As a recently diagnosed multi-exceptional gifted adult, I found this right when I needed it most. Thank you!
@AboveRL7 күн бұрын
Maybe some can enlighten me. I took the test to be in GT classes in the 90's in Texas. I got in. What IQ is that equivalent to? as a baseline for acceptance.
@basemkhourma516324 күн бұрын
Thank you for this helpful information about giftedness. I have my own definition of giftedness : The definition of Giftedness: the possession of special potential in a subject that has no scientific pillars.
@norarhoads156624 күн бұрын
Dear Linda You created ISAD 1979, TESTED 6500 CHILDREN, PUBLISHED JOURNEL ON ADULT GIFTNESS, ORGANIZED SYMPOSIUM ON GIFTNESS IN ADULTS, INTERNATONAL CONGRESS IN 2012, SYMPOSIUM ON GIFTED WOMEN IN 2018 SALON SERIES ON GIFTED ADULT 2011 and you speak at these events with a vocabulary and insight that equals Shakespeare, which brings me to ask when are you going to label yourself creative? With great affection Nora
@HoratioTalbot771_aАй бұрын
Linda SIlverman is the most annoying woman on planet earth .
@rubyglasspool21552 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I think the number one reason I do not easily accept my giftedness because I think everyone else experiences and thinks and feels like me. I cannot understand that others do NOT experience like I do. I assume others inner world is similar to mine. Even if outwardly it seems they’re not experiencing life like me, I think well privately they surely must be experiencing life as I do, they’re just hiding it.
@alif88842 ай бұрын
Great if you are gifted. Not if you’re not. 😢
@putaindenoix2 ай бұрын
don't relate to any of this video because i'm thick as shit. still interesting though.
@patrickorourke40942 ай бұрын
Would love to learn how gifted (not 2E) adults can still make friends as grownups. Giftedness can be very isolating, and socialising can be a real challenge as an adult. For example, where to meet and hangout informally. This is a massive blindspot culturally. Many wrongly assume bright people already have friends or can find them easily. In actual fact, it's terrifically difficult to connect outside of work as an adult. Thanks again. Enjoyed your presentation.
@user-be2rj1ss5j3 ай бұрын
Nice conversation. I sadly have a bullying experience concerning "giftedness". I was scapegoated by MELISSA KIRK in an online course Human Design run by company Your PURPOSE, owned by Baeth Davis. I paid 3500 USD for this. It was advertised as a personality typology teaching, aimed at gifted people. Baeth Davis claims to be gifted and to help highly gifted people to assess their personalities and find their exact niche in their profession. Baeth Davis had mistakenly advertised that the program will be taught by her. However, it was taught by some Melissa Kirk. She was advertised a a teacher of Human Design with a certification. This appeared not to be true. However, I was bullied in her online course by MELISSA KIRK over a longer period of time. Baeth Davis had stolen my 3500 USD and does not want to return it. She never responded. I come from a developing relatively poor country, nothing in comparison to rich American collecting money from some poor people (I apologize for all good American people who are not like Baeth Davis) and I would have expected that when she advertised her program as educational program for talented people that I will be not bullied there. Melissa Kirk claimed that she was a teacher of Human Design, however, after I had to leave the program because of the bullying, she started to do a beginners course in the IHD school. I was in this course, too. MELISSA KIRK seems to have had a trouble to even understand my questions. MELISSA KIRK started to attacking me for asking her that what she claims about the topic is different than in the reference book. She was not able to even understand what I was talking about. Later, others in the online course asked after these incorrect claims Baeth Davis (they had to do a test and having false information could cause failing the test) and Davis had to correct Melissa KIrk. This has been happening over and over. I mean that the basics of Human Design is not that difficult. Especially if you are really a good student and a good teacher. Since this time, it seems that Melissa Kirk started to keep an eye of bully on me. Later Melissa Kirk had been using different technics of bullying on me: deflecting my questions, talking about something general, not related to my question at all, shutting me down, spending really minimum time with me. Later she started to be attacking me with spiritual gaslight: telling what a bad personality and nasty personality I have, basically what a jerk and horrible person I am. Later Melissa Kirk, a competent bully, had been attacking me for asking questions: I WAS NOT ALLOWED FOR MY MONEY to ask questions. Due to Melissa Kirk I was asking stupid questions, wrong questions etc. She started to openly verbally bully me and shaming me publicly. All this bullying had been recorded and had been displayed on in the internet, possibly sold to others. I was solving this with the owner of the company Baeth Davis. It took very long time and it was solved that I am "resistant" to teachings of Melissa Kirk. The company does not give refunds, so I had to stay in the course. Baeth Davis confirmed to me in an online paid Human Design session with her that yes, I was bullied by Melissa Kirk in the program of the YOUR PURPOSE company and I DESERVE TO BE BULLIED. She as well was very aggressive and rude to me for "ASKING QUESTIONS" and for ASKING WRONG QUESTION. BAETH DAVIS WAS LITERALLY YELLING AT ME. Baeth Davis seems to lure out of me the money while she knew that she will likely abuse me because, as she said " I DESERVE TO BE BULLIED" and paying money the bully. I want my 3500 USD back that Baeth Davis has stolen from me I guess that I have the right for further financial endommagement for the bullying and online defamations.
