Two Composers One Channel

Two Composers One Channel

Welcome to Two Composers One Channel with Australian composers Thomas Misson and Angus Davison. Join us for discussion, interviews, guides to our favourite modern works, and composing hacks. The weird and wonderful world of composing and contemporary classical music awaits!

We acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which we work, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation and the Nipaluna people of Lutruwita, and pay our respects to their Elders past and present.

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  • @tammoton9494
    @tammoton9494Күн бұрын

    Arvo Pärt being the best-selling composer alive, it's too bad he's not on this list.

  • @darioramonetti1483
    @darioramonetti1483Күн бұрын

    Todos pendejos mis pas

  • @selcano0575
    @selcano05756 күн бұрын

    Overrated Mozart?! The author of Don Giovanni, Le Nozze di Figaro, the six string quartets dedicated to Haydn, the string quintets, the divertimento K 563... For Bach, it's the same. I stopped watching the video. I think both people are unfamiliar with the composers' works. Or know very little about it.

  • @ukdavepianoman
    @ukdavepianoman8 күн бұрын

    I agree Mozart is overrated - for me most of his music doesn't reach the heights of Bach or Beethoven (I suppose in his defence, he did die young but I can't judge what he wasn't able to write). Bach is never overrated. I love Rach and a lot of Tchaikovsky but compared to them I'd say Scriabin and Prokofiev are somewhat underrated.

  • @giannipellegrini2178
    @giannipellegrini21789 күн бұрын

    Vivaldi is not even on the list: your whole listing is overrated.

  • @liliaesperanza4436
    @liliaesperanza443615 күн бұрын

    El hecho que Vivaldi no aparezca lo coloca incluso mas abajo de un compositor subestimado. El fue ignorado.

  • @jacquespoulemer
    @jacquespoulemer16 күн бұрын

    Hi Guys, I've been listening to classical music for 60 years now (I'm 72). I listen everyday. I'm glad you see humour as important and would like to share a humourous tale from my life. A friend of mine and I were discussing composers we liked and I started explaining how for me, over time, there is a sense of accumulation of positivity. I called it Clumping and the Composers I admired most as Clumpers (of course with a K it would be funnier, cf. The Sunshine Boys). You can also think of it as accretion discs which form asteroids, moons, planets, big gassy planets and stars. Yay Lily, Ruth, Arnold, and Francis. All the Best Jacques Mexico Retired. I'm looking forward to more of your content.

  • @FilipSandecomposer
    @FilipSandecomposer19 күн бұрын

    First of all...thanks for such a great chanel! This is so yummi for all music nerds, like me. I have so much things to say about under- or overrated composer, but Beethoven is really for me tooooo overrated. Maybe it has been too much brainwashing going on in every music education over the years, But I find Beethoven is a "great" composer more according to his glorious myth, than to accately his music. If you listen to his music without perfuming it with the "Myth Beethoven", you will find it really poor. And we also know Beethoven had a really hard time writing his music and did struggle very much with that. Many consider that to be a sign of a true genius getting thoroughly in to his idea. But it also as well much means he was not actually good at writing music!!!! And the same thing about his late works, which are being considerated so original and mindblowing. On the other hand you can say it only so bad crafterd music and that is the reason they are "original". I wish I could compose a really bad piece of musc and suddenly everyone thinks I am a genius because it is so "ingenius" or "original". But these are my opinions. Tell me if you disagree! When it comes to underrated composers, I do have so many suggestions. Let me just mention a few: Weinberger. Tubin. Szymanowsky. Scriabin, Gliere, Holst (Not reeeeally underrated...but he wrote more thatn The Planets) George Lloyd!!!! Kaiponen and many more...check them out!

  • @tahaouhabi3520
    @tahaouhabi3520Ай бұрын

    Bach is OVERRATED???? these guys should switch to Taylor Swift

  • @bruceweaver1518
    @bruceweaver1518Ай бұрын

    Johann Sebastian Bach is the king of Classical Music because he had little systematic training. Handel is my composer, but there were limits in his output. He veered more toward the Italian while Bach wrote only for his conscience. I personally think Beethoven is the greatest, but Mozart was always more modern than Beethoven. Hayden has been underrated and when you listen to More of his output, you realize he was more experiment. Wagner is a genius but is overrated. He has his moments but his bad half hours. Debussy is overrated because his Whole Tone scale limited him.

