4:00 Neither the Babylonian nor Hebrew calendar _day_ began at sunset. The Crescent was _observed_ at Sunset. And _day_ begins at sunrise morning. _Night_ is not _day_ . The Sun (sunset and sunrise) separates _day_ from _night_ . Likewise, Sabbath was observed at sunset, but _day_ always follows morning. Read Genesis 1 carefully, without traditional assumptions, any translation.
@thedisciplestable5215Күн бұрын
@@familyshare3724 This article might be useful for others seeking more information. www.rabbinicalassembly.org/sites/default/files/public/resources-ideas/cj/classics/11-29-11-calendar/counting-day-night.pdf
@familyshare3724Күн бұрын
No. Preparation is the 14th day. Lamb sacrifice before sunset. Passover at night. The morning is Sabbath day 15. Day is separate from night! Night is not day.
@thedisciplestable521521 сағат бұрын
@@familyshare3724 We agree.
@Alo-cj1eu8 күн бұрын
The Virgin Birth is in beginning the Torah. The first letter can be translated as Daughter. The first and 6th letter can be translated as Daughter. BRASHIT can also be translated as 2 Kingdoms, and Rashi as a King. The Daughter has a Rashi in her womb. Where's the Father of the King in the Daughter's womb? The invisible Aleph.
@Thesmokymountainman8 күн бұрын
Some deep teachings here. Will probably have to watch a few times to take it all in. Thank you for this. I have some videos that teach the names and meanings of Genesis 4 it’s an incredible prophecy foretold. I also have some on Days of Noah and the Typology involved that I haven’t heard anywhere else. I have several typology studies over Genesis subjects that you might find as new info. All short studies. Sharing what I see but in a different way. God Bless
@thedisciplestable52158 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching. Yes, there is a lot of content in this one video. We'll check out some of your videos to see what you have studied. Short videos are easier to digest for sure. We haven't quite figured out how to make ours short yet. ;) Thank you talmid.
@Thesmokymountainman8 күн бұрын
@@thedisciplestable5215 It’s difficult to get people to watch long videos. I try to keep them short but it’s hard to give a full understanding. My study on Cain ,Abel,Seth and Enos reveals that Abel is Christ crucified while Seth is Christ Resurrected. It all points to Him 🙏
@D.O.P.E.Podcast9 күн бұрын
Like a man falling in love with a woman the first time he lay eyes on her even so I have fell in love with Ha Torah and Hashem Yahuah. He have given me a song and in that song I call unto Yahshua for help. I want to help my people and lead them out of the darkness that have held us captives for many years during the Atlantic slave trade. The aftermath of slavery have robbed us of our identity and roots. We don't know the name of our great great fathers and mothers we lost trace if everything. I am Jamaican and I want to be a true rabbi and direct all those who would believe on the name of Yahshua to keeping Torah in Jamaica. I need help I would like to start a congregation built upon the Torah and Besorah that believers was commissioned to spread at the four corners of Ha Eretz (the earth). Can you help me?.
@D.O.P.E.Podcast9 күн бұрын
Thank you. I love the Torah and the interpretations provide to us through the Hebrew and Aramaic languages
@thedisciplestable52159 күн бұрын
@@D.O.P.E.Podcast Thank you for watching and sharing with us what you love. Be blessed, Shalom
@carlcisc170611 күн бұрын
Where is 4th chodesh table. Most interested in 5th
@thedisciplestable521511 күн бұрын
@@carlcisc1706 Should both go up tomorrow. Sorry for the delay. Yom 4 Part 3 is scheduled to go public tonight at 10PM central time. It's been a busy schedule for both the website and the KZread channel. When you view Part 3 you'll understand why we were pushing for tonight US time, and sunrise Jerusalem time. Thank you for letting us know you are looking forward to it.🙏
@thedisciplestable521510 күн бұрын
Both the 4th and 5th are now available. www.thedisciplestable.com/4th-chodesh-2024
@ditinistreetleaguetv452817 күн бұрын
U NEED TO GO STUDY ORIGINAL IBAR, The MOON AND SUN WERE NOT CREATED ON4TH DAY
@thedisciplestable521515 күн бұрын
@@ditinistreetleaguetv4528 we will be discussing that in the next video. וַיַּעַשׂ אֱלֹהִים אֶת־שְׁנֵי הַמְּאֹרֹת הַגְּדֹלִים אֶת־הַמָּאוֹר הַגָּדֹל לְמֶמְשֶׁלֶת הַיּוֹם וְאֶת־הַמָּאוֹר הַקָּטֹן לְמֶמְשֶׁלֶת הַלַּיְלָה וְאֵת הַכּוֹכָבִים׃
@TheArtisanbardАй бұрын
Very Interesting! Finally someone addressing The millenniums affecting the cal!
@PaulanCollins7585Ай бұрын
I'm also trying to Learn Hebrew..... You say' he is saying he is pointing to the Father? So he is speaking of himself as the 🕯️.......? Yom the 4th hebrew word.
@felishiafreddy8346Ай бұрын
We love to receive your other studies🎉
@thedisciplestable5215Ай бұрын
More are being prepared. It does take time. Thank you for your encouragement. ❤️
@felishiafreddy8346Ай бұрын
Amazing study We are from Horeb biblical Hebrew school in India
@thedisciplestable5215Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing with your group and telling us where you are from ❤ India. It is so nice to hear from you. Blessings.
@Logic807Ай бұрын
Take note on the line “precept upon precept” from Isaiah : This really is a passage of mocking and judgment. “Line upon line” and “precept upon precept” is the way of folly and gibberish, …and actually you do a deeper study …I think it is something like utter gibberish, words that could not be translated…just mimicking some words. Isaiah was making up words that was gibberish to mock the spiritual leaders, and teachers
@thedisciplestable5215Ай бұрын
You offer an interesting perspective. When I reread the text in its full context it seems that what Isaiah was saying was that scripture was written in such away that one had to gather the information from various places in order to understand the whole. Perhaps simular to Yeshua speaking in parables. Mat 13:13 - “Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. Mat 13:14 - “And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says: ‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, And seeing you will see and not perceive; Mat 13:15 - For the hearts of this people have grown dull. Their ears are hard of hearing, And their eyes they have closed, Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, So that I should heal them. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts
@user-ug2yz6vb7p2 ай бұрын
Evolve. You reside in ignorance from minds of other sophists. You understand Aleph, right? Then you know it stands as a sign of a bull and ox. You also understand Beth, right? House. "House of Baal" is the Aleph-beth "phenomenology of the spirit". Do not be so ignorant so as to not draw the lines here. This foundation is NOT of YH. Also, the wisdom is again testifying against these "houses". For on them now is the word synagogue. Synagogue, from Greek SYN(sun)+agogos(to lead)= the SUN LEADS. Does it? YH wants to know. You take your study from these houses I know. Stop teaching vanity and falseness. Only truth and what is right should be taught by only the qualified.
@thedisciplestable52152 ай бұрын
For others reading this comment it might be helpful to understand What do the Sophists believe? They were secular atheists, relativists and cynical about religious beliefs and all traditions. They believed and taught that "might makes right". They were pragmatists trusting in whatever works to bring about the desired end at whatever the cost. We don't agree that we "reside in ignorance from minds of other sophists." We quite understand that not everyone will like what is offered at this table. Still, everyone has been invited.
@DjDenizeri2 ай бұрын
Wonderful wonderful wonderful. Thank you Lord. Thank you all who were moved in time and planned for this time.
@imkadosh2 ай бұрын
I am learning biblical Hebrew on my own, and I find this particle, את, does not have meaning, but I don't believe it. Hebrew goes in the same structure or grammatical order as in Spanish, and for me it is very easy to understand because of my Spanish. Thank you very much. And thank you very much for your very important videos!!
@thedisciplestable52152 ай бұрын
Thank you for the encouragement. You are to be commended for learning Hebrew. Reading scripture in the Hebrew language is so beneficial since it broadens our understanding of the text. Blessings to you.
@imkadosh2 ай бұрын
@@thedisciplestable5215 Dear The Disciples Table, Thank you for your response. I appreciate it very much! Looking forward to your next video on the translation of "et" or "eit" את By this I mean, the grammatical meaning, the usage in a sentence or in sentences. Since I've been involved in understanding the Scripture in Hebrew I have discovered many great areas where the translation was obscure in English, then I go to the Hebrew and "bingo" I see the clear picture. It is wonderful, super wonderful to be able to go to a language that at the beginning was almost impossible because this mother tongue is so unique and old. But the only incentive to me is to understand better the Word of God. God bless you, and thank you for reading, and for being a light to the world. I appreciate your love for the Word of God!
@imkadosh2 ай бұрын
Dear The Disciples Table, why don't you give the meaning of את ?? Since this word was not translated into English, but you know its meaning in Hebrew, would you let us know what you understand of it ??!!
@thedisciplestable52152 ай бұрын
Further along in the video we show a graphic that lists the various ways את is found in scripture. It is not only a particle, but a preposition, and also used for pronouns. Perhaps your question is asking for the one and only meaning of את. If that is the case, it's a bit more involved than that. Two verses come to mind: Jhn 12:35 - Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth. And, Exo 3:14 -"And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you". Therefore if pressed for one meaning, the short answer would be "light".
@maharishi91112 ай бұрын
The LORD bless you and keep you and your family 🙌🏻
@thedisciplestable52152 ай бұрын
To you and yours as well. Thank you for your kindness.
@maharishi91112 ай бұрын
@@thedisciplestable5215 🙏🏻
@user-jx5qz8xm9x2 ай бұрын
You said in YOU if you passed the test. Can you please elaborate ?
@thedisciplestable52152 ай бұрын
Great question! The Greek word Paul uses here is δόκιμος (dokimos) Strong: G1384 GK: G1511 proved, tried; approved after examination and trial, Rom. 16:10; Jas. 1:12; by impl. acceptable, Rom. 14:18 You might glean further insight by reading the following Mounce translation: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%2013:6-8&version=MOUNCE. Perhaps this will be helpful to others that might be asking the same question.
@ladybugannie12 ай бұрын
Thank you. I really enjoyed this. See you Sunday in class.:)
@thedisciplestable52152 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@treeofeternallifearvoredav12273 ай бұрын
Could you please enlighten me on how you got the days number for each sign? like Fishes 37 days?
@thedisciplestable52153 ай бұрын
In that year there were 37 days. We have since discovered that this isn't always the case. We use the prime meridian. Take a look at each chodesh posted at TheDisciplesTable.com to see what we observed last year up to present. We will be coming out with an updated and revised video after we complete the Yom 4 series. It was actually during our production of Yom 4 that we refined the means to observe His instructions to Moshe. We also have written several blogs on the website too since creating videos takes time.
@treeofeternallifearvoredav12273 ай бұрын
@@thedisciplestable5215 Thank you so much! I will take a look!🙏
@virginiacaradori59694 ай бұрын
if God named the stars why are the planets named for pagan gods?
@thedisciplestable52154 ай бұрын
Excellent question. Some of the names of these stars/aka planets are found written in scripture. Unfortunately, just about everthing has been reworked, renamed by man over the years, centuries, and millenniums. When doing research we try to work backwards to get an idea of what may have been the original name or at the very least original intent. Even the constellations that we know today have, in many cases been renamed.Astronomers predominantly use the "Western" sky culture of names so often used today. But we dig deeper and look at the Arabic sky culture to see what be unchanged, like the scorpion and the Lion. The star we know as Arcturus is one of the stars we can find in scripture, in Hebrew. Even the chodeshim originally numbered in scripture but man decided to assign them names. Hope this helps to answer your question.
@virginiacaradori59694 ай бұрын
I saw Rabbi Jason Sobel talk about this word as well. He said in the Hebrew it could literally be translated "by consent of the son" the world was created. He said that Jesus consented to the creation knowing that man would fall and he would have to die. That as well, makes this even more amazing to me. God could have decided not to create us knowing we would fail. But he loved us before any of us were ever born. MIND BLOWING! Even the selection of the language of Hebrew for Abraham's descendants is part of God's plan. There are hidden messages all over the Old Testament scriptures. Thank you for sharing this and for teaching these things clearly. I used to love God's word in a half-hearted way. Now I'm in awe of it. It is ALIVE to those who know God it teaches us so much when we study it.
