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I spent years on heavy doses of multiple meds for 'bipolar' disorder. I have been med free for 14 years and will never trust another pyschologist or psychaiattist again. Drs too. Never ever will i hand over authority of my health to an 'expert' who will help me onto meds but not off them. Ever. I weened myself off gradually over 2 years. I am sane stable healthy now. If they gad their way id still be a zombie.
Definitely not anti psychiatry! I’m working on my masters at this very moment in forensic psych. The field has come so far and gets better with time and research. I hope that people understand that there are rotten eggs in all fields. But that doesn’t mean the ENTIRE field is bad or wrong. I think we’re going into an age of dismantling a lot of stigmas related to mental illnesses. FINALLY! I believe the battle is really with anti-science due to current social discourse. I agree with this video regarding the mindset that we should ALWAYS question the status quo, however. If we don’t then we do patients a great ethical disservice.
I'm neither for or against medication. I've struggled with mental health ever since i was born and growing up I was misdiagnosed and pushed wrong pills a lot which has given me a lot of PTSD towards mental health fields. Now in my twenties I'm currently on medications and it's given me mixed opinions. My current medications do give me hard side effects specifically high bloodpressure and insomnia and sleep issues and I get insanely ill if I miss my meds but it's also helped me feel functional and not feel numb and breakdown often I was told I can't do therapy without them. In my opinion medications are both a choice and an option that doesn't have to be permanent either. Choosing them is a risk and even then you have to figure out if the side effects are worth the benefits. I've stopped many meds cause their side effects are worse and that's okay. Medications shouldn't be feared as people take medications for all sorts of things and it's always a risk but it should also be an option to the individual whether or not they choose to take meds or try other mental health stratagies.
could you become a psychiatrist with a neuroscience degree?
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Idk why the heck we go to therapy. GO TO JESUS. We relive our childhood trauma forget about it and move on…
as a trans girl my view of medical institutions is mixed. i understand that science isn't as precise as we like to think and that's kinda ok because it has a place and it does good for people. however for me the medicalization of trans identities is problematic to say the least. infamous in the trans community is how no matter how we came to understand ourselves we all basically have to tell the same story. "i've always known, ever since i was a little kid i always i insisted i was a girl" that sort of thing. we have to speak to an "internal identity" that is understood to be self evident. for nonbinary people that doesn't really exist though. and even for people like me we have to tell that story to be diagnosed with gender dysphoria to get hrt even if we don't experience dysphoria. the whole process is silly and humiliating.
Psychiatry is relatively new. I’m 67. I remember when a psychiatrist was not allowed to give any type of “professional” testimony. They were looked upon as quacks. Like Phrenology. I’m surprised to see it took so long for it to be realized. I remember multiple testimonies of psychiatrists stating a violent or even murderous person was cured. Then freed. Then killed again. Some the same person multiple times. There was a Disney cation of Chicken little. In it the fox is portrayed as reading a book. A red book. Title was communism. In the exact same cartoon he is shown holding a red book titled psychiatry. I have them both. Psychiatry and psychology have done more harm than good. They steer agendas and silence opposition.
I'm currently getting off antidepressants. They gave them to me a few months back for anxiety, I decided to try them out because it could make my life better and stuff... 3 months in and no good effects, only those nasty side effects (it was sertraline, by the way). Initially the psychiatrist wanted to raise my dose instead, but I just couldn't be bothered. Especially since I need to wake up everyday at 7 to get them (and I'm a student, so I'd rather get my rest at least in the weekend), and I have a lot of sleep problems that not even melatonin seems to fix. What's worse is that I went to the psychiatrist because of my migraines, and she thought of fixing my anxiety first (I also found out I'm autistic, so that's cool huh). My experience is overshadowed by the fact that my country's medical system is very much shite, even if it's free: I had to wait 5 months for the first appointment, and they made me drive an hour and a half even if there are a lot of hospitals near me. So yeah, not great, but I'm not sure who's fault it is.
I was also prescribed Xanax and it just didn't work (it actually caused me a panic attack). Maybe I just don't respond favourably to meds.
I am antipsychiatry in the sense that my experience with therapists and psychiatrists over the years (i have debilitating anxiety) have made me give up on the hope that mental health professionals can help me. For other people I know rationally that scientifically its shown to help, but i, for myself, have given up on it.
