Went to go do this on my 133 and ofc they updated the gear part one side is metal and the other is aluminum I think so you can even make them stay together
@Dabblefarm14 күн бұрын
Great sounds effects… made me smile 😊
@RayHernandez-qq5md23 күн бұрын
Best thing to do is a torch and it will come off instantly 👍
@magicone9327Ай бұрын
When getting pinched in a cut, don’t remove the head from the shaft! Remove the bar from the head, then slide the bar out from the cut leaving the chain, the if you have another chain, which you really should have, install the chain and cut your other chain free!
@magicone9327Ай бұрын
Seems that the push springs and possibly other sliding components within the shaft are the real issue!
@marcmartinovic5366Ай бұрын
very poor explanations
@alexrusko98082 ай бұрын
🙏
@goodboyringo97164 ай бұрын
My new HT131 is disconnecting so why doesn't it work without the weld ? Mine will work for awhile then disconnect . I took it apart couldn't find anything wrong . reassembled it and it worked now it's doing it again. It seems to disconnect when I extend the pole.
@that1treeguyllc8874 ай бұрын
It’s the spring inside the shaft. The super long spring puts tension and forces the drive shaft into the chainsaw tip. When the spring wears and breaks over time it dosent have enough pressure to keep the shaft pressing into the chainsaw tip so when your extending and retracting the shaft it’ll pop out. You can use superglue as a quick fix but if your usuing it everyday you will want to weld it. Can’t order a new spring , have to order the whole shaft assembly for like $350!!!! Bs. Which is why I made the video. Welding the tip is not the best thing but better than blowing $350 bucks. It’s a free fix
@goodboyringo97163 ай бұрын
@@that1treeguyllc887 ... This saw done that just after I bought it . I didn't take it back was my mistake. I have only used it a few time and it has done it twice. I'll be taking it apart looking for a bad spring . Thanks for video and info.
@del84414 ай бұрын
You don't even take the seal out on camera. Wth dude
@del84415 ай бұрын
Gow about you use a valve spring compressor and finish the job
@del84415 ай бұрын
He can't hold the camera in the right spot and didn't finish the job on video. Poorly done
@nedoscarsandfishingvideos55005 ай бұрын
Damn, I can’t believe he use the impact
@that1treeguyllc8875 ай бұрын
All the professional videos I saw they all used impacts just oil the shit out of it
@nedoscarsandfishingvideos55005 ай бұрын
@@that1treeguyllc887 stop embarrassing yourself this supposed to be delicate work one wrong move and you need to replace all entire cylinder head
@that1treeguyllc8875 ай бұрын
Stop being an asshole, I got another 70,000 miles on the engine and then I sold the truck in perfect working condition 280,000 total miles. Take it to Twitter if you want to be a hater.
@Thomas-gc9td6 ай бұрын
🤷 Promo'SM
@juanmagdaleno66796 ай бұрын
Hey man I know this is an old video but I got a kohler 27hp put new carb , new plugs , updated coils did the service adjusted governer at full throttle pull valve covers off found no abnormalities and I’m getting a slight back fire at the carb and overall the performance is lacking .
@that1treeguyllc8876 ай бұрын
Check muffler gap make sure it’s tight
@michelerizzo69696 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this video……you helped me fix mine…..
@Trompunitalphapropan8 ай бұрын
You have to jump power to the primer pump for 10 minutes or cycle the key 100 times
@that1treeguyllc8878 ай бұрын
Usuing the jumping method works, but only to keep the pump pumping. The truck will die again if the air can’t escape WHEN YOU CRANK THE TRUCK. The tool has to be attached so the air can escape when you crank and run the truck or it will die again. (Tried every combination of ways the previous time I ran out of diesel)
@Trompunitalphapropan8 ай бұрын
6.4 gas?
@that1treeguyllc8878 ай бұрын
No obviously diesel
@yolo_burrito8 ай бұрын
I’ve never had to prime a CRD. The 7.3 back in the day never required a prime.
