I trust The Digital Bits and I trust my eyes. It's a rescan
@chronodr2 сағат бұрын
I don't know what are you all about. The 4K version looks much sharper and crisper than the blu ray, it's a night and day difference
@thegraceandpaulpottscast94623 сағат бұрын
This is really disappointing and frustrating. I got the 4K Extended films because my family watches the every year - it's become a New Year's tradition. When we watched the 4K versions, I loved the detail, but I noticed that some things were very off with the color. Especially, everyone from Rohan with blonde hair at Helm's Deep had a greenish tint to their hair. I thought ti might be due to my screen, which is a 43" 4K monitor, but tweaking the monitor settings, I couldn't really fix the greenish-looking hair. Some other scenes didn't look right but I didn't really study them hard enough to figure out what was wrong, I just knew that things didn't look right. From this documentary I learned that Jackson may have screwed up the colors deliberately to match the grading of scenes in The Hobbit, and I'm horrified! We don't use the H-word in this house - those movies are atrocious. This is like restoring Star Trek, and altering everything to match the animated series... or George Lucas altering the original Star Wars. Thank G-d _that_ would never happen 😠 We'll probably watch the extended edition DVDs again next New Year's and leave it at that. If they ever do release a decent 4K edition, am I gonna have to buy the White Album yet again?
@PCGGC4 сағат бұрын
35mm is actually 5K resolution, better than 4K bluray. It just has film grain and imperfections still. As long as 35mm exists it can be remastered. But these AI assisted remasters lately are terrible
@ianimewhatif8624 сағат бұрын
This 3rd Part is weird, it’s a different type of Analysis, the first two parts were purely about the Show, now you’re trying everything you can to make the show look as bad as possible, not because the show is actually bad, but because you don’t like some of the usual House jokes, which you sympathized with in the first two parts. This Analysis turned from good to extremely bad the moment you started voicing things that are both stupid and untrue. Hopefully, you go back to an actual Analysis of the Show in the rest of this. (Also, the moment you started talking about any type of trans stuff was the moment you completely went off course and just started saying the most random and coincidental stuff, while also including some truth so that you can make your personal, biased Opinions of 2021/2022 sound like real Facts and not just delusional stuff)
@s.a42545 сағат бұрын
you talked so much but still missed so many important aspacts....
@CarpatronSkittle7 сағат бұрын
These films deserve a full rescan of all the 35mm footage. To throw it into Topaz and just upscale the footage is beyond lazy, even with taking out the CGI and upscaling it separately. Only way to get a truly Native 4k print is to scan the negatives. Truly embarrassing stuff.
@TheLikeableDude7 сағат бұрын
a video was not needed to answer this question, it's simple.. yes it can get remade, should it get remade? thats another question... for the most part, no, it should not get remade, but there is one way it could get remade, and that is properly, instead of 3 movies, it should be six, peter jackson messed up alot of important character development and even veto'd whole parts of the story, messed around witht he pacing and ordering and if you ever read the books, you will realise, peter jacksons trilogy, is, terrible!
@Shadow-gm9ct5 сағат бұрын
That’s not what a remaster is.
@aham6399 сағат бұрын
I subscribed because of the commitment to house then i immediately unsubscribed watching this because of the 2000s hate and thinking his jokes are offensive lol
@claasortmann977310 сағат бұрын
i love this. details matter so so much! thanks so much. one would wish peter jackson would watch this and agree
@IonutTudorica10 сағат бұрын
Why?
@Steven-jx7ch12 сағат бұрын
1/6 level teaspoon of Mac a day, it is interesting. . .
@TheArbiterOfTruth12 сағат бұрын
5:49 if you watch the 4K editions on an OLED tv it looks phenomenal. 8:59 why does this matter? Who watches the credits? 14:50 me too. I’m not a fan of the hobbit films.
@Shadow-gm9ct5 сағат бұрын
It doesn’t help his case that he said “90% of the remaster is great” either. And that he followed it up with “the 10% _annoys_ me.”
