affli is not so complicated, but it takes sometimes. MR now is also fine, the more dots u have the more dmg it makes
@attinger11712 сағат бұрын
Enhancement still needs work. - Ascendance needs to be separated from DRE and given the same choice nodes as Resto and Ele. - Ascendance needs a new visual. I can’t do another expansion with the Cata graphic. - Stormstrike needs to deal Stormstrike damage. Crazy I know. This would actually let storm builds scale with mastery. - Surging Totem should deal Flamestrike damage. This would let the totem scale with mastery and let the elementalist build work better.
@brianshrimp582416 сағат бұрын
Is Feral better then Balance?
@ZucoWoW14 сағат бұрын
@@brianshrimp5824 I like it a lot better. Numbers-wise, I'd say yes, but it really depends on how good each player is as Boomie or Feral
@brianshrimp582413 сағат бұрын
@@ZucoWoW Thank you for your expertise hard time deciding always wanted to play both.
@scoso131316 сағат бұрын
Very interesting. Always enjoyed the gameplay of enh, surv and ww throughout each xpac, playing very casually for the last few. Good to see them get some love in the class design.
@sunquanta16 сағат бұрын
Question, where did you get that animated desktop wallpaper of Hallowfall? Thanks for your content, I am finding it useful all the time.
@ZucoWoW7 сағат бұрын
Wallpaper Engine on Steam. It has it under "Hallowfall" i think, or WoW wallpapers.
@Aikicyoaz17 сағат бұрын
Oh great now I have to level my druid...
@attinger11717 сағат бұрын
100% agree about outlaw rogue. I LOVED outlaw in legion and BfA too. Shadowlands was okay. I stopped playing it in DF because they went full stealth mechanics for some reason. Outlaw has more stealth reliant gameplay than sub now which is backwards. Outlaw has always been the brawler hack and slash rogue spec even going back to vanilla. I want stealth less outlaw back! Removing shadow dance was a good move imo. Now we need to remove vanish as a dps cooldown I hate that and always have.
@user-tg6zj6kk8n17 сағат бұрын
Zuco and Guys - leveling New Alt: Timerunning or Pre-Patch (starting tomorrow)?
@sygmarvexarion7891Күн бұрын
Enh shaman fun to play? The spec has a million buttons.
@harribarri1141Күн бұрын
For balance druid. The damage might be good but the rework was terrible still has lots of issues.
@mantyxxxКүн бұрын
Unholy is like Demo - for people that like minions/zoo its awesome spec. For other Frost will be more engaging most probably. Also I wonder if Unholy San'layn might be most tanky melee in the pack now.
@parlangua89Күн бұрын
Aff-all the issues you mentioned you don't have to take those talents. Soul Shards aren't a issue. Limited knowledge of how to play aff you will be swimming in SSs. Right now its just buggy and the nerfs didn't change much. If its not buggy and the interaction is working as intended then i agree in aoe itll be less than desirable. Demo- is really fun. not without flaws but its really fun. far as dmg AFF and DEMO are the 2 Dest is right behind but all 3 are very close now with the nerfs to wither. BM-Hunter needs to be deleted and needs mother Teresa, while getting a loan from Jesus.
@parlangua89Күн бұрын
completely disagree with Sub and Assin takes. im not saying its rainbows and butterflies and that has alot to do with the hero talents. but i have really enjoyed it. Frost Dks as far as melee goes i think its the most fun its been in years and feels like the best melee on beta.
@arsalanabbasi9323Күн бұрын
Elemental shaman is perfect
@jjlbridge7877Күн бұрын
How would this rotation change for single target? Thanks.
@jjlbridge7877Күн бұрын
How would this rotation change for single target? Thanks.
@Blaylock2Күн бұрын
Best hat ever !
@darkwa456Күн бұрын
I keep waiting for some kind of rogue love but it really looks like there just leaving it which is depressing
@Kirbz42Күн бұрын
this is why you play a paladin lol
@renebaan7430Күн бұрын
ain't no way he said arms is fun...