Overall, this was a great video! I just wish the concern around the mistreatment of people (mostly women) with physical health problems was discussed more. Many people are told they are overly focused on minor physical issues, making things up, or experiencing symptoms of anxiety, just to later find out they have a heart problem, EDS, or another invisible disability. I spent 4 years being dismissed my doctors because of a somatic symptom disorder diagnosis before my Cardiologist and Neurologist identified my autonomic dysfunction (among other things). With proper treatment, I am finally able to live somewhat normally. And I’m LUCKY! Countless others had to spend decades fighting for treatment and some die without it.
Just recently: I've worked with a psych NP (which i am with right now), a psychiatrist for 6+ weeks in a very nice subacute hospital, and I've had full psychological testing. At first i was frustrated with the psych NP because she wanted to charge a Pill i was on from the psychiatrist. But it worked out in the end and i was not in a solid place at the time. I see people argue that there's too much medication in a lot of areas such as bipolar and schizo-anything disorders + antipsychotics. When i was only diagnosed with anxiety, BPD and depression i would go to therapy as needed and take an antidepressant as needed for months and then i would be tapered off. (I did a DBT course once as well) Then my bipolar disorder and PTSD kicked off. So i needed more medically than my primary doctor could provide. So i went to a psych NP (not enough MD psych) and that's when i was diagnosed with bipolar. Because of my age that isn't surprising. I shared that i felt like i was getting worse and that i was concerned I had schizophrenia. So i was set up for an appointment for psychological testing. This took about 10 months to get into. 7 months into that discussion (before the testing) i had my first real bipolar episode. Because of my history with going to therapy consistently and being on some medication helped me to be a little more stable to make decisions. I had looked up hospitals already and i found a VERY GOOD one and i called them to get myself checked in. I was lucky that they a bed was available. I was almost too far into the episode to go into a sub acute facility, if i got worse than better i would have to go to the hospital. Hospitals can be a nightmare. No beds, not enough staff, etc. Even subacute hospitals can be horrible. I happened to plan and go to a great one that was holistic and had everything i needed. If i had not planned it would have gotten worse and i would have ended up in much worse places. But if i didn't have the horrible hospital to go to I might have ended up in prison for doing something dumb. Not bad or hurting anyone but dumb. I do think the asylums were horrible but we need more hospitals like where i went. That would help people feel more confident in psychatryy. Let's talk about scripts. My dad had a friend that in the 90s was on some kind of medication that really made him just a zombie. He would try to eat soup and it would just fall out of the spoon. . But now it's not like that My official diagnosis's from my psychological evaluation matched almost perfectly with what the others Said. Except added one thing which was part of why I was there. Borderline Personality Disorder, Bipolar Disorder, I have PTSD from two incidents, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, OCD, and "symptoms of "Schizotypal disorder ". Symptoms because i was borderline on one trait and that didn't diagnose me. I had the choice to add or not to add certain medications if I thought it would help. in the morning We ended up with 100mg lamictil, this works through the day to help keep me from shopping during the day Effexor Topamax !(For headaches but is supposed to help with mood) Lyrica (For headaches but is supposed to help with mood) Night 200 mg lamictil Seroquil Topamax !(For headaches but is supposed to help with mood) Lyrica (For headaches but is supposed to help with mood) Ambien 12.5 mg for sleep Mood stabilizers, antianxiety/antidepressants, and an anti Psychotic is fair in my opinion for someone with my diagnosis and im getting help otherwise and am well. I do get told no one needs medication because it's an ac scam. I could not function without medical so if literally hurts me to hear this
My opinion of psychiatry ks very mixed if I'm honest. I as long as someone gets to be an out patient they could retain some humanity in some settings. While there is some evidsnce for most medication a lot of it come with horrible side effects and very little understanding as to why they work for a condition. Some normal variations in people are patholigized. The practice of psychiatry also involves a lot more subjectivity since it's hard to test for most conditions. Triggers are often seen as a minor thing but in reality they play a major role in causing a lot of acute conditions which can be diagnosed as a permanant thing.