@OVNIPOA3 ай бұрын
Linda Silverman , You know myself more than anyone in the universe. I cryed so many times hearing your lecture. Very deep feelings on me when you explain myself in such precise , accurate and Also positive Way.. thank you só much . Truly you are a wonderfull person
@robertpolnicky77023 ай бұрын
I never wanted to be famous with my karaoke or songwriting. I just wanted to do something
@Discovery_and_Change3 ай бұрын
56:46 perfectionism is a desire for excellence 58:17 prioritize. Dont be a perfectionist at everything
@Discovery_and_Change3 ай бұрын
25:52 age 82 32:30 own your giftedness 35:46 if 98% find you odd, seek the company of those who love you as you are 41:00 what's your passion and excites you? 48:02 gifted giver 48:54 does this person feed me or drain me? 52:00 let it be known that you have needs
@Discovery_and_Change3 ай бұрын
12:42 exceptional abstract reasoning ability 17:07 relentlessly creative mind 17:42 high standards for self 19:20 (characteristics)
@williamholder20203 ай бұрын
Have you seen where the children overthink a simple problem because of the way they think?
@M-dv1yj3 ай бұрын
In 6th grade our science teacher asked us to calculate how much air a room in a ship could hold. I froze really terrified and walked up to him and said sorry I have no idea how to account for air compression and also are we assuming a perfect seal on the room? He looked at me puzzled and said. No 😂… I thought then why ask such a flawed question🤷🏽♂️
@michaelvandenheuvel3174 ай бұрын
I’m tired of waiting
@Idellphany4 ай бұрын
This is so helpful, thank you
@nancykralik67794 ай бұрын
Can’t get voice here. Later
@jadencecardoza94604 ай бұрын
Finding the right counselor/therapist/psychologist has been so incredibly draining. It doesn’t take me long to determine if I can “trust” (the ability to take in what I have to share and the transference of energy) someone to actually “ listen ” ( the ability to have an open/ unbiased mind). Mind you I don’t mean this as a belittlement of ones integrity as a person, it’s merely a discernment of the ethos chemistry. I’m on OHP insurance and can’t afford the ones who specialize on this topic. So if there’s someone out there that would or could help with some options I am most appreciative? And of course I’m still searching myself❤️👉🌎🌍🌏
@jadencecardoza94604 ай бұрын
Agreed, implementing and the integration of the many aspects of one self is tremendously hard. All while everything is going on upstairs in the head, producing its fruit is another thing. I find it extremely difficult observing and overwhelmed at all these boxes to be stuffed in and culturally/environmentally forced to pick one. I wrote a little poem that I’d like to share❤️ Puzzle I am I watch, I hear, I grow, as does the pieces. I rest as the chrysalis forms, I gather all the attributes of perception and put together the picture I saw in the mosaic splatter. I feel the immensity of every piece, they begin to speak in profound colors. I wait and wait, then wait some more, I then start to integrate, for the beauty of my wings must stretch before I fly. I’m here and ready 🌈🐛🦋💃❤️
@jadencecardoza94604 ай бұрын
The beauty of retro causality and reclaiming and/or the innerstandings of our inner child is probably the most profound part of feeling the textures of my past. The vast subtextual gesturism of this reflection not only brightens one’s own self existence but also opens up a tool for the macrocosmic observer aka narrators perspective. From this observatory, the compartmentalized fractal lines disappear, it’s like a form of de compartmentalization that is smeared into a mosaic spherical ever expanding bubble.
@jadencecardoza94604 ай бұрын
In addition to this, it also helps influence and or excel the anatomy of compassion and empathy.
@TheWillmo654 ай бұрын
Thank you. I am a lay person who, several decades ago, was introduced to the notion of incorporating mathematical thinking in our observations through Rudolf Steiner's "Philosophy of Freedom". I appreciate that your broad understanding of a complex topic provides such a practical insight. Keep up the good work and You will be teaching all children as if they were gifted. ☺ Thank you so much.
@Rowboaty4 ай бұрын
Omg I'm 8 minutes in and I had the same experience with that film! We watched it at school, and I was in floods of tears at the end - the only kid to have that reaction - I remember the teachers being really concerned and I was just so embarrassed! <3
@Inquiring_Together5 ай бұрын
Great video. Yes, the most emphatic among us, seem to be the least emphatic. Like seeing the divisive nature of cultural conditioning. One sees it for oneself. Then, one can’t fit in and yet not in conflict. So it may leave the individual in tough spots of being misunderstood. Perhaps, twice exceptionalism can stem from this observation. Where in the pressure to fit in, but seeing its inherent outer conflict, creates an inner conflict of sorts.
@borisgalos69675 ай бұрын
Geniuses make their own rules in such matters, Joe; they always have. -- Robert A. Heinlein - Gulf - 1949 Geniuses are justifiably contemptuous of lesser opinion and are always indifferent to sexual customs of the tribe; they make their own rules. -- Robert A. Heinlein - Stranger in a Strange Land - 1961 Geniuses and supergeniuses always make their own rules about sex as on everything else; they do not accept the monkey customs of their lessers. -- Robert A. Heinlein - Friday - 1982
@angelamcbride91456 ай бұрын
Proud of you. Such a huge asset...keep letting your light shine. You are making a difference❤😊
@Music4EverKanekavi6 ай бұрын
Why does this sound like you’re describing bipolar ?