  • @KUobrbufebjosku-uq9yu
    @KUobrbufebjosku-uq9yu2 ай бұрын

    BACH WAS ALWAYS THE BEST!!!!!!!!!

  • @snarf1504
    @snarf15042 ай бұрын

    Lol the amount of butthurt Bach fans in the comments

  • @ofdrumsandchords
    @ofdrumsandchords2 ай бұрын

    You are totally ridiculous. Leave this kind of idiotic debate to kids.

  • @_archimedes
    @_archimedes3 ай бұрын

    >completely skips Wagner because he was a "bad dude" Cringe and 1984 as fuck honestly

  • @Smax15
    @Smax153 ай бұрын

    I was excited to find a new channel I may have warmed up to and then I see you put Bach as overrated....Bach....as......overrated......Have you completely lost your minds? Do not touch the unattainable. Do the list for composers like Sibelius or Grieg or Scriabin or something. What on earth were you thinking? And you lost a subsriber

  • @bachdeanOnline
    @bachdeanOnline3 ай бұрын

    Saying Bach is overrated is an insult to intellectual..you must be someone who doesn't know anything about classical music.There is a reason why genious like Mozart quotes “Bach is the father (of Harmony). We are the children!”

  • @4034miguel
    @4034miguel3 ай бұрын

    Ridiculous list made by two people that do not have the sufficient knowledge to do this. Bach has a great influence on Beethoven, Mozart, Bartok, etc. If he is underrated, everyone else is. To watch: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h4Kb1KpxpZCvecY.html

  • @norafila83
    @norafila833 ай бұрын

    hearing composers say bach is overrated is a true tragedy

  • @Neeverseen
    @Neeverseen3 ай бұрын

    Clowns

  • @LeonoraBassisty104
    @LeonoraBassisty1043 ай бұрын

    The most underrated composer is Sir Arthur Sullivan to me

  • @ladivinafanatic
    @ladivinafanatic3 ай бұрын

    Bach, imo, is underrated, because he’s greater than what 99% of the people think. Also the most perfect composer of them all.

  • @janveselak9324
    @janveselak93244 ай бұрын

    The greatest composers say Bach is the GOAT

  • @markusboyd4834
    @markusboyd48344 ай бұрын

    With respect, these insights are not worth the time

  • @DomFileoreum
    @DomFileoreum4 ай бұрын

    I was so angry about the Bach tier, but as a passionate die hard Lili Boulanger fan, you got my respect back when you talked about her

  • @DomFileoreum
    @DomFileoreum4 ай бұрын

    No Sorabiji?

  • @albertoluiscolon77
    @albertoluiscolon774 ай бұрын

    Hi, I am a composer of symphonies and would like to share with you some of my works kzread.info/dash/bejne/hJejxcpvnLPTm9I.htmlsi=jFvoj5ny8ctJ0oO3

  • @thomcook8570
    @thomcook85704 ай бұрын

    I always feel a bit uncomfortable correcting people but say Alban Berg's name as BairG,

  • @danielfichtner667
    @danielfichtner6675 ай бұрын

    For me Beethoven is the most over rated composer of all times, especially compared to Mozart.. Mozart is infinite times more brilliant.

  • @Tarekseyler
    @Tarekseyler5 ай бұрын

    Aria on g string is the closest thing to gods voice

  • @10stephenrose
    @10stephenrose5 ай бұрын

    Dislike for Mozart, Beethoven and Bach, edgy stuff, did not continue watching, shit opinions mates.

  • @ssarmazi
    @ssarmazi5 ай бұрын

    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to post a video stating Bach and Mozart are overrated and remove all doubt.

  • @flabbybum9562
    @flabbybum95625 ай бұрын

    Stopped at Handel. You scored him overrated on grounds that had nothing at all to do with music, because he wore a big wig, and composed for King George. Just a suggestion - if you're going to rate composers, maybe their music should be a factor?