my issue with mental health treatment is the lack of compassion, lack of self advocacy (ofc theyll tell u to take responsibility for your life but not when it comes to your own treatment lol), and focus on "well can you work and stay out of trouble?" as goals, which then is a societal and systematical problem. so its crazy complex, comes from the top down, and its a lack of humanity overall IMO. i have had more luck self medicating.
to me a good mental health professional is one who knows that the mental health system as it is itself contributes to bad mental health
Therapy is so extraordinarily tricky, I can see why so many think it's a scam. Just because it CAN work for some doesn't mean that it WILL work for everyone. Kind of reminds me of religion... 😆
Just commenting to let you know that all of the plugging of this video in your anti psychiatry video was effective 👍
Not sure what prompted you to make this video, but by urging people to avoid EMDR you are depriving them of a very effective therapy. It healed my severe PTSD after nothing else worked, including CBT, medications, psycho dynamic, yoga, you name it. The mechanism for how EMDR works is not clear, but the same could be said for most other therapies. The bottom line is that it works.
It's been a mixed bag. My current psychiatrist has been amazing and works as a team with me. Listens to me when it comes to my treatment plan and any issues I'm having with it. He also ask lots of clarifying questions when I struggle with the vocabulary to articulate what is the issues. But my first psychiatrist was awful. He bulldozed over me, would listen to any issues with my treatment plan or how it wasn't working nor a good fit for me. I hated the fact that within my second visit he wanted me to quit my job and go on disability. It was such a bad experience and coupled with the fact I wasn't better (after my pre-obama care hmo limit on visits ran out) I threw out his bipolar diagnosis stoped all my medications and went back to being untreated for another 4 years until I wound up in hospital was once again diagnosed as bipolar and was referred to my current psychiatrist when I was released who also diagnosed me as bipolar. But because of the damage done by the first psychiatrist it took way to long for me to allow myself to fully build trust. I stoped taking my meds multiple times because I'd start to cycle and get paranoid and then get sucked into the anti-psychitry rabbit hole. It took way too long too get med compliant. As a teen when I first started having bipolar episodes I repeatedly saw a psychologist who recommended my G.P. prescribed antidepressants which all would quickly send me manic and I'd be "cured" then in short order it send me careening multiple times a day between manic and wanting to end my life, so I'd stop them and sink back down and say they didn't work because I didn't have the language to explain why, and they never asked clarifying questions to find out what that meant. Eventually I'd cycle out of the depression and stop going rinse and repeat for like 3 years before I graduated HS turned 18 and stopped going all together nor opening up about my mental date to anyone.
How do Doctors know patients have improvements without the patients telling them?
i think that the idea that we all have to agree on everything and people make things personal instead nowadays. and i think that makes more yes-sayers/politic correctness on both sights, its not helpful in my opinion and can even make things worse
You're fantastic for doing this. I'm insane [HAHAHAHAHA] {crying} but the flower is blooming {tears on my cheeks} Emotions are too ignored. That's why pre-society has become so attractive.
Writing my experience with psychiatry at the point in the video suggested, though don't yet know how the video is going. Seeing some of the comments so far has been really heart breaking. My experience with my long running private psychiatrist has been good, though psychiatrists within public mental hospitals mixed. We found out I had bipolar disorder and that was missed so many times. I understand it's easy to dismiss wheh it hasn't fully ramped up, but I feel like a person calling police because they feel they're at risk to themselves, ending up in hospital, undergoing the psych evual in a complete 180 jovial mood, should be a red flag - not an opportunity to compliment that person on their outgoing nature and fashion sense. To end up in hospital a few days later should've tipped off to the correct diagnosis, but it wouldn't be caught until I was full blown manic psychotic years later. It's a delicate situation, as you don't want to overmedicate a person, plus if someone *seems* fine, then why have them take up a hospital space in a desperately crowded system? (I don't think anybody calling into psych ward is "fine" but order of priority I guess). I can see people having bad experiences with my psychiatrist just as easy, though. My evidence was a silver platter of continuous hospitalisations, it's hard to not take seriously, but it shouldn't have to be what takes one seriously. I certainly didn't have good experiences with all the medications I tried, but beyond sedating ones was never on for long enough to be too affected as it'd trigger episodes that made me think I was fine without it. The medications I am on now have saved my life. They are needed for me to function. I don't know how I'd exist if I didn't have them. That's my experience. *Edit: doesn't include hospital experience. The public system is very very scary, but I am very privileged so I never saw the worst of it for long or at all. I'm also lucky to have a private psychiatrist because the lithium I was prescribed from the hospilisation diagnosis did not work for me and my primarily mixed presentation. I could've been on that for longer than the year I was before alternatives even considered and been worse off for much much longer. Lithium is the gold standard for bipolar, and I imagine when professionals get stuck on that and don't consider other options that going poorly.