@M-dv1yj3 ай бұрын
I would assume because profoundly giftedness pushes the brain and especially emotions to extremes towards the limits of our human capacity to handle them. Same for the raw data bandwidth and the connections being made.. that causes some funny and challenging behaviors which can present like other things that break or push the brain which express some similar patterns (at the surface) like bipolar and autism. 😊
@redefinedliving59742 ай бұрын
Can mimic each other. A PG person can all have these so-called disorders and can actually turn them into their favor. It can be a continuum I'd say. A lot of Bipolar people are creative and a huge chunk of giftedness is creativity
@michaelvandenheuvel3177 ай бұрын
Giftedness come from being stupid. An open mind to question.
@Diverse_Interests7 ай бұрын
Some of the worst bullying I ever experienced came from teachers and often teachers have an angry approach towards giftedness especially in relation to not wanting it to be real or any differences to matter. Even now as an adult I have to hide because it makes people feel threatened or bad about themselves and most come to the conclusion that no such thing exists and giftedness is just people wanting to better than others. It doesn’t matter about what word is used for naming people , the associated feelings will be exactly the same. The worst is being outed in the work place as the bullying can be severe and combined with intent to use the person as a sort of magic wand to get promoted. There is very little out there for gifted adults and it is like they stop being gifted as soon as they are adults.
@M-dv1yj2 ай бұрын
Your seeing things from your perspective and your and outlier. Your not seeing your situation from the view of the human organism. Which does not care about your mind but humanity breeding in many senses. The mind of the human organism is made up of its constituents which are all way slower than your. But to them any deviation from the expected might lead to doom unless it’s been socially accepted as that is how they find indication something is safe and therefore acceptable. The more deviations you are from the norm the worse that gets. You are literally a threat to them in ways only they can perceive. It is sorry to say dumb entitlement that you would expect anything else. Bar forced increase of the general population iq this will always be our struggle. They see your smarts as a resource to extract toward their small views. It’s why the smartest of us often don’t do what we think they could and would. They are siphoned off into nothingness by a world that only sees them as a resource and not even see what they can we can really offer. By adult hood your are supposed to be contributing then dying not building and conditioning as such they stopped caring about your merits of mind. Well not stop caring they can not see what it means for you or them or us all. They just react to pre conditioned stimulus and reject anything t strange which means new and often smarter. We are lucky the world has grown enough to only ignore and use us some. In the past we were murdered for speaking what we saw and thought. Out simply being alive and in their space is bullying them. 🤷🏽♂️ We are bound by their limits in this social construct that sustains us.
@Diverse_Interests2 ай бұрын
@@M-dv1yj What you said helps. The whole idea of be yourself comes with consequence. I tried not hiding and the results were terrible when it came to other people. Everything different is taken as a threat even if there is no intent or interests in harm. I can tell you being yourself fully is a joy, it’s just not the right environment for being out numbered. Workplaces in adulthood are worse for bullying. I wish I had someone tell me this earlier. Here, in. This environment, people will seek to take your work and simultaneously discredit you and have you unable to continue in your field. Any difference in problem solving or creativity is crushed and claimed for promotion. There is a total misunderstanding and it is centred around people to edit out what doesn’t fit their conception of reality that lets them believe they are obtaining goals or getting more for themselves or their closest people. It is all “more for me” and “lose nothing” mentality and done in zero sum gaming. You can be kind, you can be true, you can still be not a zero sum gamer, but you have to be be highly selective of who knows you as you are and who is able to be close to you. It is true and sad, that the first to be murdered in political power changes are the gifted people because they would speak against what creates worse situations and is unjust. Killed first because the reasoning and care can bring out the best in others and unite them. Taken from the gene pool permanently, it is/was such a loss to humanity. Reason enough to focus on building one’s own group of loved ones to fight for, rather than dying for people who never cared. It is so harsh, but in the end all of the NTs look after themselves first, and do better for it. It’s ugly, but is the reality of the majority. It’s not even personal.
@yootoob10010018 ай бұрын
It's been suggested to me a few different times during the course of my life and frankly I feel like I don't even want to go there. For some reason, even thinking about it causes me a tremendous amount of anxiety to the point I almost don't want to think about why it does. At this point, I don't even know where or from whom to seek assistance on this because I fear a wild goose chase ensuing. Thank you for covering what to do if there's a feeling of unsafety with the exploration of one's situation.
@scottjackson1638 ай бұрын
I think there is a danger of narcissism and unproductive self-absorption in all of this - a propensity for worshipping potential over accomplishment. People who can should do and let their work products stand as testimony to any qualities of mind may underly the fruits of their labor.
@busybee22124 ай бұрын
This is a terribly reductive and ignorant summation. No one is worshipping anything. Denying some gifted folks need extra support is extremely ableist and completely misses the entire point of this helpful video.
@keshav_p4 ай бұрын
@@busybee2212agree. It speaks of growth mindset and also let's us be aware of places to grow. "Reclaim ".
@bethmyles-geddes46994 ай бұрын
I agree @scottjackson163. I think one of the purposes of this framework is self acceptance about a diminishing of shame-I would say this is ‘early stages’ work around this -self acceptance is really the key but my mind while listening to this was arguing with the interviewee….”what about the world of education and work which is output oriented “ it wasn’t for me . Gifted adults need to renavigate the world with this knowledge to both self advocate but also to be productive , thrive and meet responsibilities
@meera80363 ай бұрын
The reason why so many gifted people don’t turn potential into accomplishment is because of comments like yours, which only add to gifted trauma. Gifted people are a special needs group, not a bunch of narcissists.