@CybreSmeeКүн бұрын
Awesome, thanks Z
@ThorkouКүн бұрын
divine hammers isn't new to pally its in the talent tree in dragonflight, I'm looking at it as of 7/21. its a choice node between consecrated blade and divine hammer. It currently last for 12 seconds and has a 20 second cd which is better imo than what were getting in tww. if they wanted to rework it then they should've made it to were its a 30 sec cd so it lines up with wake of ashes and spending holy power increases it damage while keeping the 12 sec duration and the reduced damage beyond 8 targets. The tww within version is cluncky and makes pressing wake and the new hero talent a bad thing which is bad design. I'll be honest the Rider talent is boring to me I much prefer deathbringer, It is just visually cooler and gameplay wise much more satisfying when cleaving enemies with giant ethereal scythes.
@galrubin7424Күн бұрын
Ret feels best to play? Are you insane?
@syclonepanda1047Күн бұрын
I still think tempest needs to benefit from stormkeeper and get another like 50% damage boost for Ele. Thunderstrike ward needs to either get a 3x damage increase, a 2x damage increase and maelstrom generation, or be removed from the game lol. It's a really cool idea but is literally unnoticeable.
@SilentKMEКүн бұрын
What a thoroughly useless list. "Every ranged is amazing to play...except BM hunter and Aug voker cuz I'm biased bye" hahahahah trash trash trash
@manason2776Күн бұрын
damn this video was very helpful lmao thanks dude
@turtleneckКүн бұрын
Whoever is in charge of enhance shaman needs to be taken off Shamans and someone else handle the spec
@MostlyFish21Күн бұрын
I'm curious to know if Evoker is now the least played class under Monk. They look horrendous and goofy
@WellshemКүн бұрын
Just like monk, they look goofy but the gameplay are fire 😂
@yep330Күн бұрын
Since they removed SD crackshot is completely gutted now. It's such a shame because it was so fun.
@mongoosemcmongoose2786Күн бұрын
Zuc Where is the “scarf adjustment” timestamp this time??
@ZucoWoWКүн бұрын
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 Haha, didn't have anyone in chat make the adjustment this time!
@mongoosemcmongoose2786Күн бұрын
@@ZucoWoW sorely missed. haha
@MichaelkayslayКүн бұрын
I just want to stand back and cast, i dont want to dps
@kaleoandros25Күн бұрын
Now as a feral main since legion let me tell the bad side of a feral pve, nobody wants feral in keys or raid pugs, or get in a guild that you don't have friends, boomie will always be better, and competitve as wow is today.....
@stefanstanculescu1133Күн бұрын
every shadow priest except me:)) i like dark ascention more than void eruption. i like having a 1 min cd instead of a 2 min cd
@shiestystreamerКүн бұрын
wait mm hunter is fun again???
@ShinespriteКүн бұрын
First of all, I like your content and information on certain spec reworks/hero talents. However I feel like you keep saying that it is mostly not about the numbers and with the melee tier list you said it was "a small factor" and you haven't put it as a criteria, yet you keep mentioning the numbers as if it is a big factor for the given placement. Also I am a shaman main myself but I get the feeling that this list is pretty biased towards shaman, and that they would be put on top no matter the outcome, or how the rework went. You placed enhance on top and elemental in the second spot, and I might get the feeling that restoration shaman will be on top aswell. :D
@ZucoWoWКүн бұрын
@@Shinesprite I certainly do enjoy Shaman, but my placement is pretty honest here... The Stormbringer tree has been something I've been waiting for for years. The Tempest procs + Lightning Rod look and sound amazing. The Shaman class tree got reworked and is more functional now than ever before. And yes, damage is a factor. It always is. If a spec does 0 damage, then it will be much less fun to play. It's just not something I want to emphasize as much in this video. :)
@RoflcorsoКүн бұрын
The thing with BM Hunter is, it has to be a simple class. In my opinion you need atleast one class that everyone can play and that is Hunter. You're a range class but with the aspect of a melee, because you can do 99% of your spells while moving. Hunter and especially BM Hunter is the first class I suggest to newer players. The rotation is super simple and you don't have to think much about it. Like I said, you need this simple class design on hunter so everyone can play it. And if you play Hunter as a good player on a higher level, you'll outshine a lot of classes because of his simplicity. I play high keys and done mythic raiding in DF and I made a hunter to 70, because some friends where twinking and I joined them. At 70 I was shocked with how little effort this fresh level 70 hunter did more damage then my much better geared twinks.
