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Does Daz do anything that you can't do in Blender? I suspect the only advantage is that you get a few free models. Of course Blender has a full stereoscopic camera built in with the ability to set the convergence plane (stereo window).
Nice, didn't know that about the built-in S3D camera, iClone has that too. Basically, you can create characters with morphs sort of like Reallusion's Character Creator so you can export those from Daz to Blender. I haven't worked with Daz long enough to know if it's better, I personally just get along better with the interfaces that iClone and Daz have vs Blender.
still works, thanks a lot for enabling me to continue to stay dependant on this finicky software lol
I modified my driver to get 3d vision 2 running... So sad, that nvidia dropped 3d gaming.
Awesome! Have fun!
Is there a template to Use for Meta Quest II or III?. i asked because so far no software worked for me but only gave the movie depth but not 180 or 360 true VR
I'm not sure if depthmap 3D conversion is good enough for VR. There is a spheroid camera built into DaVinci to render 360. I think you just set the cameras to spheroid near the end of the flow before the render node.
@@WheatstoneHolmes thank You it funny though fish eye give it even more effect too
This is interesting! thanks!
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Finally, I just made my first post using this updated technique and sure enough, total success! I don't know if YT will let me link the video so I'll just drop the ID if you want to check out the result: cJVNduh3zHM Again, big thank you for pointing out the trick.
Looking forward to it
This is good. Im going to reboot my 3D channel soon with some new videos.
i got 3d vision discover glasses with my zotac 9800gt 1gb and i used to play Fo3 in Anaglyphic 3d, is that a setting in here?
I don't know if Geo-11 supports anaglyph yet.
work around, but still no solution. even on 21
I combine both depth maps from Owl3D and DaVinci Resolve Studio. Anaglyph looks fantastic on my 75" Roku Plus tv. My workflow used WheatstoneHolmes' first video along with additional nodes. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKx7ppiHl7vWl6g.html
Great job!
You're my only hope. I've searched all over. I bought a Qoocam ego. They just did a big update on software apparently and if you go to the site, they have standalone software to upload to KZread with proper Metadata. The software also has a convergence dial to manually adjust but I don't understand it. Can you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a video about this? I just want to use my new cam and know how to make simple 3d 180 video. I'm at a loss right now and sooo disappointed in how hard it is to find info/video on step by step. PLEEEEEASE help us
This video pops like crazy in 3-D
LOL! Yeah, the Qoocam EGO has a larger than normal separation between the lenses!
fantastic. thank you very much
Thank you!
The beefcake guy could definitely be Indy's Sallah on this particular adventure.
LOL
For me, first it renders out of sync and then for no reason the audio no longer works in the projects. any idea?
No, sorry. You might have to find answers on the Vegas forum?
I need to drop by here and say thanks: I had an old script that would run that very command, but originally stereo_mode was an enum, and left_right was actually 1. So all I had to do is modify that old script to specify left_right instead and voila, I should be gucci. I knew the solution would be simple and cryptic, just it took almost a year for me to find the solution, and it's actually you that found it, so thanks!
You are quite welcome!
really good 3D depth, which camera did you use to make this video?
Kandao QooCam EGO, but I recorded the audio on my PC separately because the audio from the EGO is not that good.
Oh dear lord not Vegas LOL This is getting annoying. Even the standard mp4 3D setting isn't getting picked up.
What other video editor would you suggest for S3D?
@@WheatstoneHolmes Premiere. I know Vegas has S3D features, but I would rather eat a chicken that's still alive, feathers, bones and guts included rather than ever use Vegas ever again. I will put up with a few nested sequences to accomplish stereo in favor of the world's worst piece of software all categories combined. Vegas is a heinous, detestable piece of garbage.
To expand on why Vegas gave me straight up PTSD: You know when it's rendering, and the background renderer crashes but the progress bar still looks like the software is alive and working? That, my friend, is detestable and has been a bug present since version 10. It still does it to me on 16 with my camcorder footage. Pair that with the years-behind GPU support, slow as hell rendering, incessant crashing and the fact I can render a 1440p HSBS full layered production in about half the video's duration in Premiere without crashing once... I am never going back.
@@Stereo3DProductions I hear you. I should try Premiere then, though I have Vegas 21 and it's pretty quick with my setup as long as I don't go higher than 4K.