@spikewilliamКүн бұрын
As a colorist I concur on everything you've pointed out. This is obviously not a 4K Scan that was done for the making of the 4K UHD Disc. It would have been too expensive for the studio. Here in France Studio Canal completely re-master Brotherwhood of the wolf. New scan of the original 35mm nagatives reels, as well of Inter-negatives with visual effects, they redo evertyhting from scratch. They changed the color grading because at that time it was not possible to be as precise as today in splitting tones. This is a lot of hard work, and to be honest most people wouldn't care that much. The audience today wants flat and soft images like the one they see on Netflix "content". Most people really think that T2 our Aliens UHD discs are incredible... beacause it "looks" modern without any grain structure. If you're interested I work on several movies restorations on my KZread channel. Re-mastering in 4K & Regrading in HDR Aliens to the looks it has on 35mm, working on True Lies or the Matrix too.
@remina8205Күн бұрын
Whoa. I wasn't even aware of this
@PimpinBassie2Күн бұрын
2K upscaled to 4K is a pure ca$hgrab
@sotoninКүн бұрын
Why would they remaster perfection? What are you gaining out of it? There's been no change in visual quality of film and they were already shot in such high resolution.
@EarMaster55Күн бұрын
Seems like someone hasn't had his second or third breakfast…
@toreole5831Күн бұрын
The title question is stupid, because yes, it has already been remastered for release on blu-ray… So either you missed that, or the entire video is based on a wrong understanding of what a remaster is
@Shadow-gm9ct20 сағат бұрын
Soft clickbait is what it is.
@srsjacksonКүн бұрын
That's why physical media is important. The original versions should not become lost media. Have you seen what they did to The Phantom Menace? And I'm sure they won't release DUNE in 1.43:1 IMAX ratio on Blu-ray neither.
@jade2fastКүн бұрын
i kinda disagree with what you said about dwight, and his character going through that depression. the office has always been uncomfortable. even in the early seasons, especially those. there is rarely a great resolution or even a resolution at the end of any episode, i think dwight being "not funny" kind of reflects that. everyone in the office is extreme in their own way. for dwight to reflect that uncomfortable reality of the situations the office finds themselves in is actually hella interesting, to me at least. i never saw the office as trying to be funny all of the time, every time.
@Shadow-gm9ctКүн бұрын
7:12 “As far as I know…” Bad idea.
@AudieHolland2 күн бұрын
Kids today are spoiled... In my days, we were glad to see a movie once or twice in the theatre. When it was released on VHS, we rushed to rent it. We never complained about clarity, artifacts or VHS noise. We didn't even have the full picture, unless we got a version that added two black bars, top and bottom of screen, because our tv sets were in the 4:3 format. I will never care about 4K. HD is good enough for me. Also I have bad eyesight.
@cthellis2 күн бұрын
Did Taub cheat on his wife?
@cthellis2 күн бұрын
Die’ers Remorse?
@ChillGoblin2 күн бұрын
Another aspect of the lion king shot that I loved is the way they distort Simba's facial features in the same way a camera will distort your features the closer it gets to your face- his nose gets bigger, his ears move behind his head, his eyes move further apart. If you compare Simba's face before and after the vertigo shot is completed, it's much more correctly proportioned. The attention to detail here is incredible!
@KristianSkylstad2 күн бұрын
This kind of color tint was a trend when the 4K version came out.
@user-ph8jt1mh9f2 күн бұрын
The Lord of the Rings has no remaster, The Lord of the Rings needs no remaster.
@hachaunguyen7292 күн бұрын
Can you share the link to the fan version on 1337x, or the keyword, since the search engine on that website is pretty crappy.
@jefo24052 күн бұрын
A video with this much content and context should maybe not be named after a question you can answer with yes or no. Maybe it should have been called "The remastering of LOTR"?
@Shadow-gm9ct2 күн бұрын
Especially since the answer is yes.
@Shadow-gm9ct5 сағат бұрын
“The Pros and Cons of the LOTR Remaster” should’ve been the way he approached it.
@__teles__2 күн бұрын
Fixating on your first experience as the only true correct one is dangerous
@Shadow-gm9ct2 күн бұрын
Sex be like:
@gptiede2 күн бұрын
Another instance of the dumbing down of America.
@ryuk56732 күн бұрын
100% agree with the Lothlorian sequence. They got rid of the blue glow and it defeated the whole purpose.
@uwuphobia7282 күн бұрын
Do we need a remastered version?