I'm like a diabetic who needs their insulin, if I don't take meds I will off myself. Been dealing with mental health stuff for over 25 years. Finally I feel balanced. Took me years of talk therapy to psychiatrists to find the right med combo. MDD, ADHD, GAD, and PTSD. I also did TMS a year and half ago and thankful I did. Luckily or unluckily my grandfather had lithium poisoning and shock treatment so I will NEVER touch lithium or ECT due to what damage it did to my grandfather. Lots of work to be in my mid 40s and not feel doom and gloom and want to unalive myself daily. First time I actually feel balanced this year, only took over 30 years. I also spent years with my head in the sand and not taking meds, I know what happens if I don't take my meds, and I like how I am doing medicated me now.
Can we talk about mental hospitals, and how hundreds of them across the United States still utilize powerful sedatives on children for disciplinary reasons. When I was hospitalized as a child, I was forced to witness it with the other children many times- they would make us watch as they chased down, pinned down a child, and injected them while they kicked and screamed with a sleeping med, and then they’d fall limp and be carried off. This would happen to them for the slightest offenses, such as a time a boy was lightly kicking the wall out of boredom which is still burned into my memory. This shit needs to be talked about, because the hospitals are actively trying to SILENCE IT
U people seem to think victims of oppression just need to "take this or that pill" or "clean your room" and thats gonna make our life better A Lot of us just have TERRIBLE LIFE SYNDROME and psychiatry calls us crazy when in reality we live in a brutal world Don't fix people, fix the world. Fix the deeper causes dang it!
I was anti-psychiatry my entire life. Now you claim it has become a "movement" and I'm like, "doc, gimme the pills."
Should be fully legal. Not really my thing personally but it's an interesting experience
I think what's also not talked about often enough is how technology increases the human race's likeliness to dissociate because we develop online selves and offline selves. This increased reliance on the internet is in extension probably increasing the prevalence of dissociative disorders. And then also people who dissociate as basically hypnotizing themself to believe xyz isn't real to cope with reality. So of course they're going to naturally believe they have DID if they dissociate and have it suggested. Then there is Also the fact that the medical community and the whole world just don't really comprehend the disorder, and the innate nature of it doesn't want one with it to comprehend it... so they're also naturally going to say what they themself have is not real. The very nature of this disorder is factually real though, and can be observed in animal behaviour. It makes sense. It's as functional as anxiety or adhd are claimed to be. It's just confusing because people without it struggle to comprehend it and those with it also struggle to comprehend it and half the "professionals" that "Want to help people" will just look at someone with symptoms and call them manipulative.
(I comment this as one who thought they have DID then thought they were faking it over the course of my entire life and now I'm in therapy and I think it's being suggested to me and I'm terrified but also it would mean Every self diagnosis I suspected in myself at some point in history but couldn't get help for have been confirmed by a professional so-)
on this note also just want to say, I think this is one of the best videos I've seen on this disorder from an outsider's perspective. thank you.
Haha writing this before the end note ops. Personally, I think DID is basically CPTSD but with more extreme dissociative tendencies. PTSD does Not capture the pain one feels and how paralyzed and confused they feel about life due to identity struggles In the Slightest. BPD kinda does though- but not everyone with DID is impulsive and has relational issues in the same way as one with BPD would have. My friends with BPD Freak Out when they're dearest people are leaving and obsess at the concept of abandonment. I only worry over abandonment when triggered and my freak out is completely inward. I'm also more aware of how depersonalized I feel to an extent- so I Know that I avoid as a coping mechanism and shouldn't. I will "hear voices" as a stress reaction. It's also different from PTSD because you have 0 sense of identity before the trauma, and that echoes into after it like any other CPTSD case. If CPTSD becomes a valid diagnosis, I will accept DID leaving. But as it stands, PTSD does NOT capture the pain. A veteran will still feel like himself after he is triggered and more easily accept what he did when triggered. Someone with DID will actively deny they dissociate and be unable to accept that the pain that part of them is screaming about in the back of their head is something in their overarching history of life with feelings that belong to them.