So here's the thing... my recent 3D uploads (specifying Side by Side in Voukoder side options) have all been showing as plain side by side on desktop, while some don't even work correctly in the VR player (it's been hit and miss, especially on my second, smaller channel) ...my question to you: since your recent uploads all work perfectly on desktop with the anaglyph playback, what do you use to specify the Side-by-Side format? (ie what are you using to encode)
Vegas 18, 19, 20, 21 using the Sony MVC codec, I'll make a video showing exactly what I'm doing if you'd like.
The problem is KZread. Years ago you could select the format to play 3D video, now they don't give you any choice, so if you don't like anaglyph, you're screwed. It appears that 4K is not treated as 3D and not shown in anaglyph. That's fine with me, I don't like anaglyph and have ways to view half-width SBS.
They randomly change standards in the background without advising anyone. KZread never cared for anything besides planar 2D video; I made the call when they implemented 360 videos and said they would pull the rug on those faster than you could load your first video. Sure enough not only do they store the 360 in a cryptic nonstandard format but now they also broke their player for the Nteenth time.
I made and uploaded a YT3D test using your hawaiian shirt beefcake animation. Used my usual procedure for S3D videos. Tagged you on the upload. I don't know if it sent a notification since it's unlisted: qkJyGh4q0nI But none of the 4K S3D vids will properly display in browser (Chrome), on mobile, or in KZread VR on Quest. Your 1080p videos work properly everywhere.
Insane that only Vegas puts in the magic cryptic flag that youtube needs and nothing else currently does.
Yep, I tried all the browsers have installed and it's always SBS, thanks for trying. (I didn't know you had a Quest headset?)
@@WheatstoneHolmes Ooh, I guess this is the first you're hearing about that. The other guy in this thread sent me his Quest II after he fell in love with the Quest III. 😄
@@Eincrou Awesome!
@@WheatstoneHolmes I love how youtube just randomly invented a nonstandard stereo_mode value (it is supposed to be an enum which translates to int, and the value used to be 1)
Nice job bro
Thanks!
Interesting, it's being shown in half-width SBS. Yesterday and before 3D videos would have been anaglyph. One change is that I linked my KZread account with the app on my Quest 3. Wonder if that is why, of did it change for everyone, or is it because this one is 4K? Or... is the metadata missing from the video? I would prefer SBS because that will work on 3D TVs in full screen mode.
No it was me, I didn't have the correct metadata. (I also just noticed that my "Status" video was reverse 3D, oops!)
The left and right has been swapped? I guess users can flip their anaglyph glasses. :)
Yes. That's weird. I have to flip my red/cyan glasses so the legs of the glasses stick out.😞
@@Wijo_Koek Sorry, my mistake
This should've worked. Hmmmm....
I'm going to try again with a different metadata injection
It only shows it to me as anaglyph on my PC using Chrome browser. It should offer the option of side-by-side so you could make it full screen to view in 3D on TVs, but it doesn't. Don't like anaglyph. I can download your video and it is saved as half-width SBS, then I can view it on other media in 3D.
I'm using MS Edge and I see it as anaglyph, when YT used Flash they gave viewers all kind of S3D options, even interlace and checkerboard. When they went to HTML 5 it dropped all but anaglyph.
@@WheatstoneHolmes It's showing in anaglyph in Firefox as well... this works so rarely with my posts now that I thought they had outright dropped the feature on desktop altogether.
I wish I could get as excited about KZread 3D as this dancing hooligan. The situation is grim. At least this video works properly.
I noticed that @cyberreality ('s) latest video was working correctly so I uploaded this to test YT. I'm working on a 3D animated show and hoep to have it ready soon!
Im not sure why you're crapping on the last attempt, I've had to refer back to that video at least 20 times to make my home movies into VR content . The only thing I changed was I cut the subject(s) out of the background. Then I projected the background and map it using the method below (*sometimes in tight shots I need to piece together a background or completely fabricate one .) Copy it cut the background out so its just the subject this time and boom I use your method on both of them , line them up and we have vr . I used this method kzread.info/dash/bejne/eKJ1zKt9k63KmLA.htmlsi=mSQPlZ2C2C5XQL9n
Cool. Blender and Mixamo? What aspect of KZread 3D are you testing? 3D on KZread is almost useless because it only gives two options: 2D or anaglyph. Who thought that was okay? They decided people would be too confused if given even one more format. If half-width side-by-side were available in full screen, then you could use it on a wide variety of displays, like most 3D tvs. Ironically, if you download the video it is in half-width SBS, so I guess they want people to download?
