
I only suspend disbelief, so I ignore the limitations of the special effects. If the plot is good enough, like most Doctor Who episodes, I give the attempt at special effects a pass.
@IndigoSpaceman2 күн бұрын
After watching each of the last three movies I was left “thinking what just happened” and wondering if I missed something. So I decided to look up what happened only to learn I didn’t miss anything and it’s all confusing. 😢🤔
@aqwaa30572 күн бұрын
What a masterpiece of a video. This guy really just made me look at the decepticons as bad and the autobots as even worse.
@AC-hj9tv3 күн бұрын
More like Skywanker am i rite
@Kuroth_3 күн бұрын
This channel deserves to blow up (in a good way), looking forward to you hitting over 100k subscribers! Someone talking this passionately about Star Wars takes me back to high school, and makes me reconsider certain aspects of the sequels in a less entirely negative light. Keep it up!
@FatGuyInSpace3 күн бұрын
This channel kicks absolute ass, i come specifically looking for this channel whenever i feel the vibe to just sit back and listen to the chill thorough analysis on the star wars content.
@Poochie_3 күн бұрын
This is my religion now
@corpse6663 күн бұрын
Seriously the original idea wasn't great, nowhere near great, but it was way better that what we actually got. If they had just trusted the original writer we could've had a rather nice story
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I don't think there has ever been good evidence that there was a plan for the Trilogy from the beginning. Abrams and Kasden are photographed writing the movie during principal photography, they had an incredibly difficult time writing it, and George Lucas left part of the way through Pre-production. It is unlikely that they also had ideas for the other movies because: a) JJ Abrams wasn't directing those movies and didn't want to interfere creatively. b) Rian Johnson says that Abrams didn't have any guidelines other than Rey's parents would not be revealed. He could do whatever he wanted like: Ruin Luke Skywalker, kill Supreme Leader Snoke and barely move the plot along. c) Colin Trevorrow says that nothing was told to him as far as plot goes. He's ultimately fired for failing to deliver an adequate script. It's quite clear that Rey's parentage is a marketing gimmick to get people to come see all 3 movies for the answer. It's also clear she was meant to be the Daughter of Han Solo and Leia, but Carrie Fisher dying resulted in them having to change. If she was the daughter of 2 random people we have never seen before they could have shown their faces in the first movie. JJ Abrams was under pressure from Disney who needed to make back $4 billion dollars, and he used a cheap television gimmick to get people coming back for answers. The ultimate irony is that even if Rey was Han and Leia's daughter, the reveal in the last movie of the trilogy would also have been criticized for not having been worth the wait.
I loved Transformers Armada. It was... my first venture into Transformers. Highly recommend watching it, its a pretty cool show. Also, bro, you need to look at the Broken Mirror comics, where autobots and cons roles are swapped.
Just saw it again. Wasn't as bad as every one want it to be. Just entertainment. Kept me entertained for two hours.
The bumblebee slander will not stand, I’ll remember this
I was on On Set Dresser for years in Hollywood. On Sets deal with set continuity alongside Script Supervisors. One thing this video forgot to mention (although the excellent distinctions re: light came close) is that sets and locations will always be filmed through air. Air is full of microscopic particles that, themselves, bounce light. Like the “micro-poof” of dust as an actor sits on a sofa or rolls over on bedding. The stage dust that eddies around the grid, 15 feet above the set where the lights hang. All of this combines to the human eye (the ultimate in camera technology) to create a warmth that digital will likely never overcome.
Its not that bad for its time compared to spider man 1 for example
Star wars Died when Harrison Ford (Han Solo ) allowed his own kid to kill him and they knew that had screwed the pooch and attempted a course correct with SOLO which was blah
We know how bad movies are made we saw the prequels and how George Lucas ruined them.
This reminds me of the video:"Were the Empire right?"
I maybe have to rewatch TROS, soo much I forgot. I really, really found it a mess and incredibly stupid.
Imagine the healthcare systems to support this variety..
6:30 One super interesting thing to me is the seeming lack of “humanization” tools that arent just human translation like we musicians got in the digital age. There are various DAW plugins that can take a MIDI instrument and seed randomize things like velocity and frequency of notes and reverberation effects that are programmed to simulate the acoustics of a real room. These are all things you can program easily and it feels like stopping mid transition between key frames a few times at random and then deciding whether or not to twitch followed randomly determining the the degree of said twitch within reason could help add to cgi movement.
You convinced me; that is wild
Jesus the barricade 'to punish and enslave' that's so based like maybe they were trying to make fun of the deceptions but it totally reads as accurate policing
This was not as bad as the last jedi
You talk too much.