@zerte1995Күн бұрын
Give us back enh physical with windfury/stormstrike
@jcmt8178Күн бұрын
Give rogues a support spec already, make sub or outlaw support like aug
@skiddop3428Күн бұрын
Dude has his text open with some key points for ranking specs. -Druid good, someone did lotsa dam.
@zerte1995Күн бұрын
I dont like elementalist enh shaman Thanks you very much to spotlight physical enh shaman. Its way better than like DF with the fking elem melee
@spacepope20k2 күн бұрын
spriest has a weird issue rn where you have to hold mind blast and not spend it on CD as you go into your burst windows, otherwise you have no charges of it. if going into your form gave you a charge of mind blast, spriest would be bing chilling.
@SuperGizmo19852 күн бұрын
Tested Frostfire Fire Mage and i love it. Back to Mage since Cata <3
@madhudson12 күн бұрын
Boomkin needs an overhaul. Needs some innovation instead of slight tweaks
@balaknik932 күн бұрын
Augmentation is very useful spec. But boy... It feels so boring comparing to Devastation
@YunaxEU2 күн бұрын
Do not be baited by people saying boomkin is ‘ok’… it’s awful.
@SonOfTheImam2 күн бұрын
I was waiting for this video ❤💪🏼!
@DavidCaddock2 күн бұрын
Delete Aug
@Ermji2 күн бұрын
I like Augmentation Evoker as a spec and what role it brings to the party and its kinda fun. What I really don't like is that because Augmentation exists it will always overshadow Devastation Evoker. How good and fun Devastation can be it will not be brought to a m+ dungeon over a Augmentation evoker.
@EvilBigMad2 күн бұрын
support spec meta is really nice in M+, adding support was a great idea. But yep not with only one spec in the game, we need more supports. Maybe a pal spec ? a sham spec ? druid ? warrior why not ? But yeah either you commit to the idea of support or you do'nt add it in the first place
@sinnis4993Күн бұрын
@@EvilBigMad it is so good, we have the same meta for 3 seasons and 2 specs from 1 class will always be unplayable. adding aug was the worst decision in WoWs history. even shadowlands looks like gold compared to aug.
@EvilBigMadКүн бұрын
@@sinnis4993 I agree my guy read my comment. I said I like 1 heal 1 tank 1 sup 2 dps comp. I think it's a good idea IN THEORY. I do agree it sucks if there is only one sup spec in the game. I'd love 3-4 more support spec, but knowing we probably won't I do think it's better to rework aug as a pure dps.
@lafunk197816 сағат бұрын
@@EvilBigMad maybe it was a test to see if enough people enjoyed it and played it that they will add more support specs in the future.
@ondrejkokes12002 күн бұрын
Okay hear me out about the shadow priest. Voidweaver is cool. But Archon is let down. They should have made it so you are like a giant ball of energy holy or void depending on your spec and if you are a healer you would get a healing apparitions that would travel to your targets and heal them. And for shadow priest you would get like a void blast channel aoe laser + your apparitions would explode for some damage and refresh your dots. Bam, fixed, let's go"
@morvohКүн бұрын
Healing apparitions sounds amazing, it would look so cool
@kalejarmar31872 күн бұрын
And cobra shots was put into oblivion in the BM tree ... would be cool for a rework, like casting ten cobra shots summon a giant ass cobra that would squeeze and constrictor ennemies
@ZucoWoW2 күн бұрын
@@kalejarmar3187 Yeah, idk it just needs more mechanics than "maintain Barbed Shot stacks for your minions".
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affli is not so complicated, but it takes sometimes. MR now is also fine, the more dots u have the more dmg it makes
Enhancement still needs work. - Ascendance needs to be separated from DRE and given the same choice nodes as Resto and Ele. - Ascendance needs a new visual. I can’t do another expansion with the Cata graphic. - Stormstrike needs to deal Stormstrike damage. Crazy I know. This would actually let storm builds scale with mastery. - Surging Totem should deal Flamestrike damage. This would let the totem scale with mastery and let the elementalist build work better.
Is Feral better then Balance?
@@brianshrimp5824 I like it a lot better. Numbers-wise, I'd say yes, but it really depends on how good each player is as Boomie or Feral
@@ZucoWoW Thank you for your expertise hard time deciding always wanted to play both.
Very interesting. Always enjoyed the gameplay of enh, surv and ww throughout each xpac, playing very casually for the last few. Good to see them get some love in the class design.
