I thought, Aqua didn't reciprocate Kana's feelings, when in Aqua's dream, Gorou appeared in his dream and gave Aqua a choice, he had to choose between revenge or dating her?...After the chapter finished, Aqua told Hikaru Kamiki that "I will not love anyone, if they love me then it's up to them" which means Aqua prefers revenge than dating her?? 🤔
@worminaround11 сағат бұрын
Dammit Ai, you inflicted this to yourself 😭😭😭😭. After this chapter, I damm sure know the fcking Fanfic Community would be realising tons of AUs if Ai didn't fcking rejected him and lived a happy life 😭. Honestly, we fcking need Ai's perspective. My woman really out here rejecting arguably the hottest guy in the series. IMO Ai should've just stepped down being an Idol, and just lived with Hikaru. With this Gorou wouldn't have died 💀 and Aqua and Ruby would live as normal people (if you know what I mean), dammit Ai!!!! I need her side fcking badly 😠
@solbutton161116 сағат бұрын
Honestly….. I’m pissed. I’ve been a fan of anime for almost 20 years now and I usually don’t care about incest in anime and manga because I would simply just avoid it if I knew that was gonna be in there. This was the first anime I had seen after years of not watching anime and the show really brought me back into the anime world and out of my depression. I was happy again (as dramatic as that sounds) and I was even recommending this show to my loved ones because I thought it was amazing…. Should have seen the red flag in the beginning tbh with how the ML was wishing to be reborn as his idol’s kid….. Kind of a weird thing to ask for ngl. How come you can’t just ask to be reborn as your idol’s lover. That would be less creepy in my opinion considering how much he fawned over her in the beginning. I accidentally spoiled the story for myself as I was anticipating the next season and came across a video like this and now I’m crushed. Call me whatever, but this feels personal now. My favorite show happens to be another gross incest anime (it’s kind of funny now that I think about it…… I’m still grossed out though)…. The theme song still hits though
@nightmarecats239studio918 сағат бұрын
She couldn’t afford to keep lying to him as he was good person, she was accepting his feelings and emotions he forced on her as that how Ai is she accepts people emotions and she was giving him hard push so he would move forward, at point time. She didn’t want him not only ruin his career but hers as well. She was idol wanted to complete her ambitious after all. She loved him and she couldn’t bring herself to lie anymore. Just like she did the children she didn’t want say lies of false love. She want to them she loved a lot. Holding back feeling and emotions as ruby found act as Ai holding back all her emotion make her a villain. Even if was people she loved or care for. Ai was person couldn’t force to love but always hide her emotion for sake of others since childhood. Want understand Ai, she want her love to understand her and forgive her why did what she did. Letting her known she was a human, a teenage girl, a message to the people she knew. Ai hoshino was a living being trying live her through struggles and regrets through her lies.
@ishra_san18 сағат бұрын
Akane is a Queen..👑💙
@arthurblizzardxd298519 сағат бұрын
At least hikaru got a real woman unlike that guy who got the kenjussy treatment
@Jayd_mixi20 сағат бұрын
Holy mother of ai this seasons va cast is more stacked than a jenga tower its actually scary
@Princesses.Mar12Күн бұрын
Idc about what happened to bro he killed so that’s literally blasphemy
@ChimeraLotietheBunnyКүн бұрын
This hits so hard now that it’s revealed how their relationship went and I am glad to be patient until this came what truly cause these two not to last long
@kennethpsavanh7212Күн бұрын
The whole point of the show is the Japanese entertainment industry in general. How truly evil it is. What young people have to do to succeed and what is done to them . Hikaru was disturbed after the funeral of his tormenters . He thought ai understood him bc she was a teenage idol just like him. She didn't know what love was so she just lied and lied and it fooled hikaru badly. And once his only Allie left him like everyone else in his life did . He went crazy and obsessed with hurting her as much as she hurt him.. I think Ai was his first love. That first love always hurts more then the rest bc it's your first time experience every emotion. Via the good and the bad. If only hikaru got actual help maybe he could have changed but it was too late for him. Ai did not deserve to die..she was a kid herself. She has her own career to think about. Especially after finding out she was pregnant she couldn't be w hikaru. He was spirialing down the rabbit hole more and more and I know she saw and heard all of it.. so she left.. like any person would.. what sucks is that ai gave hikaru all the locations and phone numbers to find her every time she tried talking to hikaru. Gorou died bc of it as well.. I'm happy that gorou and his patient found each other. She made him a fan of Ai . Aqua needs to stop hikaru..bc nobody else can. Look how long he's been free to fuck people over. Instead of seeing hikaru as his father. He needs to remember his gorou and this guy killed Ai ans got himself killed as well..
