Another way is possible.
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A way of learning to ride which empowers the rider with the tools to really understand the What, the Why, AND the How.
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For everyone interested: Everyone can do WE, no matter what riding style you prefer. Its worth to test it out 😊
Really enjoyed this. Thank you!
Kristen thank you for sharing your story, love your candor and sense of humor!
At 55min in, Thomas speaks of preparation, execution, then resetting. This concept jolted me - this is a fundamental concept in the study of chanoyu, the Japn tea ceremony - preparation, execution, then putting things back to where they were. So lovely and respectful a concept, the rhythm of doing things well and in the time it takes ❤
Thank you for sharing your story, I found it very inspiring, I have a young Andalusian horse who I’ve not felt good enough for, I just need to start
Yes, just take that first step. Your horse will certainly believe you are good enough, you just have to learn it for yourself. if you but try, they always appreciate it. Come join us on this new journey into the What, Why and How of riding and working with a horse, even a youngster. We wish you the best on your journey.
I hear a lot of " moving with the horse" and depends on what a person was taught...the answers are different. Some learned an now teach that BOTH hips/ pelvis move forward together, some say hips/ pelvice move independently straight forward, others have learnd/ teaches that hips/ pelvice move alternatively with an arch- toward the neck, others explain it as hips/ pelvis moving in a bavk- paddling way. The moving with both sides of the hips/ pelvis (the " intercourse-move" seems to be the most used...effecting upper body including arms and hands rather moving against the horse. What is your learning/ teaching on this? If we take a horsrs biomechanic in consideration- in walk ( trot/ canter will be obviously different) how would a balanced, relaxed body move?
Please join the Live session later today and post this excellent question into the Q&A
@@headtohoofequine1106 I hope I can. Have a very sick dog and a sick lil ponie...really trying to go live with everybody...thanks for reply
Hi from Australia, I watched less is more and applied this today with my young ottb. I have been teaching latural movements from the ground and under saddle. Listening to the less is more, I went back to groundwork and then in saddle at walk and trot. When he offered a try, carrots, I went slow and got several very good strides in leg yield, haunches in, half pass, turn on for hand he has nailed. When he lost the stride we went straight and reward with scratches and long rein. Thanks for reminding me, train with patience..❤
I'm glad the session and the principles outline helped you in your training! Catherine
Namaste gentlemen fan's good morning how are you fine thanks have a great day.🇳🇵🌹🙏
Probably the most beautiful display of equestrian skill I’ve ever seen. The horse is foot perfect and has such a slow, relaxed collected canter. Mind blown.
yes so true and as a returnee rider of a certain age and with injuries in the neck and shoulders I am very aware that I can be and feel stiff .. I feel terrible if this affects the lovely horse I would like to ride and get
For once yep exactly I always wonder how we do that..they keep saying this etc..very few people explain how we achieve this ..the doctors very often treat the symptoms but rarely address the cause
Unfortunately I have to watch the replay because of the time of the live webinar ..so no scholarship...;-(
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom. Love your approach!!
Don't feel bad everybody mispronounces Leicestershire....
Hello from the Netherlands! Thank you in advance for sharing your knowledge with us! Much obliged. The parts on elasticity in the horse that will help makes the movements softer and you can sit better, really resonated with me. My Cob moves big and is tossing me everywhere. Sitting the trot is not possible. I keep trying to get him softer, but really do not know how the make his joints move more 'elastic'. I hope there will be tips on how to exercise this. Little side-note: I had fun with the automatic subtiteling: the mistakes were sometimes hilarious🤣 "dressage" becoming "massage", "bridle" turned "bridal" and such
Love the discussion of finding center. Such an important concept that's missing in most training.
I always enjoy your training explanations of how, what, when, and why. I'm looking forward to this 5-day challenge. Thank you!
Great session. It wouldn't let me comment live. Off to complete my homework now!
? @ 48:47 are the frontiers a bit too far under? It looks like the horse is on forehand? Just curious.
Great info! Thank you❤
Most rider misunderstand the Core-muscles as abdamon muscles. But, to my understanding Core-muscles are our stability muscles which are closest to ther vertabrae
I have all the seat mistakes except the falling forward argh!!!!
Then you're in good company! Most of us (myself included) have struggled with these seat mistakes at one point or another!
