Such a pity that this wonderful insight is attracting so little attention. The book and videos have transformed my hand frame for the better. I find this lesson inspiring because if such a wee lassie can execute so beautifully, I have no excuse as a burly guy!
@JustFiddler Жыл бұрын
Matur suksma
@hamwhacker Жыл бұрын
Fantastic student alongside a legendary teacher. She is generating such a bold & beautiful sound with ease using the secure left hand frame technique and comfortable elbow position. A joy to watch. And bravo for the virtuosic introduction at the end. 👏👏
@JustFiddler Жыл бұрын
indeed
@alanknights2779 Жыл бұрын
I find playing fifths strengthens the pinkie when practicing octaves. Octaves on A and E strings are possibly more unforgiving than fifths with intonation. Adam Beanstock.
@allthumbs37922 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful and reminiscent of the works of piano pedagog Dorothy Taubman who taught the proper use of the body/arm/hand/fingers should never go against the anatomy. She also talked about the right contact point on the finger, the fleshy pad not tip. I wish as a young violinist I’d had the ‘Friendly’ approach to playing.
@michaelwilliams87813 жыл бұрын
One of the best tutorials I’ve found. This method is helping to improve my playing a lot! When the left hand develops a better shape and flexibility everything else seems to fall in place more easily.
@tullochgorum63233 жыл бұрын
Folks - I'm a very humble self-taught adult starter - KZread is my teacher. But I'm also analytical and recognise a good idea when I find it. And this is the single most helpful left-hand technique I've found over the years. The exercise where Charlie Jones plays a virtuoso passage in 5ths at full tempo is an eye-opener - you can clearly use this hand-frame for any challenge, not just for slow practice. And looking at videos of the masters with a fresh eye, you can see how they are using this principle as the Prof claims. Just watch their quiet elbows as they fly up and down the fingerboard. Even after the first day almost everything was feeling more easeful. Intonation across strings improves. Accuracy of shifting improves. Control of vibrato improves. Velocity improves. Basically the entire left hand becomes more relaxed and efficient. I'm really looking forward to the discoveries that will follow as I explore the exercises in the book in more depth. And that's for a player with *very* modest talents. For the brilliant young musicians the Prof is teaching, the benefits could be radical. I heartily urge you to approach this with a beginner's mind and give it a fair trial - it's a game-changer...
@DivaDeb12343 жыл бұрын
Ida Haendel !!
@dsthorp3 жыл бұрын
wonderful!
@flovanhille5833 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Maestro
@aaron.piedra3 жыл бұрын
Really great lesson! Just got the book and this helps me understand the approach.
@2ears1mouth7863 жыл бұрын
Now that's a beautiful setting for a video! :D
@2ears1mouth7863 жыл бұрын
"... not only must you practise with rhythm, you must practise always with vibrato because there is no point to practise with a sound you can't use."
@violinpraxis3 жыл бұрын
I agree Did I say I agree? Because I do
@claraartnow66453 жыл бұрын
Brilliant technical method!! I was studying the Ciaconne, decided to apply the exercises shown here and with twenty minutes (and the first time doing a full 5ths scale) I could play much better the hard passages of fifths from the piece!
@HappyScalesforDuo4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this Master Class
@roman140324 жыл бұрын
somebody help me out here, im just starting when he says play in fifths, he means flaten your fingers out like youre going to hit two adjacent stings in the same spot, since they are tuned a fifth apart? and that flatening out makes you play with that flat pad of your finger rather than the tip whch puts everything in the right alinement for good vibrato? is that what we are talking about here?
@BearesPublishing4 жыл бұрын
Dear Roman14032, You will see the correct position from the pictures in the book 'The Violin in 5th's' which is available as an ebook from our website. You can also view the lesson Rodney Friend gives to Hiroaki on our channel where he explains the finger/hand position. There are no flat fingers. Good luck and Best Wishes Beares Publishing (on Behalf of Rodney Friend)
@roman140324 жыл бұрын
@@BearesPublishing thank you so much, obviously im not grasping whats going on here
@jdemeulenaer1234 жыл бұрын
Here is a real and true Master!
@jdemeulenaer1234 жыл бұрын
Genius idea! Great, you are a discoverer and help us so much! Thank you!!
@jdemeulenaer1234 жыл бұрын
Thank-you so much prof Friend. Your method is a very very good and important discovery for me. I'll practice it right away!!
@methuseling4 жыл бұрын
Good point ,listen to your body in addition to the violin.