@scottjackson1638 ай бұрын
This is some stunning stuff. Virtuosity and the addiction to the thrill of the high wire act - a theme that resonates deeply with me. Across my life, I see peaks and troughs plotted as a sine wave across time, scabrous behavior trending to bathos followed by prodigious spikes in performance, spikes that occasionally border on the fictional. Example: I spent a fair portion of my high school years attending rock concerts, riding a motorcycle (at age 14 and without a license), living shacked up with my girlfriend, and paying little attention to my academic work. I was fortunate to get into college, at all, yet three years from my 18th birthday, I had a graduate degree from Stanford University and I had been accepted into law school. Somewhere along the way, I took (under timed, proctor-supervised conditions) the Terman Concept Mastery Test (form T) and I scored above the 99.9th percentile of the general population. I flunked out of law school, then earned a M.S. in Information & Telecommunication Systems from Johns Hopkins University.
@scottjackson1638 ай бұрын
This is the best information I’ve ever heard for understanding my life and experiences.
@scottjackson1638 ай бұрын
I agree with the foolishness inherent in the term “overachiever.” The word implies that there is a level of achievement beyond which an individual should not go - a ridiculous thought.
@scottjackson1638 ай бұрын
In what precisely does giftedness consist if this special quality does not feel like anything?
@olygarcia95538 ай бұрын
What a great conference ! Only parents like me understood what is to have a gifted child. I could write a great book now that my son is 32. Its been a great adventure.!
@BradKittelTTH8 ай бұрын
No one ever said that about giftedness to mii, the "I"s that few see in Mii, or you. Thanks for stating your age too, by the way, for it gives me joy to see my elders so smart, articulate, lucid and intelligent. My family all looked like crap, seemed like they were unhealthy and old by my age yet I am in my most fit, best condition in my life after a life of hell as a kid. Your work has helped me understand who I am and why I never fit. After nearly 20 years of creating Salvage, Texas, a paradise manifested from an industrial waste dump where no life existed without thorn or poison in it. You help mii understand who I am as a human body, communicating with my spirit, Wubtron in Wibblry, and the Book of Wibblry and Wub, the story of how suicide leads to a life of service once given the purpose and meaning that would get mii through Hell. Before that, I had no reason to stay alive. Apparently, I was gifted across the entire spectrum yet never looked into this realm of science or your work. I did not have time while I did all the other things, workaholic on steroids, a serial entrepreneur but at the cost of all personal relationships due to the armor I put on in my youth of being beaten, bullied, and an outcast, crippled physically, emotionally, and still, I survived. I feel I have thrived, but it took 60 years to reach this point. The adulthood, at this end when wii mature at 66-78 is to understand who I became after going through Hell. I am thrilled with my life but had to understand, to remember that I chose to come into existence, with a purpose, a goal, a job to do, and after my son passed away, prophesized with my denying God could predict and make something happen 50 years away. Once it was proven, with the loss of my son, myself as that "I" was forced into the metamorphosis that had to follow. 17 years of social distancing has paid off well.
@BradKittelTTH8 ай бұрын
While I am just reaching my peak, at 68 I am thrilled to listen to your lectures and understand why my life has been spent outside the realm of the people I know. Thank you for your work and lectures as they have helped me understand who and why I have been the many "I"s it took to form the Mii I have become and love after decades of self destruction. While I may not fit in with the world, I also have no desire to do so except to offer what I have found through my creations, Tiny Texas Houses was one of the businesses, like Salvage, Texas, quantum chapters written into a Quantum Story that will be the entangling path for others to learn and understand how to communicate this spirit in body to the world, as well as use the powers wii have to alter the future and form the millennium of Peace and Prosperity that Wii came to create. Can Wii create that World Union of Beings that can communicate cosmic wide, be integrated at last into the bigger cosmic society. Most do not believe this is coming, but I do. Thanks again. This must be understood for mankind to make the next step. Kudos to your works.
@BradKittelTTH8 ай бұрын
If I can meet my expectations then I will have done something great for I rarely achieve what I want, but aiming high lets me out perform anyone I know. It is the belief that I can do what others do not dare try that allows me to excel. It is our belief system, or ability to give all wii have to make what wii want to manifest happen. Focus, willingness to sacrifice all else to succeed... but that means the ability to detach from people. Reasoning is a key to this, but so it the ability to focus, to maintain that focus, and to act. Acting is the key to proving the tools can produce results, Having the tools but not the ambition or desire to be successful is nothing, but the desire to do... to act upon that abstract visualization ability is to change reality, to alter the future by our acts. Seeing what is possible, that abstract reasoning ability is a key, I agree. Overcoming the fear of failure and realizing that failure is a process that takes us to success is a huge aspect of continued growth in our giftedness... unhampered by the people around them, potential can grow with time.
@olygarcia95538 ай бұрын
What a great message. Thank you!
@claudiamanta19439 ай бұрын
9:43 You ‘TRY to be a human person’?! Are you a robot? An alien? A plant? Are you mentally unwell? Or just rude?
@princesspink50729 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🎉
@claudiamanta19439 ай бұрын
32:17 Existential depression and moral traumas can be treated with medication? It’s just a brain juices imbalance. That explanation is a sign of professional stupidity at its finest. And ugly character with its more or less spiritual laziness and cowardice.