Starting from scratch and explaining "logical" things is what is missing in most of the courses related to horses. I like that you are doing exactly that, explaining "logical" basics 😊 I'd like if the sound in your clips would be better, voice is somehow quite. Thank you.
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What about getting the former riders of the school to document the procedures and methods used in training in order to preserve this so that it is not lost?
This is why eventing dressage remains our actual dressage. Those horses are race horses. All day, every day.
Permeability for Durchlässigkeit. Good English for good German.
Thank you so much. I am now working on steady Tempo.. in walk and trott . I think that is our challenge in the moment. Only to help her.
Thank you for sharing..really appreciated the videos and incites
Absolutely love these q&a's. As a coach,these are so very helpful. I can't thank you enough.....however, just a little pointer....when Thomas speaks in German..😍....I could listen on a loop...he could read the dictionary and it would sound fabulous 😂🤩🤩
Incredible gate. Wow. 😮😮😮
Thanks ever so much for sharing all your knowledge - your courses are surely an option to consider & sound promising. All super important information for the benefit of our horses 😊
Thankyou, for your information, your learning and the presentation. There's a lot to take in and apply. I'd love to join the full course, l but current circumstances don't allow
Thank you for the amazing insights! ❤
Thank you so much Shana and Thomas I’m at a point where all is this makes sense. Thank you for your united efforts. I appreciate your respect for each other. Please please don’t lose that .
I am still of the opinion that rolkur was derived from a misunderstanding or an unfortunate new twist on Ramener Otra supported by Baucher (and deKerbrect, General L’Hotte, and Beudant, etc). Anky’s husband Sheif Jensen (sp?) was a serious student of the students of Oliveria in Belgium and he introduced this method to Anky who claimed she had to learn to train horses “all over again” from him. Of course you know the history so I’m not saying anything new. The issue I have is that almost no one who criticizes rolkur so aggressively reveals this or believes it. How easy would it be for ambitious, impatient trainers seeking fame to discover and adapt Ramener otra to their own needs and further abuse an already disputable practice to their methods. Clearly, failing to acknowledge strong criticism, they succeeded. There is an element of Ramener otra, in theory, that “the horse cannot be ridden into resistance” and horses who yield to the bit or cavesson unconditionally accept and respond to the leg much better than horses who pull or drop the bit. This is acknowledged in traditional training as well. It should be noted that Ramener otra along with effect de ensemble were discarded in Baucher’s second manner and yet Nuno Oliveria and General DeCarpentry sought to develop a system that would incorporate the traditional German school with Baucher. Luis Valencia, Jean Claude Racinet and many other historical figures were known to be captured by Baucher’s ideas and tolerated them with an open mind. But hyper flexion is a razor blade in the hands of a monkey as you illustrate in the painful videos. Lacking skill and patience and serious study and evaluation to incorporate it into a useful and humane system, it is an example of the dark side of human nature. Your three part videos are a blessing to dressage students who don’t get your clear and comprehensive explanations from even very competent and dedicated trainers. “The problem with communication is the assumption it has been accomplished.” (George Bernard Shaw). The shorthand expressions in dressage and the need for detailed explanations combined with the student’s reluctance to admit he/she doesn’t understand are an unfortunate source of diminishing returns. Many thanks for your contributions!
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I hear you say bit or bitless does not matter. How is this so? The contact of the bit connects the reins to the horses hocks. Via the hyoid. If bitless has no connection to the hyoid how is bitless the same?
The hyoid does not need a bit to come into play or release, as the mouth/tongue help to release it. Connection of the rein to the horse and through to hocks can happen without a bit. In fact this circle of aids can happen with or without a bit, and even without a rider, like when working in hand or on longe. Achieving 'on the bit' has nothing to do with the bit.
@@headtohoofequine1106 wow. I need to digest this. So I need more information or a more thorough explanation. What is the connection? Is it more mental than physical. Is it pressure here causes contraction there. What?
My whole learning has been hyoid to hocks. I ride an I feel. My connection is connected to my horses hocks. No connection is a horse who lolli gags where ever it chooses. We need to connect to communicate and the reins and bit are THE connection. The hyoid accesses the body. Please reeducate me.