@thedisciplestable52154 ай бұрын
Love your insight. This is truly the reason this channel is here. To share the awesomeness of our Creator! Hopefully it is just what is needed to inspire each of us to keep seeking Him.
@virginiacaradori59694 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this!
@thedisciplestable52154 ай бұрын
Thank you for letting us know! Blessings
@essiey4 ай бұрын
My head was spinning, i need to understand this,😔
@thedisciplestable52154 ай бұрын
We agree, there is a lot of detail in this video. Take your time, pause or screenshot during the parts that need to be reviewed to understand. We are preparing Rediscovering Elohim's Timepiece-The Exodus and will try to take it slower so that it might be easier and less of a head spin. Thank you for watching and leaving your comment so we can tailor the next video.
@willharmond67725 ай бұрын
You were doing so good. Then you said," in fact the earth is moving". We actually have a ton of bible apps now days, its simple, just type in a bible search the Passages and read those scriptures: Immovable, Stable, shall not be moved. Never in Scripture will you find that the Earth moves. TAKE Joshua Chapter 10 for Example, He commands the Sun to Stand Still, wait what, were taught in school that the Earth rotates around the Sun. Hmmm... Beleive your Bible over what Man has Brought to you to learn and know. What did Jesus Say about Deception, weve all fallen victim to it, because thats what weve been taught, A Spiining Globe that Revolves Around the Sun, and moves through the Milky way Galaxy to a never ending end. Come on, you had me reeled, speaking truth, till you said this. WAKE UP❕
@willharmond67725 ай бұрын
Let me add this little bit. If you beleive the Word of God, in Genesis, the beginning, when he created, then rested on the 7th day. The Sun, Moon, and Stars were Created in the firmament on the 4th day. If the Earth he created before the 4th day, how can the Earth revolve around something that had not been created yet?
@thedisciplestable52155 ай бұрын
No man is good. We try our best. We are sorry that a few words were so distracting. Fortunately it's His Truth we can depend on. You are not alone in your criticism of this point. We will endeavor to do better. Shalom.
@willemvanbruggen60305 ай бұрын
What about the connection with the feastdays of Lev.23 and the first sheaf offer. There was a ripe first sheaf offer required after Pascha. Could you explain what is the first Abib with the first Aviv?
@thedisciplestable52155 ай бұрын
The 2nd letter in the Hebrew aleph bet is ב, bet has 2 sounds, "v" and/or "b". Therefore it is spelled sometimes Aviv, and other sources refer to it as Abib. It is the same month. Hope this answers your question? Thank you for watching and asking questions.
@willemvanbruggen60305 ай бұрын
Thanks for your answer. Abib/Aviv means: Strong's h24 - Lexical: אָבִיב - Transliteration: abib - Part of Speech: Noun Masculine - Phonetic Spelling: aw-beeb' - Definition: fresh, young ears, also Canaanite name for the first month of the Jewish calendar. - Origin: From an unused root (meaning to be tender); green, i.e. A young ear of grain; hence, the name of the month Abib or Nisan. - Usage: Abib, ear, green ears of corn (not maize). - Translated as (count): of Abib (5), Abib (1), heads of (1), in the head (1). This means the green ears needs to be in the head of the plant to be ready for offering as written in Lev 23:9 9And LORD JEHOVAH spoke with Moshe and said to him: 10“Speak with the children of Israel and say to them: ‘Whenever you shall enter to the land that I give to you and you have harvested its harvest, bring a sheaf of the first fruits of your harvest to the Priest: 11And you shall dedicate the sheaf before LORD JEHOVAH to be acceptable, and after another day the Priest shall dedicate it. This is telling me the first month is Abib the head of the months and in that month they needed to offer a first sheaf offer which is Abib/Aviv. This is a reference to Yeshuah because Yeshuah is our first Sheaf Offer for all of us on the cross. I like to see more relation to the feasts in your next video.
@thedisciplestable52155 ай бұрын
Strong's definition is very useful. It was indeed a Cannanite word. It is important to note that it was the condition of the sheaf that denotes Aviv. In the year of the Exodus Aviv was in March. In Judaism most will recognize Aviv in April this year because emphasis is now placed on the month name Aviv. We are watching the daily reports of the progress of the sheaves in Israel now. We believe that they will be ready before April. We'll see. Thank you for the interest in the Feast Days. We continue to work on Yom 4 and Rediscovering Elohim's Timepiece-The Exodus.
@virginiacaradori59695 ай бұрын
just wow! I'm a 5th child as well and I often wondered why there were constellations. Now I know.
@bretthancock935 ай бұрын
The 13 Month Yahuah provides right on time. It’s Ophiuchus ⛎ and it’s hidden because of what it represents. Aether, spirit, sky, creative healer.
@thedisciplestable52155 ай бұрын
Yes it is obscured. Since the definition of a month is 29/30 days were you able to find scriptural support for a 13 month?
@relaxalittle77656 ай бұрын
My question is how do you start your year without the sign of the years end (equinox) first? The progression of the equinoxes is common knowledge and the only way we can SEE the completed circuit of the sun is with the straight line shadow.
@thedisciplestable52156 ай бұрын
The completed circuit does not start nor end with the equinox. But the equinox is always in the 1st chodesh of chodeshim. We are currently working on "Rediscovering Elohim's Timepiece -The Exodus" as part of the Yom 4 series. It will be helpful to see this when it is uploaded. Thank you for watching and asking good questions.
@relaxalittle77656 ай бұрын
I do not understand how you can say equinox does not start or end the year but then say it is always in the 1st chodesh. At the time of Adam it was in Taurus, at Exodus in Aries and since Mashiach Pisces and is heading for Aquarius in the near future. We cannot pick an arbitrary year and then jump a whole chodesh especially when we don't have Scriptural reference as to exactly when or where the divisions of the Mazzaroth are. The years are all equal and the only way to see it with the naked eye is to observe the turning (tequfah) of the year.
@thedisciplestable52156 ай бұрын
@@relaxalittle7765 it is a challenging subject. It has been a journey to understand this. One thing that helped was finding the eclipse. Then understanding what the straight and narrow path was and is. If we thought we could explain it easily we would have already written a blog about it on Thedisciplestable.com page. Be patient, it's coming. In the days of Moses and until the 4th millennium they did see what to look for in the stars in the evening before the 1st day. Today we have available to us a different tool. The equinox in the 1st year of the Exodus came AFTER the 1st day. If you use the equinox only as an indicator to start the year where in scripture does it tell you when the next chodesh begins? It is not "easy" to understand but once understood it opens up further revelations throughout scripture. Shalom.
@familyshare3724Күн бұрын
The "fixed" background Stars are a practical measure, but the March equinox is not determined nor measured against the Stars (although _much_ easier to locate against the stars). The March Equinox is the point (vector) where the path of the Sun (ecliptic) crosses the rotation of the earth (equator, daily apparent motion of the stars if you prefer)
@familyshare3724Күн бұрын
The full moon of Nisan immediately follows the March Equinox. Otherwise a prior thirteenth month is inserted (Adar II or Beta).
@ezbless1007 ай бұрын
This is all good, but it needs to be based on biblical cosmology, a flat stationary earth
@thedisciplestable52157 ай бұрын
Thank you for leaving a comment. You are not alone in your suggestion. We're glad you found some the content good. Presently the focus has been days, years, millenniums, and looking up into the heavens. We might address your concerns after we complete the rest of the series. Thank you for sharing what you feel needs to be addressed. Shalom.
@ezbless1007 ай бұрын
@@thedisciplestable5215 thre reason is because there was a globe pic in your presentation, when I see that, I see 1/2 truth
@thedisciplestable52157 ай бұрын
@@ezbless100 I understand that image can be offensive to some. I encourage you to focus on what is good. There are many searching for the truth. It reinforces why "images" were discouraged as they distract from the Truth. Thank you for your patience.
@dgjesdal9 ай бұрын
Do you have an email? Are you a teacher? Can I find out your credentials? Are you a lay person that just loves the word? I appreciate your thoughts on this topic. Sandra Richter in the Epic of Eden shares this view or close to it.
@thedisciplestable52153 ай бұрын
I would be considered a lowly lay person. I have recently shared some information with rabbis in Israel. While their reaction is one of interest, they include in their response, "what are your credentials"? My response was: same as David perhaps. As far as I know he didn't have any "credentials". He was chosen and led by the spirit. But the responsibility of sharing is HUGE! This channel will not rush to upload anything that is not weighed heavily and seen as beneficial to the body. I am not offended by your question. In fact, it is welcomed. It helps others who may have similar questions. I apologize for the very tardy reply. We have been busy working on Yom 4, which has been our focus since last March. We are just now working on the editing of the narrations. Please visit TheDisciplesTable.com and use the contact form to send an email. Thank you for watching and being kind enough to leave a positive comment. Blessings to you.
@dgjesdal3 ай бұрын
I appreciate your humility and encourage you to continue. 👍
@dgjesdal9 ай бұрын
Great job.
@mariodelarosa57229 ай бұрын
Very confusing.
@wizard139910 ай бұрын
I think i missed something, but when you reference the moon to find moedim, why do you use a full moon?
@thedisciplestable52153 ай бұрын
Sorry, to have missed this comment. We have found that both the new/concealed and the full are for moedim. We are working on Rediscovering Elohim's Timepiece - The Exodus as well as Yeshua's birth. When these are available, it is our hope that these will make the argument clearer to all who are interested. Thank you for your question.
@wizard139910 ай бұрын
Have you heard of the idea of an inscription prophecy? This is YHVH hiding phrases in lists of names. You may be familiar with the sentence created using the names of the patriarchs from Adam to Noah. Have you found any other inscription prophecies hidden in the family trees presented here? There is also an inscription prophecy hidden in the names of the 12 Davidic captains who had the defense of the city of David.
@thedisciplestable52153 ай бұрын
Yes. One is in the order of King David's sons. Use the last letters. I am interested in what you have to share. Can you go to TheDisciplesTable.com and send an email to me? Thank you very much for sharing!!!!!!
@Thesmokymountainman7 күн бұрын
On my channel Cain Vs Abel Seth and Enos is a prophecy. See what you think.
Chad, can you give me a little more direction on what you want me to look at? Is there a commentary you are referring to, or should I just look again at verse 11 in the KJV?
@peggylinville210 Жыл бұрын
What is your background? What is your research source. I don't understand some of your comments in the class we are sharing...Discovering the Hebrew Bible: The Torah. This is all very new to me.
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
It was all new to me alittle over 5 years ago. I was participating in a 9 month Bible study that was international. They were studying Revelation. I did my homework everyday to answer their questions only to have them lead me to my own. I was raised in the American Baptist church. So my biggest question was when is the Sabbath day? When I got my answer and began to honor it my life began to change. Here is a link for more information about me. I enjoy sharing what I am learning. No doubt this is why you are also in the class. Thank you for reaching out. I am always learning. www.thedisciplestable.com/about
@truthquest1194 Жыл бұрын
I have been trying to contact you via your website about how exactly you establish constellation boundaries. I have seen what you have written on your website.However I cannot seem replicate Nodus 1 being on the meridian and also the ecliptic on the 18 May 2023. Also it is not clear to me why the IAU boundaries are unreliable, I know it was only formalised in 1930, but why specifically is it wrong? I would appreciate if you could respond.
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
We might be using different latitudes and longitude. I have several appointments today. When I am freed up I'll follow through with your question.
@truthquest1194 Жыл бұрын
@@thedisciplestable5215 Possibly, however, the latitude and longitude I used is from stellarium (North 31 degrees 46 minutes 8.54 secs East 35 degrees 12 minutes 56.79 secs respectively). This should be the co-ordinates for Jerusalem, Israel. Whilst from this location, the star Nodus 1 does indeed appear on the the Meridian line, but the ecliptic does not intersect there. However your Starry Night Pro Plus 8 screen-shot shows that Nodus 1 is on the intersect. I cannot see your latitude or longitude, only your ecliptic longitude and latitude, which if I am not mistaken is a co-ordinate position on the ecliptic not the Earth . Even if Nodus 1 is on the intersect of the meridian and the ecliptic how does that relate to the Sun entering into the sign of the Bull? I am very confused! clearly I have much to learn. Also what is the significance of the meridian line anyway, is that not just arbitrary line , could'nt this line be anywhere?