@Inquiring_Together9 ай бұрын
Great episode. The individualized profile to unlock one's own unique gifts! yes! Thats what I'm talking about. In Jeet Kune Do, a kind of open source martial art, set into motion by Bruce Lee, is all about tapping into one's own vitality. Such a tapping into is incomparable and thus it can never be cause for self centered fear, but rather, a complete negation, in favor of wholeness. Also, about the ability or the capacity to tap into one's foundational sense of attention- it too can be benefited by indvidualized approach. Tools like AI and VR will drastically cut the time between learning and application for many subject matters, so more energy and time can be dedicated to fostering intimacy with oneself through the student/teacher connection.
@WinnieAmos059 ай бұрын
Very informative program
@technogaianism816410 ай бұрын
I'm new to the subject and Julie's book is right on time, preordered on Audible. It's 11 hours of content!
@Inquiring_Together10 ай бұрын
👍
@portablegiftedandtalented986210 ай бұрын
This is Mark Hess. My goodness, how things (and my opinion!) have changed. I am tempted to take this down, but I want to leave it her for posterity. This is "where I was" at the opening of the pandemic. I have been reading much these past few years about how devastating online lives can be for our kids--especially kids who already feel "othered" for one reason or another, especially for kids who already experience trauma and disconnect. I still believe our virtual world holds many opportunities; however, let's take care of our kids and be cautious.
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As a recently diagnosed multi-exceptional gifted adult, I found this right when I needed it most. Thank you!
Maybe some can enlighten me. I took the test to be in GT classes in the 90's in Texas. I got in. What IQ is that equivalent to? as a baseline for acceptance.
Thank you for this helpful information about giftedness. I have my own definition of giftedness : The definition of Giftedness: the possession of special potential in a subject that has no scientific pillars.
Dear Linda You created ISAD 1979, TESTED 6500 CHILDREN, PUBLISHED JOURNEL ON ADULT GIFTNESS, ORGANIZED SYMPOSIUM ON GIFTNESS IN ADULTS, INTERNATONAL CONGRESS IN 2012, SYMPOSIUM ON GIFTED WOMEN IN 2018 SALON SERIES ON GIFTED ADULT 2011 and you speak at these events with a vocabulary and insight that equals Shakespeare, which brings me to ask when are you going to label yourself creative? With great affection Nora
Linda SIlverman is the most annoying woman on planet earth .
Excellent video. I think the number one reason I do not easily accept my giftedness because I think everyone else experiences and thinks and feels like me. I cannot understand that others do NOT experience like I do. I assume others inner world is similar to mine. Even if outwardly it seems they’re not experiencing life like me, I think well privately they surely must be experiencing life as I do, they’re just hiding it.
Great if you are gifted. Not if you’re not. 😢
don't relate to any of this video because i'm thick as shit. still interesting though.
Would love to learn how gifted (not 2E) adults can still make friends as grownups. Giftedness can be very isolating, and socialising can be a real challenge as an adult. For example, where to meet and hangout informally. This is a massive blindspot culturally. Many wrongly assume bright people already have friends or can find them easily. In actual fact, it's terrifically difficult to connect outside of work as an adult. Thanks again. Enjoyed your presentation.
Nice conversation. I sadly have a bullying experience concerning "giftedness". I was scapegoated by MELISSA KIRK in an online course Human Design run by company Your PURPOSE, owned by Baeth Davis. I paid 3500 USD for this. It was advertised as a personality typology teaching, aimed at gifted people. Baeth Davis claims to be gifted and to help highly gifted people to assess their personalities and find their exact niche in their profession. Baeth Davis had mistakenly advertised that the program will be taught by her. However, it was taught by some Melissa Kirk. She was advertised a a teacher of Human Design with a certification. This appeared not to be true. However, I was bullied in her online course by MELISSA KIRK over a longer period of time. Baeth Davis had stolen my 3500 USD and does not want to return it. She never responded. I come from a developing relatively poor country, nothing in comparison to rich American collecting money from some poor people (I apologize for all good American people who are not like Baeth Davis) and I would have expected that when she advertised her program as educational program for talented people that I will be not bullied there. Melissa Kirk claimed that she was a teacher of Human Design, however, after I had to leave the program because of the bullying, she started to do a beginners course in the IHD school. I was in this course, too. MELISSA KIRK seems to have had a trouble to even understand my questions. MELISSA KIRK started to attacking me for asking her that what she claims about the topic is different than in the reference book. She was not able to even understand what I was talking about. Later, others in the online course asked after these incorrect claims Baeth Davis (they had to do a test and having false information could cause failing the test) and Davis had to correct Melissa KIrk. This has been happening over and over. I mean that the basics of Human Design is not that difficult. Especially if you are really a good student and a good teacher. Since this time, it seems that Melissa Kirk started to keep an eye of bully on me. Later Melissa Kirk had been using different technics of bullying on me: deflecting my questions, talking about something general, not related to my question at all, shutting me down, spending really minimum time with me. Later she started to be attacking me with spiritual gaslight: telling what a bad personality and nasty personality I have, basically what a jerk and horrible person I am. Later Melissa Kirk, a competent bully, had been attacking me for asking questions: I WAS NOT ALLOWED FOR MY MONEY to ask questions. Due to Melissa Kirk I was asking stupid questions, wrong questions etc. She started to openly verbally bully me and shaming me publicly. All this bullying had been recorded and had been displayed on in the internet, possibly sold to others. I was solving this with the owner of the company Baeth Davis. It took very long time and it was solved that I am "resistant" to teachings of Melissa Kirk. The company does not give refunds, so I had to stay in the course. Baeth Davis confirmed to me in an online paid Human Design session with her that yes, I was bullied by Melissa Kirk in the program of the YOUR PURPOSE company and I DESERVE TO BE BULLIED. She as well was very aggressive and rude to me for "ASKING QUESTIONS" and for ASKING WRONG QUESTION. BAETH DAVIS WAS LITERALLY YELLING AT ME. Baeth Davis seems to lure out of me the money while she knew that she will likely abuse me because, as she said " I DESERVE TO BE BULLIED" and paying money the bully. I want my 3500 USD back that Baeth Davis has stolen from me I guess that I have the right for further financial endommagement for the bullying and online defamations.
