Do not buy from this company. They sue people for leaving factual and accurate reviews on their products.
@alanh44713 сағат бұрын
OMG! Suing a reviewer... Why not offer some of your products to other reviewers and let them have a say? If they say your stuff is great then AllOffroad is not going to look good is it..? Less talk (suing), and do some walk.....
NEVER BUY FROM DCS !!!Fraudulent company that sues people for giving honest reviews of their products (that contained testing and evidence in the video).
@marvinhensbergen151513 сағат бұрын
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@user-gy4et2ln7d14 сағат бұрын
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@navs48514 сағат бұрын
Are you suing people for defamation for honest reviews? I would never purchase from a disgusting company like this. Sorry.
@MayonaiseSailor16 сағат бұрын
Be very careful buying from these guys, you will not find independent reviews of their products, they sues those that review their products if they actually review them and their fails, instead of just spewing their marketing materials
@lok7772 күн бұрын
Crap company, crap products. Resorted to suing people over negative reviews of their crap products.
@OfficialSamuelC2 күн бұрын
Still suppressing negative comments about you falsely suing someone for defamation? Your business reputation has been destroyed in seconds and your business is will now face the same ending as many who have cowardly sued people who may not be able to defend themselves, and that’s bankruptcy. This story is going around the electric car world, fanatics, groups, pages and more. More and more will share that you should avoid DCS at all costs because you can no longer trust they will fix anything under warranty and will sue you if you call them out. You can’t undo this. No apology will fix this. The shady behaviour with editing warrants and legal pages, not updating dates, editing other parts etc show that this is a company wide problem and that it’s your intention to scam and cheat your customers. You’re one of few companies many of us look forward to seeing go bankrupt and we will follow your name on the business registry for any future electric battery businesses you try setup in a different name or work for in a owner/ceo capacity and ensure that business is shared about as much as DCS is and so that business has the same bad reputation as DCS because it will not be trustworthy when the current owners and staff at DCS are at the helm of any business. Wherever the owners and those in charge of the outlets in America, EU etc go, we will follow your life and address and ensure those you’re associated with continue to know you scam people. Just be aware that all your dealers have been notified and are being contacted by hundreds of people about your scamming and lying on policies. Suing a customer one of them sold to. Presenting the evidence to them and we have saved their contact information and are going to update them on every bit of progress in court so they can see when you lose, that you were in the wrong and they can stop being a dealer for you. We have written scripts to automatically email all your dealers daily until they stop selling your product, from different addresses and different emails so there isn’t any way to filter them out without filtering genuine customers emails. Eventually it’ll be less risk and work for them to drop you as a dealer than to keep on dealing with the issues you bring them. You have now brought your company and the gross behaviour to the attention of millions and we intend to bring it to millions more. We are going to maximise SEO and push articles about DCS and this scandal up in search engines so that anyone searching for DCS or Deep Cycle Systems can immediately see the scandals and headlines showing you sued a customer who revealed you lied about warranties and wouldn’t honour. I’m sure that will help convert those looking into you into sales. People deserve to know. We may even pay for Google Ads to show up before your own website when searching for your business with headlines advising people that DCS scams and doesn’t honour their warranty policies and changes them on the fly, and will sue you if you argue against it. And don’t worry, we’ll ensure to set the main demographic to those Google knows are interested in electric cars, lithium batteries and especially those who are in Australia. We’ll soon release a list on Reddit and elsewhere of the email addresses of all your dealers so anyone can quickly drop an email to them informing them about your dirty practices and that if they want any future business they need to drop your company. We’ll then monitor those who suddenly are no longer dealers and give those companies a lot of praise and exposure, whilst doing the opposite for those who continue to sell a product by a company who will scam their customers and sue them. We will make it clear to those dealers that they’re no better if they work with and sell products by a company like that and we will ensure the public know about them as well. So they feel the pressure to drop you. We suggest you at minimum withdraw your lawsuit and apologise, and update your warranty and policies with clear information and an accurate date, and update all customers informing them that the 80% applies to them but that new customers and purchases from the date of the email, that their warranties that the 70% applies. Doing this will mean we stop bothering dealers and you. That way existing customers are all up to date, they have the 80% honoured and are informed of the situation and going forwards it’s up to customers to decide if they want to go with 70% as it will clearly be stated in the website.