Question, where did you get that animated desktop wallpaper of Hallowfall? Thanks for your content, I am finding it useful all the time.
Wallpaper Engine on Steam. It has it under "Hallowfall" i think, or WoW wallpapers.
Oh great now I have to level my druid...
100% agree about outlaw rogue. I LOVED outlaw in legion and BfA too. Shadowlands was okay. I stopped playing it in DF because they went full stealth mechanics for some reason. Outlaw has more stealth reliant gameplay than sub now which is backwards. Outlaw has always been the brawler hack and slash rogue spec even going back to vanilla. I want stealth less outlaw back! Removing shadow dance was a good move imo. Now we need to remove vanish as a dps cooldown I hate that and always have.
Zuco and Guys - leveling New Alt: Timerunning or Pre-Patch (starting tomorrow)?
Enh shaman fun to play? The spec has a million buttons.
For balance druid. The damage might be good but the rework was terrible still has lots of issues.
Unholy is like Demo - for people that like minions/zoo its awesome spec. For other Frost will be more engaging most probably. Also I wonder if Unholy San'layn might be most tanky melee in the pack now.
Aff-all the issues you mentioned you don't have to take those talents. Soul Shards aren't a issue. Limited knowledge of how to play aff you will be swimming in SSs. Right now its just buggy and the nerfs didn't change much. If its not buggy and the interaction is working as intended then i agree in aoe itll be less than desirable. Demo- is really fun. not without flaws but its really fun. far as dmg AFF and DEMO are the 2 Dest is right behind but all 3 are very close now with the nerfs to wither. BM-Hunter needs to be deleted and needs mother Teresa, while getting a loan from Jesus.
completely disagree with Sub and Assin takes. im not saying its rainbows and butterflies and that has alot to do with the hero talents. but i have really enjoyed it. Frost Dks as far as melee goes i think its the most fun its been in years and feels like the best melee on beta.
Elemental shaman is perfect
How would this rotation change for single target? Thanks.
How would this rotation change for single target? Thanks.
Best hat ever !
I keep waiting for some kind of rogue love but it really looks like there just leaving it which is depressing
this is why you play a paladin lol
ain't no way he said arms is fun...
Awesome, thanks Z
divine hammers isn't new to pally its in the talent tree in dragonflight, I'm looking at it as of 7/21. its a choice node between consecrated blade and divine hammer. It currently last for 12 seconds and has a 20 second cd which is better imo than what were getting in tww. if they wanted to rework it then they should've made it to were its a 30 sec cd so it lines up with wake of ashes and spending holy power increases it damage while keeping the 12 sec duration and the reduced damage beyond 8 targets. The tww within version is cluncky and makes pressing wake and the new hero talent a bad thing which is bad design. I'll be honest the Rider talent is boring to me I much prefer deathbringer, It is just visually cooler and gameplay wise much more satisfying when cleaving enemies with giant ethereal scythes.
Ret feels best to play? Are you insane?
I still think tempest needs to benefit from stormkeeper and get another like 50% damage boost for Ele. Thunderstrike ward needs to either get a 3x damage increase, a 2x damage increase and maelstrom generation, or be removed from the game lol. It's a really cool idea but is literally unnoticeable.
What a thoroughly useless list. "Every ranged is amazing to play...except BM hunter and Aug voker cuz I'm biased bye" hahahahah trash trash trash
damn this video was very helpful lmao thanks dude
Whoever is in charge of enhance shaman needs to be taken off Shamans and someone else handle the spec
I'm curious to know if Evoker is now the least played class under Monk. They look horrendous and goofy
Just like monk, they look goofy but the gameplay are fire 😂
Since they removed SD crackshot is completely gutted now. It's such a shame because it was so fun.
Zuc Where is the “scarf adjustment” timestamp this time??
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 Haha, didn't have anyone in chat make the adjustment this time!
@@ZucoWoW sorely missed. haha
I just want to stand back and cast, i dont want to dps
Now as a feral main since legion let me tell the bad side of a feral pve, nobody wants feral in keys or raid pugs, or get in a guild that you don't have friends, boomie will always be better, and competitve as wow is today.....
every shadow priest except me:)) i like dark ascention more than void eruption. i like having a 1 min cd instead of a 2 min cd
wait mm hunter is fun again???