@that1treeguyllc8878 ай бұрын
For some reason this is specifically only for the 6.4
@yolo_burrito8 ай бұрын
@@that1treeguyllc887 You're so lucky
@adrianharris60608 ай бұрын
Thanks for this vid. Used it. 👊👊
@that1treeguyllc8878 ай бұрын
Hey, make sure that you have the torque tool to put it back on, you can get it off without the tool but you have to torq it down to spec when you put it back on or it could loosen and mess up the timing. That was my $7000 lesson.
@that1treeguyllc8878 ай бұрын
The tool is like 250 bucks
@prawny120099 ай бұрын
Why they don't just key the pulleys is the stupid part. Fair enough having the cam sprockets floating means you don't need to have vernier pulleys but at least have one component in the sequence physically lockable as a reference ffs.
@that1treeguyllc8879 ай бұрын
You’re totally right if they would key it no one could screw it up when they put it back on. Fire the engineer
@prawny120099 ай бұрын
If you are taking the sump off anyway you can lock the flywheel using a normal flywheel/starter ring gear locking tool with three flat rear edge radiused to match the bell housing curve. Once the sump is off turn the crank until the front pulley locking pin aligns then when you for the flywheel locking tool it should be at tdc.
@cameronmahoney286 Жыл бұрын
What is the torque spec for the rocker arm bolt
@that1treeguyllc887 Жыл бұрын
Tight by hand. I’ve never had one come off.
@ciphercode2298 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate ya tryin,but i couldnt make heads or tails of what you were doin. My 441 was workin fine and i left it sitting for a couple months and now the throttle wont work. Its been a great saw,but i cant even figure out where the cable connects on this overly complicated carburetor.
@lucasvaughn9423 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Okay that ninja style really got it work. 😂😂
@that1treeguyllc887 Жыл бұрын
Make sure you have the torque tool when you put it back together
@lucasvaughn9423 Жыл бұрын
@@that1treeguyllc887 I have it all together, timing and oil pump. It’s running ang gone.
@kirilakmadjov8307 Жыл бұрын
thats the tactic i used on my bmw m50b25 engine but instead of the extension i used a hammer but you need the right size one
@Rohan-yc9ir Жыл бұрын
Ware can i het the valve stem seals ,i tried sears but they want me to purchase the valve s and spring as a set ,all i need is the seals
@that1treeguyllc887 Жыл бұрын
There is a specific kohler part for it. Should be a generic item number for all kohler 25
@cmarbormaster Жыл бұрын
Just curious,what size of pulley is on your jackshaft going towards the engine?
@sibusisotyuluba8365 Жыл бұрын
Man it works I just loosen it with 1 leg
@that1treeguyllc887 Жыл бұрын
Just make sure to use the torque multiplier when you put it back together
@that1treeguyllc887 Жыл бұрын
Got to have the torque multiplier or it can get out of timing
@earnesthill9477 Жыл бұрын
So I can tackle this myself?
@that1treeguyllc887 Жыл бұрын
Yes, buy the Amazon $25 camera to attach to your phone so you can look down into the cylinders and make sure they are clean from all metal shavings when your finished. I hooked up a shop vac to a funnel to vacuum out the cylinders and I used compressed air both to try and clean it out. Worked great for like 20,000 miles and then the transmission went out 😭
@zstrode.8953 Жыл бұрын
As long as you go wha whaaa whaaa whaa 😅
@johnmartin116 Жыл бұрын
I have tried all different bypass tricks..even with a switch like this on my 2022 AVH-241EX but as son as I start driving it starts muting on and off on radio,cd and bluetooth modes and and will not un mute until I stop truck…….UPDATE: I finally solve the issue…. Cut the pink wire on harness that said “PHONE MUTE”…. Problem Solve…..😎
@dejayajay Жыл бұрын
Yes, I found that to be a problem on mine too. I added a bit of length the the wire at the spark plug end, so that I could feed a bit more wire into the spark power unit. It helped solve the spark problem.