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
I greatly appreciate your persistence. I began this reply last Friday. However, I delayed sending it on to you until I had a reply to my own question that I submitted to the software company that supports Starry Night Pro Plus 8. Sadly, they still have not responded to my question. I do not want you to wait any longer. Here is what I can say at this point. Your inability to replicate the data on May 18th has now shown me that I did not understand that the software program was showing me the “ecliptic meridian”. This is not to be confused with the “ecliptic”. However, I in fact confused the two. I will update the blog to make clear this very distinctive difference. To be honest, the next step I needed to take before replying to you was to get a clear definition of the term, ecliptic meridian (which I am now still waiting for). I could not find the answer in the software’s user guide. Note: I do not see where I can select the ecliptic meridian in Stellarium. This will certainly set these two software programs apart in this regard. I was able to replicate the image and arrive at the same data and will attempt to share the image saved on July 21, 2023. This alone is encouraging. I am still trying to determine If these software programs generate consistent data, Software used: Starry Night Pro Plus 8 Observation Date: May 18, 2023 Time: 2:06:22AM Location: 6 meters over Jerusalem (Latitude: 32° 0.219' N Longitude: 35° 15.160' E) Intersection of the meridian and the “ecliptic meridian” Nodus 1 It is not for certain that the IAU boundaries are ENTIRELY unreliable or “wrong”. We continue to keep an eye on their (IAU) boundaries as we go along. Afterall, though using the moon to establish the rosh chodesh is in error, it does help us in some ways to know that this too can be useful information. For instance, it would indeed be notable if there was a day in the future when all methods agreed. I believe this is true for certain events in the past. The reason for the decision was because of their inclusion of Ophiuchus. Its placement does and will continue to affect recognizing when the sun enters the chodesh of The Archer. If we were to rely on when these software programs state that the sun enters The Archer, it would be wrong. We discovered this affect when working on Rediscovering Elohim’s Timepiece - The Flood. This made us consider that there might be more errors by using the IAU boundaries not at first realized. We may in fact find that some of the boundaries established by the IAU fall in line with our observations. In fact, this year Stellarium specifies that July 21st is the 1st day that the sun enters The Crab. That might be true. But July 17, and 18th are also a possibility. Time will tell. Our desire is to seek out the answers in all humility. Therefore, we expect this venture to take time to show consistency. But even that expectation might be more than one can hope for. Why? Because if “on earth as it is in heaven” is taken literally, then just as man has fallen off the straight and narrow path, what if the stars in the heavens have also done the same? It is indeed a point to consider. And, perhaps why the “calendar” was not emphasized throughout scripture. But just as it is on earth…. not all have fallen away, there is always a remnant. So, is there a remnant in heaven that we can firmly ascertain what day it is? Praying that it is so. We considered these verses for making the decision to seek an alternative method for discovering the 1st day for each of the chodeshim: Genesis 1:14 Deuteronomy 5:29 Job 35:5 Isaiah 55:8 Proverbs 4:11 Matthew 2:2
@GB0915 Жыл бұрын
@The Disciples Table, I have looked for the 'Genesis 7 A Counting of Days' video and can't find it. Will you share it here in the comments? Thank you!
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
As we worked on Rediscovering Elohim's Timepiece "The Flood" we decided to take it down. We felt that it was obsolete now that we had a better reckoning of Elohim's Timepiece. We will continue to update material as we move forward. In the future we will try to extract portions from Genesis 7 Acounting of Days, to give it our best current understanding. But as you know we are moving on to Yom 4 now. It is difficult to work on both at the same time.
@GB0915 Жыл бұрын
@@thedisciplestable5215 Okay; so refresh my memory on where to find how you determined that the year began in the autumn during the time of Noah? I've been tracing your videos to better understand that piece and tracked the source all the way back to the 'Genesis 7 A Counting of Days video', which is no longer available. Do you explain it in detail in another of your more recent videos?
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
@@GB0915 There are 2 types of years in Elohim’s Timepiece, Civil and Ecclesiastical. So there are only 2 choices for the placement of the flood. We hope that Rediscovering Elohim's Timepiece-The Flood provides sufficient details to show that the start of the flood is marked by the civil year. You ask good questions and we will keep this in mind as we continue the series. The civil years are also important in navigating the 4th millennium. Exodus 34:22 22 "Keep the Feast of Weeks with the first cutting of the wheat harvest, and the Feast of Ingathering at the turn of the year. (turn of the year Noun. Approximately at the end of one year and the beginning of the next.)
@GB0915 Жыл бұрын
Hey, what happened to Yom 4- 12 Baskets? I don't see videos on those. This was a good video, though, as are those discussing Yom 1-3.
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
Still have to get to them. We were led to introduce "Rediscovering Elohim's Timepiece" before moving on to Yom 4 because the Timepiece is a major foundation that must be understood before presenting the 4th millennium.
@truthquest1194 Жыл бұрын
I was just rewatching your video and trying understand how you got 150 days from 17th day of the second chodesh to the 17th day of the of the seventh Chodesh. From the 17 th day of the second Chodesh to end of the second Chodesh is 6 days as the Scales has 23 days, if you inclusively count on the 17 day when the fountains of the deep broke up and the windows of heaven were opened, then thus would give you 7 days, but your graphic shows 18 days!! Also the Scorpion has 25 days, but graphic shows 27 days, the Archer has 33 days your graphic has 25 days, the Sea Goat has 27 days your graphic shows 38 days. I think the correct calc is 7+25+33+27+25+17=134 days. Can you explain where I have gone wrong as I cannot get 150 days. Oddly enough though, if I use the Ram as the second Chodesh (as per scripture) this has 26 days so the remaining days are 9, Bull 38 days, Twins 29 days, Crab 21 days, Lion 37 days Virgin 17 days. This all adds to 151 days this seems a lot closer. With only 1 day out I feel sure there is a boundary issue somewhere. I will check this over the coming months. For me this seems to vindicate the scriptures and shows the Rabi's tradition is wrong. That said if your 150 days calculation is somehow right then I standed corrected, but based on what I have shown you I cannot see it. I would love to know your take on my calcs. Shalome.c
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for rewatching and giving it such scrutiny. Your questions are sure to benefit some who read the comments. There are a few places in the video that can lead to confusion, and since our God is not a god of confusion, we must likewise strive to clear up this as much as is possible. The Ram is the 2nd chodesh only in the Age of The Fishes. It was in fact the 1st chodesh in the days of Moses, and it served as the 6th chodesh in the days of Noach. This is the very reason Elohim numbered the chodeshim and did not give them names. They shift over time. Scorpion has 25 days. Correct, remember this is the first chodesh in the days of Noach. The count in the graphic begins in the second chodesh. There is no counting of the days under the sign of the Scorpion. The Archer (2nd chodesh) has 34 days. The days not to be included in the count are 16. 34 - 16 = 18. The graphic shows 27 because this 3rd chodesh (Kid Goat) is 27 days, the 4th chodesh 25 days (the Water Bearer), the 5th chodesh shows 38 days (The Fishes). The count is 18+27+25+38+25+17= 150 What is bound to confuse viewers in this video is the animated graphic of the sun traveling through the ecliptic in various places throughout the video. (1:43-1:56, 22:27-22:36). This animation was a clip that we created in house and uploaded back on May 6, 2021, for the video “The True Meaning of Chodesh”. At that time these number of days were our understanding based on the published work of “The Way Biblical Fellowship” and only for that current year of 2021. However, over the last three years we have learned far more about the timepiece. So, in short, those days shown in the animated graphic do NOT use the same perimeters as those used for “The Flood”. We only edited this older clip animation at the 22:27-22:36 mark to remove the dates which would cause confusion. Your comments were a great benefit to us. Once we read your comment, we took a closer look and found that we had listed the 23rd day of the 7th chodesh (The Bull) twice in our excel sheet, which gave us a day count of 38 when it needed to be 39 in the days of Noach. We have since corrected this and uploaded the revised pdf file to our website. You might find this file helpful. Thank you for your questions and testing out the information shared. www.thedisciplestable.com/post/part-2-the-flood
@truthquest1194 Жыл бұрын
@@thedisciplestable5215 Thanks so much for your swift response. It now works perfectly, hallelujah! This also clears up the first question I had which was , "Please can you explain how we know from the bible that in the days of Noah, the first chodesh was determined by the day when the sun entered the sign in which the autumnal equinox was present.?". The simple answer is there is no other way to get 150 days precisely, with the exception of assuming 30 day months which is not biblical, whereas the passage of the sun through the 12 Chodeshim is the very definition of a year. It is also observable and testable with no need to intercalate.
@wdburt91 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious: How is it that someone who is _so_ well studied in His Word (and _not_ man's "teachings") believes instead the _heliocentric model_ that was given to us _by man_ as opposed to believing the [flat, enclosed,] _geocentric model_ that was given to us by _the Father?_ There are only _two_ verses in Scripture that could be said to support heliocentricism; and yet, even then, those verses have to be twisted out of context in order to fit that model. Whereas there are over _two hundred_ verses in Scripture that unmistakably describe the flat, enclosed, geocentric model of the cosmos. It pains me to see you be so 'on the mark' with SO many aspects of His Word and yet simultaneously be of the belief that the cosmos is as _man_ describes it to be and _not_ how _the Father_ describes it to be. It is my sincere hope that you are simply honestly unaware of the truth of biblical cosmology. For when you would discover the truth of it to a sufficient degree, you will see that it is undoubtedly the truth of things and you will never again [be able to] take a serious gander at man's (which is to ultimately say: satan's) model of the cosmos: heliocentrism. I pray you take my comment here to heart. For I am not trying to rebuke, lambast, or embarrass you. I am only seeking to edify you; for you seem to be, for the most part, _very_ well in-tune with what His Word is saying over what man is saying. I hope this message reaches your heart and takes root there, for I speak nothing but the truth to you. I was once a "devout" atheist; _nothing_ could shake me from that mindset. I practically worshipped technology and "the fuuutuuuure." But in Feb '16, the Father sent me down a rabbit hole, the likes of which I _NEVER_ would have _ever_ taken seriously. And yet, half a year later, after _much_ researching, I found Scripture to be true (via discovering the truth of biblical cosmology) and thus I believed and was saved. Seven years later, I now know _so_ much more about our cosmos and how it works. And honestly, it's beautiful.. _truly_ beautiful... Again, please take my words to heart and look into biblical cosmology. I help run a community for it over on reddit and I would be more than happy to answer any questions you may have about it. reddit.com/r/BiblicalCosmology May the Father bless you and continue to grow you in your understanding of His Word in contrast to what _man_ (satan) would have us believe. -Will Maybe posting my answer in my original comment will work. The first of the two misinterpreted verses: Isaiah 40:22 biblehub.com/isaiah/40-22.htm The first half of this verse is misconstrued so as to fit the heliocentric narrative. “Oh, it says circle, so that means He is describing a ball/sphere.” Not so. The word used here is ‘circle’ and not ‘ball.’ And, knowing that people would debate this, He left us proof, in the same book no less, that He didn’t use the wrong word; for in Isaiah 22:18, He uses the word ‘ball’ in clear reference to the motions that would be expected from such a geometrical shape of a ball as opposed to a [flat] circle. As I’m sure you know, His Word is _perfectly_ deliberate, using the exact words He means to use. The second of the two misinterpreted verses: Job 26:7 biblehub.com/job/26-7.htm Many people use this verse as a proof that the earth is suspended in the void of space, though they are unconsciously basing their interpretation on a teaching that they don’t know is false; thus they inevitably arrive at the wrong interpretation. Here, the Father is telling us that the earth _isn’t_ hung from or suspended over anything. He is telling us that the earth isn’t suspended from above, but is rather supported from beneath (via the four pillars of the earth, spoken of in multiple places). Much like how a footstool isn’t hung from or suspended over anything, but is rather resting upon its foundations (the footstool’s legs), the earth likewise is resting upon its foundations (pillars) and is _not_ hung or suspend from above as in how a coat is hung by a coat hanger. As for the 200+ verses, here you go: www.worldslastchance.com/biblical-christian-beliefs/flat-earth-bible-verses-more-than-200.html Please read it in full, and without bias or preconception. Further: an excerpt from the above, as a response to another commenter informing you that Scripture says the earth is fixed and immovable: Earth is fixed and immovable: 1 Chronicles 16:30, Psalm 33:9, Psalm 93:1, Psalm 96:10, Psalm 104:5, Psalm 119:89-90, Isaiah 14:7, Isaiah 45:18, Zechariah 1:11, Luke 8:17, Hebrews 11:10, 2 Peter 3:5 [earth standing] They failed to provide the verses you rightly requested. I’m here to pick up their slack and show that they indeed knew what they were talking about even though they, for one reason or another, failed to provide you with the requisite verses. Please take all of this with an open mind and a sincere heart.