Another difference between DID and BPD is you do not rely on external factors for your sense of identity in DID. It is internal. You couldn't possibly rely on external factors as a child and have an environment that allows that to work. That's why you logically know that your sense of self is inconsistent. You can actually feel like a person- but only when you're safe. You don't rely on what others say to know who you are generally- unless you're currently triggered and can't remember enough or make sense of what pain you might have. They might be similar- I have thought I had BPD before but my friends would deny it- but they are functionally not the same and not with the same issues.
Totally agree the current DSM V criteria is lacking though. It doesn't explain the disorder well at all to anyone. It's like. No wonder everyone is confused if that is our half baked description of a serious trauma based disorder lmao.
I was put on antipsychotics and I still feel the lasting effects even after quitting! I was literally force injected in the psyche ward, and every psychiatrist I've had pushed pills.
hey goofy, that’s what a psychiatrist does lol they recommend you medication if they think you need it
@@Midwestemoisme what they think someone needs is not always what someone may need. that medication ended up having bad side effects. also i had no agency in the decision, it was literally forced on me BY FORCE.
@@moonshoes8931 for any person who isn’t admitted to a psych ward, you try a medication prescribed by the psych, if the side effects are much to drastic, the next visit you ask to try another medication. Sorry you got treated badly but lots of people see good results from psychiatric treatment. Unfortunately every med isn’t gonna work for everyone
I am so sorry you went through that. I too was hospitalized and forced to witness the injections you talk about, theyre entirely inhumane and I feel terrible for everyone who’s had to endure that violent experience. Don’t listen to the dude replying to you, theyre replying to a lot of people’s personal experiences acting dismissive and holier than thou.
@@certifiedcyclepath don’t try and convince people not to seek psychiatric help dummy
My feelings about psychiatry early in the video are very good. I have had bad experiences with psychiatric medications. I was prescribed an anti depressant when I didn't need it in high school, and that put me off of seeking a diagnosis and treatment for ADHD later on because I was scared of trying medicaions again. But eventually the ADHD symptoms were bad enough that I finally got my mom to take me to like 3 different doctors to finally get the right diagnosis, and I've been on a very effective medication ever since. Years later, I did actually need an SSRI for PMDD. The previous attempt at using SSRIs that didn't go well did make it a trick to convince my psychiatrist to let me try Prozac, but I'm on it now at a very low dose and it has probably saved my life. So overall, good stuff. Love it.
Tangent Incoming: It's shitty that even when people want to do the right thing and get a trained service animal, the scarcity of affordable programs severely limit or block their options for service animals entirely. I work for a service dog organization as an administrator, and even non-profits can't foot the whole cost of a service dog. On average, it can cost around $20,000 to breed for and train one dog, and health care coverage in my area doesn't offer to pay for that. So, non-profits often ask for much less, but can't cover the travel, board, and living expenses of their clients during training and placement. They have to specialize in certain areas, and adapt to clients on a case-by-case basis. Few make lots of money on training service dogs, and those who do, it's because they charge a lot for them (I've heard up to $80,000 for a for-profit service dog). It's mostly through grants and donations that non-profits are able to help some vulnerable people, and if anyone knows anything about non-profit work, money is always hard to come by. It's often hard to make a living on just non-profit work alone, so many groups also have branches to help fund their non-profit work. Now, imagine training for an emotional support animal. If it is similar to a service dog, the cost will be higher and it is considered "less" of a necessity, even though they fill similar needs. There isn't a huge organization for just emotional support animals nationally, because people don't take it seriously. Because they are not taken seriously, there is less of a sense of accountability. Those who are worried about liability will refuse to work with people who need emotional support animals (like my health insurance, which is one of the largest on the West Coast), even though they acknowledge their therapeutic benefits. This leads people to chose the one-time cheaper, or even risky costly, and less respectful methods to get their needs met. Now, there is everything else outside of medical field: just genuine pets and their owners. Many rentals, even those with prime features to safely house pets, won't accept pets. There is a blacklist of breeds because of ignorant opinion and bad actors. If they do, they charge a hefty deposit and sometimes even pet rent! Can't afford that? You are shit out of luck unless you want to move somewhere else, but the market is small and overflowing with needy, desperate people unhappy in this shitty, backwards system where a few set the rules that work for themselves while there is no regard for everyone and everything else. This is where you get people getting bitter at the broken system, either choosing to exploit it or report their neighbors who do it. Divide and then subjugate. One ant is small, but many have the ability to scale mountains.