@jlingviolin4 жыл бұрын
Rodney has excellent ideas for getting the left hand position right. I would recommend this to all the teachers who are still ruining young students by telling them to push their wrist out and playing on the tips of their first and second fingers. Stop teaching "techniques " that don't work!
@blackclash41334 жыл бұрын
A Love Music
@ivanmcdrago4 жыл бұрын
Amazing help with everything from approach to practice to shaping the hand. Exactly what I was hoping to find on this subject. Going to order the book soon.
@metatron19804 жыл бұрын
Very well explained theory and realistic! Thank you Royal College of Music
@mahaliahedwards48064 жыл бұрын
Academy not college :)
@jadenlam48953 жыл бұрын
Yup Royal College is a different school
@sharon17754 жыл бұрын
How wonderful!
@marquishathomas96814 жыл бұрын
Soooo anyone know the name of the piece played in the intro?
@ramses62314 жыл бұрын
sicilienne and rigaudon - kreisler
@MrInterestingthings4 жыл бұрын
This is revelatory . texture apart from color . Texture in the bow and color in the hand . My teacher always thought highly of Stern . I saw Milstein as a child - remembe r nothing except that he closed the program with Pagianiana. How I cannot remeber what solos he played and what piano and violin music is funny because I remembe r complete programs from others Pollini , DeLarocha , Pogorelich in LosAngeles .Gary Graffman in Prokofiev no.1 ut I cant rememebr if Milstein played I think he may Mozart eminor sonata - why I think this I don't know . A Full recital and i only remember Paginiiana and not even did he do an encore ! Sad .
@nocturnallsnake42284 жыл бұрын
25:30 thats it!!
@TheLondinium4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this, Rodney. I wish I had known about it some 35/40 years ago. It would have saved me years of pain and frustration to work on my left hand (in special intonation). I have read and heard a few people talking about intonation on the violin/viola in ways which were not only illogical, but completely irrelevant for the instrument. Having just watched your fantastic class a few days ago I immediately went to my violin to work on the 5ths. The results were almost immediate. And not just marginal results, considerable results! Now I will transfer this work to the viola. By the way, I will never ever forget the work we did together at the RCM in the mid 90s, when I played Britten Lachrymae Op. 48a with you and the RCM String Ensemble. Thank you Professor, and God bless you.
@FodorPupil4 жыл бұрын
So great to see this MC. There is real teaching going on here, instead of MC's featuring players playing already flawlessly.
@chrisharrison8094 жыл бұрын
this is deep
@ericsargon51724 жыл бұрын
I am 92 and I play the viola. I have difficulty with my left hand off and on. After watching Rodney's in 5ths master class my left hand has improved considerably. Thank you Rodney.
@GraniteQuarrier4 жыл бұрын
I hope to be a 92 year old viola player one day. Depends how well I play:)
@wordsoftomorrow8493 жыл бұрын
Respect
@trevorpinnocky4 жыл бұрын
He's such a good teacher. Those players are lucky...
@livingstonesuk85554 жыл бұрын
He and his sister were at school with my wife, the teachers recognized his genius at the age of 10/11, very serious boy, seldom seen without the violin case. His record speaks for itself..
@globalstringsalliance35294 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! We wanted to let you know that we have added this video to one of our playlists on our KZread channel. We also would love to invite you to join our online community: facebook.com/groups/globalstringsalliance
@sebthi78904 жыл бұрын
for me as a musician but non violinist it is always interesting to learn about the functions of other instruments. This teacher has really something to tell, no joking, concentrated information, like that should be a masterclass, not a comedy show with the student in the role of a jumping jack.
@arwo11434 жыл бұрын
I didn’t expect it, but there is a surprising amount of Ling Lings in this comment section BUT, what I really wanted to say,... HOOLLYYYY FUUUUCK this was helpful
@willjamiesonstudio62724 жыл бұрын
Nothing is at the link. How does one acquire the book? Amazon doesn't have it: "The Violin in 5ths Developing Intonation and Sound?"
@BearesPublishing4 жыл бұрын
Beares Publishing have now made Professor Rodney Friends's book "The Violin in 5ths" available as an ebook. www.erudition.direct/orders/transactions/new?id=1576&publisher_url=beares-publishing * Due to COVID-19 disruptions, we are unable to ship physical books until further notice. We apologize for the inconvenience.* Updates to follow Many Thanks
@janlotichius79494 жыл бұрын
Will definitely try this ... thank you Mr. Friend!!!