@nadingjeff Жыл бұрын
There are much better ways to replace a valve stem seal. U should not have made this video cause people who don't know any better will think what u did was the right way. U never use a magnet. U never use visegrips, and chances are replacing the valve stem seal will only work for a short period of time, maybe not at all.
@that1treeguyllc887 Жыл бұрын
The whole point was to make a “fix it in the field video without the proper tools” numb nuts
@nadingjeff Жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone would be that ignorant, well, u would be.
@thomasapol1770 Жыл бұрын
If you got the right tools then there is really no problem to this job, the crankshaft bolt is loose with an impact driver in seconds
@Newellx66 Жыл бұрын
What size impact? My 1000 foot pound impact ain't doing it lol
@thomasapol1770 Жыл бұрын
@@Newellx66 I did it with a Hikoki WR36DB
@robertfonovic3551 Жыл бұрын
Moral of the story.......buy a Toyota
@that1treeguyllc887 Жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahaha yes!!!
@that1treeguyllc887 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys I thought I would update the post. So because I did not use the torque multiplier tool on the reinstall it came out of timing after a time of driving. This works to disassemble the car and fix it WHILE YOUR WAITING FOR THE TORQUE MULTIPLIER IN THE MAIL!! I did fix the engine twice but eventually had Ford do it for $6000 to learn I did it correctly!!!! Just didn’t torque it down tight enough on the install. Don’t skimp on the torque multiplier tool. No one has it you have to order it
@viko28125 ай бұрын
Damn, Sorry to hear that. Btw, did you use torque wrench when you installed new bolt + new friction washer? I suspect without multiplier torque have to be 300(350?) N.m + 86 deg. or with torque multiplier 70 N.m. + x5 90 deg. Not sure... here but I heard somewhere it have to be 450 N.m. (if someone reads that... Verify before use!!! )
@geopars9396 Жыл бұрын
Works like a dream. Thanks for the heads up. Yes I just used your method
@that1treeguyllc887 Жыл бұрын
Make sure to use the torque multiplier tool when you crank it back down. I did it correctly but it slipped after some driving. Gotta get it tight past what your hands can do.
@that1treeguyllc887 Жыл бұрын
Just paid $6000 for someone to use the $250 tool to fix my mistake.
@clueless6559 Жыл бұрын
You must be strong with that sized breaker bar,
@that1treeguyllc887 Жыл бұрын
Yea it sucked. What I learned was to buy the $250 torque multiplier tool
@larryreno8293 Жыл бұрын
Not even the cam lock is compatible. You’ll also need a torque multiplier to get the crank bolt back to spec.
@that1treeguyllc887 Жыл бұрын
You’re right. I ultimately fix the car but because I didn’t get the torque to spec the cams were good but the crankshaft bolt slipped and it got out of timing eventually ending in me needing to get it re-timed again. Hopefully everybody on the Internet can learn from my money
@hswing11 Жыл бұрын
THIS SUCKS GO AWAY
@MrLocomechanic Жыл бұрын
The best and only kit to use on these engines and its a permanent fix! Not to mention easy fix.
@dawesapd Жыл бұрын
This eco boost timing belt issue is going to send a lot of car to the scrap yard. Stupid design. Rubber belt in oil. Here in the uk we have seen belts fail at 50000 miles with full service.
@gamesmaster1060 Жыл бұрын
no just go to ford, they replaced my engine for a new one for free
@prawny120099 ай бұрын
Seen them fail at 36k
@prawny120099 ай бұрын
If longevity and simplicity was the aim they would be gear driven. (But then I've seen brands use plastic gears so that they still fail)
@billmalec Жыл бұрын
Valve keepers 😉
@yakky0123 Жыл бұрын
They sell a fitting that will let you hook an air compressor to your spark plug hole, or you can make one from an old plug. 10 or 15 psi will keep the valves from falling in. Or you can do a similar trick with some thin rope, you just keep stuffing the rope into the cylinder via the spark plug hole until no more goes in. Obviously you want to be near TDC otherwise you need a lot of rope!