  • @user-ry1ux5st2t
    @user-ry1ux5st2t5 ай бұрын

    Bach is underrated.

  • @mystic13337
    @mystic133375 ай бұрын

    The moment you put bach in overrated i want to turn the video off xD

  • @ormpi1
    @ormpi16 ай бұрын

    Anubody, who puts any music above bach is an complete idiot

  • @FleuveAlphee
    @FleuveAlphee6 ай бұрын

    There are 3 gymnopedies...

  • @nout1972
    @nout19726 ай бұрын

    Handel aristocratic? Then you probably only heard his Coronation Anthems or similar stiff and pompous choral music like that? When people think about Handel it is always the awful posh chorus of his Messiah: "Hallelujah" What about his Italian operas and his oratorio? I find most of Handel's music more accessible, emotional and humane than Bach's.

  • @Emiliasooo
    @Emiliasooo6 ай бұрын

    Ravel si super underrated; he belongs to the top next to Boulanger. Only the classical nerds know him well. You name Ravel to a casual listener and he's going to say: "Oh yeah. The guy who made the bolero". I listened to every single piece by Ravel, and he is one of the greatest of all time.

  • @akadetrorjk
    @akadetrorjk6 ай бұрын

    Very true

  • @fiddeou
    @fiddeou6 ай бұрын

    One underrated composer in my opinion is Mel Bonis

  • @sensorycircuits1338
    @sensorycircuits13386 ай бұрын

    No Frank Zappa?

  • @MegaBubble
    @MegaBubble6 ай бұрын

    not a classical composer

  • @late8641
    @late86416 ай бұрын

    Being popular doesn't mean you're automatically overrated. None of the composers in the overrated category are overrated. Vivaldi is an overrated composer, not Bach.

  • @nmnmnm9509
    @nmnmnm95096 ай бұрын

    Sorabji, Rodrigo, Respighi, Brian, Scriabin and...are Underrated Stravinsky, Bruckner, Shostacovich .,... can't be overrated or underrated .

  • @ferguszade5594
    @ferguszade55946 ай бұрын

    How silly and totally pointless. No Brahms, Schubert, Bruckner, Neilsen to name but a few.

  • @Oryctolagus342
    @Oryctolagus3426 ай бұрын

    Completely vacuous discussion. These two should be analyzing music whose depth is more commensurate with their level of insight.

  • @ferguszade5594
    @ferguszade55946 ай бұрын

    Nursery rhymes perhpas?

  • @peterbauer9920
    @peterbauer99206 ай бұрын

    cmon, you don’t have to put all the great legendary composers low just because there popular does not mean there overrated in those times and mostly really all times, it’s because there great! Don’t have a false sophistication.

  • @bloodyplebs
    @bloodyplebs6 ай бұрын

    The first theme of Tchaikovsky’s violin concerto does come back? You are thinking of his first piano concerto. Joke honestly

  • @dantehowlstice3052
    @dantehowlstice30526 ай бұрын

    Really, no Vivaldi on the list? He only brought the concerto format into being.

  • @kostaVHjovanovic
    @kostaVHjovanovic6 ай бұрын

    i feel Tchaikovsky should be in underrated for musicians and overrated for general audience

  • @louislagueux7323
    @louislagueux73236 ай бұрын

    NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T SKIP STRAUSS LIKE THAT ; (

  • @ormpi1
    @ormpi16 ай бұрын

    Strauss is only for new years

  • @louislagueux7323
    @louislagueux73236 ай бұрын

    How dare you mix up Johann Strauss (the turd) to Richard Strauss (the post-romantic genius) !!!!!!@@ormpi1

  • @ancientanecdotesyt
    @ancientanecdotesyt6 ай бұрын

    debussy is overated

  • @christopherfleming7505
    @christopherfleming75056 ай бұрын

    Mozart is overrated. I love many of his pieces, but let's be honest, 90% of his slow movements are downright boring. I prefer Mendelssohn over Mozart any day.