@Shizumiya-wk6psКүн бұрын
Let us leave this bad thoughts....kana gonna became aqua idol and ...and they will get a happpy ending...🙂
@JuviaJubiaChanКүн бұрын
Akane: My love for him it's like a mother to her child. She's just like Ai after all 🤡 WHAT?! She is Aqua's adoptive mother now 😂 Akane as mother-in-law, gives her blessing to Kana
@A-nl1pbКүн бұрын
I mean... he's not actually their father though, only the father of their physical bodies. Same for Ai. Their potential children were never alive from the start which is why the isekai could happen. I don't get why that part is being ignored.
@StarKaiser2Күн бұрын
Wow this brings me back to her last words and how she felt maybe referring to her break up with Hikaru like she lide and used him
@IsShePrettyOnTheInside2 күн бұрын
Oshi no ko plot finally developing 🔥
@IsShePrettyOnTheInside2 күн бұрын
A family full of negatives fr 😂
@SizzlingSocks2 күн бұрын
UGHHH THIS HURTS MY HEART SM THEY BOTH DESERVED BETTER (well idk about Hikaru)
@datumzinememories2 күн бұрын
If i was pregnant she likely had to create a large amount of distance even if they were careful in an absence like hers someone it may could get 1 +2 ... the phone she did explain about their situation. Though I still dont grasp about the revenge bit. I kinda feel like maybe from the two get killed maybe the young son told AI something that clicked in her head or maybe there were dead or injured people who were close to her. Because something isn't adding up.
@tangerineYT2 күн бұрын
>Sees his own two kids kiss on screen "Hmm... Too passionate" LMAOOO
@thePontiacBandit2 күн бұрын
Great summary. Good work. I don't think I'll watch this like i did with with the original Naruto. But it seems like a cool be change to the Narutoverse. Sucks to see old characters we loved getting dumped it nerfed but i assume the writers know what they're doing. Was Kishimoto involved in this at all? It doesn't seem like something he'd write. It doesn't have the same site build and flow as some of his old work.
@anishpokharkar84622 күн бұрын
Lowkey starting to feel bad for hikaru (highkey)
@jax65012 күн бұрын
Im starting to think Ai either wanted Hikaru to unalive her or knew that was about to happen. I mean why make those dvds and give them to the director around the same time she gave her address to Hikaru. Seems suspicious. I'm wondering if she was tired of not being sure if she really loved her children and possi bly Hikari. I think she knew that only in almost dying would she understand or realize her true feelings towards Aqua, Ruby, & Hikaru.
@ShenQ2 күн бұрын
The crazy thing is, back when Ai had called him again after a long time after she heard the conversation of her children talking about their father. She had said to Hikaru that this isn’t about me wanting to get back together with you. Meaning that Hikaru in those few seconds had regained that hope when she called after a long time. But then i guess after that, he went with the plan and killed her off.
@ZephyrRetro2 күн бұрын
Yeah, that could’ve been the last straw
@JuviaJubiaChan2 күн бұрын
Akane always taking care of ruby 😂 lol. She should be a detective
@Neo100-qg6ow2 күн бұрын
Hikaru is the definition of a tragic figure who succumbed to the effects of what society did to him and became a part of it.
@tfolv2 күн бұрын
I'm wondering now if Hikaru got Gorou killed out of jelousy, for seeing the doctor being too close to Ai.
@samiyaahmed73952 күн бұрын
Wait was Gorou's death even preplanned though,it always seemed like a spur of the moment decision because Gorou pressed Ryosuke too much and they were both afraid he'd tell on them so they killed him to erase evidence
@kennethpsavanh72122 күн бұрын
@@samiyaahmed7395it was preplanned . Remember they said hikaru told the stalker that gorou aka the doctor was the baby daddy. .
@samiyaahmed7395Күн бұрын
@@kennethpsavanh7212Oh that makes sense
@JTMax2 күн бұрын
Now I feel REALY bad for Hikaru. All he wanted was to find love. REAL love. But when he did, it was broken. Jeez, it's no wonder Hikaru became what he is today. He thought Ai was just another grown woman who took advantage of him.