@grzzlytmr2 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem. These newer saws have so many doo dads and linkages in there. Thanks for the tip. I will try tomorrow and let you know!
@that1treeguyllc8872 жыл бұрын
Yea something to keep in mind is you will have to replace the linkage because the metal wears in the contact spot making it smaller over time and easier to pop back out. With a new linkage the diameter is normal and less likely to pop out. You could also job weld the plastic area to prevent it from popping out of the weak plastic clip area. ( my saws have years of commercial use and wear but stihl working )
@jeffwiggins33512 жыл бұрын
Sincere thanks for taking the time to share this fix with others:>)
@that1treeguyllc8872 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! It’s so frustrating when you can’t just find the answer to the problem so I try to make videos where the answer is quick and easy
@alexluf2 жыл бұрын
There is no stem seal on exhaust valves only on intake
@aiden.hobbs77 Жыл бұрын
Yea that’s why I’m looking in the comments to see if anybody else realizes he put a valve seal where there’s not supposed to be one.
@dougsanders60342 жыл бұрын
If you let that screwdriver slip off it could cause you major bodily harm.
@thecommenter68392 жыл бұрын
Dude I loved this video, that "wha wha" with your impact🤣. Yeah you did it how everyone else does it! Good job brother man💪
@jerrodbates84802 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Very helpful thank you
@Z-Ack2 жыл бұрын
Nevermind yours is loud as fuck to, same issue.. but if you look at other videos their shits a hell of a lot quieter..
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Went to go do this on my 133 and ofc they updated the gear part one side is metal and the other is aluminum I think so you can even make them stay together
Great sounds effects… made me smile 😊
Best thing to do is a torch and it will come off instantly 👍
When getting pinched in a cut, don’t remove the head from the shaft! Remove the bar from the head, then slide the bar out from the cut leaving the chain, the if you have another chain, which you really should have, install the chain and cut your other chain free!
Seems that the push springs and possibly other sliding components within the shaft are the real issue!
very poor explanations
🙏
My new HT131 is disconnecting so why doesn't it work without the weld ? Mine will work for awhile then disconnect . I took it apart couldn't find anything wrong . reassembled it and it worked now it's doing it again. It seems to disconnect when I extend the pole.
It’s the spring inside the shaft. The super long spring puts tension and forces the drive shaft into the chainsaw tip. When the spring wears and breaks over time it dosent have enough pressure to keep the shaft pressing into the chainsaw tip so when your extending and retracting the shaft it’ll pop out. You can use superglue as a quick fix but if your usuing it everyday you will want to weld it. Can’t order a new spring , have to order the whole shaft assembly for like $350!!!! Bs. Which is why I made the video. Welding the tip is not the best thing but better than blowing $350 bucks. It’s a free fix
@@that1treeguyllc887 ... This saw done that just after I bought it . I didn't take it back was my mistake. I have only used it a few time and it has done it twice. I'll be taking it apart looking for a bad spring . Thanks for video and info.
You don't even take the seal out on camera. Wth dude
Gow about you use a valve spring compressor and finish the job
He can't hold the camera in the right spot and didn't finish the job on video. Poorly done
Damn, I can’t believe he use the impact
All the professional videos I saw they all used impacts just oil the shit out of it
@@that1treeguyllc887 stop embarrassing yourself this supposed to be delicate work one wrong move and you need to replace all entire cylinder head
Stop being an asshole, I got another 70,000 miles on the engine and then I sold the truck in perfect working condition 280,000 total miles. Take it to Twitter if you want to be a hater.