@arturocastroverde33492 күн бұрын
is ironic how life works, tom efforst so much with summer but with autum is just feels natural
@z-beeblebrox3 күн бұрын
It's a grave mistake to believe that the film industry has grown over time to support film preservation. No, they support film preservation only because they see ways to make money off it. If it doesn't make money, or a new way to get it to make money isn't found, it goes in a trash, just like the lost silent films.
@imabeapirate3 күн бұрын
the answer is no this should have been a ten second video
@mopeybloke3 күн бұрын
It totally can though. It'll take rescanning, but eh
@Shadow-gm9ctКүн бұрын
The answer is yes. Cuz it was.
@TaleOfTwoIdiots3 күн бұрын
It’s a work of art. It was what it was the day it was released. As much as I loved the extended editions (my name was in the credits on the DVD), if the extra footage was all that great, it would have been in the theatrical release. Peter et al, need to let it go. It’s done. We never see painters going into art galleries “updating “ their paintings with the latest colors.
@bardust3 күн бұрын
Remasters have never been for genuine fans. Neither in muic nor film. Just another marketing gimmick to the sheep masses who buy into buzzwords without the knowledge to know it's all worthless...
@Shadow-gm9ct2 күн бұрын
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@PaulStewart913 күн бұрын
THANK YOU for making this video! I thought I was the only one feeling like this, lots of people seems not to notice or care, they only think: more resolution=better quality. I am keeping my extended edition dvds like a treasure.
@joelsprunger3 күн бұрын
Is there a fan version of The Hobbit where they remove 60% of each film and the whole thing is the length of 1 movie?
@mtthwpnn3 күн бұрын
I still maintain this show never jumped the shark (if you overlook the Renesaince fair episode)
@Cowpitulate3 күн бұрын
why would it need to be? its still beautiful in its current condition and the colours are grim and real.
@z3roo03 күн бұрын
really REALLY hope it does not. They will try to overshadow or even "remove" any traces of the old one. It will be hyper politically correct and they will change many thing to fit this narrative. I REALLY do not trust them to make an honest attempt at it.
@Shadow-gm9ct2 күн бұрын
That’s not what a remaster is.
@Henkibojj3 күн бұрын
And here I thought I had the bluray extended version which would be the end of all versions. Then I learned there was a 4K version and now that I have equipment for it, I thought "well, a shame I have to pay once more but okay", only to learn that the 4K version is bad as well. What version should I even get? I thought Star Wars releases were the only series with this trouble.
@Shadow-gm9ct2 күн бұрын
4K with a good sound system and Dolby Vision TV.
@Wes129403 күн бұрын
"needs TEAL AND ORANGE" -- every colorist ever
@SirQuantization3 күн бұрын
This was incredibly fascinating.
@vtrip_3 күн бұрын
there is detail in film grain. and it should be kept. i want the 4k remaster to look like a film projector. its the way it was shot, and it should be preserved that way. the versions on HBO Max seem to be fine.
@dentReviews3 күн бұрын
your personal upscale credits at the end is genius.
@FuturisticFlapper3 күн бұрын
Having both DVD and SD digital versions of the extended trilogy, even the SD digital version seems to have some color degradation from the original, which weirdly doesn't seem to be present in the HD digital theatrical version.
@RbDaP3 күн бұрын
let's be honest: your conclusion is more in line with the whole Legendarium than most of the people's visions about LotR and the shaky relationship that Jackson has with it.
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I trust The Digital Bits and I trust my eyes. It's a rescan
I don't know what are you all about. The 4K version looks much sharper and crisper than the blu ray, it's a night and day difference
This is really disappointing and frustrating. I got the 4K Extended films because my family watches the every year - it's become a New Year's tradition. When we watched the 4K versions, I loved the detail, but I noticed that some things were very off with the color. Especially, everyone from Rohan with blonde hair at Helm's Deep had a greenish tint to their hair. I thought ti might be due to my screen, which is a 43" 4K monitor, but tweaking the monitor settings, I couldn't really fix the greenish-looking hair. Some other scenes didn't look right but I didn't really study them hard enough to figure out what was wrong, I just knew that things didn't look right. From this documentary I learned that Jackson may have screwed up the colors deliberately to match the grading of scenes in The Hobbit, and I'm horrified! We don't use the H-word in this house - those movies are atrocious. This is like restoring Star Trek, and altering everything to match the animated series... or George Lucas altering the original Star Wars. Thank G-d _that_ would never happen 😠 We'll probably watch the extended edition DVDs again next New Year's and leave it at that. If they ever do release a decent 4K edition, am I gonna have to buy the White Album yet again?
