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My name is Chris, and I've been playing Final Fantasy 14 since the launch of A Realm Reborn. Passion for the game, developers, and the community, as well as a passion for content creation have driven me to create a channel focused on the game I love. I've had other KZread experience in the past with varying success, but always felt a certain pull to specifically producing content for Final Fantasy.
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Lol, well this aged poorly...
You're allowed to dislike the MSQ. It doesn't make the expansion bad. Especially a week in. Thanks for the comment!
love your content. thank you for making these understandable for folks like me!
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
I would be pretty amazed if we got a WHIP weapon... Those aren't exactly easy to animate
I agree, that's why I think one-handed axes are far more likely
Well this wont age well.
Just finished the MSQ today. I think people dooming about it are the same people who would doom about anything the game does at this point. The story wasn't amazing, but it was fine. No worse than Stormblood. All of the content has been incredible so far, and I'm excited to see what they do with the rest of the content that's coming. These are easily the best dungeons and trials we've had on release in any expansion in the games history.
@@sharlayanforum I don't agree with that. I love XIV and have played it for years now. I think in this expansion there's been a lot of great things. I really enjoy the zones, the OST is excellent as always, I like the job changes and the graphical update is fantastic I think. Going through dungeons was incredible. That being said, I think this expansion also has a lot of divisive things going for it. I agree with much of people sentiment around the story and it feeling lackluster. I get, we're starting a new story but going back to ARR errand boy and it really being us as a side kick to Wuk didn't vibe with a lot of folks, myself included. That was strong criticism after ARR and now we've reverted back to that and I think there are better ways to tell a story that doesn't sideline you, the player. I think it's also fair to say that certain characters didn't click with everyone. I can't think of a more divisive character in XIV than Wuk. She gets more hate than Lyse ever did. It's a tough act to follow from EW and ShB but I do think SE can do better with the story moving forward and I don't think that's an unfair criticism. I think many want the game and story to be better and I think SE is capable of delivering based on what we've seen but it doesn't mean that they didn't miss MSQ-wise on this expansion so far.
I think that's an actual well thought out reason to not love the MSQ, and I agree with a lot of it. I think it dragged it's feet in places and made poor choices with some of the spotlights in certain areas, who they were placed on and for what actions, etc. However, the majority of people posting about it are not this thought out. They're whining about names being hard to say and cutscenes being long, as if we've forgotten we're all playing a JRPG. I think comparing it ARR is a pretty accurate and apt description, because in a sense, this is ARR-2. We're going into a new arc. We have to do some world building and character setup just like we did in ARR for the next 10 years. It's just the way these stories are built.
Same old formula. Been playing since 2.1 and I just cant anymore. Its kinda sad as I love my character and sitting at 7K hours
As the old adage goes: "If you're not having fun, don't play."
@@sharlayanforum exactly. I am finding my fun in Deep Rock Galactic now If you dont rock and stone,.you are not coming home
@@ericbelanger794 I'm glad you found a new place to call home!
This video creator is clearly an insider of the Square Enix ethics department, the MSQ was absolute dog s*&^
You got me man
should be a full job. NOT a limited job.....
Would be nice for sure! I'm excited to get it either way
Can confirm based on msq alone...it isn't
I'm enjoying it!
@@sharlayanforum fair enough but EW and ShB are better, I've finished the MSQ I don't want to spoil it but in terms of rankings I can't believe I'm saying this but ARR might be neck and neck. In terms of content though omg a very good expansion. The story for me though just wasn't hitting on any level.
@tjandhuri I'm just about finished with it. I think that the overarching story so far is probably on par with something like Stormblood, which while not on the level of Shadowbringers, is a perfectly serviceable story. We also have to address our biases of coming off of a 10 year saga into something new. This is, for all intents and purposes, another ARR. I think this absolutely kills ARR in terms of pacing and writing. There are sections that prattle on and feel longwinded; but that exists in every expansion. We're just more attuned to it with this being the beginning of a new story arc.
lol
Thanks for the comment!
