Those tips sre beautiful! And the string groove location is inspired! 👍
@meadowlarkadventuregear3 күн бұрын
@@ianbruce6515 cutting the original tips off was a bit disarming, but they did turn out pretty nice!
@MrPAHearn5 күн бұрын
Very informative video! Can you share the overall dimensions of the handle, maximum before all the shaping? This looks like ipe and maple (?) so I know it's hard and strong...I'm trying to get a better feel for how much to remove without weakening it too much. Thanks.
@philipfairweather34935 күн бұрын
Your craftsmans/ship is sailing from inspirational winds, great work . Tripping again.
@meadowlarkadventuregear3 күн бұрын
Thank you for the kind words!!!
@benpriestman40155 күн бұрын
Nothing short of stunning work. Have you ever considered heat treating the bamboo? I find it totally transforms the bamboo and helps eliminate limb set whilst also increasing draw weight and snappiness of the bow.
@meadowlarkadventuregear3 күн бұрын
I’ve been in the habit of heat treating the belly lam ahead of construction. I’ve heat treated bamboo bellies during the tillering stage and found some lamination problems - mainly the edges of the bamboo thinning and curling up at the glue line where the heat treat was performed.
@musaadfelton39095 күн бұрын
That bow seems nice and snappy. So the string follow is not really taking away that much speed from the bow.
@meadowlarkadventuregear5 күн бұрын
String follow in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing - there are a host of bows that have deflex purposely put in them as part of the design. It’s compression that robs the bow of cast - that having been said, bamboo and wood do not behave the same. I’m still learning how to deal with bamboo in belly applications because the compression properties are very different from that of any wood I have encountered. Getting there though!
@musaadfelton39095 күн бұрын
@@meadowlarkadventuregear oh I see. Makes sense yes. I'm here for all of it 🙂 I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and findings as you go along with your builds. So in this case. With regards to the poundage. How do you think the bamboo is holding up in compression strength after all of your builds so far? Why does those Japanese bows hold up so well and for years and they use the same method to make bows. Back and belly with a core laminate? I wonder if it's because they build longer bows so the strain on the bamboo is not that much 🤔
@Punkysimpa6 күн бұрын
Amazing build! Beautiful bow!!!!
@meadowlarkadventuregear3 күн бұрын
Thank you for following along!
@sierraridgereaper6 күн бұрын
That turned out beautiful... super nice work...😉
@meadowlarkadventuregear3 күн бұрын
Thank you!!!
@DironMc6 күн бұрын
Beautiful!!!! I wanna touch It😍😍😍😍😍 Haha. Seeing your work on this bow had been a motivational inspiration. Thanks alot!!!!
@meadowlarkadventuregear3 күн бұрын
Thank you for following along! And she does feel good in the hand! lol!
@rushchaser6 күн бұрын
That is another beautiful build! Great job as always!
@meadowlarkadventuregear3 күн бұрын
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
@benspeedschannel8886 күн бұрын
What a beautiful bow, you’ve done an incredible job! You’re a true craftsman 😎
@meadowlarkadventuregear3 күн бұрын
@@benspeedschannel888 Thank you for watching!
@bienyamientoefy19236 күн бұрын
Greetings sir and everyone.fantastic.sir you the bamboo master.. I can't keep up with any other good words admiring you bow buildingbsir
@meadowlarkadventuregear3 күн бұрын
@@bienyamientoefy1923 Thank you my friend!
@samfulks48966 күн бұрын
Appreciate all you do. Thanks for through explanations . See you soon
@meadowlarkadventuregear3 күн бұрын
@@samfulks4896 Thanks for following along!
@Mwwright7913 күн бұрын
This style of bow is very interesting to me. Never thought of building such a bow until watching these videos of yours. Would there be a problem or would this benefit by using a thin compression strong wood lam for the belly such as osage or ipe?
@meadowlarkadventuregear13 күн бұрын
@@Mwwright79 let me start by saying, thank you for watching and for your feedback! Then I’d say that anything is possible, but my experience tells me that the working limb is way too short, and for that matter, too narrow for even the most compression resistant wood to survive let alone provide enough spring to match this bow’s current performance… if looking for something better in compression, then I’d say horn is the next logical natural material…
@Mwwright7912 күн бұрын
@@meadowlarkadventuregear That makes sense. Thank you!
@Mwwright7916 күн бұрын
What bandsaw blade do you find best for the backings. I got an old 14” delta specifically for roughing out staves and almost exclusively run a Timberwolf resaw blade, but that may be too aggressive for this type of work.
@meadowlarkadventuregear16 күн бұрын
@@Mwwright79 I’m running Olsen 3/8” 6 tpi typically. I’ve also run a Timberwolf 1/2” 4 tpi , but as you suspect it did rip up some bamboo on the long, flat surface cuts. I still used that blade for several bows and backings just cut well outside my pencil lines lol!