I read a lot of the comments, they pretty much sum up the problem to me - people. And I'll tell you where it all ends, too; with an 'us' and 'them', where each side is actually a collection of ideologies and self righteousness. I think the problem is that psychiatry and psychology are not science, and until we accept this, the field will remain broken. It doesn't have to be 'science' to be legit and it certainly doesn't need to be in order to help. But, calling and treating it like science creates this huge carpet that easily covers the whole relationship of personal responsibilities to ourselves, our loved ones, and to society. Iow, we think mental illness is like an uncontagious virus, just see a doctor, he'll fix it, continue a normal life. But, order of the mind has nothing to do with science. Order of the mind is a very personal, subjective experiential development of all of life's processes, and they are unique in every individual, this is almost the definitionally opposite of science, which seeks to quantify and express the universality of the human condition. Calling it science, takes away the very essence of human nature, that's why it fails from the start, as an entity of human health. The good that is done comes from the same source as all the evil - people. The only patients helped by the field, are ones who are lucky enough to get a doctor with true empathy, which is pretty rare. It is only that personal connection and subjective probe, that results in healing. We have given science omnipotent power over our communal existence, precisely because the metaphysical is not quantifiable or universal, so we leave it out of community discussions, i.e. separation of church and state, and so your personal 'feelings' are not legit either, in public space, you make scientific sense or you are out. ..... I'm losing my focus here, but I think I've made enough of a point. There are far more evil people out there than we realize. There are those that simply operate within provability, and the system of laws and justice we have, to perpetrate their evil. And, there are those that don't understand their self, their affect, their contribution to a system of inherent evil. Back to where I started, it's all the evil of 'me' and 'you'. I'm better, my way is better, in the end it's, 'you must be crazy, if you think that'. The differene between psychiatry and psychology is HUGE most don't understand this, I never did, but I do now. Ironically, it's psychiatry causing the problem I've described, but is the more legit approach, IF you are being 'scientific'. There is bio-chemistry and physical balance of that map, which will result in expression of mental health issues, and scientifically can just be treated and continue on. But the psychological disorders are just people having problems doing that for themselves, for whatever reason, it's very much NOT scientific, they jsut need the right person, to give them the right pieces that they start thinking about, and it's not disorder anymore. You see 'Therapists' should be, well, Idk, but not doctors. And psychiatrists should be doctors, and they shouldn't talk about your problems or give therapy, they should only be giving drugs, because that's what they do, as a doctor, treat physically sick people. You don't ask a doctor casting your broken leg to counsel you on the mental anguish it's causing you. SO, a huge problem is incompetent therapists. People being graduated by colleges, who have no skill or ability to TALK to patients, and figure out their disenfranchisement, they can't even do that for themselves. Their patients will be unique, how do yu train for a unique experience? Bryan Kohberger was set to be a high ranking mental health pro, I mean, fuk, that says it all. Who's giving you therapy? It's like Oprah, and whatever other shows, this is therapy, cooking shows are therapy, KZread! all the creator-patron relationships, are identity labelling and THERAPY. The patrons are getting their world view partly from the creators. Anther group of incompetent therapists, but that's all psychology is, having a friend to talk to. Unfortunately good friends are hard to find even if you pay for them. People = Evil Peace
I mean... SSRIs might not be much better than active placebos, and carry a host of awful side effects. Antipsychotics are some of the most toxic "medicine" prescribed. There's an emphasis on treating symptoms. Yes, it's really a problem. Psychology, on the other hand, is a whole other thing.
I view it as a dangerous place. You can get a lot of help, but there are traps and bogeymen. Where the weak and vulnerable go, predators lie in wait.