@william-michaelcostello77764 жыл бұрын
His left hand teaching is much like that of the late Kato Havas, loose giving wrist, soft touch vibrato but he really goes into detail.What is new about him is the teaching of the 5ths to form the hand and if the 5ths are in tune then you can‘t miss the octaves. I practiced this in some of the nasty parts of the Barber and low and behold it was suddenly all there. One of the best things he said was,“music is singing and dancing“ and rhythmic . Richt on. What I wonderful teacher
@amaliopratti20684 жыл бұрын
Do you still prepare the pad of your double stops the same? I've always used a tall finger and the tip has equal contact. What am I doing wrong? wider contact? flatter wrist?
@amezcuaist4 жыл бұрын
At 77 years of age this virus may kick me into touch at any time. But I trust Mr Friend to try an experiment for me. He has an enquiring mind , so I trust him . Just shift the foam pads to a new position under the jaw line where you can find a balance point to alter the violin tilt angle. The pads should be near the centre line and not spread across to restrict movement . Head up and slightly left for E changing towards head down for G .Keep the left elbow down and still .Then only use the bow arm in one plane (as much as possible ) Back to first lessons time. Open strings cleanly . Good luck . Sincerely .
@amezcuaist4 жыл бұрын
Tilting the violin is a foreign land these days . To change back to that is like changing another person`s religion. Nigh-on-impossible .
@gdae4444 жыл бұрын
I appreciate there are already three excellent presentations from Rodney Friend on this fascinating approach, but please, if you create another one, can we have a camera angle from over his shoulder so we can see exactly the angle his fingers make to the string and how much pad he's using? These are critical details which are really difficult to study in these recordings. Thankyou.
@jacisantos18494 жыл бұрын
I would really appreciate that, too.
@amezcuaist4 жыл бұрын
Hope you don`t mind the feedback . 2 schools of thought aimed at the same thing . I offer you any apology you feel is needed .
@amezcuaist4 жыл бұрын
33.50 Oistrakh would tilt the violin by dropping his chin to play on G and raise his head and turn it slightly left for E. All the while having the elbow in the same position . Not every single time 100 % but mostly . -----You understand ? ---(Paul Tortelier used to say that ).
@amezcuaist4 жыл бұрын
Slight addition . The Oistrakh Tchaikovsky 3rd mov shows about 50 head movements controlling violin tilt . Unmistakable evidence .
@amezcuaist4 жыл бұрын
30.21 The arm (elbow ) has to be in a certain position for the particular string ----Because the Shoulder Rests restrict any chance of tilting the violin . Still photos do have serious drawbacks that can mislead players . Be suspicious of photos and photographers .
@borredinho31843 жыл бұрын
Not really look at Lisa batiashivili arm and also the hand position while she is playing with a shoulder rest. This video really helped me to realized how to play with a natural position.
@CalebCarman4 жыл бұрын
I know Hiroki from high school. He's fantastic!
@JustFiddler4 жыл бұрын
yes he is
@amezcuaist4 жыл бұрын
29.21 Notice (about chinrest ) at the centre line of violin is between Rodney`s ear and jaw centre. His helper`s violin centre line is at the jaw centre. These centre mounted chinrests are all wrong . The triangle is out of position .
@amezcuaist4 жыл бұрын
47.03 Elbow position. The elbow Can (Capital letter to emphasise ) remain in one position playing E and G if the violin is tilted .See Oistrakh in Tchaikovsky 3rd movement .Rapid E to G notes alternation with several changes in violin tilt.Also a bonus as it saves a lot of bow movement as well . Saves almost a foot bow novement each time the violin is tilted .
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Such a pity that this wonderful insight is attracting so little attention. The book and videos have transformed my hand frame for the better. I find this lesson inspiring because if such a wee lassie can execute so beautifully, I have no excuse as a burly guy!
Matur suksma
Fantastic student alongside a legendary teacher. She is generating such a bold & beautiful sound with ease using the secure left hand frame technique and comfortable elbow position. A joy to watch. And bravo for the virtuosic introduction at the end. 👏👏
indeed
I find playing fifths strengthens the pinkie when practicing octaves. Octaves on A and E strings are possibly more unforgiving than fifths with intonation. Adam Beanstock.
This is wonderful and reminiscent of the works of piano pedagog Dorothy Taubman who taught the proper use of the body/arm/hand/fingers should never go against the anatomy. She also talked about the right contact point on the finger, the fleshy pad not tip. I wish as a young violinist I’d had the ‘Friendly’ approach to playing.