@Mwwright7916 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for the information you provide on these videos. I have not found a better source for information on laminated bow construction using natural materials!
@meadowlarkadventuregear16 күн бұрын
@@Mwwright79 Thank you for watching! And for the kind words…
@rushchaser16 күн бұрын
That’s really nice! Great job as always!
@meadowlarkadventuregear16 күн бұрын
@@rushchaser Thank you!
@stephenballard375916 күн бұрын
Beautiful bow! Surprising how little working limb you get away with.
@meadowlarkadventuregear16 күн бұрын
@@stephenballard3759 yes… the working limb is pretty short. It’s why I chose Bamboo for the belly. It may compress, but it won’t give up. Most wooden applications would fail if not very wide and quite thin. I prefer a more sleek design.
@superdav9516 күн бұрын
Great explanation. I may have to experiment on this myself. thanks for this
@meadowlarkadventuregear15 күн бұрын
@@superdav95 Thank you for watching!!!
@musaadfelton390916 күн бұрын
Awesome. I'm learning a lot from this
@meadowlarkadventuregear16 күн бұрын
@@musaadfelton3909 so glad I can help you along your way!
@shanek658216 күн бұрын
What wood or woods are the best for not taking much compression? Thanks
@meadowlarkadventuregear16 күн бұрын
@@shanek6582 if it’s not taking compression, it’s breaking - or at a minimum crushing and taking compression fractures. Most wood will certainly fail in place of bamboo in this design of build. The few that would not would easily exceed the amount of set that the bamboo is exhibiting and have terrible cast. To match bamboo, the wooden counterpart would have to be much wider to withstand the strain - so much so that the design would become cumbersome and unattractive in my eyes. The compression that the bamboo is taking is not a bad quality, just one that needs to be managed properly to elevate the material to premier performance. To answer your question though, good compression woods include: Eastern Red Cedar, black cherry, hickory, ipe, yew, Osage and a host of others that I’m sure just aren’t coming to mind right now.
@DironMc17 күн бұрын
Awesome! Love how u put together both the old version & the new version. Thanks for the inspiration 😊
@meadowlarkadventuregear16 күн бұрын
@@DironMc Thank you! Hope you’re able to live out that inspiration soon!
@christophertracey720117 күн бұрын
Just awesome you make it look easy
@meadowlarkadventuregear16 күн бұрын
@@christophertracey7201 looks can certainly be deceiving lol! Thanks for watching!
@bienyamientoefy192317 күн бұрын
Greetings to you sir and everyone.exellent results and what a good poundage.nowadays watching you accomplishing your work,I just sit and smile and admire your bow building
@meadowlarkadventuregear16 күн бұрын
@@bienyamientoefy1923 Thank you Bienyamien! I’ve very much admired the work that you’ve shared with me! Thank you for your continued encouragement!
@user-zg1zl9xx4t17 күн бұрын
Hey Jody, why not put something different on the belly that’s good in compression I haven’t been doing a really long time but I’ve built a lot of bowsin the short time I’ve been doing it if you know, bamboo is bad in compression why use it on the belly? I know you must have a reason for it. Just wondering have a good day. Thanks for Sharon.
@stephenballard375916 күн бұрын
I have found bamboo to be just fine in compression. Both bamboo flooring and whole bamboo. It does depend somewhat of species, but bamboo bellies have existed, and done very well, in Japanese, Chinese, and some SE Asian bows all along. .
@stephenballard375916 күн бұрын
The fact that it does take more compression is a fair point, but it doesnt FAIL in compression readily. Bamboo flooring, for instance takes a little more set than a comparable weight wood, but refused to fret.
@meadowlarkadventuregear15 күн бұрын
@@user-zg1zl9xx4t very few natural materials are up to the task of a bow like this - horn being the only obvious answer - and I may be taking up experiments in that direction soon, but to be clear - bamboo taking a lot of compression is not a navigating thing. It’s a trade-off for elasticity. Only in the rarest of instances will any piece of wood survive the compression demands of this design and even then, it would only survive - and the bow would likely be a wall-hanger.
@brettgunnells930817 күн бұрын
The Legend does it again!
@meadowlarkadventuregear16 күн бұрын
@@brettgunnells9308 Thank you Brett!!! Seems I have a reputation to uphold! lol!
@BadSinHunter18 күн бұрын
This will help me a lot.. Thanks for taking the logical and practical way of explaining things down to an accurate science thanks!!
@BadSinHunter18 күн бұрын
I am envious of your logic… subscribed!!!
@BadSinHunter18 күн бұрын
Just what I was looking for!!!!….may god bless you.. I have watched your other videos and have came to the conclusion that trial and error have made you the guy I want to listen to.. definitely a fan from now on
@Silver_Semtexagon18 күн бұрын
I really want to get into bowbuilding myself, but being in an apartment with limited tools and access to decent wood poses a challenge... Altough i've had my eyes on making a Penobscot bow for a while now and i'm going to give it an attempt! Also, you earned a new subscriber. Could be fun if you tried making a Penobscot bow aswel!