@seantobin38422 күн бұрын
Hikaru as a child needs needs so many hugs, but it may cause more pain for him. While he's an adult he needs to be thrown in a psycheatric prison so we can attempt to understand this🎭, but if he trys somthing else...😵😈🔊🖋️🗡️🏹⛏️⚒️⚔️🔫
@merimkastrat58462 күн бұрын
Hikaru’s life was messed up. He was raped as a kid. He found true love, which was Ai (so he believed). She broke up with him cuz reasons. He was pointed out by someone that the only ones that cares for them is those people (both the husband and wife (wife being the rapist as well)). Hikaru feels extremely conflicted because he doesnt know what to feel, especially when he was the reason for killing them. He decide to kill other celebrities, especially Ai. He’s still a murderer but with a painful past, Ai was the one to broke it off while also being pregnant. Ai is pretty much an airhead, Hikaru is just confused (but still a murderer nonetheless which doesn’t justify his actions).
@asphealkindofguy96742 күн бұрын
I feel like Kana will get in a coma becouse of hikaru. But survive. It will seem like she will die, making Aqua depressed again. And then Kana will wake up again near the end.
@ik.-.2 күн бұрын
Hikaru officially my fav Oshi no ko char….
@Harumi272822 күн бұрын
Hikaru: Are you winning son?
@laelhochberg94972 күн бұрын
Ever since I saw did research on Hikaru and what he went through, I compared him to the character of Kotoko Utsugi from the video game Ultra Despair Girl DRAE. Content warning btw since I'm going to compare Hikaru to Kotoko and the real-life Björn Andrésen and what they went through. Both Hikaru and Kotoko were actors at a young age who were exploited by the adults around them simply for their physical appearances. We don't know who Hikaru's parents were, but from what he went through, it seems like they simply used him as a means to an end. Kotoko's parents on the other hand, we do get information on them. Her father was a dentist who was having an affair with his assistant and planned on selling his own daughter on the black market by the time she reached puberty. Her mother, meanwhile, vicariously lived through Kotoko to become an actress, going to extremes such as prostituting herself and her own daughter to get acting deals. This left Kotoko mentally scarred, going into fits of mental episodes whenever someone says “Gentle”. After the death of Airi and her husband, Hikaru depended on Ai Hoshino, who was his Senpai at the time, for emotional support, and the two eventually fell in love. But whether to avoid burdening him with her pregnancy or something else, she dumped him. Kotoko, and four other kids who were her classmates and friends, were approached by Junko Enoshima, the main antagonist of the Danganronpa Universe. Junko helped faked the kids' disappearances, and gave them a safe place to stay. She gave Kotoko, Masaru, Jataro, Nagisa and Monaca the proper love and affection they longed for. But since she was a manipulative girl with a Despair Fetish, she taught the kids how to bring despair upon others. When she died, Kotoko and her friends, with Monaca's encouragement, formed the Warriors Of Hope. They eventually murdered their own parents, with Kotoko's parents being among them. Hikaru, due to Ai dumping him, went after female celebrities who were at the near height of their success, and had them killed by proxy in order to feel better about what happened to him. Kotoko, aside from collecting things she considers adorable, would find cute teenage girls to torment as revenge for what the former went through. The only difference between Hikaru and Kotoko is that while there's no high road for the former, the latter managed to redeem herself thanks to the kindness of Komaru Naegi, who is the younger of the Danganronpa Universe's protagonist Makoto Naegi, and Komaru's friend Toko Fukawa, who is Makoto's classmate. As for the comparison between Hikaru and Björn, it's similar but different. I first learned about him when I came across a movie called “Death In Venice” from 1971. At first, I thought the movie was a Giallo movie due to the title, but I was wrong when I found out it was a drama based on a novella. It was when my mother told me about Björn's life and what he went through. Both Hikaru and Björn were exploited those around them simply for their looks. Björn was placed in the entertainment business by his own grandmother. He felt uncomfortable around the adults. It wasn't until somewhere in his later years where he told his story in an interview and what he went through. Aside from what happened, his appearance in Death In Venice became popular in Japan, with manga artists such as Keiko Takemiya taking inspiration from his character of Tadzio from the film. With all of that said, he's currently living a normal life in Stockholm.