Of all the story beats I remember experiencing throughout the game, the reveal that the problems of Abyssea were what ourr world would have experienced had we lost in Chains of Promathia was by far the most impactful to me. The fact that the ending after defeating Shinryu also was one of the only times in the entire game that we got to hear a rendition of the Final Fantasy Main Theme was also something particularly special. For all its faults, I still remember this expansion very fondly, if for no other reason than how it wrapped things up at the end. I'd been waiting for this one, thank you for the video!
3:16 gotta love that Joachim is breaking the fourth wall here to tell us that the “Duty” is only open for a real-life hour.
"Please save us! (You have one hour earth time)"
Also, very subtle just having the Endwalker logo imposed on the video during the second encounter with Esha amd then light up whenever the moon comes up.
@@DaneeBound That plot isn't similar like, at all.
Ahhhhh the video I was waiting for. Beautiful job!
Yay! Thank you!
thank you for covering this but i found you to rush thru this it would of been nice to know what mission that move the storyline along. I myself didnt have the money when aby came out so i missed out on a lot of world as it was building and was only able to enjoy this part a few years ago as the all in one pack came out thank you for coving this this part of the story
The difficulty there is that Abyssea mission were basically just "go here. Kill thing" and didn't have cutscenes associated with them. There were 9 quests in abyssea, three in each region, that were kill quests for a species of monsters that led to an NM of that monster type. Basically between each of the main story beats we had to clear a region. What I cover In there videos is the main story quests only, so this is all that was on offer, generally.
@@sharlayanforum ah thank you yeah kind of sucks that there is any storyline with the mission ><
@@zantravmotovin4606 Yeah, Unfortunately this era of XI was sort of the "filler" era. It got a lot better in the next expansion though, which I'll cover at some point!
I don't see the link to Korvana's channel anywhere
Oh no! I forgot to add it, it's in now! Thank you for the reminder!
Much appreciated! Ty for the XI recap videos 🙌🏿
Looking forward to the other expansion/story recaps! I stopped playing after abyssea😢
My pleasure! It'll probably be a bit before I get to Adoulin, but it'll come eventually!
Thank you again for another amazing video!
My pleasure!
The what if you fail against Promathia. Thank you for pronouncing Promathia name right! It drives me nuts when people pronounce it as Pro-MATH-euah
Wow, I wasn't expecting this! Thank you for this content, it's really incredible.
I'm a man of the people
messing with my kitty toofs is unforgivable. buut the game will be fun.
I think they fixed the mooncat fang situation.
These comments don’t pass the vibe check
In my own lane. Vacationmaxxing
It’s gonna be tough for it to be better than heavensward tbh
Story wise, I agree, content wise? I think it's going to blow HW out of the water
@@sharlayanforum yea, can’t wait for Friday. Glad warrior is still good and untouched
The story of the expansion seems very boring compared to what we had , I know its a new journey for many years but i loved zenos and the villains up to endwalker , cant see how it would be better here ,
Given that we haven't seen any of the story yet, I think it's probably hard to say how it will compare, but they are facing an uphill battle setting up for the new overarching story for sure!
@@sharlayanforum well we can hope that we get to see some cool plot, interresting villains and great character buildup to it,
@@MikkiZHskDK exactly! I see Dawntrail almost as a sort of ARR-2. It's the start of a whole new setup and a whole new arc that will carry us through the next 10 years of XIV. They have a lot of legwork to do to create something as epic as the Hydaelyn and Zodiark saga, but I have faith that they can do it again.
the copium...
Maybe! I'd personally rather be a copium addict than a doomer
You'd rather lie to yourself than move on to better things?
@@justinloosbrock6436 I'd rather enjoy the things I like regardless of what people on the internet say than pretend I'm not going to because that's what someone else thinks is right.