@meadowlarkadventuregear18 күн бұрын
@@Silver_Semtexagon thank you so much for watching!!! The list of projects is a long one - a Penobscot is on there!
@samfulks489619 күн бұрын
🎉
@christophertracey720119 күн бұрын
Do you think that a boo backed and belly bow you can have less working limb length than a boo backed tri lam?
@philipfairweather349320 күн бұрын
Thanks for the clarification,you explained it perfectly. I will look closer at the bamboo in the future.
@musaadfelton390920 күн бұрын
I'm going to watch shortly 😁😁😁😁 can't wait. I started with my bow and started cutting the wood and stuff. Im going to take my time. Not rushing this build. But I'm going to wait until this series is done to learn from it.
@hillbilly4christ63821 күн бұрын
Something that occurred to me the other day, hemp is being formed into structural members used for flooring and other purposes. They are able to orient the grain longitudinally and they use a soy based formula as a binder. It appears to be very hard. You hear so many things about the strength of hemp fibers. I was wondering if you have any experience with the material and if it would be a good “natural” component for a bow? It is a composite construction method to produce the various products.
@meadowlarkadventuregear20 күн бұрын
@@hillbilly4christ638 before your comment, I had no idea that the product you described even existed - so I did a little research… Hempwood is the commercial manufacturer of the product you are describing. I found that the thinnest working veneer that they recommend is .16” which is pretty thick in my world… Additionally, they recommend that the veneer only be used when applied to a solid or plywood substrate which indicates to me that it is structurally questionable on its own. I did however find a manufacturer of hemp technical fiber - Hempflax, that produces bulk hemp fiber that could be combed out and bound in an epoxy or similar resin to make a strip similar to fiberglass used for bows. This is a process that is a little out of my expertise but may be an excellent topic for my friend @Helmbowman to weigh in on with his knowledge of producing composites for bow making. I have come across a couple bow makers, Grozer being the most notable, that is using a “biocomposite” in the construction of some of their bows, but there is little information that would suggest that they use a hemp composite in their backings or belly materials. You bring up a fascinating twist on a natural material that could very well be a new frontier in bow construction… it will be interesting to see where it goes over time. Thank you for the question!
@hillbilly4christ63817 күн бұрын
@@meadowlarkadventuregearthank you for the reply. Now I am thinking on terms of sinew. I wonder how the hemp fibers compare to sinew in strength. Certainly the substance must have some elasticity, which could be found in the bonding agent perhaps. So I am curious if it would serve as a backing material, or could be wound around areas of the bow for strength or just aesthetic purposes.
@meadowlarkadventuregear17 күн бұрын
@@hillbilly4christ638 I’ve not heard of hemp being used much for backing… as I recall - it is stronger and has lower stretch than flax (linen) which is stronger than fiberglass so… It makes an incredible bow string..!
@shanek658222 күн бұрын
Idk what state you’re in but I cut a big straight mulberry tree down a few years ago and split into staves, I’ve made a couple self bows from it and it’s amazing how much flex it has. I made a 56” bow that I pull to a 27” draw! You’re more than welcome to some for free but I live in East Tennessee.
@philipfairweather349322 күн бұрын
Your planning is inspiring, what if you made the bamboo nodes glued up in a chain centered link front to back? Just thinking too .
@meadowlarkadventuregear22 күн бұрын
@@philipfairweather3493 Thank you for following along! Do you mean something like staggering the nodes on the back and the belly? Truthfully, once you take material off of the belly, I’m not sure if it matters or not so long as the parts were pre-tillered before assembly. I cut out the part of the video that explained the node orientation, but now that you bring it up, keep an eye out. I’ll post up a shorty with the explanation of how and why I lined up the bamboo nodes the way I did.
@RedmanOutdoors36622 күн бұрын
Looking good 😊👍
@meadowlarkadventuregear22 күн бұрын
@@RedmanOutdoors366 Thank you! I appreciate the view time!!!
@nadavyasharhochman391323 күн бұрын
I really like the build! personaly I'd use the bamboo for the core, I dont like tillering bamboo but if it works for you thats awsome.
@meadowlarkadventuregear22 күн бұрын
@@nadavyasharhochman3913 I don’t particularly care for tillering bamboo over wood either - especially considering the uneven surface of bamboo trying to confuse the eye, but in the instance of these pretty highly stressed bows, I trust that the bamboo will stay together where it’s wooden counterparts would likely fail.