@Miss_Idol2 күн бұрын
I think the only reason Ai broke up with Hikaru was because she found out she was pregnant and didn't want Ichigo and Myako to find out it was Hikaru who got her pregnant and if they kept hanging out they'd find out so she broke up with him
@Wertyber2 күн бұрын
this chapter is mid this is how aqua should've confronted hikari Aqua: "Excuse me, you Hikari?" Hikari: "...Do I know you?" Aqua: "Forgive me for startling you, sir. I have a message for you. My name is Aqua Hoshino - you knew my mother." Hikari: "Heh, I see... I remember your mother." Aqua: "I've come for you, Hikari." Hikari: "Heheh.. And you, boy, have sure as shit found me." Aqua: "...You killed my mother!" Hikari: "Your mother killed herself with the life she lived." Aqua: "You killed her! I saw you!" Hikari: "You keep saying that." Aqua: "You sent an obsessive fan of her to do your dirty work, then he stabbed her like a dog!" Hikari: "And I'll stab you like one too, you little piece of trash! Now get out of here before I kill you aswell!" Aqua: "I ain't going nowhere, old man." *Aqua and Hikari then proceeds to get in position. One fateful afternoon, Aqua draws his revolver and empties 6 rounds of bullets inside Hikari's chest, causing him to die a brutal death. Aqua stands there as Hikari's corpse gets cold, looking at the gun once owned by his mother, knowing that this lingering pain and loneliness will never cease to haunt him. Revenge is a fool's game.*
@sirishalakkakula89512 күн бұрын
That's so lame
@Wertyber2 күн бұрын
@@sirishalakkakula8951 I like you sir you have a kind face
@cameron35162 күн бұрын
i aint fucking reading allat 😭
@Wertyber2 күн бұрын
@@cameron3516 definitely not a reference to you know what
@cameron35162 күн бұрын
@@Wertyber when you mentioned revolver that's everything i needed to know
@shadowreaper260032 күн бұрын
Moral of the story don't get too involved with someone
@thoughtofus17272 күн бұрын
Let's make this chap fun ! When our hero said that ai don't know how to take care of herself .. mengo focused on a door with a safety mechanism 💀 ( Chapter 9 flashback...) When our hero said that it's fabricated, exaggerated, and the inconvient things were removed .... THIS IS EXACTLY THE LINE FROM OSHI NO KO CH 1 WITH MEI MEI AND THE OTHERS ... If you guys watched the anime ... The first line the narrator said was " this atory is a work of fiction" Given the chapter name ... I am waiting for this flashback for 2 years 🙂
@cier51582 күн бұрын
Huh…Aqua inherited more from his father than he thought
@user-gd6zt8uu1z2 күн бұрын
Oh... sekarang aku tahu, balas dendam yang mo dilakuin Aqua, "itu" bukan membunuh secara social(bukan hanya sekedar menghancurkan karir Kamiki) atau membunuhnya secara fisik Tapi membunuhnya secara emosi, perasaan dan rasa bersalah. Baik di film atau realitanya Ai tidak mengungkapkan perasaan yang sesungguhnya ke Kamiki, Kamiki terus berasumsi bahwa Ai selama ini tidak mecintai Kamiki, sedangkan Kamiki sendiri dari lubuk hatinya sangat mencintai Ai dan menerima semua balas dendam dari Aqua. Kebenaran dari "Kebohongan 15 Tahun" adalah perasaan Ai yang sangat mencintai Kamiki, setelah kebenarannya terungkap Kamiki akan diliputi rasa bersalah seumur hidupnya, dan membunuh Kamiki secara perasaan.
@ZephyrRetro2 күн бұрын
I’m really starting believe this to be the case now. Ai did love Hikaru and had her kids relay that truth to him through the movie 🥲
@cameron35162 күн бұрын
they should include the part where hikaru released his inner workings inside of ai
@PeruvianPotato2 күн бұрын
@@cameron3516 Bro just read one of those d0ujins at this point
@Wertyber2 күн бұрын
that's crazy
@ZephyrRetro2 күн бұрын
Wild ☠️
@kevinnham40662 күн бұрын
The sins of both mother and father that indirectly caused the heartbreaking tragedy for the twins!
@calvinacedera61192 күн бұрын
This is just from my overthinking, but in Oshi no Ko, Ai Hoshino (I think) didn't truly love Hikaru. I got the idea because of the song "Idol" by Yoasobi. The part of the lyrics, "I don't have any idea how I could love anyone. I don't seem to know what it signifies," suggest that Ai struggled with understanding genuine love. Reflecting on these lyrics, I realized that Ai might have been drawn to Hikaru not because of true love, but because of his loneliness. She may have felt a connection or sympathy towards him due to his isolation, mistaking these feelings for love. This interpretation adds a layer of complexity to Ai's character, highlighting her emotional struggles and the impact of her past experiences on her relationships. The entire song provides deeper insights into Ai's internal conflicts and her difficulty in grasping the concept of true love. Well that's just the info that I overthinked for a few hours after the chapter 152 was released from the time, but I guess it really is correct?
@ZephyrRetro2 күн бұрын
That’s a good theory! She may have realized she didn’t truly love Hikaru even after getting pregnant and didn’t want to hurt him with the truth
@j0su5102 күн бұрын
at least the ruby x aqua thing ended 😂👍
@LQY2 күн бұрын
I guess Ai find out Hikaru has dissociative identity disorder (DID) and Hikaru did not know about it.