I only ever went to therapy once. It was after a god awful breakup following a highly abusive relationship of the psychological abuse variety, and I was feeling highly suicidal and depressed. I figured id give it a shot because I had nothing else to lose and I poured my heart out to this psychiatrist for an hour and as soon as her phone went off for the hour being up she cut me off mid scentence about how I wanted to suck start a shotgun and walked out of the room and said it was over. I followed after her, I was 18 at the time, and i asked her what I should do and she legit stood there and said "we can discuss treatment options next visit. In the mean time man up, youre a big boy" needless to say I did NOT schedule a follow up visit and ever since I have had a hatered of shrinks because more often than not stories I hear are similar to mine. And thats why im anti-psychiatry.
WHAT AN ASSHOLE!! I am so fucking sorry dude she sounds like a piece of work. I don’t understand how people can literally go through years of schooling to be in this position where they are talking to people at their most vulnerable, meant to help them, and then turn around and be the least empathetic and uninvolved assholes. I remember dealing with someone similar when I was hospitalized, who compared a little girl’s DECEASED MOTHER to his fucking cat that died, saying “I got over it”, in front of a group of other children. People like this don’t deserve their jobs. They clearly arent in it to help anyone
dude just go see another psych lol yea the wait times are total bs, especially in america but don’t be anti psych u had a bad doc, time to find a new one
@@Midwestemoismeyour comment comes off as dismissive of this persons experiences. Im not anti psych but I can sympathize and see how an experience like this, at someone’s lowest and most vulnerable point, could turn them off completely. Psychiatry is a huge financial and time investment and while I don’t think OP should be against psychiatry as a whole, they have every right to not want to seek it again after what they dealt with
@@certifiedcyclepath oh that sucks
They absolutely MUST have the very most loving patient and tough people or it'll go to hell all over again at the end of the day: its an apartment complex in a way an apartment in form for well, not illness but assisted living scenarios Fatigue and low energy for example there are many uses for such a system and I am all for expanding those with no abuse torture weird experiments and surgeries ect
People want to pathologize everything as a way of excusing it. A person who is aggressive to others because of their upbringing can't be called an asshole because they had crappy parents. A screaming child isn't a spoiled brat, he's just disregulated, etc. Also, psychiatrists can take away your freedom indefinitely and destroy your life "for your own good". I would never take the risk of talking to one for that reason alone.
I'm in grad school for mental health counseling and this anti-psychiatry movement makes me very nervous as someone who will be entering the mental health field as a practicing counselor. I'm scared that we will be seeing a huge uptick in clients and families becoming more resistant to treatment than ever because of the mistrust and poor handling of pop-psychplogy in the mainstream. I'm also scared that I won't have the structural support from supervisors, other counselors, instructors, etc because everyone is tired and burnt out.
My experience with psychiatry was that it can be helpful but it didn't fix everything I struggle with. I see a lot of anti-psychiatry movement on the Daily Wire. When I was in high school I used to spend time in the trap house, and I even slept there one night. It taught me how peoples perception of time is learned.
also, YES to making a video about how schizophrenia was a term weaponized against the black community?
The correct term is the “Mindset effect”. You can change your internal body chemistry by what you think about. Why did anyone go see Star Wars? Fundamentally, to change the way they feel. No one gave them a pill so what happened? Their internal body chemistry changed based on what they thought about. Your general internal chemical state can either help you or harm you. This can be controlled by taking a pill or what you think about. Of course, both approaches have limits.
For all of you that are against this, thanks for being so inhumane. I have mental health issues. With out long term care facilities i am forced to battle my mental health roller coaster by myself. Emergency medical care is available, but normally lasts just 4 days. That is like putting a band aid on the problem. With in a week i am back to needing care again. I feel abandoned by society. I want to be better. Sometimes i am and sometimes i am in desperate need for care. Care that is not available because the society has an aversion and a stigma of mental hospitals. I am not homeless at the moment but i could see myself slipping in that direction. I worry that my mental health could take a drastic turn and instead of getting treated in mental health facility, end up locked up behind bars. If you think i will get help in jail or prison you are wrong. It will produce a cycle of being in and out of jail. Do you really think that jail is better that getting the humane treatment. Wake up America, We need this.
western psychology is RIDDLED with issues and corruption. we absolutely need to rebuild the system from the ground up because almost no aspect of it is working well.