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
We welcome everyone to this table ,so as to share. Please share the 2 verses vs over 200 verses that you refer to.
@wdburt91 Жыл бұрын
@@thedisciplestable5215 For some reason, although I've tried time and again to reply to your comment, my response doesn't seem to be loading on the page after I post it. I can happily email it to you, for I believe that 'wickedness in high places' is working against the truth being posted for all to see. Actually: I’ll simply try to post it as a new comment thread, so that others can see it as well.
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
Try using the website here:www.thedisciplestable.com/contact-8
@wdburt91 Жыл бұрын
@@thedisciplestable5215 as it currently stands, it seems I was able to successfully post my answer here in this comment section after all, though I had to do so in the form of simply tacking it on to the bottom of my original comment. I did also email you already though, though I used the email attached to this KZread channel. I apologize that it was not a business inquiry.
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
And a special thank you for reading the other comments and answering the request when the other party did not. My spirit told me then that someone would pick up where the other left off. Please don't expect an immediate response to the indepth verse references. But be assured they all will be reviewed in the Hebrew text and hebraic mindset. Thank you for your efforts. May peace be with you.
@GB0915 Жыл бұрын
I know I comment a lot, but only because I'm searching for answers, too. One thing that's not explained is how the giants/Nephilim came to be. Could I share what I've been discovering? Just now I looked up the Hebrew word for giant & huge, which turns out to be Ank (ענק), which is related to the Anakim in scripture. The numerical value of Ank is 220, which is close to the number of angels that fell on Mt. Hermon according to the book of Enoch. The number for Nephilim (henfiles, הנפילים, in Hebrew) is only valued at five more, at numerical value of 225. The name Jared means "to go down", or "to descend", as in down a mountain. Just like Peleg's name relates to an event that happened in his lifetime (in his days the earth was divided), couldn't Jared/Yared's name also relate to the event of some beings' descent down a mountain during his lifetime? Further, Genesis six does not specify that the sons of God saw the women were beautiful during Noah's life nor does it specify that they saw they were beautiful from the days of Seth or even Yared - and then subsequently married any of them they chose. It simply says, WHEN men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them. We can only speculate the timeline on when God said they began to increase in number. Jared was born just a short 460 years after Adam and 330 years after Seth, and we can only guess how many years after Cain. Considering they had children, on average, at 90+ yrs old up to that point, why wouldn't the increase of men have started at Jared rather than earlier? One more thing to note is that Jared was the sixth generation from Adam. Six (6) ==> man ==> This correlates to the pattern in which there was an increase in population during the sixth (6) millennium. Just like there was an increase in population in the sixth millennium, it is likely that the population began increasing drastically during the sixth generation of mankind, especially since Jared lived 962 years past the 460th year of the earth. Just something else to consider. One last question I have been pondering is how a man born from Seth's lineage (son of God) take a wife from Cain's lineage (son of man) and produce the Nephilim/a race of giants?
@vicl5767 Жыл бұрын
I really found your video very interesting, very fast pace and educational. I have a question about this year 2023 was / is the vernal equinox on March 20 2023. I believe it to be true based on my research. (But not 100% sure) if so, is it considered day one (1) of the new year. If I'm right then I'll be able track all of the feasts for the whole year based on March 20. Correct or not please put together if you are willing a short video for your viewers ref the start of the biblical year 2023. I believe it would help us worship on the correct appointed times. Thank you
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Time, and how one uses it is perhaps the most valuable commodity today. So we appreciate your taking the time to watch this and finding it interesting and educational. You are correct, March 20th in 2023 was the day of the vernal equinox. But this event did not set the beginning of the year. It is and always has been the sun's first day entering into the sign in which the vernal equinox is (for the ecclesiastical year in which all the feasts are governed by). Here is a link to The Disciples Table's website. We aim to post each of the chodeshim for 2023. We are working on the 2nd chodesh now and should have it posted at the end of the week. We are grateful for your interest. www.thedisciplestable.com/2023-24-chodeshim
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
Here is a link to the upcoming chodesh timeline. We encourage you to watch part 2 "The Flood" if you haven't already. www.thedisciplestable.com/copy-of-2023-24-chodeshim
@jeffgentry6728 Жыл бұрын
We attend Jared's Hebrew A open class on Thursday night. How much research have you done on the Mazeroth?
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
How much is a challenging question. There is always so much to learn. My focus has been on the Timepiece and the stars themselves, locations, and size. I've gleaned from several resources over the span of the last 5 years. Thanks for taking a look at this video Jeff.
@jeffgentry6728 Жыл бұрын
I ask because my knowledge of it is very limited, this fascinating stuff, I am of the opinion the Mazeroth is an important resource we have lost.
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Your comment has me reflecting on the journey that I've been on. I once lived in New Jersey, in a rural part of the county where I could see the stars all the time. But when I moved to Texas in 2004, I moved to a pretty popular "suburb" outside of Dallas, called Frisco. I could no longer see the stars within two years of moving there. So when I built a new home in 2014 in East Texas I was finally able to see the stars again. One extraordinay night of stars happened as I looked up from my window after my home had been finished being built. I remember that night. In that moment, I knew that if the knowledge of the stars was understood once before, could it be again? Then, that same night, I shared with Elohim that I would love to have that understanding someday. It wasn't a "prayer" per say, but more so a desire. I have been so blessed that He heard me. I'm still learning. Now I am eager to share what I am coming to understand. For surely there are others like me who are asking, albeit few. Thank you Jeff for giving me an opportunity to reflect on the beginnings of that journey. We should never forget where we started from. Blessings to you.
@GB0915 Жыл бұрын
One thing I'm curious about is why Scorpio is mentioned as the first Chodesh rather than Libra, as the sign associated with Tishrei (1st Chodesh) is the scales/Libra.
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
Based on some of your previous comments, we think you are still in a mindset of "months" and not chodeshim. Further, you are using Tishrei and The Scales as a pairing in the Age of Pisces. This was not the case in the Age of The Bull. This is explained in this video. Thank you for your question.
@CountingfromCaleb Жыл бұрын
It is interesting in that on May 14, 1948 when Israel became a nation using this method of time keeping the sun changed from Aires to Taurus beginning the third Rosh Chodesh for the year.
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
Great share! We took a quick look at when Stellarium says that the Sun entered "The Bull" that year. The time came up with May 13, 1948 @ 4:55:50PM. Here is a diary entry for that day in Israel. May 13, 1948 British troops were withdrawn from their positions protecting the Jewish Quarter in the Old City in the evening. Haganah forces in the Old City occupied the positions vacated by the army. Intermittent firing and sniping began in the Old City at 7 p.m. (www.timesofisrael.com/independence-day-1948-war-diary/) Thanks for taking a look at this! Appreciate the feedback. Shalom
@CountingfromCaleb Жыл бұрын
@@thedisciplestable5215 Of course! Shalom:) If this is accurate, the events unfolding here on earth after the Chodesh change are literally coincident with the heavens.
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
@@CountingfromCaleb We did end this video with an upcoming date, but not with any elaboration. Hopefully we can expound on it before that date. Something to think about is to compare what happened on the 17th day of the 2nd chodesh and what this upcoming 17th day in the 2nd chodesh might point us to. We think a fresh look at this verse found in the newer testaments Romans 11:25 may be something to consider. Yah willing, we will address this in an upcoming video. There is certainly more to come. Thanks again for watching and giving us some great feedback..
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
@@CountingfromCaleb Nice to read what your focusing on now. Perhaps this is something we should consider taking a closer look at while we are working on the next video. Immediately "cancer" the crab came to mind because in some cultures it is a smaller portion of a bird. Hmmmm. It would be unwise to speculate without doing some due diligence on this topic. Your comments lead to inspiration. Thank you.
@CountingfromCaleb Жыл бұрын
@@thedisciplestable5215 Thank you! Great job with your videos! The sky is a big clock we are all trying to read. I looked into this a little more and Yom Teruah begins at sunset on Sep 16 and ends sundown on Sep 17 this year. 10:52:24 on the 17th the sun moves from the constellation Leo into Virgo at that same time. John may have been seeing the beginning of the civil year in the fall versus the religious year beginning in the spring. Very interesting!
@GB0915 Жыл бұрын
I haven't finished watching this so I don't know if you already mention this in the second half of the video, but if not, this is interesting, too. Here's a chart I put together with the months and their meanings. Take a look at the meanings in relation to the flood. Note: The fifth Hebrew month (Leo), Jul/Aug, means harvest, chase, hunt, journey. I wonder if the animals were gathering to be loaded onto the ark at that time. Hebr. mo./Greg. mo./Sign / Aleph / Symbol /Value /Meaning 6 Aug./Sept. Virgo Kuf ק 100 Circle, Time, Condense 7 Sept./Oct. Libra Hey ה 5 reveal, breath grace, mercy 8 Oct./Nov. Scorpio Vav ו 6 establish, man, secure 9 Nov./Dec. Sagittarius zayin ז 7 pierce, food, cut, nourish 10 Dec./Jan Capricorn chet ח 8 inner chamber, protect, divide, wall 11 Jan./Feb. Acquarius tet ט 9 surrounds, twist, contains So if it is correct that it was in Scorpio in which the floodwaters began, then man was established/secure inside the (inner chamber- Capricorn) before the flood came. The Hebrew letter assigned to Aquarius is in the shape of a basket. They were in the basket on the waters for 300+days.
@GB0915 Жыл бұрын
P.S. The Hebrew aleph bet associated with the Mazzaroth tells a story in and of itself. If you look at it from a salvation through Son of Man perspective (Virgo through Leo), you have this message: Sign Aleph symbol Value Meaning Virgo ק 100 God/Time Libra ה 5 Reveals/breathes grace and mercy Scorpio ו 6 to man Sagittarius ז 7 through piercing, Capricorn ח 8 the holy place/veil Acquarius ט 9 that surrounds Pisces י 10 worship and deeds Aries ל 30 Teaching Taurus נ 50 sons Gemini ס 60 to turn asside from hate Cancer ע 70 and seek to understand Leo צ 90to hunt (for the revelation until harvest?) If you look at it from a perspective of instructions given during the Exodus you get this message starting from Leo through Virgo: Instructions given during the Exodus: Leo Hunt Cancer and seek to understand Gemini turn aside from hate. Taurus Heirs Aries Teach Pisces worship and deeds Acquarius which surround Capricorn the holy place/veil (Tabernacle/Temple) Sagittarius through feeding Scorpio man Libra Revealing/breathe grace and mercy Virgo through God/Time From the flood perspective it reads as follows: Scorpio Secure/to man Sagittarius through piercing, Capricorn the holy place/veil Acquarius that surrounds Pisces worship and deeds Aries Bind/Teaching Taurus sons Gemini to turn aside from hate Cancer and seek to understand Leo and to hunt/chase after Virgo God/Time Libra who reveals, breath grace, mercy So no matter where we are in the history of His time, his story is true. With the flood it told of man being secure while the veil of the heavenly tabernacle (division) was pierced by the waters and that thereafter the heirs of man were to turn away from hate/corruption/destruction and to seek God who gives mercy. During the exodus they were shown to seek understanding and to turn away from hate (once again). The heirs were to teach/worship (the Law) around the holy place (Tabernacle) through feeding man (sacrificed lambs, etc) revealing grace and mercy through God (and His Son). During time of Jesus' first coming, the signs read, God reveals to man through piercing (of the final perfect sacrificial lamb) the holy veil that surrounds worship and deeds, teaching sons (both those born and those grafted into the family) to turn aside from hate and seek to understand (the?) harvest/hunt.