Holy fucking shit! This completely changes how I see Transformers films
that intro was so out of nowhere and hilaroius
Attack of the Clones...tamp
The opening scene for Revenge of the Sith, the Battle of Coruscant, is still one of the most incredible VFX scenes ever
That wrinkle "introduced" by Abrams about the apprentice getting overtaken by the master was introduced BY the sith who invented the rule of two. Darth Bane learns it to get into the body of Darth Jannah. It was the one bit that was actually consistent in the film with the old lore!
As strange as it is to say, I kinda down wish they continued they (more than like garbage) 6th movie
This is a great deep dive. Particularly for such a small channel. Is this a second channel?
That intro always catches me off guard and I’m always coming back to watch it, good stuff bro
Decepticon propaganda in cybertron
I think this is a cool way of asking "If soldiers were clothed in rainbow clothing while killing targets, would you take them for the evil guys?"
Froce bonds exist in the expanded universe so i have no idea why they had to call it a force dyad...
colin trevorrow’s version sounded better.
Even the earlier drafts of JJ’s sound at least a little better.
2:02 beast wars is far more superior then transformers will ever be.
as a loyal star wars fan for 30 years, this is the first time i watch the rise of skywalker. when 8 came out im already disapointing, 9 never wanna face it
Thats the difference between a funny bad movie and one of those “purposefully bad meme movies”: a funny bad movie is one that tries in earnest to be good but fails due to incompetence, meanwhile making a movie “bad on purpose” can takes away that fun. Like a movie like cocaine bear tries too hard to be a bad B movie based thats intended to be a meme and people can pick up on that disingenuousness. Also making a movie “bad on purpose” is such a lazy cop out because when the movie fails the creators can just say that was on purpose
This video is funded by the decepticons for Congress pac
My biggest complaint is still that they just did a terrible job but Rey’s character. Stick a random girl in a masculinity storyline, don’t explain who she is even though you’re in a story spanning decades where everyone is explained, jump straight to action, turns out by the end she’s the main antagonist’s grand daughter but we never learn how that happened. Disney just sucks at character building which is why they rely on buying huge existing storylines, plugging in their standard ratios of comedy:drama:action:LGBT diversity, and abandoning the fanbase.
Dark of the Moon was 🤌🏻🤌🏻
im convinced
Ill take "robots beating the absolute crap out of each other" anytime honestly
So much information. So little value.
09:08 Hell yeah, Yoda hits the gym.
The thing about most star wars aliens is that it's painfully obvious they were designed to be played by a person in a suit
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. - Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. - John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. - Acts 3:19 If you’re in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna, Urcna, or a Canrc church (These are conservative and actual Presbyterian/reformed churches) If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms Lutheran church. If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC (Different from the Church of Scotland) If you’re English I recommend the Evangelical Presbyterian Church in England & Wales and the Free Church of England (Different from the Church of England) Also online you can look up church finders for each of the groups, it will show you locations. And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near. - Hebrews 10:24-25
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. - Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. - John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. - Acts 3:19 If you’re in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna, Urcna, or a Canrc church (These are conservative and actual Presbyterian/Reformed churches) If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms Lutheran church. If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC (Different from the Church of Scotland) If you’re English I recommend the Evangelical Presbyterian Church in England & Wales and the Free Church of England (Different from the Church of England) Also online you can look up church finders for each of the groups, it will show you locations. And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near. -Hebrews 10:24-25
I find it curious that I remember the film's visuals more than its dialog. Almost as if more attention was spent on the former. Has anyone noticed the same thing?
I only suspend disbelief, so I ignore the limitations of the special effects. If the plot is good enough, like most Doctor Who episodes, I give the attempt at special effects a pass.
After watching each of the last three movies I was left “thinking what just happened” and wondering if I missed something. So I decided to look up what happened only to learn I didn’t miss anything and it’s all confusing. 😢🤔
What a masterpiece of a video. This guy really just made me look at the decepticons as bad and the autobots as even worse.
More like Skywanker am i rite
This channel deserves to blow up (in a good way), looking forward to you hitting over 100k subscribers! Someone talking this passionately about Star Wars takes me back to high school, and makes me reconsider certain aspects of the sequels in a less entirely negative light. Keep it up!
This channel kicks absolute ass, i come specifically looking for this channel whenever i feel the vibe to just sit back and listen to the chill thorough analysis on the star wars content.
This is my religion now
Seriously the original idea wasn't great, nowhere near great, but it was way better that what we actually got. If they had just trusted the original writer we could've had a rather nice story