Linda Silverman , You know myself more than anyone in the universe. I cryed so many times hearing your lecture. Very deep feelings on me when you explain myself in such precise , accurate and Also positive Way.. thank you só much . Truly you are a wonderfull person
I never wanted to be famous with my karaoke or songwriting. I just wanted to do something
56:46 perfectionism is a desire for excellence 58:17 prioritize. Dont be a perfectionist at everything
25:52 age 82 32:30 own your giftedness 35:46 if 98% find you odd, seek the company of those who love you as you are 41:00 what's your passion and excites you? 48:02 gifted giver 48:54 does this person feed me or drain me? 52:00 let it be known that you have needs
12:42 exceptional abstract reasoning ability 17:07 relentlessly creative mind 17:42 high standards for self 19:20 (characteristics)
Have you seen where the children overthink a simple problem because of the way they think?
In 6th grade our science teacher asked us to calculate how much air a room in a ship could hold. I froze really terrified and walked up to him and said sorry I have no idea how to account for air compression and also are we assuming a perfect seal on the room? He looked at me puzzled and said. No 😂… I thought then why ask such a flawed question🤷🏽♂️
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This is so helpful, thank you
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Finding the right counselor/therapist/psychologist has been so incredibly draining. It doesn’t take me long to determine if I can “trust” (the ability to take in what I have to share and the transference of energy) someone to actually “ listen ” ( the ability to have an open/ unbiased mind). Mind you I don’t mean this as a belittlement of ones integrity as a person, it’s merely a discernment of the ethos chemistry. I’m on OHP insurance and can’t afford the ones who specialize on this topic. So if there’s someone out there that would or could help with some options I am most appreciative? And of course I’m still searching myself❤️👉🌎🌍🌏
Agreed, implementing and the integration of the many aspects of one self is tremendously hard. All while everything is going on upstairs in the head, producing its fruit is another thing. I find it extremely difficult observing and overwhelmed at all these boxes to be stuffed in and culturally/environmentally forced to pick one. I wrote a little poem that I’d like to share❤️ Puzzle I am I watch, I hear, I grow, as does the pieces. I rest as the chrysalis forms, I gather all the attributes of perception and put together the picture I saw in the mosaic splatter. I feel the immensity of every piece, they begin to speak in profound colors. I wait and wait, then wait some more, I then start to integrate, for the beauty of my wings must stretch before I fly. I’m here and ready 🌈🐛🦋💃❤️
The beauty of retro causality and reclaiming and/or the innerstandings of our inner child is probably the most profound part of feeling the textures of my past. The vast subtextual gesturism of this reflection not only brightens one’s own self existence but also opens up a tool for the macrocosmic observer aka narrators perspective. From this observatory, the compartmentalized fractal lines disappear, it’s like a form of de compartmentalization that is smeared into a mosaic spherical ever expanding bubble.
In addition to this, it also helps influence and or excel the anatomy of compassion and empathy.
Thank you. I am a lay person who, several decades ago, was introduced to the notion of incorporating mathematical thinking in our observations through Rudolf Steiner's "Philosophy of Freedom". I appreciate that your broad understanding of a complex topic provides such a practical insight. Keep up the good work and You will be teaching all children as if they were gifted. ☺ Thank you so much.
Omg I'm 8 minutes in and I had the same experience with that film! We watched it at school, and I was in floods of tears at the end - the only kid to have that reaction - I remember the teachers being really concerned and I was just so embarrassed! <3
Great video. Yes, the most emphatic among us, seem to be the least emphatic. Like seeing the divisive nature of cultural conditioning. One sees it for oneself. Then, one can’t fit in and yet not in conflict. So it may leave the individual in tough spots of being misunderstood. Perhaps, twice exceptionalism can stem from this observation. Where in the pressure to fit in, but seeing its inherent outer conflict, creates an inner conflict of sorts.
Geniuses make their own rules in such matters, Joe; they always have. -- Robert A. Heinlein - Gulf - 1949 Geniuses are justifiably contemptuous of lesser opinion and are always indifferent to sexual customs of the tribe; they make their own rules. -- Robert A. Heinlein - Stranger in a Strange Land - 1961 Geniuses and supergeniuses always make their own rules about sex as on everything else; they do not accept the monkey customs of their lessers. -- Robert A. Heinlein - Friday - 1982
Proud of you. Such a huge asset...keep letting your light shine. You are making a difference❤😊
Why does this sound like you’re describing bipolar ?