@stephanwieler143723 күн бұрын
I can't wait for it to be next week. Very nice to see you at work. :)
@meadowlarkadventuregear22 күн бұрын
@@stephanwieler1437 Thank you for following along!!! Pretty sure at this point that next week will not disappoint 🙂
@stephanwieler143721 күн бұрын
@@meadowlarkadventuregear I am sure, too. :)
@Helmbowman23 күн бұрын
Looks promising! My favorite design for sure!
@meadowlarkadventuregear22 күн бұрын
@@Helmbowman Thank you! I’m loving this design too! Already seeing more things that I want to refine as I try to perfect it over time.
@Helmbowman22 күн бұрын
@@meadowlarkadventuregear You got me with that instagram post 😂 im glad its just a string that breaks! 😅
@meadowlarkadventuregear22 күн бұрын
@@Helmbowman really wish I had my camera on just a few more seconds!!! That bow hopped right off the workbench! Woke me up for sure lol!!!
@musaadfelton390923 күн бұрын
If i may ask. If you say point 9 inches. Do you perhaps know how much that is in mm? Sorry we dont use inches here so its a bit confusing because when i use google to convert 0.9 inches to mm, it is way too thick to be that core lam. Lol im so confused with regards to measurements thats under an inch.. or when you say point 24 inches. Do you mean 0.024 inches
@meadowlarkadventuregear22 күн бұрын
@@musaadfelton3909you’re right, .9” would be way too thick for any core lam. I may have misspoke in the video, it’s .09” thick which is just over 2mm. Thank you for the head’s up!
@musaadfelton390923 күн бұрын
Awesome 😁 so I guess this answers the difference between a back and belly bow with a core and without the core. I see the bow kept its recurved shape nicely after the glue up. I don't have a band saw. I'm going to try and make a jigsaw table to cut a nice thin core strip. The only wood I have for a core is meranti. Wood here in my country is very expensive and very scarce to get proper wood because we don't really have wood construction here. It's mostly brick and concrete construction. Most places just sell pine. So I see the meranti seems bad under compression because by just hand bending it, it seems to have some set after just bending it a few times. Once I cut the meranti In a thin strip. I will experiment and see how well it bends and then maybe the bamboo will give it strength as a belly and a back. Maybe the bamboo will take all the compression forces. I will see how it goes. Thank you👍
@meadowlarkadventuregear22 күн бұрын
@@musaadfelton3909 unless the meranti is particularly weak in shear strength, you should be just fine so long as you keep it real thin like around an 1/8th inch or less (3mm) your bamboo back and belly will be handling all of the tension and compression load. Good luck with your build!
@musaadfelton390922 күн бұрын
@@meadowlarkadventuregear thank you for the advice. Yes I will try to get the meranti wood to that thickness and then just test and see how's the elasticity at that thickness. If it seems too brittle then I will rather leave out the core wood and then just go ahead with a bamboo back and belly. I will just feel my way through the process. Thank you for the advice. Also thank you for giving the mm measurement 😁😅👍
@markboucher744123 күн бұрын
Incredible build! Do you get much sleep at night? I don't have enough years left in my life to get to this level of bow building but certainly the details and principals can be applied to most bow building projects. Thank you for this excellent presentation.
@meadowlarkadventuregear22 күн бұрын
@@markboucher7441 lol!!! I don’t get nearly as much time to devote to bow building as I would like! My list of projects easily exceeds the time to do them all!!! Thank you for watching - and hopefully the content can save you a few years of efforts, at least that’s my hope!
@samfulks489624 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video.
@meadowlarkadventuregear22 күн бұрын
@@samfulks4896 Thank you for your time and attention!
@christophertracey720124 күн бұрын
Very nice design can't wait for the end result
@meadowlarkadventuregear22 күн бұрын
@@christophertracey7201 me neither! Hopefully, I’ll have her all tillered up on my next day off! One of these days earning money won’t get in the way of making bows lol!!! Thank you for watching!!!
@DironMc24 күн бұрын
Awesome glue up! Were u using EA40 ?
@hartmutkleinjung939923 күн бұрын
Yes, he said so during the Video.
@meadowlarkadventuregear22 күн бұрын
@@DironMc thank you! And yes, EA40 was the glue of choice here. Need to be able to rely on any gaps being filled without compromising the integrity of the bow. Thankfully, no major gapping issues in the finished blank.
@knolltop31424 күн бұрын
Good luck with tiller!
@meadowlarkadventuregear22 күн бұрын
@@knolltop314 Thank you! She’s coming along!
@Timelesstere24 күн бұрын
it's a thing of beauty
@meadowlarkadventuregear22 күн бұрын
@@Timelesstere Thank you! Putting a little more thought and attention into this one than the first one which was entirely experimental.
@benspeedschannel88824 күн бұрын
I can’t wait to see the end result 😎
@meadowlarkadventuregear22 күн бұрын
@@benspeedschannel888 Thank you for watching!!! So far, I think the final results are going to be pretty exciting!