35mm is actually 5K resolution, better than 4K bluray. It just has film grain and imperfections still. As long as 35mm exists it can be remastered. But these AI assisted remasters lately are terrible
This 3rd Part is weird, it’s a different type of Analysis, the first two parts were purely about the Show, now you’re trying everything you can to make the show look as bad as possible, not because the show is actually bad, but because you don’t like some of the usual House jokes, which you sympathized with in the first two parts. This Analysis turned from good to extremely bad the moment you started voicing things that are both stupid and untrue. Hopefully, you go back to an actual Analysis of the Show in the rest of this. (Also, the moment you started talking about any type of trans stuff was the moment you completely went off course and just started saying the most random and coincidental stuff, while also including some truth so that you can make your personal, biased Opinions of 2021/2022 sound like real Facts and not just delusional stuff)
you talked so much but still missed so many important aspacts....
These films deserve a full rescan of all the 35mm footage. To throw it into Topaz and just upscale the footage is beyond lazy, even with taking out the CGI and upscaling it separately. Only way to get a truly Native 4k print is to scan the negatives. Truly embarrassing stuff.
a video was not needed to answer this question, it's simple.. yes it can get remade, should it get remade? thats another question... for the most part, no, it should not get remade, but there is one way it could get remade, and that is properly, instead of 3 movies, it should be six, peter jackson messed up alot of important character development and even veto'd whole parts of the story, messed around witht he pacing and ordering and if you ever read the books, you will realise, peter jacksons trilogy, is, terrible!
That’s not what a remaster is.
I subscribed because of the commitment to house then i immediately unsubscribed watching this because of the 2000s hate and thinking his jokes are offensive lol
i love this. details matter so so much! thanks so much. one would wish peter jackson would watch this and agree
Why?
1/6 level teaspoon of Mac a day, it is interesting. . .
5:49 if you watch the 4K editions on an OLED tv it looks phenomenal. 8:59 why does this matter? Who watches the credits? 14:50 me too. I’m not a fan of the hobbit films.
It doesn’t help his case that he said “90% of the remaster is great” either. And that he followed it up with “the 10% _annoys_ me.”
As a colorist I concur on everything you've pointed out. This is obviously not a 4K Scan that was done for the making of the 4K UHD Disc. It would have been too expensive for the studio. Here in France Studio Canal completely re-master Brotherwhood of the wolf. New scan of the original 35mm nagatives reels, as well of Inter-negatives with visual effects, they redo evertyhting from scratch. They changed the color grading because at that time it was not possible to be as precise as today in splitting tones. This is a lot of hard work, and to be honest most people wouldn't care that much. The audience today wants flat and soft images like the one they see on Netflix "content". Most people really think that T2 our Aliens UHD discs are incredible... beacause it "looks" modern without any grain structure. If you're interested I work on several movies restorations on my KZread channel. Re-mastering in 4K & Regrading in HDR Aliens to the looks it has on 35mm, working on True Lies or the Matrix too.
Whoa. I wasn't even aware of this
2K upscaled to 4K is a pure ca$hgrab
Why would they remaster perfection? What are you gaining out of it? There's been no change in visual quality of film and they were already shot in such high resolution.
Seems like someone hasn't had his second or third breakfast…
The title question is stupid, because yes, it has already been remastered for release on blu-ray… So either you missed that, or the entire video is based on a wrong understanding of what a remaster is
Soft clickbait is what it is.
That's why physical media is important. The original versions should not become lost media. Have you seen what they did to The Phantom Menace? And I'm sure they won't release DUNE in 1.43:1 IMAX ratio on Blu-ray neither.
i kinda disagree with what you said about dwight, and his character going through that depression. the office has always been uncomfortable. even in the early seasons, especially those. there is rarely a great resolution or even a resolution at the end of any episode, i think dwight being "not funny" kind of reflects that. everyone in the office is extreme in their own way. for dwight to reflect that uncomfortable reality of the situations the office finds themselves in is actually hella interesting, to me at least. i never saw the office as trying to be funny all of the time, every time.