One of the best tutorials I’ve found. This method is helping to improve my playing a lot! When the left hand develops a better shape and flexibility everything else seems to fall in place more easily.
Folks - I'm a very humble self-taught adult starter - KZread is my teacher. But I'm also analytical and recognise a good idea when I find it. And this is the single most helpful left-hand technique I've found over the years. The exercise where Charlie Jones plays a virtuoso passage in 5ths at full tempo is an eye-opener - you can clearly use this hand-frame for any challenge, not just for slow practice. And looking at videos of the masters with a fresh eye, you can see how they are using this principle as the Prof claims. Just watch their quiet elbows as they fly up and down the fingerboard. Even after the first day almost everything was feeling more easeful. Intonation across strings improves. Accuracy of shifting improves. Control of vibrato improves. Velocity improves. Basically the entire left hand becomes more relaxed and efficient. I'm really looking forward to the discoveries that will follow as I explore the exercises in the book in more depth. And that's for a player with *very* modest talents. For the brilliant young musicians the Prof is teaching, the benefits could be radical. I heartily urge you to approach this with a beginner's mind and give it a fair trial - it's a game-changer...
Ida Haendel !!
wonderful!
Thank you so much, Maestro
Really great lesson! Just got the book and this helps me understand the approach.
Now that's a beautiful setting for a video! :D
"... not only must you practise with rhythm, you must practise always with vibrato because there is no point to practise with a sound you can't use."
I agree Did I say I agree? Because I do
Brilliant technical method!! I was studying the Ciaconne, decided to apply the exercises shown here and with twenty minutes (and the first time doing a full 5ths scale) I could play much better the hard passages of fifths from the piece!
Thank you for posting this Master Class
somebody help me out here, im just starting when he says play in fifths, he means flaten your fingers out like youre going to hit two adjacent stings in the same spot, since they are tuned a fifth apart? and that flatening out makes you play with that flat pad of your finger rather than the tip whch puts everything in the right alinement for good vibrato? is that what we are talking about here?
Dear Roman14032, You will see the correct position from the pictures in the book 'The Violin in 5th's' which is available as an ebook from our website. You can also view the lesson Rodney Friend gives to Hiroaki on our channel where he explains the finger/hand position. There are no flat fingers. Good luck and Best Wishes Beares Publishing (on Behalf of Rodney Friend)
@@BearesPublishing thank you so much, obviously im not grasping whats going on here
Here is a real and true Master!
Genius idea! Great, you are a discoverer and help us so much! Thank you!!
Thank-you so much prof Friend. Your method is a very very good and important discovery for me. I'll practice it right away!!
Good point ,listen to your body in addition to the violin.
Rodney has excellent ideas for getting the left hand position right. I would recommend this to all the teachers who are still ruining young students by telling them to push their wrist out and playing on the tips of their first and second fingers. Stop teaching "techniques " that don't work!
A Love Music
Amazing help with everything from approach to practice to shaping the hand. Exactly what I was hoping to find on this subject. Going to order the book soon.
Very well explained theory and realistic! Thank you Royal College of Music
Academy not college :)
Yup Royal College is a different school
How wonderful!
Soooo anyone know the name of the piece played in the intro?
sicilienne and rigaudon - kreisler
This is revelatory . texture apart from color . Texture in the bow and color in the hand . My teacher always thought highly of Stern . I saw Milstein as a child - remembe r nothing except that he closed the program with Pagianiana. How I cannot remeber what solos he played and what piano and violin music is funny because I remembe r complete programs from others Pollini , DeLarocha , Pogorelich in LosAngeles .Gary Graffman in Prokofiev no.1 ut I cant rememebr if Milstein played I think he may Mozart eminor sonata - why I think this I don't know . A Full recital and i only remember Paginiiana and not even did he do an encore ! Sad .
25:30 thats it!!
Thank you so much for this, Rodney. I wish I had known about it some 35/40 years ago. It would have saved me years of pain and frustration to work on my left hand (in special intonation). I have read and heard a few people talking about intonation on the violin/viola in ways which were not only illogical, but completely irrelevant for the instrument. Having just watched your fantastic class a few days ago I immediately went to my violin to work on the 5ths. The results were almost immediate. And not just marginal results, considerable results! Now I will transfer this work to the viola. By the way, I will never ever forget the work we did together at the RCM in the mid 90s, when I played Britten Lachrymae Op. 48a with you and the RCM String Ensemble. Thank you Professor, and God bless you.