This will be a much needed break from the Final Shape grind. Don't get me wrong, the Final Shape is amazing, but that journey in Destiny is over now for me with the end of the saga. Feels surreal to see the ending as an adult nearing his mid 20s in January, compared to when I first started as a 15 year old teenager. That said, I'm in it for the long haul with FFXIV. I just hope we get more new armor sets this expansion (especially coats) since Endwalker was a massive letdown in the fashion department (I only liked the Garlean sets). So far, I'm liking what I've heard from the streams and I've seen that Ranged DPS will get a fur-trimmed coat as tome gear which I'm all for it. Praying for a cowboy gear set though
Detinee grind is definitely a grind
@@sharlayanforumThe Khvostov grind was rough. Took me an entire day just to get the legendary variant of it in Destiny 2. The gun is definitely worth it, especially the exotic version, super fun in PvE
gonna be the same. nothing to do
Sorry you feel that way! I feel that there's going to be a lot of content on offer here.
something to notw is with the graphical update, not ALL of the game is getting updated right off the rip. as far as I know. on launch its likely just going to me character models and new zones. maybe rocks and grass textures and stuff. so its going to feel disjointed at first
Oh so they going to give me my bbl back (N2B bottoms) they been needing my backside
Ff fanbase really is an echo chamber lol
Thanks for the comment!
It really is it makes the WOW community look positive in comparison, in the FF community it is so hellbent on wilful ignorance.
Not only is it too early to have a good judgment about the whole expansion content, we also have to see the 7.xx stuff as well. Literally just clickbait. Big reason why stormblood was meh on release but ended up being one of the better expansions because of post expansion stuff. Opposite happened with SHB.
Thanks for the comment!
Saving this to comment when I finish Dawntrail
Your points about 'a lot of content' and 'new story' are there in every single expansion lol. Every expansion has that list of content and a unique story. People are overhyping stuff for no reason. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited as I am for every new expansion, but come on. No need for this hyperbole.
I get that, but you're kind of missing an important piece. This is the beginning of a completely new story, every expansion for the past 10 years has been a part of the same overarching story, which concluded in Endwalker. This is a new story. Yes, all of these pieces of content have been offered at some time before. We've never has them all at once in an expansion. Thanks for checking it out
Dude... I felt exactly the same way. I wasnt planning to come back at first from the first reveal, thought it looked meh, boy was I wrong from all the stuff they've shown. I'm super excited about the graphics update... game looks stellar.
I definitely went from "whelmed" to "overwhelmed" with my excitement
I started playing after Endwalker was released. (it was about a month before 6.1 came out). I have never been so hyped for anything in my whole life. I cannot wait!
Welcome aboard!
Dawntrail looked everything like Endwalker 2.0 when they first announced it at Las Vegas, but a year later it's looking more like Stormblood 2.0. (Which is a good thing.) I think they pivoted direction for the expansion following the criticism people had for Endwalker's direction. I'm impressed they found a way to add a field operation when Dawntrail already looked pretty packed before they announced it. I think if Dawntrail has a satisfying MSQ, follows up on the promise to "shake up" encounters, and addresses some job issues (mainly healer stuff) I think it could be the best expansion yet.
Agreed!
Wait.... " plus beastmaster", i have not heard anything about that yet..
Yes, Beastmaster is coming as a limited job alongside Blue Mage during the expansion
Dont set yourself up for disappointment
I'd rather be optimistic and disappointed than pessimistic, personally! Thanks for checking out the video!
So don’t set myself up to become what you are, right? Great advice
I've actually noticed some doom and gloom post EW. Maybe it is the big influx of players who started with SHB or EW. They think that the game could never be better than it was in SHB or EW. I totally disagree and my personal favorite time in the game was Stormblood. I think what they have shown off is incredible and shows they still have a massive love and duty to make the game. When EW was launching I was very nervous because the game I had loved and played so much since 2014 was having a finale. What I realized is that the devs would not disappoint the people who truly love this game. I also realized that, even in ARR / HW / Stormblood, where I didn't pay close attention to the story, I still loved the game so much. There are so many positive aspects coming to dawntrail and their ideology with expanding almost every part of the game systems is a perfect idea. Reworking of jobs post 7.2? UI updates? Dye system? Ultimates? Exploratory Missions? ALSO criterion? A free fantasia? All the unexplored stories and areas of the world? I'm not saying this is a guarantee but I actually TRUST the devs of this game. Dawntrail has incredible potential to grip all the people who have doubted them post endwalker.