@GB0915 Жыл бұрын
One more P.S.S. The fact that the timing of the heavenly luminaries coincided so perfectly with Jesus' crucifixion (the sun was in the ram while the moon was in the scales/law) at exactly 15 days after the sun entered Aries (Abib) means that that was the exact time the last sacrifice was to take place. It was THE final Passover, except only ONE Son died while all others lived. The changing of the constellations over time puts the 15th of Abib (Aries) into May instead of April since the sun enters Aries on April 20th. However, if you keep the season the same (March/April) for the Passover to be celebrated it would have fallen on March 28/22. They no longer line up perfectly like they did from the Exodus (first Passover) through Jesus' crucifixion because Jesus said, "It is finished".
@lisafoster2528 Жыл бұрын
@@GB0915 Interesting. Are the definitions based on the Greek language? Thanks for sharing.
@GB0915 Жыл бұрын
@@lisafoster2528 They're based on the meanings of the Hebrew letters.
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
We are thrilled that you have started watching. It certainly is a lot of detail. Take your time. Thank you for watching.
@truthquest1194 Жыл бұрын
Please can you explain how we know from the bible that in the days of Noah, the first chodesh was determined by the day when the sun entered the sign in which the autuminal equinox was present.?
@thedisciplestable5215 Жыл бұрын
You have most excellently summarized the question that even the ancient sages struggled with and perhaps asked repeatedly. They, and for millenniums, others did not understand the following verse properly: Psalm 104:19 "He made the moon for appointed times; the sun knows its going down." The Bul Moon was the answer. We just had to work backwards to solve the riddle. We believe He is showing us the answers now. Good question. Thank you for asking,
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Like was mentioned He is unsealing the riddle. Scripture says its an honor to search out His treasures so too speak. Proverbs 25:2. Blessings
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4:00 Neither the Babylonian nor Hebrew calendar _day_ began at sunset. The Crescent was _observed_ at Sunset. And _day_ begins at sunrise morning. _Night_ is not _day_ . The Sun (sunset and sunrise) separates _day_ from _night_ . Likewise, Sabbath was observed at sunset, but _day_ always follows morning. Read Genesis 1 carefully, without traditional assumptions, any translation.
@@familyshare3724 This article might be useful for others seeking more information. www.rabbinicalassembly.org/sites/default/files/public/resources-ideas/cj/classics/11-29-11-calendar/counting-day-night.pdf
No. Preparation is the 14th day. Lamb sacrifice before sunset. Passover at night. The morning is Sabbath day 15. Day is separate from night! Night is not day.
@@familyshare3724 We agree.
The Virgin Birth is in beginning the Torah. The first letter can be translated as Daughter. The first and 6th letter can be translated as Daughter. BRASHIT can also be translated as 2 Kingdoms, and Rashi as a King. The Daughter has a Rashi in her womb. Where's the Father of the King in the Daughter's womb? The invisible Aleph.
Some deep teachings here. Will probably have to watch a few times to take it all in. Thank you for this. I have some videos that teach the names and meanings of Genesis 4 it’s an incredible prophecy foretold. I also have some on Days of Noah and the Typology involved that I haven’t heard anywhere else. I have several typology studies over Genesis subjects that you might find as new info. All short studies. Sharing what I see but in a different way. God Bless
Thank you for watching. Yes, there is a lot of content in this one video. We'll check out some of your videos to see what you have studied. Short videos are easier to digest for sure. We haven't quite figured out how to make ours short yet. ;) Thank you talmid.
@@thedisciplestable5215 It’s difficult to get people to watch long videos. I try to keep them short but it’s hard to give a full understanding. My study on Cain ,Abel,Seth and Enos reveals that Abel is Christ crucified while Seth is Christ Resurrected. It all points to Him 🙏
Like a man falling in love with a woman the first time he lay eyes on her even so I have fell in love with Ha Torah and Hashem Yahuah. He have given me a song and in that song I call unto Yahshua for help. I want to help my people and lead them out of the darkness that have held us captives for many years during the Atlantic slave trade. The aftermath of slavery have robbed us of our identity and roots. We don't know the name of our great great fathers and mothers we lost trace if everything. I am Jamaican and I want to be a true rabbi and direct all those who would believe on the name of Yahshua to keeping Torah in Jamaica. I need help I would like to start a congregation built upon the Torah and Besorah that believers was commissioned to spread at the four corners of Ha Eretz (the earth). Can you help me?.
Thank you. I love the Torah and the interpretations provide to us through the Hebrew and Aramaic languages
@@D.O.P.E.Podcast Thank you for watching and sharing with us what you love. Be blessed, Shalom
Where is 4th chodesh table. Most interested in 5th
@@carlcisc1706 Should both go up tomorrow. Sorry for the delay. Yom 4 Part 3 is scheduled to go public tonight at 10PM central time. It's been a busy schedule for both the website and the KZread channel. When you view Part 3 you'll understand why we were pushing for tonight US time, and sunrise Jerusalem time. Thank you for letting us know you are looking forward to it.🙏
Both the 4th and 5th are now available. www.thedisciplestable.com/4th-chodesh-2024
U NEED TO GO STUDY ORIGINAL IBAR, The MOON AND SUN WERE NOT CREATED ON4TH DAY
@@ditinistreetleaguetv4528 we will be discussing that in the next video. וַיַּעַשׂ אֱלֹהִים אֶת־שְׁנֵי הַמְּאֹרֹת הַגְּדֹלִים אֶת־הַמָּאוֹר הַגָּדֹל לְמֶמְשֶׁלֶת הַיּוֹם וְאֶת־הַמָּאוֹר הַקָּטֹן לְמֶמְשֶׁלֶת הַלַּיְלָה וְאֵת הַכּוֹכָבִים׃
Very Interesting! Finally someone addressing The millenniums affecting the cal!
I'm also trying to Learn Hebrew..... You say' he is saying he is pointing to the Father? So he is speaking of himself as the 🕯️.......? Yom the 4th hebrew word.
We love to receive your other studies🎉
More are being prepared. It does take time. Thank you for your encouragement. ❤️
Amazing study We are from Horeb biblical Hebrew school in India
Thank you for sharing with your group and telling us where you are from ❤ India. It is so nice to hear from you. Blessings.
Take note on the line “precept upon precept” from Isaiah : This really is a passage of mocking and judgment. “Line upon line” and “precept upon precept” is the way of folly and gibberish, …and actually you do a deeper study …I think it is something like utter gibberish, words that could not be translated…just mimicking some words. Isaiah was making up words that was gibberish to mock the spiritual leaders, and teachers
You offer an interesting perspective. When I reread the text in its full context it seems that what Isaiah was saying was that scripture was written in such away that one had to gather the information from various places in order to understand the whole. Perhaps simular to Yeshua speaking in parables. Mat 13:13 - “Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. Mat 13:14 - “And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says: ‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, And seeing you will see and not perceive; Mat 13:15 - For the hearts of this people have grown dull. Their ears are hard of hearing, And their eyes they have closed, Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, So that I should heal them. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts
Evolve. You reside in ignorance from minds of other sophists. You understand Aleph, right? Then you know it stands as a sign of a bull and ox. You also understand Beth, right? House. "House of Baal" is the Aleph-beth "phenomenology of the spirit". Do not be so ignorant so as to not draw the lines here. This foundation is NOT of YH. Also, the wisdom is again testifying against these "houses". For on them now is the word synagogue. Synagogue, from Greek SYN(sun)+agogos(to lead)= the SUN LEADS. Does it? YH wants to know. You take your study from these houses I know. Stop teaching vanity and falseness. Only truth and what is right should be taught by only the qualified.
For others reading this comment it might be helpful to understand What do the Sophists believe? They were secular atheists, relativists and cynical about religious beliefs and all traditions. They believed and taught that "might makes right". They were pragmatists trusting in whatever works to bring about the desired end at whatever the cost. We don't agree that we "reside in ignorance from minds of other sophists." We quite understand that not everyone will like what is offered at this table. Still, everyone has been invited.
Wonderful wonderful wonderful. Thank you Lord. Thank you all who were moved in time and planned for this time.
I am learning biblical Hebrew on my own, and I find this particle, את, does not have meaning, but I don't believe it. Hebrew goes in the same structure or grammatical order as in Spanish, and for me it is very easy to understand because of my Spanish. Thank you very much. And thank you very much for your very important videos!!
Thank you for the encouragement. You are to be commended for learning Hebrew. Reading scripture in the Hebrew language is so beneficial since it broadens our understanding of the text. Blessings to you.
@@thedisciplestable5215 Dear The Disciples Table, Thank you for your response. I appreciate it very much! Looking forward to your next video on the translation of "et" or "eit" את By this I mean, the grammatical meaning, the usage in a sentence or in sentences. Since I've been involved in understanding the Scripture in Hebrew I have discovered many great areas where the translation was obscure in English, then I go to the Hebrew and "bingo" I see the clear picture. It is wonderful, super wonderful to be able to go to a language that at the beginning was almost impossible because this mother tongue is so unique and old. But the only incentive to me is to understand better the Word of God. God bless you, and thank you for reading, and for being a light to the world. I appreciate your love for the Word of God!
Dear The Disciples Table, why don't you give the meaning of את ?? Since this word was not translated into English, but you know its meaning in Hebrew, would you let us know what you understand of it ??!!
Further along in the video we show a graphic that lists the various ways את is found in scripture. It is not only a particle, but a preposition, and also used for pronouns. Perhaps your question is asking for the one and only meaning of את. If that is the case, it's a bit more involved than that. Two verses come to mind: Jhn 12:35 - Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth. And, Exo 3:14 -"And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you". Therefore if pressed for one meaning, the short answer would be "light".
The LORD bless you and keep you and your family 🙌🏻
To you and yours as well. Thank you for your kindness.
@@thedisciplestable5215 🙏🏻
You said in YOU if you passed the test. Can you please elaborate ?
Great question! The Greek word Paul uses here is δόκιμος (dokimos) Strong: G1384 GK: G1511 proved, tried; approved after examination and trial, Rom. 16:10; Jas. 1:12; by impl. acceptable, Rom. 14:18 You might glean further insight by reading the following Mounce translation: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%2013:6-8&version=MOUNCE. Perhaps this will be helpful to others that might be asking the same question.
Thank you. I really enjoyed this. See you Sunday in class.:)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Could you please enlighten me on how you got the days number for each sign? like Fishes 37 days?
In that year there were 37 days. We have since discovered that this isn't always the case. We use the prime meridian. Take a look at each chodesh posted at TheDisciplesTable.com to see what we observed last year up to present. We will be coming out with an updated and revised video after we complete the Yom 4 series. It was actually during our production of Yom 4 that we refined the means to observe His instructions to Moshe. We also have written several blogs on the website too since creating videos takes time.
@@thedisciplestable5215 Thank you so much! I will take a look!🙏
if God named the stars why are the planets named for pagan gods?
Excellent question. Some of the names of these stars/aka planets are found written in scripture. Unfortunately, just about everthing has been reworked, renamed by man over the years, centuries, and millenniums. When doing research we try to work backwards to get an idea of what may have been the original name or at the very least original intent. Even the constellations that we know today have, in many cases been renamed.Astronomers predominantly use the "Western" sky culture of names so often used today. But we dig deeper and look at the Arabic sky culture to see what be unchanged, like the scorpion and the Lion. The star we know as Arcturus is one of the stars we can find in scripture, in Hebrew. Even the chodeshim originally numbered in scripture but man decided to assign them names. Hope this helps to answer your question.