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@sh1701-AАй бұрын
Is it compatible with outback inverters and chargers?
@deepcyclesystems12 күн бұрын
Yes indeed they are
@Dr.Anarchy14 сағат бұрын
Don't buy from them , they are an awful company, search up deep cycles system lawsuit and you will be surprised
@red_rocket.3 ай бұрын
Very very nice system. Thanks for the 0% recovery test. I have good knowledge of batteries and 12v stuff for out back traveling and that is a new one for me. That is also a great safety/recovery feature. I love the whole concept you have there. Are they two separate batteries and what happens if one fails? Interesting point about the battery temps up to 76 deg. As you said your batteries will do those types of temps but at a life span cost. This is a very good and informative video thank you. PS. I do run one of your 75ah batteries in my caravan and runs the inverter and coffee machine at 140amp draw very well
@deepcyclesystems3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Confirming yes they are two separate batteries, if one has an issue the system still runs flawlessly on the other battery.
@red_rocket.3 ай бұрын
Good set up. Was it a simple thing to change the Toyota inverter and interior USBs over to the victron set up? Vic high country with batteries at 45 deg is ok. How will this go back in Qld or nth Qld or NT or the desert areas? I see these batteries are rated to 110 deg so I doubt they would be an issue. However, can they sustain the very high desert type temps when slow low range through sand dunes or similar. I guess the life expectancy will be reduced a reasonable amount. ### I just watched your French Line video where you had battery temps up to 76 deg which is just what I was asking about above. As you said your batteries will do those types of temps but at a life span cost. That was a very good and informative video thank you. Do you think that the battery temps would have been much less in a 300 Series?
@deepcyclesystems3 ай бұрын
Yes the access is pretty good in the LC300's. Pretty easy to do. When we first started doing this back in 2015, LFP as a cell chemistry wasn’t anywhere near as advanced as it is today - we can optimise the cycle life, tempereture stability and C rate triangle. But even back then LFP was a superior deep cycle cell chemistry and put AGM for example to shame under high temperature applications. More info here from 2017: www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/the-ultimate-dcs-12v-dual-battery/ Today LFP is the superior cell chemistry for every environment under the sun nothing comes close in 2024 that gap is twice as wide in comparision. So ambitent temperatures up to 80 degrees C is no longer a factor for us, as there is little effects on cell chemical ageing under 80 degrees C. Please note our Battery Management System will run up to 110 degrees C. The cells are not allowed to charge above 80 degrees C, that is tightly managed by the BMS and 2 independent battery cell temperatures, to ensure utmost safety and reliability, which our customers have grown accustomed to. The LC300 is unique its the coolest running engine bay we have ever come across on any 4WD in the world. Mainly attributed to the fact that it's a 'cold' running motor the coolant thermostat is set at 76 degrees C, and ontop of that the turbos have their own dedicated liquid cooling system and after cooling.
@lees58063 ай бұрын
Why does my app say 59% an then. My batter is off an it says charge as soon as possible. But says. 59%. On the app can you please show us a video on how to reset the app?
Nice place, i was camping there on the river last week. How was Billy goat bluff track we heard it was bad so didn't do, to many in the convoy.
@deepcyclesystems4 ай бұрын
Yes it's a nice spot, we had done this trip back in Nov 2023, Billy Goat Bluff Track was fine back then, no idea what it's like now...