@musaadfelton390927 күн бұрын
These thin bamboo slats would be amazing to make a fibreglass back and fibreglass belly bow with two bamboo thin slats as a core. It would make it so light and so flexible that it would be very quick and very efficient. I will share the link to Daves video in witch he built a modern day bow like this. Maybe as a bowyer you would enjoy watching his video. I think you probably have seen his video before: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aqNq0syYoKngk7g.htmlsi=rMU4foSeKv-RjXq9 Here is another video where he collaborated with Opa from Opa bows : kzread.info/dash/bejne/n2mOt6ZxgNyxcbg.htmlsi=J3xFbab0-ehVuFIz
@meadowlarkadventuregear27 күн бұрын
@@musaadfelton3909 you’re right in that I have seen these videos before. While I trust that I could emulate the build rather easily, there are a few more nuances in those builds than meets the eye. Dave makes some amazing shooting machines, but I struggle with the concept of relying on the epoxy to fill voids at riser and siyah transitions. That reason is why I’ll use a longer riser section to accommodate a feathered taper at the limb transition - and siyahs for that matter. As for fiberglass builds, I’m planning to do one soon as a “good to know and not need than need and not know” kind of video. All of the protective gear needed for fiberglass work (that doesn’t work anyway) is a huge detractor for me.
@musaadfelton390927 күн бұрын
@@meadowlarkadventuregear Sir you are amazing at what you do. I promise I have searched so long for information on what you do with bamboo but i could not find anything with such detail as you give us. Thank you so much. I've learned so much watching your work. And yes I agree. Natural materials are better. Fibreglass is a pain to work with because of the gibres getting into lungs and on the skin and on the clothing. It's just irritating. I tried and I had fibreglass stucked to the inside of my boots for months. I tried washing them out but for some reason it got out the inside of my long boots I had on and every time I would wear the boots, the fibreglass would scratch against my legs. So it's irritating, but I like what you said Sir, with regards to a "good to know and not need", because every bit of knowledge a person gains, just helps to get to a better build. By using all the knowledge and every aspect of different builds and different designs and different materials. It can help to design an efficient bow. So I agree one hundred percent. I am subscribed and follow along. Lol I look forward to new content but even if new videos takes a while to be uploaded. The past videos on the channel is so beneficial. When I'm busy with my project. I go back to these videos just to check on some details that I need help with. So it's very helpful
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Those tips sre beautiful! And the string groove location is inspired! 👍
@@ianbruce6515 cutting the original tips off was a bit disarming, but they did turn out pretty nice!
Very informative video! Can you share the overall dimensions of the handle, maximum before all the shaping? This looks like ipe and maple (?) so I know it's hard and strong...I'm trying to get a better feel for how much to remove without weakening it too much. Thanks.
Your craftsmans/ship is sailing from inspirational winds, great work . Tripping again.
Thank you for the kind words!!!
Nothing short of stunning work. Have you ever considered heat treating the bamboo? I find it totally transforms the bamboo and helps eliminate limb set whilst also increasing draw weight and snappiness of the bow.
I’ve been in the habit of heat treating the belly lam ahead of construction. I’ve heat treated bamboo bellies during the tillering stage and found some lamination problems - mainly the edges of the bamboo thinning and curling up at the glue line where the heat treat was performed.
That bow seems nice and snappy. So the string follow is not really taking away that much speed from the bow.
String follow in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing - there are a host of bows that have deflex purposely put in them as part of the design. It’s compression that robs the bow of cast - that having been said, bamboo and wood do not behave the same. I’m still learning how to deal with bamboo in belly applications because the compression properties are very different from that of any wood I have encountered. Getting there though!
@@meadowlarkadventuregear oh I see. Makes sense yes. I'm here for all of it 🙂 I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and findings as you go along with your builds. So in this case. With regards to the poundage. How do you think the bamboo is holding up in compression strength after all of your builds so far? Why does those Japanese bows hold up so well and for years and they use the same method to make bows. Back and belly with a core laminate? I wonder if it's because they build longer bows so the strain on the bamboo is not that much 🤔
Amazing build! Beautiful bow!!!!
Thank you for following along!
That turned out beautiful... super nice work...😉
Thank you!!!
Beautiful!!!! I wanna touch It😍😍😍😍😍 Haha. Seeing your work on this bow had been a motivational inspiration. Thanks alot!!!!
Thank you for following along! And she does feel good in the hand! lol!
That is another beautiful build! Great job as always!
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
What a beautiful bow, you’ve done an incredible job! You’re a true craftsman 😎
@@benspeedschannel888 Thank you for watching!
Greetings sir and everyone.fantastic.sir you the bamboo master.. I can't keep up with any other good words admiring you bow buildingbsir
@@bienyamientoefy1923 Thank you my friend!
Appreciate all you do. Thanks for through explanations . See you soon
@@samfulks4896 Thanks for following along!