@@headtohoofequine1106 the mouth and the tongue help to release the hyoid. So the hyoid is still the key. Could we then say it is more difficult to activate the mouth and the tongue and consequently the hyoid without a bit. But it can be done. Is this for novices? Why is this not taught at lower levels? Is the bit a crutch? So many questions.
@@janetgerl893 It's a huge can of worms. If you haven't joined this Challenge, you really should and ask these questions in the group, but much of the 'how' is explained within the content of this Challenge, really. In my education, I have learned about the hyoid and how to release it, because I have a mare that manages to hold tension there and my Masterson Method body worked explained it to me and showed me some exercises to help her release it. I think this may be part of the french Legerete method too, but I am not super familiar with that method, tbh. As to this idea of you must have a bit to connect to the hocks, I say bah. You do not need a bit to connect to the hocks, you just need the horse working correctly engaged and 'through'. I was taught the poll and the hocks are connected. Anyway, being able to help the horse work correctly engaged can happen without a bit. I know because I get this just working on longe in just a cavesson alone. (I don't use anything but cavesson, line and longe whip) To get the connection under saddle without a bit, it is basically the same, it's the connection of the aids, the circle of the aids, where the horses hind legs connect through the back to the rider to the hands to the horse's head and cycles back again to the rider through the back and to the hind legs. When the horse is working correctly from back to front you don't even really need reins for this cycle of the energy to travel back and forth. the hind legs push, it travels over the back to the rider's seat and hands , the horse's head will react to the energy of the hind legs pushing off the ground, and it cycles right back to the hind legs the same way as if there is a bit and reins, or a halter and a rope. I am not sure it's the hyoid that is the key, for myself it is the hind legs folding and pushing that is the key. It's true if the hyoid is blocked they can hold tension in jaw and poll and may have trouble releasing both. But, I believe it is also true that they can release in the poll and jaw and that will release the hyoid as well. The hyoid can be one of the puzzle pieces to getting that bit of lipstick which most of us use as an indicator to how relaxed the jaw and poll are. Lastly, just because I may ride occasionally bitless doesn't mean my horse is just lolli-gagging around. Hahaha I am a dressage rider, even bareback and tackless. ;) Join the Challenge, lots more information in there.
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Wolfgang always told us inside leg to outside hand but your stirrup stepping added a new complete element. Thanks
I find it so frustrating how much incorrect riding I learned in my early years that could have been avoided if the horse community used better words and expressions. On the bit, half halt, straighten your back, draw back your shoulders, down with your heels. Lies, lies, lies. Would someone please make me a dictionary?
Excellent observation. Lies are told because the truth is hard to learn and has to be studied with intent. Many or most riders approach dressage as a form of entertainment in the form of sport. Most riders do this from ignorance that is cultivated with “lies” that perpetuate ignorance and keep the students in their comfort zone with “hope” as their motivation. Even the most dedicated trainers do this out of necessity. It’s a cultural norm.
Horrible to think this is done purposely 😢
The 1st rollkür picture with the chestnut horse is not Gribaldi, it's Patrick Kittel and Scandic in London in 2012.
Those riders have to be sadistic they must enjoy causing pain and discomfort there is no other logical explanation. It is obviously distressing for the animal yet they carry on. How judges, FEI ect allow this is inconceivable. Great video I’m really enjoying this series really informative I’m learning alot.
omg😡 I want to share this 😢😭😱😥
The footage you highlighted and your super clear explanations are incredibly helpful. I have a Mexican campo pony of indiscriminate lineage that likely falls somewhere below your "mediocre' classification that goes better - or at least with more back to front freedom and engagement - than some of those unfortunate equine souls ridden with little to no compassion or understanding by some of the, at the time, "top riders" in the world. GoldenBoy and I have a looooooong way to go but at least now you have confirmed that I'm not damaging him and may even be helping him stay healthy longer. Thank you for this absolutely clear explanation of the concept of what "Behind the bit" looks like and the damage it does. That blue tongue is going to haunt me. Poor, poor boy.
Eeeek how can I turn off subtitles, it's really interruptive and when I cc turn on I get double visual verbage. "Off" still leaves words showing
Some parts are so difficult to watch. 😢 Thank you guys for continuing this movement to correct training. Keep up the good fight!!!❤
And rath as well
Anky is an ordinary, primitive criminal, nothing else