HUUUUUGE agree. I've played since ARR and I've felt the ebb and flow of the overall attitude of the community as things have risen and fallen. In terms of whats on offer, Dawntrail is positioned to be, far and away, the most jam packed expansion we've ever had. Even if the the story they start with this expansion is only as good as what most people consider to be the "worst" story, Stormblood, it will still be a fine story and the amount of QoL, content, and new shine on everything with all of the updates we're getting? As long as they don't absolutely fumble this thing in the 11th hour, it's a guaranteed slam dunk, 15/10, goated, undeniable.
I do agree that the game can still get better, but I personally I think that ShB and EW should be where the stakes peak. I think they should avoid planet destroying threats going forward
It will be the exact same as every expansion with the exact same content in the exact same order just with a different coat of paint and new story. Dunno why everyone is acting like this isn't just literally more of the same
I suppose I'm more optimistic!
@@sharlayanforum I'm excited to play the game. I'm just not sure why people are expecting this eexpansion to be so much different. It's going to have the same content we have gotten in the past and everyone knows that
I think saying that this expansion is exactly the same as all the others is like saying that all pizzas are the same, regardless of whats on them or how they're built. We're getting the same building blocks, but they're all being delivered for the first time in unison. This will be the first expansion ever to have all of these individual pieces of content on offer, in a new form, at the same time.
On gear, remember that the quest that unlocks the new jobs will give a coffer giving you free ilvl 525 gear. So unless 5 item levels means a lot to you, you only need Cryptlurker accessories (and you don't need the earrings if you have the Azeyma ones). As for dungeon gear- remember that every clear of a levelling dungeon gives you a gear piece you can equip on the job you ran it with. This means if you already have the complete set of NIN gear for (say) Vanaspati, then you're first clear of that dungeon as VIP will give you the VIP weapon (as it's the only part of the set you don't already have). So you don't really need to be crafting these and they'll just fall into your lap as you level.
All facts!
I think Dawntrail is way overhyped. I’m hoping to be proven wrong
A little cautious optimism is never a bad thing
Yeah I don’t want to get upset.
2 channel dye it's not overhyped
@@davibergamin5943and you can combine hats with glasses now
@davibergamin5943 it's not overhyped, it's sad. Numerous MMOs over a decade ago, even F2P ones have 3-4 dye channels. FF14 is still catching up on many common features and other QoL. Took until 6.x to add duration timers to buffs/debuffs in party list....
So excited for the story.
Same! I'm very curious to see where they go with it!
I believe the story is going to feel not as good, and probably even more like ESO or WoW, but you're really not gonna care because the content is going to be there. You're gonna have lots of fun, and the story will begin to slowly feel like an afterthought; that's okay, because it's an MMO.
It'll be hard to top the setup and delivery that was the previous 10 years of story, but I'm willing to give them a shot! thanks for chekcing out the video!
Also it’s a TOURNAMENT ARC 🤩🤩🤩
My static and I are unbelievably hype for the ff14 tournament season
I think some people are already tired of the idea that the story is going to be about the ancients, and that Solution 9 might be the "City of Gold" where the ancients have lain dormant. But I disagree. I think the story we've had thus far has taken us to the "end" of the calamities (lol not likely) so giving the world an origin story and exploring what came before the history we know of the world (not the shards) is not only logical but interesting as hell to me.
Agreed! I want to see more about Allag and the previous calamities, and more about what happened between the ancient world and now.
@@sharlayanforum People keep telling me they're done with the Allagans but I dunno, man. Right now they're just a MacGuffin to explain *some* technology in the world. There's a lot that's unexplored there. I refuse to believe they would be that advanced and the only characters we got from it was Unei and Doga.
exactly!
I can't help but disagree. I believe it's basically "More of the same". That's not bad when I enjoy the game but it's in no way ground breaking or fundamentally changing. It's nearly the exact same map as previous expansions. The gameplay isn't changing at all, slight refinement for the better but that's also nearly identical. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Adding a new coat of fresh paint. Put differently: the iPhone barely changes iteration to iteration but it does nearly continuously get lighter by a few grams. This is not really any different than that. If you're Square or an investor: you don't want to kill the golden goose. 8.0 or 9.0 will be where any real change occurs. They rarely mess with the battle system except for two things: 1) Fresh coat of paint, same thing but refined slightly, quality of life. 2) Lower the bar to entry. That's the thing that's going to change. People only want to do a rotation for so long.
👍 fair enough!