I would assume because profoundly giftedness pushes the brain and especially emotions to extremes towards the limits of our human capacity to handle them. Same for the raw data bandwidth and the connections being made.. that causes some funny and challenging behaviors which can present like other things that break or push the brain which express some similar patterns (at the surface) like bipolar and autism. 😊
Can mimic each other. A PG person can all have these so-called disorders and can actually turn them into their favor. It can be a continuum I'd say. A lot of Bipolar people are creative and a huge chunk of giftedness is creativity
Giftedness come from being stupid. An open mind to question.
Some of the worst bullying I ever experienced came from teachers and often teachers have an angry approach towards giftedness especially in relation to not wanting it to be real or any differences to matter. Even now as an adult I have to hide because it makes people feel threatened or bad about themselves and most come to the conclusion that no such thing exists and giftedness is just people wanting to better than others. It doesn’t matter about what word is used for naming people , the associated feelings will be exactly the same. The worst is being outed in the work place as the bullying can be severe and combined with intent to use the person as a sort of magic wand to get promoted. There is very little out there for gifted adults and it is like they stop being gifted as soon as they are adults.
Your seeing things from your perspective and your and outlier. Your not seeing your situation from the view of the human organism. Which does not care about your mind but humanity breeding in many senses. The mind of the human organism is made up of its constituents which are all way slower than your. But to them any deviation from the expected might lead to doom unless it’s been socially accepted as that is how they find indication something is safe and therefore acceptable. The more deviations you are from the norm the worse that gets. You are literally a threat to them in ways only they can perceive. It is sorry to say dumb entitlement that you would expect anything else. Bar forced increase of the general population iq this will always be our struggle. They see your smarts as a resource to extract toward their small views. It’s why the smartest of us often don’t do what we think they could and would. They are siphoned off into nothingness by a world that only sees them as a resource and not even see what they can we can really offer. By adult hood your are supposed to be contributing then dying not building and conditioning as such they stopped caring about your merits of mind. Well not stop caring they can not see what it means for you or them or us all. They just react to pre conditioned stimulus and reject anything t strange which means new and often smarter. We are lucky the world has grown enough to only ignore and use us some. In the past we were murdered for speaking what we saw and thought. Out simply being alive and in their space is bullying them. 🤷🏽♂️ We are bound by their limits in this social construct that sustains us.
@@M-dv1yj What you said helps. The whole idea of be yourself comes with consequence. I tried not hiding and the results were terrible when it came to other people. Everything different is taken as a threat even if there is no intent or interests in harm. I can tell you being yourself fully is a joy, it’s just not the right environment for being out numbered. Workplaces in adulthood are worse for bullying. I wish I had someone tell me this earlier. Here, in. This environment, people will seek to take your work and simultaneously discredit you and have you unable to continue in your field. Any difference in problem solving or creativity is crushed and claimed for promotion. There is a total misunderstanding and it is centred around people to edit out what doesn’t fit their conception of reality that lets them believe they are obtaining goals or getting more for themselves or their closest people. It is all “more for me” and “lose nothing” mentality and done in zero sum gaming. You can be kind, you can be true, you can still be not a zero sum gamer, but you have to be be highly selective of who knows you as you are and who is able to be close to you. It is true and sad, that the first to be murdered in political power changes are the gifted people because they would speak against what creates worse situations and is unjust. Killed first because the reasoning and care can bring out the best in others and unite them. Taken from the gene pool permanently, it is/was such a loss to humanity. Reason enough to focus on building one’s own group of loved ones to fight for, rather than dying for people who never cared. It is so harsh, but in the end all of the NTs look after themselves first, and do better for it. It’s ugly, but is the reality of the majority. It’s not even personal.
It's been suggested to me a few different times during the course of my life and frankly I feel like I don't even want to go there. For some reason, even thinking about it causes me a tremendous amount of anxiety to the point I almost don't want to think about why it does. At this point, I don't even know where or from whom to seek assistance on this because I fear a wild goose chase ensuing. Thank you for covering what to do if there's a feeling of unsafety with the exploration of one's situation.
I think there is a danger of narcissism and unproductive self-absorption in all of this - a propensity for worshipping potential over accomplishment. People who can should do and let their work products stand as testimony to any qualities of mind may underly the fruits of their labor.
This is a terribly reductive and ignorant summation. No one is worshipping anything. Denying some gifted folks need extra support is extremely ableist and completely misses the entire point of this helpful video.
@@busybee2212agree. It speaks of growth mindset and also let's us be aware of places to grow. "Reclaim ".
I agree @scottjackson163. I think one of the purposes of this framework is self acceptance about a diminishing of shame-I would say this is ‘early stages’ work around this -self acceptance is really the key but my mind while listening to this was arguing with the interviewee….”what about the world of education and work which is output oriented “ it wasn’t for me . Gifted adults need to renavigate the world with this knowledge to both self advocate but also to be productive , thrive and meet responsibilities
The reason why so many gifted people don’t turn potential into accomplishment is because of comments like yours, which only add to gifted trauma. Gifted people are a special needs group, not a bunch of narcissists.
This is some stunning stuff. Virtuosity and the addiction to the thrill of the high wire act - a theme that resonates deeply with me. Across my life, I see peaks and troughs plotted as a sine wave across time, scabrous behavior trending to bathos followed by prodigious spikes in performance, spikes that occasionally border on the fictional. Example: I spent a fair portion of my high school years attending rock concerts, riding a motorcycle (at age 14 and without a license), living shacked up with my girlfriend, and paying little attention to my academic work. I was fortunate to get into college, at all, yet three years from my 18th birthday, I had a graduate degree from Stanford University and I had been accepted into law school. Somewhere along the way, I took (under timed, proctor-supervised conditions) the Terman Concept Mastery Test (form T) and I scored above the 99.9th percentile of the general population. I flunked out of law school, then earned a M.S. in Information & Telecommunication Systems from Johns Hopkins University.