@ShoeysAdventures4 ай бұрын
nice, looking for a dual lithium solution in my Prado 150
@deepcyclesystems4 ай бұрын
This is the generic kit here that fits the Prados: www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/product/ultimate-dcs-12v-180ah-dual-battery-system-lithium/
@emu4wdadventures6315 ай бұрын
Great video
@deepcyclesystems4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@davidthomas485 ай бұрын
OK Lithium batteries are beyond my budget, but I want to thank Paul and Dan online for coming to my rescue in the Vic High Country one night last Nov. I was showing the region off to a couple of friends from Switzerland. It rained all the last Friday afternoon as we were heading back out towards Mt Bulla when I tried and failed to get up a short steep, wet and rutted section just before the end of the King Billy Track. I slid back down and ended up axle deep in mud. When it got dark and I finally realised I had no hope of getting out without help (we were winch-less), we walked the last 1km up to the junction with Brookes Rd and Bluff Track, hoping to get a signal to call some mates. We saw Paul and Dan camping just off the road, mid meal under their awning to escape the still-pouring rain. When we told them our troubles, they immediately packed up their dinner, transferred a pile of gear from one of their vehicles to the other to make rooms for us, and we all headed back down to our Cruiser. With their (clearly extensive) recovery know-how and a fantastically equipped Hilux wagon, they had us out of the mud and up the rise onto solid track in no time. Those guys saved us from a very uncomfortable night in the Cruiser and who-knows-what hassle getting someone to come up and pull us out next day. Feel free to ridicule me for being up there in a single vehicle, not having a winch, trusting the forecast for no rain, etc, but I'm only an occasional participant in this fantastic pastime😞. Whatever. What I want to say is these two guys were fantastic, and if their lithium batteries are only half as good as their characters, they'll be bloody good batteries. Thanks again Paul and Dan.
@deepcyclesystems4 ай бұрын
Thanks David, glad to see you made it back home safely. And nice to see an older 100 series still rolling around those mountains. It was very wet that next morning there were more vehicles stuck in the same location as you - so that should make you feel better 😉 Our LC300 High Country trip video was just released: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dIVppKhpl6yqpc4.html
@red_rocket.3 ай бұрын
Good Australian spirit to show your overseas visitors.
@cameronmills89408 ай бұрын
When I grow up I wanna own a DCS battery system in my house and car, and boat ⚡ Great info ✅
@Froggy54310 ай бұрын
Grate insight on the Arvor 755 Paul, the upgrades look awesome! Do you still have the boat? how did you find it in summer was there enough ventilation in QLD sun? I am seriously considering the 755 as our next upgrade.
@deepcyclesystems9 ай бұрын
It's a fantastic boat, plenty of ventilation over summer with lots of hatches and windows and fans. I have a Sharrow Marine propeller coming for it shortly will be doing some more fuel consumption testing in the Whitsunday's later this year, very keen to see how the hull goes.
@johnnuske287811 ай бұрын
Thanks for the very inciteful video. Appreciate the effort in your designs and appraisals.
@deepcyclesystems9 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@amerkhafagiable11 ай бұрын
Great video as usual. What BMS (amperage) is this, which can handle 3000 w induction cooker ? Thanks
@deepcyclesystems9 ай бұрын
Thanking you, any of our batteries that run our 200A or larger BMS will support an induction cooker.
@amerkhafagiable11 ай бұрын
What type of LFP are these which accept 3C charging ?
@deepcyclesystems9 ай бұрын
Lishen 6C/6C.
@davedave5457 Жыл бұрын
Hi great work you guys and gals are doing at DCS, just one question in relation to what happens to the alternator if the BMS in the lithium's shut the batteries down if disconnecting the load from the alternator? would this not burn out the alternators diodes? what protections are in place for this occurring?
@deepcyclesystems11 ай бұрын
Great questions. The batteries can never be subject to a condition where the BMS would need to be shutting the batteries down, under such a scenario you would not only be risking potential damage to an alternator but you are risking damaging the batteries. Our Hybrid batteries have a massive power band and support 3000W inverters and winches so you don't have to ever worry about it.
@Angler233 Жыл бұрын
What real life conditions would warrant such a test? Vibrations fatiguing all the soldered joints?
@deepcyclesystems11 ай бұрын
Vibrations fatiguing joints and connections, BMS failure, cell grading related issues, ingress related effects mainly vapour, over temperature conditions, high pulse discharge stresses, high load conditions, electronics and cells getting stressed from constant daily 60 degree C temperature swings, debris puncturing the cell packs etc.. batteries installed inside engine bays of 4WD vehicles are the absolute worst possible environment imaginable for any battery pack, they cop an absolute punishment.