This style of bow is very interesting to me. Never thought of building such a bow until watching these videos of yours. Would there be a problem or would this benefit by using a thin compression strong wood lam for the belly such as osage or ipe?
@@Mwwright79 let me start by saying, thank you for watching and for your feedback! Then I’d say that anything is possible, but my experience tells me that the working limb is way too short, and for that matter, too narrow for even the most compression resistant wood to survive let alone provide enough spring to match this bow’s current performance… if looking for something better in compression, then I’d say horn is the next logical natural material…
@@meadowlarkadventuregear That makes sense. Thank you!
What bandsaw blade do you find best for the backings. I got an old 14” delta specifically for roughing out staves and almost exclusively run a Timberwolf resaw blade, but that may be too aggressive for this type of work.
@@Mwwright79 I’m running Olsen 3/8” 6 tpi typically. I’ve also run a Timberwolf 1/2” 4 tpi , but as you suspect it did rip up some bamboo on the long, flat surface cuts. I still used that blade for several bows and backings just cut well outside my pencil lines lol!
Thank you so much for the information you provide on these videos. I have not found a better source for information on laminated bow construction using natural materials!
@@Mwwright79 Thank you for watching! And for the kind words…
That’s really nice! Great job as always!
@@rushchaser Thank you!
Beautiful bow! Surprising how little working limb you get away with.
@@stephenballard3759 yes… the working limb is pretty short. It’s why I chose Bamboo for the belly. It may compress, but it won’t give up. Most wooden applications would fail if not very wide and quite thin. I prefer a more sleek design.
Great explanation. I may have to experiment on this myself. thanks for this
@@superdav95 Thank you for watching!!!
Awesome. I'm learning a lot from this
@@musaadfelton3909 so glad I can help you along your way!
What wood or woods are the best for not taking much compression? Thanks
@@shanek6582 if it’s not taking compression, it’s breaking - or at a minimum crushing and taking compression fractures. Most wood will certainly fail in place of bamboo in this design of build. The few that would not would easily exceed the amount of set that the bamboo is exhibiting and have terrible cast. To match bamboo, the wooden counterpart would have to be much wider to withstand the strain - so much so that the design would become cumbersome and unattractive in my eyes. The compression that the bamboo is taking is not a bad quality, just one that needs to be managed properly to elevate the material to premier performance. To answer your question though, good compression woods include: Eastern Red Cedar, black cherry, hickory, ipe, yew, Osage and a host of others that I’m sure just aren’t coming to mind right now.
Awesome! Love how u put together both the old version & the new version. Thanks for the inspiration 😊
@@DironMc Thank you! Hope you’re able to live out that inspiration soon!
Just awesome you make it look easy
@@christophertracey7201 looks can certainly be deceiving lol! Thanks for watching!
Greetings to you sir and everyone.exellent results and what a good poundage.nowadays watching you accomplishing your work,I just sit and smile and admire your bow building
@@bienyamientoefy1923 Thank you Bienyamien! I’ve very much admired the work that you’ve shared with me! Thank you for your continued encouragement!
Hey Jody, why not put something different on the belly that’s good in compression I haven’t been doing a really long time but I’ve built a lot of bowsin the short time I’ve been doing it if you know, bamboo is bad in compression why use it on the belly? I know you must have a reason for it. Just wondering have a good day. Thanks for Sharon.
I have found bamboo to be just fine in compression. Both bamboo flooring and whole bamboo. It does depend somewhat of species, but bamboo bellies have existed, and done very well, in Japanese, Chinese, and some SE Asian bows all along. .
The fact that it does take more compression is a fair point, but it doesnt FAIL in compression readily. Bamboo flooring, for instance takes a little more set than a comparable weight wood, but refused to fret.
@@user-zg1zl9xx4t very few natural materials are up to the task of a bow like this - horn being the only obvious answer - and I may be taking up experiments in that direction soon, but to be clear - bamboo taking a lot of compression is not a navigating thing. It’s a trade-off for elasticity. Only in the rarest of instances will any piece of wood survive the compression demands of this design and even then, it would only survive - and the bow would likely be a wall-hanger.
The Legend does it again!
@@brettgunnells9308 Thank you Brett!!! Seems I have a reputation to uphold! lol!
This will help me a lot.. Thanks for taking the logical and practical way of explaining things down to an accurate science thanks!!
I am envious of your logic… subscribed!!!
Just what I was looking for!!!!….may god bless you.. I have watched your other videos and have came to the conclusion that trial and error have made you the guy I want to listen to.. definitely a fan from now on
I really want to get into bowbuilding myself, but being in an apartment with limited tools and access to decent wood poses a challenge... Altough i've had my eyes on making a Penobscot bow for a while now and i'm going to give it an attempt! Also, you earned a new subscriber. Could be fun if you tried making a Penobscot bow aswel!