First of all, I like your content and information on certain spec reworks/hero talents. However I feel like you keep saying that it is mostly not about the numbers and with the melee tier list you said it was "a small factor" and you haven't put it as a criteria, yet you keep mentioning the numbers as if it is a big factor for the given placement. Also I am a shaman main myself but I get the feeling that this list is pretty biased towards shaman, and that they would be put on top no matter the outcome, or how the rework went. You placed enhance on top and elemental in the second spot, and I might get the feeling that restoration shaman will be on top aswell. :D
@@Shinesprite I certainly do enjoy Shaman, but my placement is pretty honest here... The Stormbringer tree has been something I've been waiting for for years. The Tempest procs + Lightning Rod look and sound amazing. The Shaman class tree got reworked and is more functional now than ever before. And yes, damage is a factor. It always is. If a spec does 0 damage, then it will be much less fun to play. It's just not something I want to emphasize as much in this video. :)
The thing with BM Hunter is, it has to be a simple class. In my opinion you need atleast one class that everyone can play and that is Hunter. You're a range class but with the aspect of a melee, because you can do 99% of your spells while moving. Hunter and especially BM Hunter is the first class I suggest to newer players. The rotation is super simple and you don't have to think much about it. Like I said, you need this simple class design on hunter so everyone can play it. And if you play Hunter as a good player on a higher level, you'll outshine a lot of classes because of his simplicity. I play high keys and done mythic raiding in DF and I made a hunter to 70, because some friends where twinking and I joined them. At 70 I was shocked with how little effort this fresh level 70 hunter did more damage then my much better geared twinks.
Give us back enh physical with windfury/stormstrike
Give rogues a support spec already, make sub or outlaw support like aug
Dude has his text open with some key points for ranking specs. -Druid good, someone did lotsa dam.
I dont like elementalist enh shaman Thanks you very much to spotlight physical enh shaman. Its way better than like DF with the fking elem melee
spriest has a weird issue rn where you have to hold mind blast and not spend it on CD as you go into your burst windows, otherwise you have no charges of it. if going into your form gave you a charge of mind blast, spriest would be bing chilling.
Tested Frostfire Fire Mage and i love it. Back to Mage since Cata <3
Boomkin needs an overhaul. Needs some innovation instead of slight tweaks
Augmentation is very useful spec. But boy... It feels so boring comparing to Devastation
Do not be baited by people saying boomkin is ‘ok’… it’s awful.
I was waiting for this video ❤💪🏼!
Delete Aug
I like Augmentation Evoker as a spec and what role it brings to the party and its kinda fun. What I really don't like is that because Augmentation exists it will always overshadow Devastation Evoker. How good and fun Devastation can be it will not be brought to a m+ dungeon over a Augmentation evoker.
support spec meta is really nice in M+, adding support was a great idea. But yep not with only one spec in the game, we need more supports. Maybe a pal spec ? a sham spec ? druid ? warrior why not ? But yeah either you commit to the idea of support or you do'nt add it in the first place
@@EvilBigMad it is so good, we have the same meta for 3 seasons and 2 specs from 1 class will always be unplayable. adding aug was the worst decision in WoWs history. even shadowlands looks like gold compared to aug.
@@sinnis4993 I agree my guy read my comment. I said I like 1 heal 1 tank 1 sup 2 dps comp. I think it's a good idea IN THEORY. I do agree it sucks if there is only one sup spec in the game. I'd love 3-4 more support spec, but knowing we probably won't I do think it's better to rework aug as a pure dps.
@@EvilBigMad maybe it was a test to see if enough people enjoyed it and played it that they will add more support specs in the future.
Okay hear me out about the shadow priest. Voidweaver is cool. But Archon is let down. They should have made it so you are like a giant ball of energy holy or void depending on your spec and if you are a healer you would get a healing apparitions that would travel to your targets and heal them. And for shadow priest you would get like a void blast channel aoe laser + your apparitions would explode for some damage and refresh your dots. Bam, fixed, let's go"
Healing apparitions sounds amazing, it would look so cool
And cobra shots was put into oblivion in the BM tree ... would be cool for a rework, like casting ten cobra shots summon a giant ass cobra that would squeeze and constrictor ennemies
@@kalejarmar3187 Yeah, idk it just needs more mechanics than "maintain Barbed Shot stacks for your minions".