🤷 Promo'SM
Hey man I know this is an old video but I got a kohler 27hp put new carb , new plugs , updated coils did the service adjusted governer at full throttle pull valve covers off found no abnormalities and I’m getting a slight back fire at the carb and overall the performance is lacking .
Check muffler gap make sure it’s tight
Thank you so much for sharing this video……you helped me fix mine…..
You have to jump power to the primer pump for 10 minutes or cycle the key 100 times
Usuing the jumping method works, but only to keep the pump pumping. The truck will die again if the air can’t escape WHEN YOU CRANK THE TRUCK. The tool has to be attached so the air can escape when you crank and run the truck or it will die again. (Tried every combination of ways the previous time I ran out of diesel)
6.4 gas?
No obviously diesel
I’ve never had to prime a CRD. The 7.3 back in the day never required a prime.
For some reason this is specifically only for the 6.4
@@that1treeguyllc887 You're so lucky
Thanks for this vid. Used it. 👊👊
Hey, make sure that you have the torque tool to put it back on, you can get it off without the tool but you have to torq it down to spec when you put it back on or it could loosen and mess up the timing. That was my $7000 lesson.
The tool is like 250 bucks
Why they don't just key the pulleys is the stupid part. Fair enough having the cam sprockets floating means you don't need to have vernier pulleys but at least have one component in the sequence physically lockable as a reference ffs.
You’re totally right if they would key it no one could screw it up when they put it back on. Fire the engineer
If you are taking the sump off anyway you can lock the flywheel using a normal flywheel/starter ring gear locking tool with three flat rear edge radiused to match the bell housing curve. Once the sump is off turn the crank until the front pulley locking pin aligns then when you for the flywheel locking tool it should be at tdc.
What is the torque spec for the rocker arm bolt
Tight by hand. I’ve never had one come off.
I appreciate ya tryin,but i couldnt make heads or tails of what you were doin. My 441 was workin fine and i left it sitting for a couple months and now the throttle wont work. Its been a great saw,but i cant even figure out where the cable connects on this overly complicated carburetor.
Thank you for the video. Okay that ninja style really got it work. 😂😂
Make sure you have the torque tool when you put it back together
@@that1treeguyllc887 I have it all together, timing and oil pump. It’s running ang gone.
thats the tactic i used on my bmw m50b25 engine but instead of the extension i used a hammer but you need the right size one
Ware can i het the valve stem seals ,i tried sears but they want me to purchase the valve s and spring as a set ,all i need is the seals
There is a specific kohler part for it. Should be a generic item number for all kohler 25
Just curious,what size of pulley is on your jackshaft going towards the engine?
Man it works I just loosen it with 1 leg
Just make sure to use the torque multiplier when you put it back together
Got to have the torque multiplier or it can get out of timing
So I can tackle this myself?
Yes, buy the Amazon $25 camera to attach to your phone so you can look down into the cylinders and make sure they are clean from all metal shavings when your finished. I hooked up a shop vac to a funnel to vacuum out the cylinders and I used compressed air both to try and clean it out. Worked great for like 20,000 miles and then the transmission went out 😭
As long as you go wha whaaa whaaa whaa 😅
I have tried all different bypass tricks..even with a switch like this on my 2022 AVH-241EX but as son as I start driving it starts muting on and off on radio,cd and bluetooth modes and and will not un mute until I stop truck…….UPDATE: I finally solve the issue…. Cut the pink wire on harness that said “PHONE MUTE”…. Problem Solve…..😎
Yes, I found that to be a problem on mine too. I added a bit of length the the wire at the spark plug end, so that I could feed a bit more wire into the spark power unit. It helped solve the spark problem.
There are much better ways to replace a valve stem seal. U should not have made this video cause people who don't know any better will think what u did was the right way. U never use a magnet. U never use visegrips, and chances are replacing the valve stem seal will only work for a short period of time, maybe not at all.