I saw Rabbi Jason Sobel talk about this word as well. He said in the Hebrew it could literally be translated "by consent of the son" the world was created. He said that Jesus consented to the creation knowing that man would fall and he would have to die. That as well, makes this even more amazing to me. God could have decided not to create us knowing we would fail. But he loved us before any of us were ever born. MIND BLOWING! Even the selection of the language of Hebrew for Abraham's descendants is part of God's plan. There are hidden messages all over the Old Testament scriptures. Thank you for sharing this and for teaching these things clearly. I used to love God's word in a half-hearted way. Now I'm in awe of it. It is ALIVE to those who know God it teaches us so much when we study it.
Love your insight. This is truly the reason this channel is here. To share the awesomeness of our Creator! Hopefully it is just what is needed to inspire each of us to keep seeking Him.
I absolutely love this!
Thank you for letting us know! Blessings
My head was spinning, i need to understand this,😔
We agree, there is a lot of detail in this video. Take your time, pause or screenshot during the parts that need to be reviewed to understand. We are preparing Rediscovering Elohim's Timepiece-The Exodus and will try to take it slower so that it might be easier and less of a head spin. Thank you for watching and leaving your comment so we can tailor the next video.
You were doing so good. Then you said," in fact the earth is moving". We actually have a ton of bible apps now days, its simple, just type in a bible search the Passages and read those scriptures: Immovable, Stable, shall not be moved. Never in Scripture will you find that the Earth moves. TAKE Joshua Chapter 10 for Example, He commands the Sun to Stand Still, wait what, were taught in school that the Earth rotates around the Sun. Hmmm... Beleive your Bible over what Man has Brought to you to learn and know. What did Jesus Say about Deception, weve all fallen victim to it, because thats what weve been taught, A Spiining Globe that Revolves Around the Sun, and moves through the Milky way Galaxy to a never ending end. Come on, you had me reeled, speaking truth, till you said this. WAKE UP❕
Let me add this little bit. If you beleive the Word of God, in Genesis, the beginning, when he created, then rested on the 7th day. The Sun, Moon, and Stars were Created in the firmament on the 4th day. If the Earth he created before the 4th day, how can the Earth revolve around something that had not been created yet?
No man is good. We try our best. We are sorry that a few words were so distracting. Fortunately it's His Truth we can depend on. You are not alone in your criticism of this point. We will endeavor to do better. Shalom.
What about the connection with the feastdays of Lev.23 and the first sheaf offer. There was a ripe first sheaf offer required after Pascha. Could you explain what is the first Abib with the first Aviv?
The 2nd letter in the Hebrew aleph bet is ב, bet has 2 sounds, "v" and/or "b". Therefore it is spelled sometimes Aviv, and other sources refer to it as Abib. It is the same month. Hope this answers your question? Thank you for watching and asking questions.
Thanks for your answer. Abib/Aviv means: Strong's h24 - Lexical: אָבִיב - Transliteration: abib - Part of Speech: Noun Masculine - Phonetic Spelling: aw-beeb' - Definition: fresh, young ears, also Canaanite name for the first month of the Jewish calendar. - Origin: From an unused root (meaning to be tender); green, i.e. A young ear of grain; hence, the name of the month Abib or Nisan. - Usage: Abib, ear, green ears of corn (not maize). - Translated as (count): of Abib (5), Abib (1), heads of (1), in the head (1). This means the green ears needs to be in the head of the plant to be ready for offering as written in Lev 23:9 9And LORD JEHOVAH spoke with Moshe and said to him: 10“Speak with the children of Israel and say to them: ‘Whenever you shall enter to the land that I give to you and you have harvested its harvest, bring a sheaf of the first fruits of your harvest to the Priest: 11And you shall dedicate the sheaf before LORD JEHOVAH to be acceptable, and after another day the Priest shall dedicate it. This is telling me the first month is Abib the head of the months and in that month they needed to offer a first sheaf offer which is Abib/Aviv. This is a reference to Yeshuah because Yeshuah is our first Sheaf Offer for all of us on the cross. I like to see more relation to the feasts in your next video.
Strong's definition is very useful. It was indeed a Cannanite word. It is important to note that it was the condition of the sheaf that denotes Aviv. In the year of the Exodus Aviv was in March. In Judaism most will recognize Aviv in April this year because emphasis is now placed on the month name Aviv. We are watching the daily reports of the progress of the sheaves in Israel now. We believe that they will be ready before April. We'll see. Thank you for the interest in the Feast Days. We continue to work on Yom 4 and Rediscovering Elohim's Timepiece-The Exodus.
just wow! I'm a 5th child as well and I often wondered why there were constellations. Now I know.
The 13 Month Yahuah provides right on time. It’s Ophiuchus ⛎ and it’s hidden because of what it represents. Aether, spirit, sky, creative healer.
Yes it is obscured. Since the definition of a month is 29/30 days were you able to find scriptural support for a 13 month?
My question is how do you start your year without the sign of the years end (equinox) first? The progression of the equinoxes is common knowledge and the only way we can SEE the completed circuit of the sun is with the straight line shadow.
The completed circuit does not start nor end with the equinox. But the equinox is always in the 1st chodesh of chodeshim. We are currently working on "Rediscovering Elohim's Timepiece -The Exodus" as part of the Yom 4 series. It will be helpful to see this when it is uploaded. Thank you for watching and asking good questions.
I do not understand how you can say equinox does not start or end the year but then say it is always in the 1st chodesh. At the time of Adam it was in Taurus, at Exodus in Aries and since Mashiach Pisces and is heading for Aquarius in the near future. We cannot pick an arbitrary year and then jump a whole chodesh especially when we don't have Scriptural reference as to exactly when or where the divisions of the Mazzaroth are. The years are all equal and the only way to see it with the naked eye is to observe the turning (tequfah) of the year.
@@relaxalittle7765 it is a challenging subject. It has been a journey to understand this. One thing that helped was finding the eclipse. Then understanding what the straight and narrow path was and is. If we thought we could explain it easily we would have already written a blog about it on Thedisciplestable.com page. Be patient, it's coming. In the days of Moses and until the 4th millennium they did see what to look for in the stars in the evening before the 1st day. Today we have available to us a different tool. The equinox in the 1st year of the Exodus came AFTER the 1st day. If you use the equinox only as an indicator to start the year where in scripture does it tell you when the next chodesh begins? It is not "easy" to understand but once understood it opens up further revelations throughout scripture. Shalom.
The "fixed" background Stars are a practical measure, but the March equinox is not determined nor measured against the Stars (although _much_ easier to locate against the stars). The March Equinox is the point (vector) where the path of the Sun (ecliptic) crosses the rotation of the earth (equator, daily apparent motion of the stars if you prefer)
The full moon of Nisan immediately follows the March Equinox. Otherwise a prior thirteenth month is inserted (Adar II or Beta).
This is all good, but it needs to be based on biblical cosmology, a flat stationary earth
Thank you for leaving a comment. You are not alone in your suggestion. We're glad you found some the content good. Presently the focus has been days, years, millenniums, and looking up into the heavens. We might address your concerns after we complete the rest of the series. Thank you for sharing what you feel needs to be addressed. Shalom.
@@thedisciplestable5215 thre reason is because there was a globe pic in your presentation, when I see that, I see 1/2 truth
@@ezbless100 I understand that image can be offensive to some. I encourage you to focus on what is good. There are many searching for the truth. It reinforces why "images" were discouraged as they distract from the Truth. Thank you for your patience.
Do you have an email? Are you a teacher? Can I find out your credentials? Are you a lay person that just loves the word? I appreciate your thoughts on this topic. Sandra Richter in the Epic of Eden shares this view or close to it.
I would be considered a lowly lay person. I have recently shared some information with rabbis in Israel. While their reaction is one of interest, they include in their response, "what are your credentials"? My response was: same as David perhaps. As far as I know he didn't have any "credentials". He was chosen and led by the spirit. But the responsibility of sharing is HUGE! This channel will not rush to upload anything that is not weighed heavily and seen as beneficial to the body. I am not offended by your question. In fact, it is welcomed. It helps others who may have similar questions. I apologize for the very tardy reply. We have been busy working on Yom 4, which has been our focus since last March. We are just now working on the editing of the narrations. Please visit TheDisciplesTable.com and use the contact form to send an email. Thank you for watching and being kind enough to leave a positive comment. Blessings to you.
I appreciate your humility and encourage you to continue. 👍
Great job.
Very confusing.
I think i missed something, but when you reference the moon to find moedim, why do you use a full moon?
Sorry, to have missed this comment. We have found that both the new/concealed and the full are for moedim. We are working on Rediscovering Elohim's Timepiece - The Exodus as well as Yeshua's birth. When these are available, it is our hope that these will make the argument clearer to all who are interested. Thank you for your question.
Have you heard of the idea of an inscription prophecy? This is YHVH hiding phrases in lists of names. You may be familiar with the sentence created using the names of the patriarchs from Adam to Noah. Have you found any other inscription prophecies hidden in the family trees presented here? There is also an inscription prophecy hidden in the names of the 12 Davidic captains who had the defense of the city of David.
Yes. One is in the order of King David's sons. Use the last letters. I am interested in what you have to share. Can you go to TheDisciplesTable.com and send an email to me? Thank you very much for sharing!!!!!!
On my channel Cain Vs Abel Seth and Enos is a prophecy. See what you think.
Check jerome's fraudulent additional-terminus REVELATION 9:11
Chad, can you give me a little more direction on what you want me to look at? Is there a commentary you are referring to, or should I just look again at verse 11 in the KJV?
What is your background? What is your research source. I don't understand some of your comments in the class we are sharing...Discovering the Hebrew Bible: The Torah. This is all very new to me.
It was all new to me alittle over 5 years ago. I was participating in a 9 month Bible study that was international. They were studying Revelation. I did my homework everyday to answer their questions only to have them lead me to my own. I was raised in the American Baptist church. So my biggest question was when is the Sabbath day? When I got my answer and began to honor it my life began to change. Here is a link for more information about me. I enjoy sharing what I am learning. No doubt this is why you are also in the class. Thank you for reaching out. I am always learning. www.thedisciplestable.com/about
I have been trying to contact you via your website about how exactly you establish constellation boundaries. I have seen what you have written on your website.However I cannot seem replicate Nodus 1 being on the meridian and also the ecliptic on the 18 May 2023. Also it is not clear to me why the IAU boundaries are unreliable, I know it was only formalised in 1930, but why specifically is it wrong? I would appreciate if you could respond.
We might be using different latitudes and longitude. I have several appointments today. When I am freed up I'll follow through with your question.
@@thedisciplestable5215 Possibly, however, the latitude and longitude I used is from stellarium (North 31 degrees 46 minutes 8.54 secs East 35 degrees 12 minutes 56.79 secs respectively). This should be the co-ordinates for Jerusalem, Israel. Whilst from this location, the star Nodus 1 does indeed appear on the the Meridian line, but the ecliptic does not intersect there. However your Starry Night Pro Plus 8 screen-shot shows that Nodus 1 is on the intersect. I cannot see your latitude or longitude, only your ecliptic longitude and latitude, which if I am not mistaken is a co-ordinate position on the ecliptic not the Earth . Even if Nodus 1 is on the intersect of the meridian and the ecliptic how does that relate to the Sun entering into the sign of the Bull? I am very confused! clearly I have much to learn. Also what is the significance of the meridian line anyway, is that not just arbitrary line , could'nt this line be anywhere?