So great to see this MC. There is real teaching going on here, instead of MC's featuring players playing already flawlessly.
this is deep
I am 92 and I play the viola. I have difficulty with my left hand off and on. After watching Rodney's in 5ths master class my left hand has improved considerably. Thank you Rodney.
I hope to be a 92 year old viola player one day. Depends how well I play:)
Respect
He's such a good teacher. Those players are lucky...
He and his sister were at school with my wife, the teachers recognized his genius at the age of 10/11, very serious boy, seldom seen without the violin case. His record speaks for itself..
Thank you for sharing! We wanted to let you know that we have added this video to one of our playlists on our KZread channel. We also would love to invite you to join our online community: facebook.com/groups/globalstringsalliance
for me as a musician but non violinist it is always interesting to learn about the functions of other instruments. This teacher has really something to tell, no joking, concentrated information, like that should be a masterclass, not a comedy show with the student in the role of a jumping jack.
I didn’t expect it, but there is a surprising amount of Ling Lings in this comment section BUT, what I really wanted to say,... HOOLLYYYY FUUUUCK this was helpful
Nothing is at the link. How does one acquire the book? Amazon doesn't have it: "The Violin in 5ths Developing Intonation and Sound?"
Beares Publishing have now made Professor Rodney Friends's book "The Violin in 5ths" available as an ebook. www.erudition.direct/orders/transactions/new?id=1576&publisher_url=beares-publishing * Due to COVID-19 disruptions, we are unable to ship physical books until further notice. We apologize for the inconvenience.* Updates to follow Many Thanks
Will definitely try this ... thank you Mr. Friend!!!
His left hand teaching is much like that of the late Kato Havas, loose giving wrist, soft touch vibrato but he really goes into detail.What is new about him is the teaching of the 5ths to form the hand and if the 5ths are in tune then you can‘t miss the octaves. I practiced this in some of the nasty parts of the Barber and low and behold it was suddenly all there. One of the best things he said was,“music is singing and dancing“ and rhythmic . Richt on. What I wonderful teacher
Do you still prepare the pad of your double stops the same? I've always used a tall finger and the tip has equal contact. What am I doing wrong? wider contact? flatter wrist?
At 77 years of age this virus may kick me into touch at any time. But I trust Mr Friend to try an experiment for me. He has an enquiring mind , so I trust him . Just shift the foam pads to a new position under the jaw line where you can find a balance point to alter the violin tilt angle. The pads should be near the centre line and not spread across to restrict movement . Head up and slightly left for E changing towards head down for G .Keep the left elbow down and still .Then only use the bow arm in one plane (as much as possible ) Back to first lessons time. Open strings cleanly . Good luck . Sincerely .
Tilting the violin is a foreign land these days . To change back to that is like changing another person`s religion. Nigh-on-impossible .
I appreciate there are already three excellent presentations from Rodney Friend on this fascinating approach, but please, if you create another one, can we have a camera angle from over his shoulder so we can see exactly the angle his fingers make to the string and how much pad he's using? These are critical details which are really difficult to study in these recordings. Thankyou.
I would really appreciate that, too.
Hope you don`t mind the feedback . 2 schools of thought aimed at the same thing . I offer you any apology you feel is needed .
33.50 Oistrakh would tilt the violin by dropping his chin to play on G and raise his head and turn it slightly left for E. All the while having the elbow in the same position . Not every single time 100 % but mostly . -----You understand ? ---(Paul Tortelier used to say that ).
Slight addition . The Oistrakh Tchaikovsky 3rd mov shows about 50 head movements controlling violin tilt . Unmistakable evidence .
30.21 The arm (elbow ) has to be in a certain position for the particular string ----Because the Shoulder Rests restrict any chance of tilting the violin . Still photos do have serious drawbacks that can mislead players . Be suspicious of photos and photographers .
Not really look at Lisa batiashivili arm and also the hand position while she is playing with a shoulder rest. This video really helped me to realized how to play with a natural position.
I know Hiroki from high school. He's fantastic!
yes he is
29.21 Notice (about chinrest ) at the centre line of violin is between Rodney`s ear and jaw centre. His helper`s violin centre line is at the jaw centre. These centre mounted chinrests are all wrong . The triangle is out of position .
47.03 Elbow position. The elbow Can (Capital letter to emphasise ) remain in one position playing E and G if the violin is tilted .See Oistrakh in Tchaikovsky 3rd movement .Rapid E to G notes alternation with several changes in violin tilt.Also a bonus as it saves a lot of bow movement as well . Saves almost a foot bow novement each time the violin is tilted .