@anushkamanushi33472 күн бұрын
Really he have DID
@krieger11522 күн бұрын
What if Ai knew she was pregnant and broke up with Hikaru to try to shield him from that burden?
@mirage63352 күн бұрын
She do that.
@mirage63352 күн бұрын
Damn Hikaru is like us today we focused to achieve success but damn, we got lose at the end, because our feelings wont be accepted. AI is like today girls, which search a peace place and stability, but carry on resposiblity in her hands. Follow path by adventure, and punishment by sociaty even she is accepted by them the reverse was for Hikaru ,which showcase us how cruel world it is. Oh boy i knew it Hikaru is dramatic character like AI but didnt expect it will be end up like that. Damn Author make great Dark manga ,perfectly inspired on the reality times.
@user-hj6nf6dp5e2 күн бұрын
Hikaru was shocked because he convinced himself that Ai didn’t love him, and his son was like, “You’re wrong dad, where are you going?” Hikaru’s great desire to sincerely hear “I love you”, which he heard in the recordings
@ZephyrRetro2 күн бұрын
Yep, I’m really leaning towards this theory now that Ai really did love him and the point of the 15 year lie was for her kids to pass on that message to him
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I thought, Aqua didn't reciprocate Kana's feelings, when in Aqua's dream, Gorou appeared in his dream and gave Aqua a choice, he had to choose between revenge or dating her?...After the chapter finished, Aqua told Hikaru Kamiki that "I will not love anyone, if they love me then it's up to them" which means Aqua prefers revenge than dating her?? 🤔
Dammit Ai, you inflicted this to yourself 😭😭😭😭. After this chapter, I damm sure know the fcking Fanfic Community would be realising tons of AUs if Ai didn't fcking rejected him and lived a happy life 😭. Honestly, we fcking need Ai's perspective. My woman really out here rejecting arguably the hottest guy in the series. IMO Ai should've just stepped down being an Idol, and just lived with Hikaru. With this Gorou wouldn't have died 💀 and Aqua and Ruby would live as normal people (if you know what I mean), dammit Ai!!!! I need her side fcking badly 😠
Honestly….. I’m pissed. I’ve been a fan of anime for almost 20 years now and I usually don’t care about incest in anime and manga because I would simply just avoid it if I knew that was gonna be in there. This was the first anime I had seen after years of not watching anime and the show really brought me back into the anime world and out of my depression. I was happy again (as dramatic as that sounds) and I was even recommending this show to my loved ones because I thought it was amazing…. Should have seen the red flag in the beginning tbh with how the ML was wishing to be reborn as his idol’s kid….. Kind of a weird thing to ask for ngl. How come you can’t just ask to be reborn as your idol’s lover. That would be less creepy in my opinion considering how much he fawned over her in the beginning. I accidentally spoiled the story for myself as I was anticipating the next season and came across a video like this and now I’m crushed. Call me whatever, but this feels personal now. My favorite show happens to be another gross incest anime (it’s kind of funny now that I think about it…… I’m still grossed out though)…. The theme song still hits though
She couldn’t afford to keep lying to him as he was good person, she was accepting his feelings and emotions he forced on her as that how Ai is she accepts people emotions and she was giving him hard push so he would move forward, at point time. She didn’t want him not only ruin his career but hers as well. She was idol wanted to complete her ambitious after all. She loved him and she couldn’t bring herself to lie anymore. Just like she did the children she didn’t want say lies of false love. She want to them she loved a lot. Holding back feeling and emotions as ruby found act as Ai holding back all her emotion make her a villain. Even if was people she loved or care for. Ai was person couldn’t force to love but always hide her emotion for sake of others since childhood. Want understand Ai, she want her love to understand her and forgive her why did what she did. Letting her known she was a human, a teenage girl, a message to the people she knew. Ai hoshino was a living being trying live her through struggles and regrets through her lies.