@quintinjocumsen6211 Жыл бұрын
Would be cool too have this connect through my Apple car play so I can check while I’m travelling 🤔
@Jay-hr9ci Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these videos!
@deepcyclesystems Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@damienfrizzell9394 Жыл бұрын
haha wtf!!
@damienfrizzell9394 Жыл бұрын
nice , another video! cant wait to get the dual battery setup installed in the back of my new drifta draws on my fj thanks for fixing them up for me!
@deepcyclesystems Жыл бұрын
Enjoy!
@sue-ellenskinner954 Жыл бұрын
Be good to see a comparison between the lithium and agm to see the drop
@ShoeysAdventures Жыл бұрын
I like that the BMS can tell you how hot the water is 😂
@deepcyclesystems Жыл бұрын
Yes that's right, we are just about the only BMS manufacturer that actually shows the BMS temps
@damienfrizzell9394 Жыл бұрын
love these vids mate, pop a lid on and it should boil 25 percent quicker
@wilbywandering5362 Жыл бұрын
Dig into those STAKES😅 good demonstration of that little 75Ah battery- BMS temperature higher on discharge than charging
@deepcyclesystems Жыл бұрын
recommended charging current is up to 50A on our 75Ah batteries, the BMS temp won't change at the 50A continuous charge rate.
@touringwithtyrone4933 Жыл бұрын
Ok that’s the video I wanted to see. I might be able to get away with your 100ah battery. I want to run a 3000w inverter which it should do. I want to run a 2400w air fryer about 3 mins 3-4 times a day as the highest peak load. Would the BMS on your 100ah handle that load?
@deepcyclesystems Жыл бұрын
2400W x 20% losses on your inverter & cables so you'll be drawing ~2900W from the battery pack. 2900W / 12V, 241A. No the 100Ah slim won't support that. You would need our 80Ah or 200Ah to support ~240A on a single battery.
@sue-ellenskinner954 Жыл бұрын
So with a dual battery set up in my car - should I be concerned with the SOC or the voltage? I can go from 100% soc back to 78% in a very short down time - running the car fridge
@deepcyclesystems Жыл бұрын
Our DBS have a fixed reserve via the battery protects set at 12.8V which is approx ~20%SOC depending on how hard your bouncing off that reserve voltage. It's a fully automatic protection system, so if you hit the reserve you just crank over your vehicle, you shouldn't ever be concerned about either.
@aselaweerasinghe8973 Жыл бұрын
nice to see with real-life examples
@paulcopeland4174 Жыл бұрын
Will the alternator stop charging when the battery is fully charged? Your video shows 90A charge current when fully charged.
@deepcyclesystems Жыл бұрын
Yes once the batteries have tailed off (fully charged and gone to standby) the alternator runs the vehicle. Or with our Hybrid batteries our solar regulator takes over and runs the vehicle and both batteries and the alternator go to standby.
@steveallen1340 Жыл бұрын
What about older “non smart” alternators?
@deepcyclesystems Жыл бұрын
The "smarts" are disabled on the alternators in this video.
@TheShawline Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul, I am considering purchasing a 755. The upgrade advice is welcome for customising later.
@davtreloar9236 Жыл бұрын
What brand solar panels would you recommend on yr roof to supplement the charging of batteries when the vehicle is NOT running?? Many thx, would like to see more vids.
@deepcyclesystems Жыл бұрын
www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/product/trina-415w-solar-panel/ Will make another video this week!
@miggity_mac Жыл бұрын
How far is the inverter from the battery bank and what guage cable did you use? I'm planning on putting the dual 90aH Lithium under bonnet but the inverter in my canopy
@deepcyclesystems Жыл бұрын
It's around 4 meters and I run 0 gauge. Yes you can do that no worries.
@ausguy4385 Жыл бұрын
Why not run a Argofet Battery Isolator to charge the rear slim... Any new Adelaide based reseller?
@deepcyclesystems Жыл бұрын
Yes can run a FET alternator splitter if either your runnig a non smart alternator OR at least 370W+ solar. Otherwise it won't work on the 2.8L Toyota engines.
@ausguy4385 Жыл бұрын
@@deepcyclesystems no I have a 12 200. So would that work then?