It was made with iClone 8 and Mixamo for the motion. KZread's system for 3D was broken for a while and showed 3D videos as side-by-side (if uploaded in that format). Now it's back to the way they had it before where if I upload as SBS it shows up as anaglyph on PC/Tablet/Smartphones and full-color (normal) 3D on Meta VR headsets. As you stated above, anaglyph is arguably not the best choice. When YT ran on Flash they let you choose SBS, TB, Interlaced, Checkerboard and various anaglyph formats.
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Good tips thanks
Thanks!
This doesn't work well at all for me. It's either in 3D a little bit and super distorted or you can't notice the 3D effect at all. For anaglyph, I think what you want to do is split the channels to R, G, and B, then displace the R and B channels separately with the depth map/displacement maps. I would have to play with it, but that at least seems like there would be more control there.
I'll look at that, thanks!
It's insane but apparently Vegas 21 still has that same crash issue!!! From what I understand when you "render" the software is trying to phone in to the mothership before bringing that window...for some strange reason, no idea why that should be in the design but I wouldn't be surprised if that is causing it on media heavy projects. Thank you - that tip worked!!!
Awesome!
Is it also possible in DVR 18 to export for an active shutter 3D system?
An active shutter 3D system such as a TV or projector usually supports side-by-side or top-bottom 3D formats so if you render your final video in one of those formats from DVR it should work fine. In this video I go show the formats: kzread.info/dash/bejne/godhm9aBkpnHpdo.html
nope it crashed, i was using intel cpu last time and it was fine now i have amd and its crashing
All I wanted to do was take a 2D image + depth map to get an SBS image! Heck, I guess I will have to try to make my own software for doing that!
Try my other video, it might give you better results. kzread.info/dash/bejne/godhm9aBkpnHpdo.html
I personally like the DaVinci/Fusion method better for more manual control but if you want fast easy results, try Owl3D. To my eyes, Owl3D's AI creates better depth maps than Resolve.
Would u be able to add disparity for pop out purposes say for bigscreen VR cinema experience? I know there is a disparity mode but how exactly would I set it up in unison with this mode map uve created? I know other standalone programs use disparity to increase popout of foreground I assume u can do the same with this since the disparity node exists and also uses the depthmap
Like yourself, I know disparity exists, but I have no experience with using it, sorry. It sounds plausible though.
Hi, I used this method to try and convert an 'old' movie from 2D to 3D. Or rather, from your older video, with the Camera3D still in it. First try didn't give a good result, but when I found out what I did wrong, the 2nd try was much better. Although it is servicable, it could still be better. Because of the extrusion of the imageplane, you obviously will end up with warping around the '3D' parts, especially the harder you want to make things pop. So I was thinking of creating 'layers', with different Depth Map settings. So for example, one for things in the back, one for the main subjects in the movie and one for some elements in the foreground (maybe even 4 'layers'). As I'm not yet too familiar with Davinci Resolve beyond basic editing, I was wondering if you could help me figure out how to do some things I want to do: - From a MediaIn, I want to use a Depth Map by using the 'Isolate' settings, to use as a mask for a certain level of depth: so 1 for the background, one for the main subjects (where the focus of the movie is) and one for stuff in the foreground. So each of them probably needs its own Imageplane? So I can offset them a bit in 3D space. Although at the moment, I only seem to get 1 Imageplane in view. - I want to use these Depth Maps to mask another Depth Map, whereby the settings are specifically set for that 'layer'. So for example, for the 'background' Imageplane I can set values more extreme to get a 3D "pop" in there, without having to worry that the main subjects are extruded (and thus deforming) too much. Same for the other 'layers'. So each 'layer' would also have its own Displace. - Can 1 MediaIn go into several nodes, or do I have to keep copying a new MediaIn? So how would that look like, using the setup like in this video (or better yet, your older video with the Camera3D)? I think I'm combining in the wrong order and/or attaching to the wrong input/outputs.
Good idea, you would probably need to make many copies of MediaIn. Like I said, I don't know what I'm doing, I haven't used DR for very long. I'll see if I can stumble upon a better solution.