Akane is a Queen..👑💙
At least hikaru got a real woman unlike that guy who got the kenjussy treatment
Holy mother of ai this seasons va cast is more stacked than a jenga tower its actually scary
Idc about what happened to bro he killed so that’s literally blasphemy
This hits so hard now that it’s revealed how their relationship went and I am glad to be patient until this came what truly cause these two not to last long
The whole point of the show is the Japanese entertainment industry in general. How truly evil it is. What young people have to do to succeed and what is done to them . Hikaru was disturbed after the funeral of his tormenters . He thought ai understood him bc she was a teenage idol just like him. She didn't know what love was so she just lied and lied and it fooled hikaru badly. And once his only Allie left him like everyone else in his life did . He went crazy and obsessed with hurting her as much as she hurt him.. I think Ai was his first love. That first love always hurts more then the rest bc it's your first time experience every emotion. Via the good and the bad. If only hikaru got actual help maybe he could have changed but it was too late for him. Ai did not deserve to die..she was a kid herself. She has her own career to think about. Especially after finding out she was pregnant she couldn't be w hikaru. He was spirialing down the rabbit hole more and more and I know she saw and heard all of it.. so she left.. like any person would.. what sucks is that ai gave hikaru all the locations and phone numbers to find her every time she tried talking to hikaru. Gorou died bc of it as well.. I'm happy that gorou and his patient found each other. She made him a fan of Ai . Aqua needs to stop hikaru..bc nobody else can. Look how long he's been free to fuck people over. Instead of seeing hikaru as his father. He needs to remember his gorou and this guy killed Ai ans got himself killed as well..
Let us leave this bad thoughts....kana gonna became aqua idol and ...and they will get a happpy ending...🙂
Akane: My love for him it's like a mother to her child. She's just like Ai after all 🤡 WHAT?! She is Aqua's adoptive mother now 😂 Akane as mother-in-law, gives her blessing to Kana
I mean... he's not actually their father though, only the father of their physical bodies. Same for Ai. Their potential children were never alive from the start which is why the isekai could happen. I don't get why that part is being ignored.
Wow this brings me back to her last words and how she felt maybe referring to her break up with Hikaru like she lide and used him
Oshi no ko plot finally developing 🔥
A family full of negatives fr 😂
UGHHH THIS HURTS MY HEART SM THEY BOTH DESERVED BETTER (well idk about Hikaru)
If i was pregnant she likely had to create a large amount of distance even if they were careful in an absence like hers someone it may could get 1 +2 ... the phone she did explain about their situation. Though I still dont grasp about the revenge bit. I kinda feel like maybe from the two get killed maybe the young son told AI something that clicked in her head or maybe there were dead or injured people who were close to her. Because something isn't adding up.
>Sees his own two kids kiss on screen "Hmm... Too passionate" LMAOOO
Great summary. Good work. I don't think I'll watch this like i did with with the original Naruto. But it seems like a cool be change to the Narutoverse. Sucks to see old characters we loved getting dumped it nerfed but i assume the writers know what they're doing. Was Kishimoto involved in this at all? It doesn't seem like something he'd write. It doesn't have the same site build and flow as some of his old work.
Lowkey starting to feel bad for hikaru (highkey)
Im starting to think Ai either wanted Hikaru to unalive her or knew that was about to happen. I mean why make those dvds and give them to the director around the same time she gave her address to Hikaru. Seems suspicious. I'm wondering if she was tired of not being sure if she really loved her children and possi bly Hikari. I think she knew that only in almost dying would she understand or realize her true feelings towards Aqua, Ruby, & Hikaru.
The crazy thing is, back when Ai had called him again after a long time after she heard the conversation of her children talking about their father. She had said to Hikaru that this isn’t about me wanting to get back together with you. Meaning that Hikaru in those few seconds had regained that hope when she called after a long time. But then i guess after that, he went with the plan and killed her off.
Yeah, that could’ve been the last straw
Akane always taking care of ruby 😂 lol. She should be a detective
Hikaru is the definition of a tragic figure who succumbed to the effects of what society did to him and became a part of it.
I'm wondering now if Hikaru got Gorou killed out of jelousy, for seeing the doctor being too close to Ai.
Wait was Gorou's death even preplanned though,it always seemed like a spur of the moment decision because Gorou pressed Ryosuke too much and they were both afraid he'd tell on them so they killed him to erase evidence
@@samiyaahmed7395it was preplanned . Remember they said hikaru told the stalker that gorou aka the doctor was the baby daddy. .
@@kennethpsavanh7212Oh that makes sense
Now I feel REALY bad for Hikaru. All he wanted was to find love. REAL love. But when he did, it was broken. Jeez, it's no wonder Hikaru became what he is today. He thought Ai was just another grown woman who took advantage of him.