@deepcyclesystems Жыл бұрын
the capacity of the batteries doesn't matter, if you want to run a FET alternator splitter you need to consider the above guidelines.
@damienfrizzell9394 Жыл бұрын
why did i pay more for less usable power and bigger package with the hybrid 90ahs?
@deepcyclesystems Жыл бұрын
Two completely different systems. Single 200Ah slim line in cabin for a weekender, no redundancy and no solar and limited to 300A continuous power output. Vs 180Ah Hybrid DBS with twin BMSs that can do a combined 360A continuous power output. Plus integrated 80V/20A MPPT charger with a dedicated 3rd shunt and redundancy for remote touring.
@damienfrizzell9394 Жыл бұрын
skitz
@AB_productions2 жыл бұрын
Great Vid. Does the direct alternator charging charge the batteries to 100% or is the a loss of capacity due to the alternator charging?
@deepcyclesystems Жыл бұрын
www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/faq/#what-soc-do-modern-smart-alternators Most smart alternators typically bring the batteries back to around 80%SOC. That's why the system has an integrated 80V/20A MPPT charger so you can run a fixed panel to get them back to 100% if you actually needed that extra power.
@damienfrizzell93942 жыл бұрын
why is it showing 100 percent charge . I thought you can't get that straight from the alternator?
@deepcyclesystems Жыл бұрын
this is a stress test, we have dialed the voltage regs up to produce absolute maximum power.
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Do not buy from this company. They sue people for leaving factual and accurate reviews on their products.
OMG! Suing a reviewer... Why not offer some of your products to other reviewers and let them have a say? If they say your stuff is great then AllOffroad is not going to look good is it..? Less talk (suing), and do some walk.....
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NEVER BUY FROM DCS !!!Fraudulent company that sues people for giving honest reviews of their products (that contained testing and evidence in the video).
They silently changed the terms of warranty, but people found it on the way back machine... kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYWCr7iGnNuaaKg.htmlsi=4no55WTvHzXO1xM2
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Are you suing people for defamation for honest reviews? I would never purchase from a disgusting company like this. Sorry.
Be very careful buying from these guys, you will not find independent reviews of their products, they sues those that review their products if they actually review them and their fails, instead of just spewing their marketing materials
Crap company, crap products. Resorted to suing people over negative reviews of their crap products.
Still suppressing negative comments about you falsely suing someone for defamation? Your business reputation has been destroyed in seconds and your business is will now face the same ending as many who have cowardly sued people who may not be able to defend themselves, and that’s bankruptcy. This story is going around the electric car world, fanatics, groups, pages and more. More and more will share that you should avoid DCS at all costs because you can no longer trust they will fix anything under warranty and will sue you if you call them out. You can’t undo this. No apology will fix this. The shady behaviour with editing warrants and legal pages, not updating dates, editing other parts etc show that this is a company wide problem and that it’s your intention to scam and cheat your customers. You’re one of few companies many of us look forward to seeing go bankrupt and we will follow your name on the business registry for any future electric battery businesses you try setup in a different name or work for in a owner/ceo capacity and ensure that business is shared about as much as DCS is and so that business has the same bad reputation as DCS because it will not be trustworthy when the current owners and staff at DCS are at the helm of any business. Wherever the owners and those in charge of the outlets in America, EU etc go, we will follow your life and address and ensure those you’re associated with continue to know you scam people. Just be aware that all your dealers have been notified and are being contacted by hundreds of people about your scamming and lying on policies. Suing a customer one of them sold to. Presenting the evidence to them and we have saved their contact information and are going to update them on every bit of progress in court so they can see when you lose, that you were in the wrong and they can stop being a dealer for you. We have written scripts to automatically email all your dealers daily until they stop selling your product, from different addresses and different emails so there isn’t any way to filter them out without filtering genuine customers emails. Eventually it’ll be less risk and work for them to drop you as a dealer than to keep on dealing with the issues you bring them. You have now brought your company and the gross behaviour to the attention of millions and we intend to bring it to millions more. We are going to maximise SEO and push articles about DCS and this scandal up in search engines so that anyone searching