I greatly appreciate your persistence. I began this reply last Friday. However, I delayed sending it on to you until I had a reply to my own question that I submitted to the software company that supports Starry Night Pro Plus 8. Sadly, they still have not responded to my question. I do not want you to wait any longer. Here is what I can say at this point. Your inability to replicate the data on May 18th has now shown me that I did not understand that the software program was showing me the “ecliptic meridian”. This is not to be confused with the “ecliptic”. However, I in fact confused the two. I will update the blog to make clear this very distinctive difference. To be honest, the next step I needed to take before replying to you was to get a clear definition of the term, ecliptic meridian (which I am now still waiting for). I could not find the answer in the software’s user guide. Note: I do not see where I can select the ecliptic meridian in Stellarium. This will certainly set these two software programs apart in this regard. I was able to replicate the image and arrive at the same data and will attempt to share the image saved on July 21, 2023. This alone is encouraging. I am still trying to determine If these software programs generate consistent data, Software used: Starry Night Pro Plus 8 Observation Date: May 18, 2023 Time: 2:06:22AM Location: 6 meters over Jerusalem (Latitude: 32° 0.219' N Longitude: 35° 15.160' E) Intersection of the meridian and the “ecliptic meridian” Nodus 1 It is not for certain that the IAU boundaries are ENTIRELY unreliable or “wrong”. We continue to keep an eye on their (IAU) boundaries as we go along. Afterall, though using the moon to establish the rosh chodesh is in error, it does help us in some ways to know that this too can be useful information. For instance, it would indeed be notable if there was a day in the future when all methods agreed. I believe this is true for certain events in the past. The reason for the decision was because of their inclusion of Ophiuchus. Its placement does and will continue to affect recognizing when the sun enters the chodesh of The Archer. If we were to rely on when these software programs state that the sun enters The Archer, it would be wrong. We discovered this affect when working on Rediscovering Elohim’s Timepiece - The Flood. This made us consider that there might be more errors by using the IAU boundaries not at first realized. We may in fact find that some of the boundaries established by the IAU fall in line with our observations. In fact, this year Stellarium specifies that July 21st is the 1st day that the sun enters The Crab. That might be true. But July 17, and 18th are also a possibility. Time will tell. Our desire is to seek out the answers in all humility. Therefore, we expect this venture to take time to show consistency. But even that expectation might be more than one can hope for. Why? Because if “on earth as it is in heaven” is taken literally, then just as man has fallen off the straight and narrow path, what if the stars in the heavens have also done the same? It is indeed a point to consider. And, perhaps why the “calendar” was not emphasized throughout scripture. But just as it is on earth…. not all have fallen away, there is always a remnant. So, is there a remnant in heaven that we can firmly ascertain what day it is? Praying that it is so. We considered these verses for making the decision to seek an alternative method for discovering the 1st day for each of the chodeshim: Genesis 1:14 Deuteronomy 5:29 Job 35:5 Isaiah 55:8 Proverbs 4:11 Matthew 2:2
@The Disciples Table, I have looked for the 'Genesis 7 A Counting of Days' video and can't find it. Will you share it here in the comments? Thank you!
As we worked on Rediscovering Elohim's Timepiece "The Flood" we decided to take it down. We felt that it was obsolete now that we had a better reckoning of Elohim's Timepiece. We will continue to update material as we move forward. In the future we will try to extract portions from Genesis 7 Acounting of Days, to give it our best current understanding. But as you know we are moving on to Yom 4 now. It is difficult to work on both at the same time.
@@thedisciplestable5215 Okay; so refresh my memory on where to find how you determined that the year began in the autumn during the time of Noah? I've been tracing your videos to better understand that piece and tracked the source all the way back to the 'Genesis 7 A Counting of Days video', which is no longer available. Do you explain it in detail in another of your more recent videos?
@@GB0915 There are 2 types of years in Elohim’s Timepiece, Civil and Ecclesiastical. So there are only 2 choices for the placement of the flood. We hope that Rediscovering Elohim's Timepiece-The Flood provides sufficient details to show that the start of the flood is marked by the civil year. You ask good questions and we will keep this in mind as we continue the series. The civil years are also important in navigating the 4th millennium. Exodus 34:22 22 "Keep the Feast of Weeks with the first cutting of the wheat harvest, and the Feast of Ingathering at the turn of the year. (turn of the year Noun. Approximately at the end of one year and the beginning of the next.)
Hey, what happened to Yom 4- 12 Baskets? I don't see videos on those. This was a good video, though, as are those discussing Yom 1-3.
Still have to get to them. We were led to introduce "Rediscovering Elohim's Timepiece" before moving on to Yom 4 because the Timepiece is a major foundation that must be understood before presenting the 4th millennium.
I was just rewatching your video and trying understand how you got 150 days from 17th day of the second chodesh to the 17th day of the of the seventh Chodesh. From the 17 th day of the second Chodesh to end of the second Chodesh is 6 days as the Scales has 23 days, if you inclusively count on the 17 day when the fountains of the deep broke up and the windows of heaven were opened, then thus would give you 7 days, but your graphic shows 18 days!! Also the Scorpion has 25 days, but graphic shows 27 days, the Archer has 33 days your graphic has 25 days, the Sea Goat has 27 days your graphic shows 38 days. I think the correct calc is 7+25+33+27+25+17=134 days. Can you explain where I have gone wrong as I cannot get 150 days. Oddly enough though, if I use the Ram as the second Chodesh (as per scripture) this has 26 days so the remaining days are 9, Bull 38 days, Twins 29 days, Crab 21 days, Lion 37 days Virgin 17 days. This all adds to 151 days this seems a lot closer. With only 1 day out I feel sure there is a boundary issue somewhere. I will check this over the coming months. For me this seems to vindicate the scriptures and shows the Rabi's tradition is wrong. That said if your 150 days calculation is somehow right then I standed corrected, but based on what I have shown you I cannot see it. I would love to know your take on my calcs. Shalome.c
Thank you for rewatching and giving it such scrutiny. Your questions are sure to benefit some who read the comments. There are a few places in the video that can lead to confusion, and since our God is not a god of confusion, we must likewise strive to clear up this as much as is possible. The Ram is the 2nd chodesh only in the Age of The Fishes. It was in fact the 1st chodesh in the days of Moses, and it served as the 6th chodesh in the days of Noach. This is the very reason Elohim numbered the chodeshim and did not give them names. They shift over time. Scorpion has 25 days. Correct, remember this is the first chodesh in the days of Noach. The count in the graphic begins in the second chodesh. There is no counting of the days under the sign of the Scorpion. The Archer (2nd chodesh) has 34 days. The days not to be included in the count are 16. 34 - 16 = 18. The graphic shows 27 because this 3rd chodesh (Kid Goat) is 27 days, the 4th chodesh 25 days (the Water Bearer), the 5th chodesh shows 38 days (The Fishes). The count is 18+27+25+38+25+17= 150 What is bound to confuse viewers in this video is the animated graphic of the sun traveling through the ecliptic in various places throughout the video. (1:43-1:56, 22:27-22:36). This animation was a clip that we created in house and uploaded back on May 6, 2021, for the video “The True Meaning of Chodesh”. At that time these number of days were our understanding based on the published work of “The Way Biblical Fellowship” and only for that current year of 2021. However, over the last three years we have learned far more about the timepiece. So, in short, those days shown in the animated graphic do NOT use the same perimeters as those used for “The Flood”. We only edited this older clip animation at the 22:27-22:36 mark to remove the dates which would cause confusion. Your comments were a great benefit to us. Once we read your comment, we took a closer look and found that we had listed the 23rd day of the 7th chodesh (The Bull) twice in our excel sheet, which gave us a day count of 38 when it needed to be 39 in the days of Noach. We have since corrected this and uploaded the revised pdf file to our website. You might find this file helpful. Thank you for your questions and testing out the information shared. www.thedisciplestable.com/post/part-2-the-flood
@@thedisciplestable5215 Thanks so much for your swift response. It now works perfectly, hallelujah! This also clears up the first question I had which was , "Please can you explain how we know from the bible that in the days of Noah, the first chodesh was determined by the day when the sun entered the sign in which the autumnal equinox was present.?". The simple answer is there is no other way to get 150 days precisely, with the exception of assuming 30 day months which is not biblical, whereas the passage of the sun through the 12 Chodeshim is the very definition of a year. It is also observable and testable with no need to intercalate.
I'm curious: How is it that someone who is _so_ well studied in His Word (and _not_ man's "teachings") believes instead the _heliocentric model_ that was given to us _by man_ as opposed to believing the [flat, enclosed,] _geocentric model_ that was given to us by _the Father?_ There are only _two_ verses in Scripture that could be said to support heliocentricism; and yet, even then, those verses have to be twisted out of context in order to fit that model. Whereas there are over _two hundred_ verses in Scripture that unmistakably describe the flat, enclosed, geocentric model of the cosmos. It pains me to see you be so 'on the mark' with SO many aspects of His Word and yet simultaneously be of the belief that the cosmos is as _man_ describes it to be and _not_ how _the Father_ describes it to be. It is my sincere hope that you are simply honestly unaware of the truth of biblical cosmology. For when you would discover the truth of it to a sufficient degree, you will see that it is undoubtedly the truth of things and you will never again [be able to] take a serious gander at man's (which is to ultimately say: satan's) model of the cosmos: heliocentrism. I pray you take my comment here to heart. For I am not trying to rebuke, lambast, or embarrass you. I am only seeking to edify you; for you seem to be, for the most part, _very_ well in-tune with what His Word is saying over what man is saying. I hope this message reaches your heart and takes root there, for I speak nothing but the truth to you. I was once a "devout" atheist; _nothing_ could shake me from that mindset. I practically worshipped technology and "the fuuutuuuure." But in Feb '16, the Father sent me down a rabbit hole, the likes of which I _NEVER_ would have _ever_ taken seriously. And yet, half a year later, after _much_ researching, I found Scripture to be true (via discovering the truth of biblical cosmology) and thus I believed and was saved. Seven years later, I now know _so_ much more about our cosmos and how it works. And honestly, it's beautiful.. _truly_ beautiful... Again, please take my words to heart and look into biblical cosmology. I help run a community for it over on reddit and I would be more than happy to answer any questions you may have about it. reddit.com/r/BiblicalCosmology May the Father bless you and continue to grow you in your understanding of His Word in contrast to what _man_ (satan) would have us believe. -Will Maybe posting my answer in my original comment will work. The first of the two misinterpreted verses: Isaiah 40:22 biblehub.com/isaiah/40-22.htm The first half of this verse is misconstrued so as to fit the heliocentric narrative. “Oh, it says circle, so that means He is describing a ball/sphere.” Not so. The word used here is ‘circle’ and not ‘ball.’ And, knowing that people would debate this, He left us proof, in the same book no less, that He didn’t use the wrong word; for in Isaiah 22:18, He uses the word ‘ball’ in clear reference to the motions that would be expected from such a geometrical shape of a ball as opposed to a [flat] circle. As I’m sure you know, His Word is _perfectly_ deliberate, using the exact words He means to use. The second of the two misinterpreted verses: Job 26:7 biblehub.com/job/26-7.htm Many people use this verse as a proof that the earth is suspended in the void of space, though they are unconsciously basing their interpretation on a teaching that they don’t know is false; thus they inevitably arrive at the wrong interpretation. Here, the Father is telling us that the earth _isn’t_ hung from or suspended over anything. He is telling us that the earth isn’t suspended from above, but is rather supported from beneath (via the four pillars of the earth, spoken of in multiple places). Much like how a footstool isn’t hung from or suspended over anything, but is rather resting upon its foundations (the footstool’s legs), the earth likewise is resting upon its foundations (pillars) and is _not_ hung or suspend from above as in how a coat is hung by a coat hanger. As for the 200+ verses, here you go: www.worldslastchance.com/biblical-christian-beliefs/flat-earth-bible-verses-more-than-200.html Please read it in full, and without bias or preconception. Further: an excerpt from the above, as a response to another commenter informing you that Scripture says the earth is fixed and immovable: Earth is fixed and immovable: 1 Chronicles 16:30, Psalm 33:9, Psalm 93:1, Psalm 96:10, Psalm 104:5, Psalm 119:89-90, Isaiah 14:7, Isaiah 45:18, Zechariah 1:11, Luke 8:17, Hebrews 11:10, 2 Peter 3:5 [earth standing] They failed to provide the verses you rightly requested. I’m here to pick up their slack and show that they indeed knew what they were talking about even though they, for one reason or another, failed to provide you with the requisite verses. Please take all of this with an open mind and a sincere heart.
We welcome everyone to this table ,so as to share. Please share the 2 verses vs over 200 verses that you refer to.
@@thedisciplestable5215 For some reason, although I've tried time and again to reply to your comment, my response doesn't seem to be loading on the page after I post it. I can happily email it to you, for I believe that 'wickedness in high places' is working against the truth being posted for all to see. Actually: I’ll simply try to post it as a new comment thread, so that others can see it as well.