Hikaru as a child needs needs so many hugs, but it may cause more pain for him. While he's an adult he needs to be thrown in a psycheatric prison so we can attempt to understand this🎭, but if he trys somthing else...😵😈🔊🖋️🗡️🏹⛏️⚒️⚔️🔫
Hikaru’s life was messed up. He was raped as a kid. He found true love, which was Ai (so he believed). She broke up with him cuz reasons. He was pointed out by someone that the only ones that cares for them is those people (both the husband and wife (wife being the rapist as well)). Hikaru feels extremely conflicted because he doesnt know what to feel, especially when he was the reason for killing them. He decide to kill other celebrities, especially Ai. He’s still a murderer but with a painful past, Ai was the one to broke it off while also being pregnant. Ai is pretty much an airhead, Hikaru is just confused (but still a murderer nonetheless which doesn’t justify his actions).
I feel like Kana will get in a coma becouse of hikaru. But survive. It will seem like she will die, making Aqua depressed again. And then Kana will wake up again near the end.
Hikaru officially my fav Oshi no ko char….
Hikaru: Are you winning son?
Ever since I saw did research on Hikaru and what he went through, I compared him to the character of Kotoko Utsugi from the video game Ultra Despair Girl DRAE. Content warning btw since I'm going to compare Hikaru to Kotoko and the real-life Björn Andrésen and what they went through. Both Hikaru and Kotoko were actors at a young age who were exploited by the adults around them simply for their physical appearances. We don't know who Hikaru's parents were, but from what he went through, it seems like they simply used him as a means to an end. Kotoko's parents on the other hand, we do get information on them. Her father was a dentist who was having an affair with his assistant and planned on selling his own daughter on the black market by the time she reached puberty. Her mother, meanwhile, vicariously lived through Kotoko to become an actress, going to extremes such as prostituting herself and her own daughter to get acting deals. This left Kotoko mentally scarred, going into fits of mental episodes whenever someone says “Gentle”. After the death of Airi and her husband, Hikaru depended on Ai Hoshino, who was his Senpai at the time, for emotional support, and the two eventually fell in love. But whether to avoid burdening him with her pregnancy or something else, she dumped him. Kotoko, and four other kids who were her classmates and friends, were approached by Junko Enoshima, the main antagonist of the Danganronpa Universe. Junko helped faked the kids' disappearances, and gave them a safe place to stay. She gave Kotoko, Masaru, Jataro, Nagisa and Monaca the proper love and affection they longed for. But since she was a manipulative girl with a Despair Fetish, she taught the kids how to bring despair upon others. When she died, Kotoko and her friends, with Monaca's encouragement, formed the Warriors Of Hope. They eventually murdered their own parents, with Kotoko's parents being among them. Hikaru, due to Ai dumping him, went after female celebrities who were at the near height of their success, and had them killed by proxy in order to feel better about what happened to him. Kotoko, aside from collecting things she considers adorable, would find cute teenage girls to torment as revenge for what the former went through. The only difference between Hikaru and Kotoko is that while there's no high road for the former, the latter managed to redeem herself thanks to the kindness of Komaru Naegi, who is the younger of the Danganronpa Universe's protagonist Makoto Naegi, and Komaru's friend Toko Fukawa, who is Makoto's classmate. As for the comparison between Hikaru and Björn, it's similar but different. I first learned about him when I came across a movie called “Death In Venice” from 1971. At first, I thought the movie was a Giallo movie due to the title, but I was wrong when I found out it was a drama based on a novella. It was when my mother told me about Björn's life and what he went through. Both Hikaru and Björn were exploited those around them simply for their looks. Björn was placed in the entertainment business by his own grandmother. He felt uncomfortable around the adults. It wasn't until somewhere in his later years where he told his story in an interview and what he went through. Aside from what happened, his appearance in Death In Venice became popular in Japan, with manga artists such as Keiko Takemiya taking inspiration from his character of Tadzio from the film. With all of that said, he's currently living a normal life in Stockholm.