for DCS or Deep Cycle Systems can immediately see the scandals and headlines showing you sued a customer who revealed you lied about warranties and wouldn’t honour. I’m sure that will help convert those looking into you into sales. People deserve to know. We may even pay for Google Ads to show up before your own website when searching for your business with headlines advising people that DCS scams and doesn’t honour their warranty policies and changes them on the fly, and will sue you if you argue against it. And don’t worry, we’ll ensure to set the main demographic to those Google knows are interested in electric cars, lithium batteries and especially those who are in Australia. We’ll soon release a list on Reddit and elsewhere of the email addresses of all your dealers so anyone can quickly drop an email to them informing them about your dirty practices and that if they want any future business they need to drop your company. We’ll then monitor those who suddenly are no longer dealers and give those companies a lot of praise and exposure, whilst doing the opposite for those who continue to sell a product by a company who will scam their customers and sue them. We will make it clear to those dealers that they’re no better if they work with and sell products by a company like that and we will ensure the public know about them as well. So they feel the pressure to drop you. We suggest you at minimum withdraw your lawsuit and apologise, and update your warranty and policies with clear information and an accurate date, and update all customers informing them that the 80% applies to them but that new customers and purchases from the date of the email, that their warranties that the 70% applies. Doing this will mean we stop bothering dealers and you. That way existing customers are all up to date, they have the 80% honoured and are informed of the situation and going forwards it’s up to customers to decide if they want to go with 70% as it will clearly be stated in the website.
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Is it compatible with outback inverters and chargers?
Yes indeed they are
Don't buy from them , they are an awful company, search up deep cycles system lawsuit and you will be surprised
Very very nice system. Thanks for the 0% recovery test. I have good knowledge of batteries and 12v stuff for out back traveling and that is a new one for me. That is also a great safety/recovery feature. I love the whole concept you have there. Are they two separate batteries and what happens if one fails? Interesting point about the battery temps up to 76 deg. As you said your batteries will do those types of temps but at a life span cost. This is a very good and informative video thank you. PS. I do run one of your 75ah batteries in my caravan and runs the inverter and coffee machine at 140amp draw very well
Thanks for the feedback. Confirming yes they are two separate batteries, if one has an issue the system still runs flawlessly on the other battery.
Good set up. Was it a simple thing to change the Toyota inverter and interior USBs over to the victron set up? Vic high country with batteries at 45 deg is ok. How will this go back in Qld or nth Qld or NT or the desert areas? I see these batteries are rated to 110 deg so I doubt they would be an issue. However, can they sustain the very high desert type temps when slow low range through sand dunes or similar. I guess the life expectancy will be reduced a reasonable amount. ### I just watched your French Line video where you had battery temps up to 76 deg which is just what I was asking about above. As you said your batteries will do those types of temps but at a life span cost. That was a very good and informative video thank you. Do you think that the battery temps would have been much less in a 300 Series?
Yes the access is pretty good in the LC300's. Pretty easy to do. When we first started doing this back in 2015, LFP as a cell chemistry wasn’t anywhere near as advanced as it is today - we can optimise the cycle life, tempereture stability and C rate triangle. But even back then LFP was a superior deep cycle cell chemistry and put AGM for example to shame under high temperature applications. More info here from 2017: www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/the-ultimate-dcs-12v-dual-battery/ Today LFP is the superior cell chemistry for every environment under the sun nothing comes close in 2024 that gap is twice as wide in comparision. So ambitent temperatures up to 80 degrees C is no longer a factor for us, as there is little effects on cell chemical ageing under 80 degrees C. Please note our Battery Management System will run up to 110 degrees C. The cells are not allowed to charge above 80 degrees C, that is tightly managed by the BMS and 2 independent battery cell temperatures, to ensure utmost safety and reliability, which our customers have grown accustomed to. The LC300 is unique its the coolest running engine bay we have ever come across on any 4WD in the world. Mainly attributed to the fact that it's a 'cold' running motor the coolant thermostat is set at 76 degrees C, and ontop of that the turbos have their own dedicated liquid cooling system and after cooling.
