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Maybe it's because it's a man ' s world and you still see the perfect body woman in movie/ not so good looking men. The phone sure help me to tell you what I think now.
The schools could never "not supervise" for fear of lawsuits and bullshit from parents. Recess has been lost to "standardized testing" and federal laws that decide what and how teachers teach down to the minute.
And here, I'm the parent who gets all the weird looks because my kids are the crazy ones everywhere we go.
This is depressing.
100% TRUE today's agenda pushers weather it be self interest or other will say no no it's not true, Those are the people with deeper issues!
5 minutes of apologizing to women before he even starts
what the heck is she saying???? abs no clue after 2 hrs.
She is not saying anything. That is her skill, she speaks and speaks but nothing of substance is actually uttered. If you want to talk about moral courage why is she not speaking out on behalf of the Palestinian people and the genocide taking place against them? Complete silence from her and all these other self-proclaimed liberals and Free speech advocates
As 3rd grade teacher I have used the Let Grow curriculum this year and have been BLOWN AWAY by it. It is a highlight for the kids ever month, and the sharing of the stories of the things that have done independently is so empowering.
You can blame phones if you want, but that doesn't change the fact that there's nothing worth committing to, nothing worth buying into and therfore no hope for the future. Nothing but being a pirate pays off in this society. You can take all the phones away, but it wont give people hope or fix our communities. Without hope for the future, you can have all the studies on the youth you want, but nothing is getting better until there is a hope that things can get better. And as long as we keep paying our bullies and neglecting to take our communities into our own hands, it's all moot. Let them drown in their screens, they'll never be anything more than cattle anyway. Just like we are.
Social media has now become hypnotical media. The mindfulness workbook called 30 Days Without Social Media by Harper Daniels was helpful, totally recommend it for taking a break from social media.
"When adults stop trusting each other with their kids, disaster" This was something I saw after living in Spain. If you go to anplaypark or plaza where kids are playing, the kids are playing together, the adults are all sitting somewhere over there, talking, having a coffee etc, and they are all collectively keeping an eye and trusting each other to do the same. And if you're in a queue and the kid with his mum in front of you smiles or makes a face at you and you respond in kind, the parent smiles at you too, rather than thinking you're some perv/kidnapper.
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Taking a break from social media is a must. Think of all the time in people's lives that is wasted scrolling and liking and just staring at videos, memes, strangers talking, etc. I like the mindfulness workbook called 30 Days Without Social Media by Harper Daniels, it goes good with Jonathan's book I believe.
I want there to be an Opera, "Richrd Reev" with a ballet corps, an artists troupe, an meldey of musicians and some film people.
Public policy problem = culturral probklem
I'm getting sick of Haidt. He's everywhere right now using fearmongering to get people to buy his book. So, yes this is an issue, but buyer beware. He's been trying to prove his hypothesis for years, and as he even admits, correlation is still not causation. He is not doing the differential required to rule out other variables for childhood anxiety and depression. And there are many. By making social media the boogie man, he is diverting attention away from the stress factors that lead kids to their phones in the first place. And those underlying issues need to be addressed. I see hundreds of kids a year as a psychologist diagnostician and I have only encountered a handful of kids who spend 9 hours a day on a device. But Haidt calls it an epidemic, blaming everything from suicide and the "collapse of mental health" on phones. Kids come to my practice when they aren't coping with life, and I survey their screen time. What I see are kids who are in sports, music, theater, debate, cheer, camps, clubs, STEM, art etc. Kids are busy with a lot of healthy activity (sometimes too much) and very few of the most anxious of them are ever on a device all day. I also see kids who are addicted to media, but there are so many variables impacting them, and the ones who are glued to their phones are seeking to numb themselves from other sources of stress. (If it wasn't a phone it would be something else.) The education systems are archaic (not teachers - but systems), they have fewer options to learn a trade, they have more obstacles to attending college, they see mass shootings, excessive cruelty in popular music, movies and books (don't get me started on YA lit), parents enduring economic stress, global warming threats, erosion of human rights and civil rights, they are absorbing plastic into their bodies at alarming rates... so many variables...Do you know what else happened in 2010? A cultural divide broke wide open in this country through a platform for open hate speech and poisonous grievance, the normalizing of bullying, and a wealth gap wider than ever in history. Kids aren't getting this from phones, but from us, the adults. If we want to know why kids are stressed, we need to take a look at ourselves as adults and ask what kind of world we are creating for our children. The problem is so much bigger than phones. And taking them away is not going to solve the problem. Teaching them media literacy will be a good start. But encouraging positive social platforms is another. I should just write my own damn book. And stop social psychologizing all over us Haidt, until you do your due dilligence.