Try using the website here:www.thedisciplestable.com/contact-8
@@thedisciplestable5215 as it currently stands, it seems I was able to successfully post my answer here in this comment section after all, though I had to do so in the form of simply tacking it on to the bottom of my original comment. I did also email you already though, though I used the email attached to this KZread channel. I apologize that it was not a business inquiry.
And a special thank you for reading the other comments and answering the request when the other party did not. My spirit told me then that someone would pick up where the other left off. Please don't expect an immediate response to the indepth verse references. But be assured they all will be reviewed in the Hebrew text and hebraic mindset. Thank you for your efforts. May peace be with you.
I know I comment a lot, but only because I'm searching for answers, too. One thing that's not explained is how the giants/Nephilim came to be. Could I share what I've been discovering? Just now I looked up the Hebrew word for giant & huge, which turns out to be Ank (ענק), which is related to the Anakim in scripture. The numerical value of Ank is 220, which is close to the number of angels that fell on Mt. Hermon according to the book of Enoch. The number for Nephilim (henfiles, הנפילים, in Hebrew) is only valued at five more, at numerical value of 225. The name Jared means "to go down", or "to descend", as in down a mountain. Just like Peleg's name relates to an event that happened in his lifetime (in his days the earth was divided), couldn't Jared/Yared's name also relate to the event of some beings' descent down a mountain during his lifetime? Further, Genesis six does not specify that the sons of God saw the women were beautiful during Noah's life nor does it specify that they saw they were beautiful from the days of Seth or even Yared - and then subsequently married any of them they chose. It simply says, WHEN men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them. We can only speculate the timeline on when God said they began to increase in number. Jared was born just a short 460 years after Adam and 330 years after Seth, and we can only guess how many years after Cain. Considering they had children, on average, at 90+ yrs old up to that point, why wouldn't the increase of men have started at Jared rather than earlier? One more thing to note is that Jared was the sixth generation from Adam. Six (6) ==> man ==> This correlates to the pattern in which there was an increase in population during the sixth (6) millennium. Just like there was an increase in population in the sixth millennium, it is likely that the population began increasing drastically during the sixth generation of mankind, especially since Jared lived 962 years past the 460th year of the earth. Just something else to consider. One last question I have been pondering is how a man born from Seth's lineage (son of God) take a wife from Cain's lineage (son of man) and produce the Nephilim/a race of giants?
I really found your video very interesting, very fast pace and educational. I have a question about this year 2023 was / is the vernal equinox on March 20 2023. I believe it to be true based on my research. (But not 100% sure) if so, is it considered day one (1) of the new year. If I'm right then I'll be able track all of the feasts for the whole year based on March 20. Correct or not please put together if you are willing a short video for your viewers ref the start of the biblical year 2023. I believe it would help us worship on the correct appointed times. Thank you
Thank you. Time, and how one uses it is perhaps the most valuable commodity today. So we appreciate your taking the time to watch this and finding it interesting and educational. You are correct, March 20th in 2023 was the day of the vernal equinox. But this event did not set the beginning of the year. It is and always has been the sun's first day entering into the sign in which the vernal equinox is (for the ecclesiastical year in which all the feasts are governed by). Here is a link to The Disciples Table's website. We aim to post each of the chodeshim for 2023. We are working on the 2nd chodesh now and should have it posted at the end of the week. We are grateful for your interest. www.thedisciplestable.com/2023-24-chodeshim
Here is a link to the upcoming chodesh timeline. We encourage you to watch part 2 "The Flood" if you haven't already. www.thedisciplestable.com/copy-of-2023-24-chodeshim
We attend Jared's Hebrew A open class on Thursday night. How much research have you done on the Mazeroth?
How much is a challenging question. There is always so much to learn. My focus has been on the Timepiece and the stars themselves, locations, and size. I've gleaned from several resources over the span of the last 5 years. Thanks for taking a look at this video Jeff.
I ask because my knowledge of it is very limited, this fascinating stuff, I am of the opinion the Mazeroth is an important resource we have lost.
Agreed. Your comment has me reflecting on the journey that I've been on. I once lived in New Jersey, in a rural part of the county where I could see the stars all the time. But when I moved to Texas in 2004, I moved to a pretty popular "suburb" outside of Dallas, called Frisco. I could no longer see the stars within two years of moving there. So when I built a new home in 2014 in East Texas I was finally able to see the stars again. One extraordinay night of stars happened as I looked up from my window after my home had been finished being built. I remember that night. In that moment, I knew that if the knowledge of the stars was understood once before, could it be again? Then, that same night, I shared with Elohim that I would love to have that understanding someday. It wasn't a "prayer" per say, but more so a desire. I have been so blessed that He heard me. I'm still learning. Now I am eager to share what I am coming to understand. For surely there are others like me who are asking, albeit few. Thank you Jeff for giving me an opportunity to reflect on the beginnings of that journey. We should never forget where we started from. Blessings to you.
One thing I'm curious about is why Scorpio is mentioned as the first Chodesh rather than Libra, as the sign associated with Tishrei (1st Chodesh) is the scales/Libra.
Based on some of your previous comments, we think you are still in a mindset of "months" and not chodeshim. Further, you are using Tishrei and The Scales as a pairing in the Age of Pisces. This was not the case in the Age of The Bull. This is explained in this video. Thank you for your question.
It is interesting in that on May 14, 1948 when Israel became a nation using this method of time keeping the sun changed from Aires to Taurus beginning the third Rosh Chodesh for the year.
Great share! We took a quick look at when Stellarium says that the Sun entered "The Bull" that year. The time came up with May 13, 1948 @ 4:55:50PM. Here is a diary entry for that day in Israel. May 13, 1948 British troops were withdrawn from their positions protecting the Jewish Quarter in the Old City in the evening. Haganah forces in the Old City occupied the positions vacated by the army. Intermittent firing and sniping began in the Old City at 7 p.m. (www.timesofisrael.com/independence-day-1948-war-diary/) Thanks for taking a look at this! Appreciate the feedback. Shalom
@@thedisciplestable5215 Of course! Shalom:) If this is accurate, the events unfolding here on earth after the Chodesh change are literally coincident with the heavens.
@@CountingfromCaleb We did end this video with an upcoming date, but not with any elaboration. Hopefully we can expound on it before that date. Something to think about is to compare what happened on the 17th day of the 2nd chodesh and what this upcoming 17th day in the 2nd chodesh might point us to. We think a fresh look at this verse found in the newer testaments Romans 11:25 may be something to consider. Yah willing, we will address this in an upcoming video. There is certainly more to come. Thanks again for watching and giving us some great feedback..
@@CountingfromCaleb Nice to read what your focusing on now. Perhaps this is something we should consider taking a closer look at while we are working on the next video. Immediately "cancer" the crab came to mind because in some cultures it is a smaller portion of a bird. Hmmmm. It would be unwise to speculate without doing some due diligence on this topic. Your comments lead to inspiration. Thank you.
@@thedisciplestable5215 Thank you! Great job with your videos! The sky is a big clock we are all trying to read. I looked into this a little more and Yom Teruah begins at sunset on Sep 16 and ends sundown on Sep 17 this year. 10:52:24 on the 17th the sun moves from the constellation Leo into Virgo at that same time. John may have been seeing the beginning of the civil year in the fall versus the religious year beginning in the spring. Very interesting!
I haven't finished watching this so I don't know if you already mention this in the second half of the video, but if not, this is interesting, too. Here's a chart I put together with the months and their meanings. Take a look at the meanings in relation to the flood. Note: The fifth Hebrew month (Leo), Jul/Aug, means harvest, chase, hunt, journey. I wonder if the animals were gathering to be loaded onto the ark at that time. Hebr. mo./Greg. mo./Sign / Aleph / Symbol /Value /Meaning 6 Aug./Sept. Virgo Kuf ק 100 Circle, Time, Condense 7 Sept./Oct. Libra Hey ה 5 reveal, breath grace, mercy 8 Oct./Nov. Scorpio Vav ו 6 establish, man, secure 9 Nov./Dec. Sagittarius zayin ז 7 pierce, food, cut, nourish 10 Dec./Jan Capricorn chet ח 8 inner chamber, protect, divide, wall 11 Jan./Feb. Acquarius tet ט 9 surrounds, twist, contains So if it is correct that it was in Scorpio in which the floodwaters began, then man was established/secure inside the (inner chamber- Capricorn) before the flood came. The Hebrew letter assigned to Aquarius is in the shape of a basket. They were in the basket on the waters for 300+days.
P.S. The Hebrew aleph bet associated with the Mazzaroth tells a story in and of itself. If you look at it from a salvation through Son of Man perspective (Virgo through Leo), you have this message: Sign Aleph symbol Value Meaning Virgo ק 100 God/Time Libra ה 5 Reveals/breathes grace and mercy Scorpio ו 6 to man Sagittarius ז 7 through piercing, Capricorn ח 8 the holy place/veil Acquarius ט 9 that surrounds Pisces י 10 worship and deeds Aries ל 30 Teaching Taurus נ 50 sons Gemini ס 60 to turn asside from hate Cancer ע 70 and seek to understand Leo צ 90to hunt (for the revelation until harvest?) If you look at it from a perspective of instructions given during the Exodus you get this message starting from Leo through Virgo: Instructions given during the Exodus: Leo Hunt Cancer and seek to understand Gemini turn aside from hate. Taurus Heirs Aries Teach Pisces worship and deeds Acquarius which surround Capricorn the holy place/veil (Tabernacle/Temple) Sagittarius through feeding Scorpio man Libra Revealing/breathe grace and mercy Virgo through God/Time From the flood perspective it reads as follows: Scorpio Secure/to man Sagittarius through piercing, Capricorn the holy place/veil Acquarius that surrounds Pisces worship and deeds Aries Bind/Teaching Taurus sons Gemini to turn aside from hate Cancer and seek to understand Leo and to hunt/chase after Virgo God/Time Libra who reveals, breath grace, mercy So no matter where we are in the history of His time, his story is true. With the flood it told of man being secure while the veil of the heavenly tabernacle (division) was pierced by the waters and that thereafter the heirs of man were to turn away from hate/corruption/destruction and to seek God who gives mercy. During the exodus they were shown to seek understanding and to turn away from hate (once again). The heirs were to teach/worship (the Law) around the holy place (Tabernacle) through feeding man (sacrificed lambs, etc) revealing grace and mercy through God (and His Son). During time of Jesus' first coming, the signs read, God reveals to man through piercing (of the final perfect sacrificial lamb) the holy veil that surrounds worship and deeds, teaching sons (both those born and those grafted into the family) to turn aside from hate and seek to understand (the?) harvest/hunt.
One more P.S.S. The fact that the timing of the heavenly luminaries coincided so perfectly with Jesus' crucifixion (the sun was in the ram while the moon was in the scales/law) at exactly 15 days after the sun entered Aries (Abib) means that that was the exact time the last sacrifice was to take place. It was THE final Passover, except only ONE Son died while all others lived. The changing of the constellations over time puts the 15th of Abib (Aries) into May instead of April since the sun enters Aries on April 20th. However, if you keep the season the same (March/April) for the Passover to be celebrated it would have fallen on March 28/22. They no longer line up perfectly like they did from the Exodus (first Passover) through Jesus' crucifixion because Jesus said, "It is finished".
@@GB0915 Interesting. Are the definitions based on the Greek language? Thanks for sharing.
@@lisafoster2528 They're based on the meanings of the Hebrew letters.
We are thrilled that you have started watching. It certainly is a lot of detail. Take your time. Thank you for watching.
Please can you explain how we know from the bible that in the days of Noah, the first chodesh was determined by the day when the sun entered the sign in which the autuminal equinox was present.?
You have most excellently summarized the question that even the ancient sages struggled with and perhaps asked repeatedly. They, and for millenniums, others did not understand the following verse properly: Psalm 104:19 "He made the moon for appointed times; the sun knows its going down." The Bul Moon was the answer. We just had to work backwards to solve the riddle. We believe He is showing us the answers now. Good question. Thank you for asking,
Like was mentioned He is unsealing the riddle. Scripture says its an honor to search out His treasures so too speak. Proverbs 25:2. Blessings