The whole point was to make a “fix it in the field video without the proper tools” numb nuts
I don't think anyone would be that ignorant, well, u would be.
If you got the right tools then there is really no problem to this job, the crankshaft bolt is loose with an impact driver in seconds
What size impact? My 1000 foot pound impact ain't doing it lol
@@Newellx66 I did it with a Hikoki WR36DB
Moral of the story.......buy a Toyota
Hahahahahahaha yes!!!
Hey guys I thought I would update the post. So because I did not use the torque multiplier tool on the reinstall it came out of timing after a time of driving. This works to disassemble the car and fix it WHILE YOUR WAITING FOR THE TORQUE MULTIPLIER IN THE MAIL!! I did fix the engine twice but eventually had Ford do it for $6000 to learn I did it correctly!!!! Just didn’t torque it down tight enough on the install. Don’t skimp on the torque multiplier tool. No one has it you have to order it
Damn, Sorry to hear that. Btw, did you use torque wrench when you installed new bolt + new friction washer? I suspect without multiplier torque have to be 300(350?) N.m + 86 deg. or with torque multiplier 70 N.m. + x5 90 deg. Not sure... here but I heard somewhere it have to be 450 N.m. (if someone reads that... Verify before use!!! )
Works like a dream. Thanks for the heads up. Yes I just used your method
Make sure to use the torque multiplier tool when you crank it back down. I did it correctly but it slipped after some driving. Gotta get it tight past what your hands can do.
Just paid $6000 for someone to use the $250 tool to fix my mistake.
You must be strong with that sized breaker bar,
Yea it sucked. What I learned was to buy the $250 torque multiplier tool
Not even the cam lock is compatible. You’ll also need a torque multiplier to get the crank bolt back to spec.
You’re right. I ultimately fix the car but because I didn’t get the torque to spec the cams were good but the crankshaft bolt slipped and it got out of timing eventually ending in me needing to get it re-timed again. Hopefully everybody on the Internet can learn from my money
THIS SUCKS GO AWAY
The best and only kit to use on these engines and its a permanent fix! Not to mention easy fix.
This eco boost timing belt issue is going to send a lot of car to the scrap yard. Stupid design. Rubber belt in oil. Here in the uk we have seen belts fail at 50000 miles with full service.
no just go to ford, they replaced my engine for a new one for free
Seen them fail at 36k
If longevity and simplicity was the aim they would be gear driven. (But then I've seen brands use plastic gears so that they still fail)
Valve keepers 😉
They sell a fitting that will let you hook an air compressor to your spark plug hole, or you can make one from an old plug. 10 or 15 psi will keep the valves from falling in. Or you can do a similar trick with some thin rope, you just keep stuffing the rope into the cylinder via the spark plug hole until no more goes in. Obviously you want to be near TDC otherwise you need a lot of rope!
I have the same problem. These newer saws have so many doo dads and linkages in there. Thanks for the tip. I will try tomorrow and let you know!
Yea something to keep in mind is you will have to replace the linkage because the metal wears in the contact spot making it smaller over time and easier to pop back out. With a new linkage the diameter is normal and less likely to pop out. You could also job weld the plastic area to prevent it from popping out of the weak plastic clip area. ( my saws have years of commercial use and wear but stihl working )
Sincere thanks for taking the time to share this fix with others:>)
Thanks man! It’s so frustrating when you can’t just find the answer to the problem so I try to make videos where the answer is quick and easy
There is no stem seal on exhaust valves only on intake
Yea that’s why I’m looking in the comments to see if anybody else realizes he put a valve seal where there’s not supposed to be one.
If you let that screwdriver slip off it could cause you major bodily harm.
Dude I loved this video, that "wha wha" with your impact🤣. Yeah you did it how everyone else does it! Good job brother man💪
Great vid. Very helpful thank you
Nevermind yours is loud as fuck to, same issue.. but if you look at other videos their shits a hell of a lot quieter..