So many excellent points here. WOW.
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My fondest memory in elementary school was skateboarding around with a handball going to find different giant walls to play with friends until the sun set. My fondest middle school memory was learning how to do pull-ups and playing basketball with friends. My fondest high school memory was walking 3 miles every morning with my sister and then walking back home. It took about an hour one-way, but I remember we would talk about everything together. The most fun were the times we got in trouble!
One of the best and most important talks I’ve ever witnessed
Flip phones, Brick phones (Nokia), and pagers.
The opening failed almost completely. Luckily, CC was there to save us again. He is missed!
Is this speaker one of the co-authors of The Coddling of the American Mind?
Not just a imbalance in teachers, but psychology also. The lack of support networks and systems. When the statistics show they are needed. Also prison statistics and populations. Male vs female populations and abuse statistics. Lesbian vs gay abuse rates. Also the disparity in male vs female sentences for the same crimes. Child care to probability of problems later on like prison. Couples do best, single males next, single females had the highest probability of a kid getting into trouble later on. Also things like abuse shelters need to be made. The statistics support such.
This jerk just doesn't want to acknowledge that boys are discriminated against in education by primarily white, female teachers (and that nonwhite boys get the worst of it). Maybe get rid of that discrimination and then we can talk about "holding back" boys.
I saw a meme the other day which sums this up. "When I was a kid I died in the park and my mum told me to just get up and walk it off"
Why does Jonathan Haid ignore INTEGRITY as a foundational human morality?
I would say that it's not that liberals' foundational morality is narrower, but that in Jonathan Haid esteemed view Integrity is not foundational because conservatives would discard integrity when faced with choosing between integrity and loyalty/orthodoxy ...
Dr. Haidt mentioned pornography, but under stressed it as an issue. That alone will cause depression and surliness in boys. It also is resulting in sexual assault on children by children.
Thank God I have a boy? With a pornography addiction in his pocket, which is destroying his ability to have vulnerable, intimate relationships with a wife.
Born in the tail end of millenials. My memories of unsupervised childhood play are always dangerous games which stop when one of the boys hurts himself enough to cry. We awkwardly wait while he calmed down and moved on to the next game. ie falling down a tree, or hitting a rock while sliding down river rapids. I also walked to school and I remember a few precious moments where some parents dropped their kids 10min earlier and we would play together in the schoolyard before class.
I have seen these effects in my college classroom, from around 2013-2014 to the present. But what I have seen more often is an alarming increase in the numbers of high schoolers taking my chemistry course for college credit, as well as a majority (typically 80%) of traditional students, that seem to think they know more about the subject (or any subject) than I and my colleagues. I hold three science degrees from three respected (offline) universities, yet daily these American students attempt to convince me that they know more about my expertise than I do. 18-21 years on the planet vs 47-60 years on the planet. And they show no humility while they do so. It is a daily hassle, unlike the trials and tribulations in the classroom before 2013. They are somewhat frightening, and that sentiment increases every semester. It is becoming almost impossible to have faith in their outcomes as well as in the society I will grow old among/within. I see seventy year-old parents having to take care of their 40-50 year-old offspring, ten years from now.
