Who are we?
What is 'this'?
'Why' is this?
What is it like to be you?
In this series of dialogues we pair scientists studying consciousness with those of us who have broken through to a radically different experience of consciousness. Their task: to answer these four simple questions and find meeting points.
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Thanks for having Richard on. ❤
Seeking union with all that is is such a silly activity when you think about it.
There's no-one to be free, only freedom. This message is either simply heard, or not and Jim Newman delivers it seamlessly. Thank you for posting. 🙏🏽
11:10 - 12:15 Jim goes on a non-dual which even confuses himself. How is Jim so happy to describe something which ‘can’t be known’ but he is okay to mention it. How does he know it so clearly if it can’t be known or even defined.
You won’t hear Jim mention the subconscious mind, it doesn’t fit his model.
What about the dinosaurs Jim if this is all there is?
Jim is not a teacher because there is no message as he says so himself.
I do like her. She's a great prosecutor and doesn't let anything go by.
"Non-duality teacher" LOL. Jim's hair would stand up if he read that.
He was way out of her league. She really was unable to realize, understand or get what he was pointing at. She’s spent so much time in her books and writing that the living breathing subject she was seeking all her life was embodied right there in front of her and she just couldn’t recognize it.
Ok. We are the universe. Yes, it's factually true. Physics proves this. Why do people like Jim think they're saying something unique and not understandable?
Every coin has two sides. Just make sure it's not counterfeit. This was was the real deal.
Would make a great marriage these two
Lovely. And I like how at the end Richard said he didn't know where he was going with it, which was a bit like being between the levels he was talking about in that moment ha!
Harding pointed out that from a visual point of view there’s not much evidence that we’re individuals. The same is true of our auditary experience, our physical sensations (who’s breathing? Who’s thoughts are these? Our direct experience seems to conflict with the feeling of “I’m me.,”
Jim is just riding a dreambus to $$$ fueled by the insights of Buddhism.
Fifty years ago I decided to steal a book to see what it felt like. And because it fit easily into my coat pocket I chose “On Having No Head.”. Great choice!
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1:39:00 - finish Here Richard perfectly demonstrates he has never actually transcended the apparent division between subject and object, he just plays with various morphings of it.
1:11:28 - 1:12:00 This actually goes to show that to say „I am god“ is false as long as one uses „I“ for one’s limited pov, as in „I like pizza“. Otherwise why should there be _anything_ surprising or worth noting about everyone being _included_ in the limitless ? Isn‘t that trivial ? The only one who is justified in such a declaration is one whose limited pov has _actually_ and _effectively_ been obliterated and disidentified with to where not even the most protracted and severe torture would elicit in him the slightest fear or unhappiness. An ibn Arabi, a Nisargadatta Maharaj etc. To all others, such pronouncements just might be tested by Life itself to their own profound remorse … better to „repent“ uncoerced while one can.
Suffering is like medicine has to taste awful if it is going to do you good .
19:16 Closed eyes experience of a non-blind person has no resemblance to that of someone blind from birth.
Human behavior experts say Jim exhibits numerous times behaviors that he is uneasy and has inner feelings that when trying to explain" this " he doesn't feel comfortable with the vacillation of being a "self" experiencing illusion and the "nothing " he claims to explain from the "self" he claims is illusory. Pure sophistry. There are some people in the world who have never seen or been through tough living.
human behaviour experts are people staring at jim on youtube and trying to guess why he moved his hand at 5 minutes in
Jim Newman needs to teach people in Jail this stuff
What a wonderful conversation. 🙏🏻❤️
Sue please stop cutting him off 😢
Hahaha 😂brilliant !!! That's what a separate self does, it NEEDS... to be... heard, understood, seen, powerful, etc etc The appearance Jim , doesn't need... the longing is fulfilled.
So we all pack up and go home? You either get struck by nonexistent lightning or you don’t? This may be true but being told we are abjectly helpless is pretty depressing. 🤷🏻♂️😕🙏
home sounds nice 🙂
Karl is the person in the world I would mist like to spend time with. He is the embodiment of the 'yes, and' type of being that McGilcrist describes rather than the "yes, but".
Rupert couldn't handle Jim
No further questions your honour! Great conversation and lovely to see how two seemingly different perspectives can actually have so much in common 🧐 ❤
Jim shares this message so well, his words are on point!