@@Silver_Semtexagon thank you so much for watching!!! The list of projects is a long one - a Penobscot is on there!
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Do you think that a boo backed and belly bow you can have less working limb length than a boo backed tri lam?
Thanks for the clarification,you explained it perfectly. I will look closer at the bamboo in the future.
I'm going to watch shortly 😁😁😁😁 can't wait. I started with my bow and started cutting the wood and stuff. Im going to take my time. Not rushing this build. But I'm going to wait until this series is done to learn from it.
Something that occurred to me the other day, hemp is being formed into structural members used for flooring and other purposes. They are able to orient the grain longitudinally and they use a soy based formula as a binder. It appears to be very hard. You hear so many things about the strength of hemp fibers. I was wondering if you have any experience with the material and if it would be a good “natural” component for a bow? It is a composite construction method to produce the various products.
@@hillbilly4christ638 before your comment, I had no idea that the product you described even existed - so I did a little research… Hempwood is the commercial manufacturer of the product you are describing. I found that the thinnest working veneer that they recommend is .16” which is pretty thick in my world… Additionally, they recommend that the veneer only be used when applied to a solid or plywood substrate which indicates to me that it is structurally questionable on its own. I did however find a manufacturer of hemp technical fiber - Hempflax, that produces bulk hemp fiber that could be combed out and bound in an epoxy or similar resin to make a strip similar to fiberglass used for bows. This is a process that is a little out of my expertise but may be an excellent topic for my friend @Helmbowman to weigh in on with his knowledge of producing composites for bow making. I have come across a couple bow makers, Grozer being the most notable, that is using a “biocomposite” in the construction of some of their bows, but there is little information that would suggest that they use a hemp composite in their backings or belly materials. You bring up a fascinating twist on a natural material that could very well be a new frontier in bow construction… it will be interesting to see where it goes over time. Thank you for the question!
@@meadowlarkadventuregearthank you for the reply. Now I am thinking on terms of sinew. I wonder how the hemp fibers compare to sinew in strength. Certainly the substance must have some elasticity, which could be found in the bonding agent perhaps. So I am curious if it would serve as a backing material, or could be wound around areas of the bow for strength or just aesthetic purposes.
@@hillbilly4christ638 I’ve not heard of hemp being used much for backing… as I recall - it is stronger and has lower stretch than flax (linen) which is stronger than fiberglass so… It makes an incredible bow string..!
Idk what state you’re in but I cut a big straight mulberry tree down a few years ago and split into staves, I’ve made a couple self bows from it and it’s amazing how much flex it has. I made a 56” bow that I pull to a 27” draw! You’re more than welcome to some for free but I live in East Tennessee.
Your planning is inspiring, what if you made the bamboo nodes glued up in a chain centered link front to back? Just thinking too .
@@philipfairweather3493 Thank you for following along! Do you mean something like staggering the nodes on the back and the belly? Truthfully, once you take material off of the belly, I’m not sure if it matters or not so long as the parts were pre-tillered before assembly. I cut out the part of the video that explained the node orientation, but now that you bring it up, keep an eye out. I’ll post up a shorty with the explanation of how and why I lined up the bamboo nodes the way I did.
Looking good 😊👍
@@RedmanOutdoors366 Thank you! I appreciate the view time!!!
I really like the build! personaly I'd use the bamboo for the core, I dont like tillering bamboo but if it works for you thats awsome.
@@nadavyasharhochman3913 I don’t particularly care for tillering bamboo over wood either - especially considering the uneven surface of bamboo trying to confuse the eye, but in the instance of these pretty highly stressed bows, I trust that the bamboo will stay together where it’s wooden counterparts would likely fail.
I can't wait for it to be next week. Very nice to see you at work. :)
@@stephanwieler1437 Thank you for following along!!! Pretty sure at this point that next week will not disappoint 🙂
@@meadowlarkadventuregear I am sure, too. :)
Looks promising! My favorite design for sure!
@@Helmbowman Thank you! I’m loving this design too! Already seeing more things that I want to refine as I try to perfect it over time.
@@meadowlarkadventuregear You got me with that instagram post 😂 im glad its just a string that breaks! 😅
@@Helmbowman really wish I had my camera on just a few more seconds!!! That bow hopped right off the workbench! Woke me up for sure lol!!!
If i may ask. If you say point 9 inches. Do you perhaps know how much that is in mm? Sorry we dont use inches here so its a bit confusing because when i use google to convert 0.9 inches to mm, it is way too thick to be that core lam. Lol im so confused with regards to measurements thats under an inch.. or when you say point 24 inches. Do you mean 0.024 inches
@@musaadfelton3909you’re right, .9” would be way too thick for any core lam. I may have misspoke in the video, it’s .09” thick which is just over 2mm. Thank you for the head’s up!