100% agreed
yeah, for me is the same, i think this game need first a total overhaul of the open area. they feel good to see but nothing really exiting to do in it ( hidden stuff, some puzzle or something more fun ). Is a shame they have built a big world but is kinda of feel empty... Most of the game is instanced and can be ok but i would really loved if they do something with the open area (fate is the same stuff over and over...) . The concept of the game is every time the same : new dungeon to rush..., trial, raid and some experimental stuff who goes to dead shortly...( kinda if they finally kill the residential area and give a instanced house to all the player with the island instead of a grind mindless boring area...) and go on until the end of the cicle. Raid i would really loved if they don't continue to put other game idea on the raid but instead use the lore of FFXIV and do something original. The last one was really good for me at least was about the Twelve god :D Same was for the raid of ARR and Heavensward. Not really a fun of the lvl 70, 80, raid to be honest. For this time i think i pass as i pass Stormblood. Not a fan of the theme of this patch at all :P But i hope other player can enjoy it a lot :)
That's how I feel. It's all going to be the same stuff, just different areas and story. Finish story, farm tombstones, farm raids. Wait for 7.1 for the rest of content. It feels like for the last few expansions they just use the same checklist/roadmap without really introducing anything new that's worthwhile
@@Eric-sp7wz because that's exactly what will happen. I've been playing on and off since Heavens ward and the formula has been the same ever since then. I just got burned out after playing for over 4k hours. Sucks I'm in too deep now to stop, so I'll be seeing yall in the expansion in a few days
I had the same first impression of Dawntrail - having not enjoyed EW very much (Abyssos was the highlight for me) I was thinking I might have to sit this one out or just be an MSQ tourist. I remember thinking “is this really the best they can do?” with the viper reveal. But then I saw how it and Pictomancer actually play and was super pleasantly surprised. I have a lot of hope for Shade’s Triangle and the cosmic exploration stuff. I don’t like or agree with some of the job changes but otherwise feeling okay about it. hopefully our positivity pans out lol
I have faith 👏
I’m about to start EW. Why did you not enjoy EW? Was the story bad, or was it just because of the endgame content? If the story is bad, I might just skip it and watch a recap or something and jump straight into Dawntrail
The story of Endwalker was fantastic. The endgame content wasn't super popular, and the patch stories were not very well received.
@@smellybearc7411 I think most people really enjoyed EW’s story. I don’t want to color your potential enjoyment of it by explaining my personal gripes with it. The patch quests were not anyone’s favorite afaik, but you might feel differently. I mostly disliked EW because content-wise, it felt very paint by numbers. We got a handful of standout savage fights and one ultimate that everyone loved (and another that lots of people hate). Criterion dungeons were actually amazing design-wise but ended up being pretty DOA. As a deep dungeon solo fan I was happy with Orthos but if you’re not soloing it good luck finding full groups to clear it now to get the mount (4 clears). Not much in EW had a lot of staying power. Some of the stuff I really like (exploration zones with alternative leveling and lots of grinding to do) was completely absent. I spent more time in Eureka this expansion working on a handful of SB relics than I did getting all the Manderville ones
Job changes in 7.2 was a translation error. They're not targeting any major job changes until 8.0.
I'm sure that we'll see changes throughout 7.x, but I'm excited for the major changes in 8.0 for sure!
@@sharlayanforum Yeah, really looking forward to much-needed updates in two years. /s
@ExceedProduction the way i see it, I can choose the either be angry about something I can't change or I can just play the game I enjoy playing knowing that things will change. The game isn't perfect, but nothing ever really is. I just choose to not play it out of spite, logging in every day and saying "man I hate this game and I hate the way this job is designed." If I ever felt like that I would just play a different game, lol
great video, I'm very excited for this expansion also. Especially after the launch trailer
Can't wait!
I keep forgetting I need to empty my inventory before launch, I only got 10 open spots currently and both retainers are full of glamour gear.
Time for some spring cleaning before summer vacation!
I think it not having the stakes is a good thing. I can finally relax, Isaias, my character, can relax. We can just chill. We don’t have to run around.
I think the stakes are definitely lower than "The world is about to end plz help," but we all know some shenanigans are going to go down in Tural