This was a beautifuly balanced conversation. As it developed I felt an flowering as if that flower being xreated was answering the 'enveloped' questions
sorry for all my typos...what I meant to say was it was a beautifully balanced conversation that created a 'flower' from the answering of these questions.
wonderful conversation: need of being seen, kindly.
I think there's definetly a process going on before anyone can have their 'moment' of waking up - a line. Before and after that line.. Jim did lots of meditation himself. I think it's unhelpful to assume you can just be however you are right now and expect anything to happen. I believe inner work is most often necessary before you can have nondual awareness. Possibly a few rare brains might wake up spontaneously, but that's very rare indeed.
She knows that she is not right haha
Fantastic! Thanks Richard, Anjali, Iwan and Gordon ❤
I don’t want to be a wet blanket, but I thought I’d leave this comment here. The headless way caused me to dissociate for years. In 2021, when I was a desperate spiritual seeker, I came across Richard Lang’s “experiments” in Sam Harris’s Waking Up app. I became obsessed with them, because they seemed to “so easily get you enlightened”…that was the promise, anyway. I thought that if I could “see that I had no head” 100% of the time, I’d be *seeing the world as it really was,* or something along those lines. In actuality, I dissociated, depersonalized, and probably became diagnosably psychotic. The whole “two sides of you” thing…it’s directly dualistic, and using that formula, I sort of trained myself to “see myself from the first person perspective instead of the third person.” In other words, I taught myself to live solipsistically, and it was absolutely isolating and truly, truly awful. You have to actively keep up the act of doing it, too; it’s exhausting. Every second, you have to actively practice “seeing you have no head,” despite the fact that they claim it’s “simply what you are.” (If it was what you already were, why would you need to “discover” it? Or even “remember” it?) If someone claims to teach you “how to see nonduality,” they’re almost certainly being very, very, very dualistic…dividing everything into the “dual” and the “nondual.” The “first and third person perspectives.” I’m not attacking Richard, here. He seems like a very sweet and earnest man, as I think Harding was. And the headless way is an interesting exercise…once or twice I had some very, very vivid experiences using its technique. But they were just that…interesting experiences. There’s no higher truth in them, nothing to carry around with you, nothing to apply. The moment you get invested in trying to “see you’re headless” as a means of coping with things in your life, become enlightened, etc., you’re setting yourself up to really, really harm yourself psychologically and socially. In his interview with Sam on the podcast, Richard even directly states that he once had a huge public panic attack, which he tried and failed to overcome by “coming back to his true nature and recognizing he didn’t have a head.” Even here-and not to project, I don’t know what he’s experiencing-he seems very spaced out. The body isn’t naturally meant to relate to others that way. You have to actively teach it to, actively make everything feel that way. There is no magical substance, no mystical screen of pure awareness, in the “space where your head is.” You can train yourself to live as though there is, as though it’s “what you really are,” but actively trying to apply that as some kind of pure Truth or Reality only interferes with your ability to intuit sensory relationships. The body naturally knows how to visually sense things a lot better when you’re not actively feeding every perception through the filter of “my true nature.” “Experiencing things with the purity of no filter” is still a filter. Anyway, just be safe out there, guys. Love you 💙 Edit: Watched a little more, and Dr. Bhat seems wonderful! Very engaging speaker :)
In other words seeks happiness
I completely understand Jim Newman. Does this mean I'm enlightened ? Ha !
Jim is so simple, like life itself. Sue feels like an agitated mind desperately trying to prove its existence and not to die. bot beautiful and innocent, done by no one. it's just what's happening. thank you!
Sue is still wearing purple on hair and clothes.
If it can't be known, how does he Know that nothing is happening and it can't be known?
What He means is that only the individual can know and there is no individual to know so it is an unknown
Thank you so much ❤
Mind vs what is
Great conversation, Catherine is lovely. It's refreshing to hear someone speak about 'radical' non-duality without adding 'apparently' to every sentence, constantly reaffirming 'there's nobody here' and dismissing everything as 'it's just......' Her ConsciousTV interview is well worth a watch too.
beautiful
Melting brain and heart in god and live as human❤
after watching this video i started to believe in jesus
Delightful conversation that never happened. Enjoyed and Subscribed. Thank You 👍🙏