Awesome 😁 so I guess this answers the difference between a back and belly bow with a core and without the core. I see the bow kept its recurved shape nicely after the glue up. I don't have a band saw. I'm going to try and make a jigsaw table to cut a nice thin core strip. The only wood I have for a core is meranti. Wood here in my country is very expensive and very scarce to get proper wood because we don't really have wood construction here. It's mostly brick and concrete construction. Most places just sell pine. So I see the meranti seems bad under compression because by just hand bending it, it seems to have some set after just bending it a few times. Once I cut the meranti In a thin strip. I will experiment and see how well it bends and then maybe the bamboo will give it strength as a belly and a back. Maybe the bamboo will take all the compression forces. I will see how it goes. Thank you👍
@@musaadfelton3909 unless the meranti is particularly weak in shear strength, you should be just fine so long as you keep it real thin like around an 1/8th inch or less (3mm) your bamboo back and belly will be handling all of the tension and compression load. Good luck with your build!
@@meadowlarkadventuregear thank you for the advice. Yes I will try to get the meranti wood to that thickness and then just test and see how's the elasticity at that thickness. If it seems too brittle then I will rather leave out the core wood and then just go ahead with a bamboo back and belly. I will just feel my way through the process. Thank you for the advice. Also thank you for giving the mm measurement 😁😅👍
Incredible build! Do you get much sleep at night? I don't have enough years left in my life to get to this level of bow building but certainly the details and principals can be applied to most bow building projects. Thank you for this excellent presentation.
@@markboucher7441 lol!!! I don’t get nearly as much time to devote to bow building as I would like! My list of projects easily exceeds the time to do them all!!! Thank you for watching - and hopefully the content can save you a few years of efforts, at least that’s my hope!
Thank you for the video.
@@samfulks4896 Thank you for your time and attention!
Very nice design can't wait for the end result
@@christophertracey7201 me neither! Hopefully, I’ll have her all tillered up on my next day off! One of these days earning money won’t get in the way of making bows lol!!! Thank you for watching!!!
Awesome glue up! Were u using EA40 ?
Yes, he said so during the Video.
@@DironMc thank you! And yes, EA40 was the glue of choice here. Need to be able to rely on any gaps being filled without compromising the integrity of the bow. Thankfully, no major gapping issues in the finished blank.
Good luck with tiller!
@@knolltop314 Thank you! She’s coming along!
it's a thing of beauty
@@Timelesstere Thank you! Putting a little more thought and attention into this one than the first one which was entirely experimental.
I can’t wait to see the end result 😎
@@benspeedschannel888 Thank you for watching!!! So far, I think the final results are going to be pretty exciting!
These thin bamboo slats would be amazing to make a fibreglass back and fibreglass belly bow with two bamboo thin slats as a core. It would make it so light and so flexible that it would be very quick and very efficient. I will share the link to Daves video in witch he built a modern day bow like this. Maybe as a bowyer you would enjoy watching his video. I think you probably have seen his video before: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aqNq0syYoKngk7g.htmlsi=rMU4foSeKv-RjXq9 Here is another video where he collaborated with Opa from Opa bows : kzread.info/dash/bejne/n2mOt6ZxgNyxcbg.htmlsi=J3xFbab0-ehVuFIz
@@musaadfelton3909 you’re right in that I have seen these videos before. While I trust that I could emulate the build rather easily, there are a few more nuances in those builds than meets the eye. Dave makes some amazing shooting machines, but I struggle with the concept of relying on the epoxy to fill voids at riser and siyah transitions. That reason is why I’ll use a longer riser section to accommodate a feathered taper at the limb transition - and siyahs for that matter. As for fiberglass builds, I’m planning to do one soon as a “good to know and not need than need and not know” kind of video. All of the protective gear needed for fiberglass work (that doesn’t work anyway) is a huge detractor for me.
@@meadowlarkadventuregear Sir you are amazing at what you do. I promise I have searched so long for information on what you do with bamboo but i could not find anything with such detail as you give us. Thank you so much. I've learned so much watching your work. And yes I agree. Natural materials are better. Fibreglass is a pain to work with because of the gibres getting into lungs and on the skin and on the clothing. It's just irritating. I tried and I had fibreglass stucked to the inside of my boots for months. I tried washing them out but for some reason it got out the inside of my long boots I had on and every time I would wear the boots, the fibreglass would scratch against my legs. So it's irritating, but I like what you said Sir, with regards to a "good to know and not need", because every bit of knowledge a person gains, just helps to get to a better build. By using all the knowledge and every aspect of different builds and different designs and different materials. It can help to design an efficient bow. So I agree one hundred percent. I am subscribed and follow along. Lol I look forward to new content but even if new videos takes a while to be uploaded. The past videos on the channel is so beneficial. When I'm busy with my project. I go back to these videos just to check on some details that I need help with. So it's very helpful