Mental illness IS one of the factors. I had mental illness TEMPORARILY after the birth of my child and it was TERRIBLE. I would see demons in people’s eye that were NOT there. I was losing it. You better believe mental illness is one of them. Let me make it clear. Not ALL mass shootings are mental illness. Some people have pure hate.
Sertraline saved my life, and vastly improved its quality. I understand being hesitant about psych meds- overprescription *is* a thing, and there are side effects- but if you have a mental health problem that you cannot control on your own, it's not an issue of "just try harder". Talk to a psychologist, and, if possible, try talking to a psychiatrist too.
as an aspiring clinical psychologist, i’m so glad you covered this issue. so beyond fascinating to me.
I've been in psychiatric treatment for 14 years. It's been a mix of effective and ineffective. Meds have never been my thing. Was grossly disappointed by TMS (I did Brainsway). Therapy's always been mediocre but not unhelpful. Between the therapy and my home life I experienced traumatic invalidation throughout my teen years and developed BPD. I've done residential, inpatient, partial, and intensive outpatient hospitalization programs. They were okay. Some were implicitly frustrating because I recognized many flaws in the programs but the providing company just seemed to wave me off when I complained. Ended up going undiagnosed with OCD for a long time, so that's neat. That was a matter of professionals just not knowing shit about OCD, frankly, and not even bothering to screen for it. I think everybody with a mood or anxiety disorder should be screened for OCD and BPD because goddamn. I finally have therapy that seems really promising (comprehensive DBT). My meds aren't too shabby; I'm on an SNRI, a mood stabilizer, and an atypical antidepressant. Being disabled by these problems, I don't work or go to school, so at home I read a lot and watch a lot of videos on these kinds of things. And I journal, and do my homework when I'm able to. I haven't had any truly terrible experiences with mental health treatment. I've only been disappointed by it. I ended up on Mad in America one day and found many viewpoints I agreed with, but also, many I didn't. I recognized a lot of anti-psychiatry as inherently harmful right off the bat. So I never got very deep into it.
I dont like the drugs. It made me terrible. Talk therapy doesn't work for me personally either.
I got many diagnostic. Adhd , dissociation and bordeline personality. Took medications for 2-3 years , but no treatment had helped me. Now , 10 years later , i treated myself with foods , exercices and changing other life habits. Iam anti psychiatric and medecine. We clearly dont need those. Medecine is only good if we cut an arm or broke a leg , that it.
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A huge problem of forced hospitalization is it destroys the trust of the patient and the places they are taken too might be horrible and abusive places that they now cant leave. Ive known a few people that went in and felt betrayed by their therapist who was the only person they trusted in there life for the most part and were then assulted and r'ped in the mental health hospital because they talked about how their depression made them feel like life wasnt worth living. One committed soon after returning home, a couple became addicted to drugs, and only one is still a functional adult but has ptsd from that moment and none of them ever sought out or trusted shrinks again. Ive also met ones who had a "good" time in the mental institutions but still lost all trust for shrinks as it wasnt consentual and again it destroyed their trust. Like if your feeling suicidal and looking for treatment to make the feeling go away then where can you go that will maintain your freedom and safety? Rn its the internet or maybe a friend or relative who might give harmful advice and would be unable to give any medical treatment. Not to mention these diagnosis's and hospitalizations can harm future job or immigration prospects. Like if i got a diagnosis of autism i wouldnt be allowed to move to a number of countrys despite being a fully functioning and healthy adult. I know these problems are solely on one field but it leads to a distrust and aversion to the system as a whole. I know how helpful the field can be for someone but as a whole i believe it does more harm then good rn, but it doesn't have to be that way.
As someone who went through this multiple times as a child and endured and witnessed hell, it broke me and deprived me of a childhood and made me even worse. My parents were convinced by my sham psychiatrist that my testimony of what happened couldn’t be trusted because I was “mentally unstable”, and sending me back to the hospital where I would be re-traumatized became their threat to me every time I displayed neurodivergent symptoms. So for a huge chunk of my childhood, in my formative teen years, I lived feeling like I had to shut up, not cry, and deal with it or I’d be sent back. Or kill myself if I really couldn’t take it, which is something I attempted at 15 as a direct result. Mental hospitals, in their current state, are inhumane. They are a place where the wicked abuse the vulnerable under the guise of fixing them. They are abusers and enablers of abuse at home. They need to be reformed or abolished