Why does my app say 59% an then. My batter is off an it says charge as soon as possible. But says. 59%. On the app can you please show us a video on how to reset the app?
www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/faq/#soc-out-how-to-reset
Lovely ep and set ups
Nice place, i was camping there on the river last week. How was Billy goat bluff track we heard it was bad so didn't do, to many in the convoy.
Yes it's a nice spot, we had done this trip back in Nov 2023, Billy Goat Bluff Track was fine back then, no idea what it's like now...
nice, looking for a dual lithium solution in my Prado 150
This is the generic kit here that fits the Prados: www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/product/ultimate-dcs-12v-180ah-dual-battery-system-lithium/
Great video
Thanks!
OK Lithium batteries are beyond my budget, but I want to thank Paul and Dan online for coming to my rescue in the Vic High Country one night last Nov. I was showing the region off to a couple of friends from Switzerland. It rained all the last Friday afternoon as we were heading back out towards Mt Bulla when I tried and failed to get up a short steep, wet and rutted section just before the end of the King Billy Track. I slid back down and ended up axle deep in mud. When it got dark and I finally realised I had no hope of getting out without help (we were winch-less), we walked the last 1km up to the junction with Brookes Rd and Bluff Track, hoping to get a signal to call some mates. We saw Paul and Dan camping just off the road, mid meal under their awning to escape the still-pouring rain. When we told them our troubles, they immediately packed up their dinner, transferred a pile of gear from one of their vehicles to the other to make rooms for us, and we all headed back down to our Cruiser. With their (clearly extensive) recovery know-how and a fantastically equipped Hilux wagon, they had us out of the mud and up the rise onto solid track in no time. Those guys saved us from a very uncomfortable night in the Cruiser and who-knows-what hassle getting someone to come up and pull us out next day. Feel free to ridicule me for being up there in a single vehicle, not having a winch, trusting the forecast for no rain, etc, but I'm only an occasional participant in this fantastic pastime😞. Whatever. What I want to say is these two guys were fantastic, and if their lithium batteries are only half as good as their characters, they'll be bloody good batteries. Thanks again Paul and Dan.
Thanks David, glad to see you made it back home safely. And nice to see an older 100 series still rolling around those mountains. It was very wet that next morning there were more vehicles stuck in the same location as you - so that should make you feel better 😉 Our LC300 High Country trip video was just released: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dIVppKhpl6yqpc4.html
Good Australian spirit to show your overseas visitors.
When I grow up I wanna own a DCS battery system in my house and car, and boat ⚡ Great info ✅
Grate insight on the Arvor 755 Paul, the upgrades look awesome! Do you still have the boat? how did you find it in summer was there enough ventilation in QLD sun? I am seriously considering the 755 as our next upgrade.
It's a fantastic boat, plenty of ventilation over summer with lots of hatches and windows and fans. I have a Sharrow Marine propeller coming for it shortly will be doing some more fuel consumption testing in the Whitsunday's later this year, very keen to see how the hull goes.
Thanks for the very inciteful video. Appreciate the effort in your designs and appraisals.
Our pleasure!
Great video as usual. What BMS (amperage) is this, which can handle 3000 w induction cooker ? Thanks
Thanking you, any of our batteries that run our 200A or larger BMS will support an induction cooker.
What type of LFP are these which accept 3C charging ?
Lishen 6C/6C.
Hi great work you guys and gals are doing at DCS, just one question in relation to what happens to the alternator if the BMS in the lithium's shut the batteries down if disconnecting the load from the alternator? would this not burn out the alternators diodes? what protections are in place for this occurring?
Great questions. The batteries can never be subject to a condition where the BMS would need to be shutting the batteries down, under such a scenario you would not only be risking potential damage to an alternator but you are risking damaging the batteries. Our Hybrid batteries have a massive power band and support 3000W inverters and winches so you don't have to ever worry about it.
What real life conditions would warrant such a test? Vibrations fatiguing all the soldered joints?
Vibrations fatiguing joints and connections, BMS failure, cell grading related issues, ingress related effects mainly vapour, over temperature conditions, high pulse discharge stresses, high load conditions, electronics and cells getting stressed from constant daily 60 degree C temperature swings, debris puncturing the cell packs etc.. batteries installed inside engine bays of 4WD vehicles are the absolute worst possible environment imaginable for any battery pack, they cop an absolute punishment.