This is the best information I’ve ever heard for understanding my life and experiences.
I agree with the foolishness inherent in the term “overachiever.” The word implies that there is a level of achievement beyond which an individual should not go - a ridiculous thought.
In what precisely does giftedness consist if this special quality does not feel like anything?
What a great conference ! Only parents like me understood what is to have a gifted child. I could write a great book now that my son is 32. Its been a great adventure.!
No one ever said that about giftedness to mii, the "I"s that few see in Mii, or you. Thanks for stating your age too, by the way, for it gives me joy to see my elders so smart, articulate, lucid and intelligent. My family all looked like crap, seemed like they were unhealthy and old by my age yet I am in my most fit, best condition in my life after a life of hell as a kid. Your work has helped me understand who I am and why I never fit. After nearly 20 years of creating Salvage, Texas, a paradise manifested from an industrial waste dump where no life existed without thorn or poison in it. You help mii understand who I am as a human body, communicating with my spirit, Wubtron in Wibblry, and the Book of Wibblry and Wub, the story of how suicide leads to a life of service once given the purpose and meaning that would get mii through Hell. Before that, I had no reason to stay alive. Apparently, I was gifted across the entire spectrum yet never looked into this realm of science or your work. I did not have time while I did all the other things, workaholic on steroids, a serial entrepreneur but at the cost of all personal relationships due to the armor I put on in my youth of being beaten, bullied, and an outcast, crippled physically, emotionally, and still, I survived. I feel I have thrived, but it took 60 years to reach this point. The adulthood, at this end when wii mature at 66-78 is to understand who I became after going through Hell. I am thrilled with my life but had to understand, to remember that I chose to come into existence, with a purpose, a goal, a job to do, and after my son passed away, prophesized with my denying God could predict and make something happen 50 years away. Once it was proven, with the loss of my son, myself as that "I" was forced into the metamorphosis that had to follow. 17 years of social distancing has paid off well.
While I am just reaching my peak, at 68 I am thrilled to listen to your lectures and understand why my life has been spent outside the realm of the people I know. Thank you for your work and lectures as they have helped me understand who and why I have been the many "I"s it took to form the Mii I have become and love after decades of self destruction. While I may not fit in with the world, I also have no desire to do so except to offer what I have found through my creations, Tiny Texas Houses was one of the businesses, like Salvage, Texas, quantum chapters written into a Quantum Story that will be the entangling path for others to learn and understand how to communicate this spirit in body to the world, as well as use the powers wii have to alter the future and form the millennium of Peace and Prosperity that Wii came to create. Can Wii create that World Union of Beings that can communicate cosmic wide, be integrated at last into the bigger cosmic society. Most do not believe this is coming, but I do. Thanks again. This must be understood for mankind to make the next step. Kudos to your works.
If I can meet my expectations then I will have done something great for I rarely achieve what I want, but aiming high lets me out perform anyone I know. It is the belief that I can do what others do not dare try that allows me to excel. It is our belief system, or ability to give all wii have to make what wii want to manifest happen. Focus, willingness to sacrifice all else to succeed... but that means the ability to detach from people. Reasoning is a key to this, but so it the ability to focus, to maintain that focus, and to act. Acting is the key to proving the tools can produce results, Having the tools but not the ambition or desire to be successful is nothing, but the desire to do... to act upon that abstract visualization ability is to change reality, to alter the future by our acts. Seeing what is possible, that abstract reasoning ability is a key, I agree. Overcoming the fear of failure and realizing that failure is a process that takes us to success is a huge aspect of continued growth in our giftedness... unhampered by the people around them, potential can grow with time.
What a great message. Thank you!
9:43 You ‘TRY to be a human person’?! Are you a robot? An alien? A plant? Are you mentally unwell? Or just rude?
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32:17 Existential depression and moral traumas can be treated with medication? It’s just a brain juices imbalance. That explanation is a sign of professional stupidity at its finest. And ugly character with its more or less spiritual laziness and cowardice.
Great episode. The individualized profile to unlock one's own unique gifts! yes! Thats what I'm talking about. In Jeet Kune Do, a kind of open source martial art, set into motion by Bruce Lee, is all about tapping into one's own vitality. Such a tapping into is incomparable and thus it can never be cause for self centered fear, but rather, a complete negation, in favor of wholeness. Also, about the ability or the capacity to tap into one's foundational sense of attention- it too can be benefited by indvidualized approach. Tools like AI and VR will drastically cut the time between learning and application for many subject matters, so more energy and time can be dedicated to fostering intimacy with oneself through the student/teacher connection.
Very informative program
I'm new to the subject and Julie's book is right on time, preordered on Audible. It's 11 hours of content!
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This is Mark Hess. My goodness, how things (and my opinion!) have changed. I am tempted to take this down, but I want to leave it her for posterity. This is "where I was" at the opening of the pandemic. I have been reading much these past few years about how devastating online lives can be for our kids--especially kids who already feel "othered" for one reason or another, especially for kids who already experience trauma and disconnect. I still believe our virtual world holds many opportunities; however, let's take care of our kids and be cautious.
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