7:12 “As far as I know…” Bad idea.
Kids today are spoiled... In my days, we were glad to see a movie once or twice in the theatre. When it was released on VHS, we rushed to rent it. We never complained about clarity, artifacts or VHS noise. We didn't even have the full picture, unless we got a version that added two black bars, top and bottom of screen, because our tv sets were in the 4:3 format. I will never care about 4K. HD is good enough for me. Also I have bad eyesight.
Did Taub cheat on his wife?
Die’ers Remorse?
Another aspect of the lion king shot that I loved is the way they distort Simba's facial features in the same way a camera will distort your features the closer it gets to your face- his nose gets bigger, his ears move behind his head, his eyes move further apart. If you compare Simba's face before and after the vertigo shot is completed, it's much more correctly proportioned. The attention to detail here is incredible!
This kind of color tint was a trend when the 4K version came out.
The Lord of the Rings has no remaster, The Lord of the Rings needs no remaster.
Can you share the link to the fan version on 1337x, or the keyword, since the search engine on that website is pretty crappy.
A video with this much content and context should maybe not be named after a question you can answer with yes or no. Maybe it should have been called "The remastering of LOTR"?
Especially since the answer is yes.
“The Pros and Cons of the LOTR Remaster” should’ve been the way he approached it.
Fixating on your first experience as the only true correct one is dangerous
Sex be like:
Another instance of the dumbing down of America.
100% agree with the Lothlorian sequence. They got rid of the blue glow and it defeated the whole purpose.
Do we need a remastered version?
is ironic how life works, tom efforst so much with summer but with autum is just feels natural
It's a grave mistake to believe that the film industry has grown over time to support film preservation. No, they support film preservation only because they see ways to make money off it. If it doesn't make money, or a new way to get it to make money isn't found, it goes in a trash, just like the lost silent films.
the answer is no this should have been a ten second video
It totally can though. It'll take rescanning, but eh
The answer is yes. Cuz it was.
It’s a work of art. It was what it was the day it was released. As much as I loved the extended editions (my name was in the credits on the DVD), if the extra footage was all that great, it would have been in the theatrical release. Peter et al, need to let it go. It’s done. We never see painters going into art galleries “updating “ their paintings with the latest colors.
Remasters have never been for genuine fans. Neither in muic nor film. Just another marketing gimmick to the sheep masses who buy into buzzwords without the knowledge to know it's all worthless...
…
THANK YOU for making this video! I thought I was the only one feeling like this, lots of people seems not to notice or care, they only think: more resolution=better quality. I am keeping my extended edition dvds like a treasure.
Is there a fan version of The Hobbit where they remove 60% of each film and the whole thing is the length of 1 movie?
I still maintain this show never jumped the shark (if you overlook the Renesaince fair episode)
why would it need to be? its still beautiful in its current condition and the colours are grim and real.
really REALLY hope it does not. They will try to overshadow or even "remove" any traces of the old one. It will be hyper politically correct and they will change many thing to fit this narrative. I REALLY do not trust them to make an honest attempt at it.
That’s not what a remaster is.
And here I thought I had the bluray extended version which would be the end of all versions. Then I learned there was a 4K version and now that I have equipment for it, I thought "well, a shame I have to pay once more but okay", only to learn that the 4K version is bad as well. What version should I even get? I thought Star Wars releases were the only series with this trouble.
4K with a good sound system and Dolby Vision TV.
"needs TEAL AND ORANGE" -- every colorist ever
This was incredibly fascinating.
there is detail in film grain. and it should be kept. i want the 4k remaster to look like a film projector. its the way it was shot, and it should be preserved that way. the versions on HBO Max seem to be fine.
your personal upscale credits at the end is genius.
Having both DVD and SD digital versions of the extended trilogy, even the SD digital version seems to have some color degradation from the original, which weirdly doesn't seem to be present in the HD digital theatrical version.
let's be honest: your conclusion is more in line with the whole Legendarium than most of the people's visions about LotR and the shaky relationship that Jackson has with it.