Would be cool too have this connect through my Apple car play so I can check while I’m travelling 🤔
I really appreciate these videos!
Glad you like them!
haha wtf!!
nice , another video! cant wait to get the dual battery setup installed in the back of my new drifta draws on my fj thanks for fixing them up for me!
Enjoy!
Be good to see a comparison between the lithium and agm to see the drop
I like that the BMS can tell you how hot the water is 😂
Yes that's right, we are just about the only BMS manufacturer that actually shows the BMS temps
love these vids mate, pop a lid on and it should boil 25 percent quicker
Dig into those STAKES😅 good demonstration of that little 75Ah battery- BMS temperature higher on discharge than charging
recommended charging current is up to 50A on our 75Ah batteries, the BMS temp won't change at the 50A continuous charge rate.
Ok that’s the video I wanted to see. I might be able to get away with your 100ah battery. I want to run a 3000w inverter which it should do. I want to run a 2400w air fryer about 3 mins 3-4 times a day as the highest peak load. Would the BMS on your 100ah handle that load?
2400W x 20% losses on your inverter & cables so you'll be drawing ~2900W from the battery pack. 2900W / 12V, 241A. No the 100Ah slim won't support that. You would need our 80Ah or 200Ah to support ~240A on a single battery.
So with a dual battery set up in my car - should I be concerned with the SOC or the voltage? I can go from 100% soc back to 78% in a very short down time - running the car fridge
Our DBS have a fixed reserve via the battery protects set at 12.8V which is approx ~20%SOC depending on how hard your bouncing off that reserve voltage. It's a fully automatic protection system, so if you hit the reserve you just crank over your vehicle, you shouldn't ever be concerned about either.
nice to see with real-life examples
Will the alternator stop charging when the battery is fully charged? Your video shows 90A charge current when fully charged.
Yes once the batteries have tailed off (fully charged and gone to standby) the alternator runs the vehicle. Or with our Hybrid batteries our solar regulator takes over and runs the vehicle and both batteries and the alternator go to standby.
What about older “non smart” alternators?
The "smarts" are disabled on the alternators in this video.
Thanks Paul, I am considering purchasing a 755. The upgrade advice is welcome for customising later.
What brand solar panels would you recommend on yr roof to supplement the charging of batteries when the vehicle is NOT running?? Many thx, would like to see more vids.
www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/product/trina-415w-solar-panel/ Will make another video this week!
How far is the inverter from the battery bank and what guage cable did you use? I'm planning on putting the dual 90aH Lithium under bonnet but the inverter in my canopy
It's around 4 meters and I run 0 gauge. Yes you can do that no worries.
Why not run a Argofet Battery Isolator to charge the rear slim... Any new Adelaide based reseller?
Yes can run a FET alternator splitter if either your runnig a non smart alternator OR at least 370W+ solar. Otherwise it won't work on the 2.8L Toyota engines.
@@deepcyclesystems no I have a 12 200. So would that work then?
the capacity of the batteries doesn't matter, if you want to run a FET alternator splitter you need to consider the above guidelines.
why did i pay more for less usable power and bigger package with the hybrid 90ahs?
Two completely different systems. Single 200Ah slim line in cabin for a weekender, no redundancy and no solar and limited to 300A continuous power output. Vs 180Ah Hybrid DBS with twin BMSs that can do a combined 360A continuous power output. Plus integrated 80V/20A MPPT charger with a dedicated 3rd shunt and redundancy for remote touring.
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Great Vid. Does the direct alternator charging charge the batteries to 100% or is the a loss of capacity due to the alternator charging?
www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/faq/#what-soc-do-modern-smart-alternators Most smart alternators typically bring the batteries back to around 80%SOC. That's why the system has an integrated 80V/20A MPPT charger so you can run a fixed panel to get them back to 100% if you actually needed that extra power.
why is it showing 100 percent charge . I thought you can't get that straight from the alternator?
this is a stress test, we have dialed the voltage regs up to produce absolute maximum power.