I think the only reason Ai broke up with Hikaru was because she found out she was pregnant and didn't want Ichigo and Myako to find out it was Hikaru who got her pregnant and if they kept hanging out they'd find out so she broke up with him
this chapter is mid this is how aqua should've confronted hikari Aqua: "Excuse me, you Hikari?" Hikari: "...Do I know you?" Aqua: "Forgive me for startling you, sir. I have a message for you. My name is Aqua Hoshino - you knew my mother." Hikari: "Heh, I see... I remember your mother." Aqua: "I've come for you, Hikari." Hikari: "Heheh.. And you, boy, have sure as shit found me." Aqua: "...You killed my mother!" Hikari: "Your mother killed herself with the life she lived." Aqua: "You killed her! I saw you!" Hikari: "You keep saying that." Aqua: "You sent an obsessive fan of her to do your dirty work, then he stabbed her like a dog!" Hikari: "And I'll stab you like one too, you little piece of trash! Now get out of here before I kill you aswell!" Aqua: "I ain't going nowhere, old man." *Aqua and Hikari then proceeds to get in position. One fateful afternoon, Aqua draws his revolver and empties 6 rounds of bullets inside Hikari's chest, causing him to die a brutal death. Aqua stands there as Hikari's corpse gets cold, looking at the gun once owned by his mother, knowing that this lingering pain and loneliness will never cease to haunt him. Revenge is a fool's game.*
That's so lame
@@sirishalakkakula8951 I like you sir you have a kind face
i aint fucking reading allat 😭
@@cameron3516 definitely not a reference to you know what
@@Wertyber when you mentioned revolver that's everything i needed to know
Moral of the story don't get too involved with someone
Let's make this chap fun ! When our hero said that ai don't know how to take care of herself .. mengo focused on a door with a safety mechanism 💀 ( Chapter 9 flashback...) When our hero said that it's fabricated, exaggerated, and the inconvient things were removed .... THIS IS EXACTLY THE LINE FROM OSHI NO KO CH 1 WITH MEI MEI AND THE OTHERS ... If you guys watched the anime ... The first line the narrator said was " this atory is a work of fiction" Given the chapter name ... I am waiting for this flashback for 2 years 🙂
Huh…Aqua inherited more from his father than he thought
Oh... sekarang aku tahu, balas dendam yang mo dilakuin Aqua, "itu" bukan membunuh secara social(bukan hanya sekedar menghancurkan karir Kamiki) atau membunuhnya secara fisik Tapi membunuhnya secara emosi, perasaan dan rasa bersalah. Baik di film atau realitanya Ai tidak mengungkapkan perasaan yang sesungguhnya ke Kamiki, Kamiki terus berasumsi bahwa Ai selama ini tidak mecintai Kamiki, sedangkan Kamiki sendiri dari lubuk hatinya sangat mencintai Ai dan menerima semua balas dendam dari Aqua. Kebenaran dari "Kebohongan 15 Tahun" adalah perasaan Ai yang sangat mencintai Kamiki, setelah kebenarannya terungkap Kamiki akan diliputi rasa bersalah seumur hidupnya, dan membunuh Kamiki secara perasaan.
I’m really starting believe this to be the case now. Ai did love Hikaru and had her kids relay that truth to him through the movie 🥲
they should include the part where hikaru released his inner workings inside of ai
@@cameron3516 Bro just read one of those d0ujins at this point
that's crazy
Wild ☠️
The sins of both mother and father that indirectly caused the heartbreaking tragedy for the twins!
This is just from my overthinking, but in Oshi no Ko, Ai Hoshino (I think) didn't truly love Hikaru. I got the idea because of the song "Idol" by Yoasobi. The part of the lyrics, "I don't have any idea how I could love anyone. I don't seem to know what it signifies," suggest that Ai struggled with understanding genuine love. Reflecting on these lyrics, I realized that Ai might have been drawn to Hikaru not because of true love, but because of his loneliness. She may have felt a connection or sympathy towards him due to his isolation, mistaking these feelings for love. This interpretation adds a layer of complexity to Ai's character, highlighting her emotional struggles and the impact of her past experiences on her relationships. The entire song provides deeper insights into Ai's internal conflicts and her difficulty in grasping the concept of true love. Well that's just the info that I overthinked for a few hours after the chapter 152 was released from the time, but I guess it really is correct?
That’s a good theory! She may have realized she didn’t truly love Hikaru even after getting pregnant and didn’t want to hurt him with the truth
at least the ruby x aqua thing ended 😂👍
I guess Ai find out Hikaru has dissociative identity disorder (DID) and Hikaru did not know about it.
Really he have DID
What if Ai knew she was pregnant and broke up with Hikaru to try to shield him from that burden?
She do that.
Damn Hikaru is like us today we focused to achieve success but damn, we got lose at the end, because our feelings wont be accepted. AI is like today girls, which search a peace place and stability, but carry on resposiblity in her hands. Follow path by adventure, and punishment by sociaty even she is accepted by them the reverse was for Hikaru ,which showcase us how cruel world it is. Oh boy i knew it Hikaru is dramatic character like AI but didnt expect it will be end up like that. Damn Author make great Dark manga ,perfectly inspired on the reality times.
Hikaru was shocked because he convinced himself that Ai didn’t love him, and his son was like, “You’re wrong dad, where are you going?” Hikaru’s great desire to sincerely hear “I love you”, which he heard in the recordings
Yep, I’m really leaning towards this theory now that Ai really did love him and the point of the 15 year lie was for her kids to pass on that message to him