@@WheatstoneHolmes Well, I'm willing to experiment and try it all myself. But as my Davinci Resolve knowledge isn't that great. I don't even know what color stands for which with the nodes. Just that blue is the alpha channel. so the mask would need to be pinned in there. But as its not working at the moment, I'm probably pulling out other information instead of the 'mask'. I know I'm close though, I'm just fumbling somewhere. I have a feeling I'm doing just a thing or 2 wrong, which prevent me for pulling it off. I know I could use MagicMask aswell to cut out the main subjects, but that still involves some manual selection each shot. It's better to have most things automated and then some manual work to touch up. Btw, do you know the difference between a Imageplane node and a bitmap node? As I've seen soms tutorials using a bitmap node to mask, or something. Edit: Ok, got a bit further and was able to finally mask out the porion I needed, with a DepthMask. Don't know if it is the correct way of doing it, but it's progress nonetheless.
Currently discovered that if I mask the MediaIn first, then everything masked automatically becomes white in the following DepthMap, which actually hinders of getting a decent 3D pop from what was cut out. So I need to first make the 3D pop and apply a 'mask' afterwards. That's the part I'm trying to figure out now. Also seems, because of the offset between the 2 camera's, I'm seeing the openings aswel. I don't know if Fusion has some 'inpainting' aswell?
@@eyeemotion1426 hover your mouse over the node input/output colors and it should pop up a label telling you what the color means. Good luck!
@@WheatstoneHolmes With my limited knowledge in Davinci Resolve, I was finally able to get it 'working'. It works, but it also doesn't. For a still frame, it would be sufficient what I have now. But as the nature of video, it falls apart when things start moving. A whole slew of new problems arise, as characters change in and out of different depths and such. So it's back to the 'drawing board' and further refine what I already have working. Because I still think I'm on the right track. But I think it's going to get more elaborate as I'm going. Alteast it's a good way to learn Davinci Resolve more than just editing and rendering with it. Do you by any chance now how to some in-painting/content aware fill in Fusion? I tried it with CleanPlate, but that doesn't give any satisfactory result. I need something for the background layer, to fill in the gaps that were cut, because with stereoscopy, you'll see those gaps.
Thanks again for this - I'll be trying it!
To fix the black bars you have to go into the project settings and adjust the dimensions from there as well as when you build it. This took me way to long to figure out lol
Thanks!
Nice doing this in 3D.
Unfortunately my mom isnt here watching this 3D. The 3D in your introduction was AMAZING. I have no idea how you pulled that off. Sadly the GOW game captures didnt look so hot on my TV. It was back then so its understandable i always am happy to binge your stuff when i have time ❤
Thanks! Yeah, the GOW 3D wasn't great in general, it looked like it was depthmap based 3D while playing it.
Works with 2 insta360 x3?
I don't know for sure but if two of them can be used with OBS it could work. Here is a link I found for getting the camera set up: www.guidingtech.com/how-to-use-insta360-x3-as-webcam/
You should also be able to output custom dimensions of 3840x1080 for full side-by-side. I just made a short video of stereoscopic animations rendered from blender as 3840x1080 (1920x1080 side-by-side), simply output as same format.
Great Video, A lot Easier to follow, I have tested a lot of the so called 2d to 3d (SBS) convertors but they leave a lot to be desired to be honest. At least this workflow allows you more control. Cheers.
Thank you! I was thinking maybe one could render the depthmap only as a video and then paint more details in using Photoshop or the like, bring that edited depthmap video back into DR and use THAT as input to the Displace3D!
Everyone uses OWL3D but I think it's awesome your experimenting I'm a proud subscriber
It would be interesting to see a comparison between this and Owl3D, such as payments, depth map accuracy, and ease of use (which, of course, Owl3D wins, but at what cost or compression)
I can't find any details on Owl3D regarding price. But I haven't downloaded it to try it yet. On the video demo it looks very similar to DR+depthmap. Owl3D looks like it will have more options for output, such as VR, etc. and will be easier to use. DR Studio version cost $295(US) or is included free with BlackMagic cameras.
@@WheatstoneHolmes Once installed, select Upgrade top left and it will show you the prices and features of the Starter v. Plus v. Pro plans. Also worth noting, the Free Starter version limits output to 1080p and only 1 minute video length.
nope, in fact i was testing with media generator things