I'm 30 and I always wanted to climb a tree. My parents would always yell at me when I would start to climb a tree. I'm thinking about starting rock climbing as a hobby.
My mother wasn't happy that my village school allowed children to play on what was probably an unsafe slide and other equipment. So when they refused to stop children crossing the deserted country road to the playground each lunchtime, she banned my younger brother from going there, so he was forced to stay alone in the school yard. At the time i knew this was completely wrong and that she should have asked him to stay with his friends regardless of the tiny amount of potential danger involved. She still insists to this day she was correct in her decision.
What do we do, as employers, with the group of kids who already grew up with all of the anxiety since 2012 and are now messed up members of the work force? I understand how to fix childhood going forward 9f we follow your advice, but there is an entire generation of literally DAMAGED people who are bringing their anxieties to the business world and are causing harms to non-anxious people.
Bless this man.
it's over
Sadly
This guy has such a good philosophy and balanced solution for interacting with the modern age of technology. We need more like him.
As a kid in the seventies we'd roam all over town. Got in trouble occasionally and got ourselves out of trouble. We did things that were not OK and got to suffer the consequences of those actions by strangers kicking our asses. Those are my best childhood memories.
There is 0 reason for someone under 15 to have a smart phone. Parents need to set these boundaries, as they will be more effective, rather than rely on schools and legislators to try and do the work for them.
I feel like a missing part of the picture Haidt paints here is that the retreat of many people into a digital world is in part a result of how shit things are getting for them in the real world / how little the real world they experience is seeming to offer them. I suppose he touches on that in his account of how children aren't allowed the free and risky play they had pre-1990s, but I think similar points could be made for adults. The collapse of communities and families and friendship networks with frequent work-based migration (and the digitalisation of those networks) is implicated here, of course. And I mean, particularly for people who would be classed as 'losers' in this hyper-completitive social, romantic and professional world, the online world can provide a less depressing, less limiting set of conditions, and opportunities to excel on completely different terms.
Also it would be great to hear his response to the idea that, as this technology appears likely to be the all-important toolbox of the future, the huge amount of time and energy kids dedicate to it is somehow appropriate and likely to serve them well.
As he's contrasting this idea of a play-based childhood with this idea of a phone-based childhood, it would be great if he could say a bit more about why he's effectively dismissive of all the play that can be engaged in through phones - a bit more about why he concludes that kind of play is just inherently less valuable than embodied play.
He named different reasons throughout the video. Here’s a few I recall: With phones: Kids are more anxious. It rewires the brain. Kids are sexually preyed upon, especially girls. Kids are lonelier. He hasn’t even mentioned how unhealthy kids are as a result of phone use: obesity for one thing.
I'm absolutely inthralled with this talk, but then I zoom out and hate that I'm watching it on my phone. I'm desperate but equally struggling to break this absurd, vicious cycle.
It’s OK that you’re getting your information on your phone. He’s talking about children. There’s a difference between you and them. Unless you’re a child. You didn’t identify yourself.
Yes! My friends 11 year old daughter was walking to a friends house (literally down the block) and the police came to my friend’s house!! WTF ??
Based.
The fact that he has to spend a few minutes telling us that women still have problems is ridiculous. "It's OK! Women are still more important!"
This is so sad.
Pornography. Society has two choices; ban pornography or write off a huge portion of the male population. It is really that simple. Anyone who tells you differently is an idiot.
As an adult without children, I have always been fascinated by the instinct I have to keep an eye on unattended children while in public. It is almost as if adults are programmed to take a small amount of responsibility for the safety of everyone else's children while in public. I have only rarely needed to intervene to help a child but it's comforting to know that humans have a built-in social safety network to keep children safe in the community.
alright haidt overly litigious school rules. why. behind every blade of grass is a lawyer. porn is bad. alright. who produces porn. too much focus on children of tomorrow. not enough focus on adults of today.