A lot of ignorance here. Scholars such as late Dr.Gordon Fee (an Adviser in NIV) and Dr. Craig Keener answer all these questions from exegesis from Greek and answers objections. In a word, tounges are not necessarily a "language" but as Acts 2:4 says "as the Spirit gave utterance". Some times the Spirit may give utterance in a language form .(As at Pentecost or as recorded in some rare times by missionaries...but most times not in a language but something only known by God from the human spirit. Many critics have not even read the scholarly works above .
@john13493 күн бұрын
I’d argue His decent to hell shouldn’t be a private discussion! That had to do with proclaiming victory to the fallen angels. To me the removal of that might have been a misunderstanding of what it was about. But I’d love to know more background.
@deej79283 күн бұрын
Excellent interview.
@tehsamjones4 күн бұрын
Fantastic info, thank you Andy
@MsLane614 күн бұрын
What a tremendous honor! The right man is in the chair. Congratulations.
@Jesusistakinghischurchback9 күн бұрын
Ask her this question and most people I’ve meet in your standing you have do you have a friend a relative etc that is gay 90 plus percent people I’ve talked to that agree with it say yes so they don’t have a leg to stand it’s not biblical there plenty of scripture to back that
@Jesusistakinghischurchback9 күн бұрын
Yes it has 100 percent
@Selah11419 күн бұрын
My narc husband turned all three of my children against me. I don't know my grandchildren.
@Selah11419 күн бұрын
NPD comes from childhood abuse. Even getting all you want is a form of abuse - enabling
@kellydalton266314 күн бұрын
I love that you’re going to do what God is calling you to do Dr Clarke, inspite of what the g@vernment says!
@garrysearle278614 күн бұрын
A split is coming ...
@scottcamp926614 күн бұрын
Wonderful news❤
@jimmywilliams787615 күн бұрын
Dr. Miller, will you still teach some classes? I was looking forward to sitting under your tutelage.
@andymilleriii14 күн бұрын
@@jimmywilliams7876 yes! I plan to keep teaching a couple of classes every year. Mainly preaching courses.
@yankeegonesouth497316 күн бұрын
God bless you, Dr Miller! I pray that he will strengthen you in this new position for his glory and grace.
@jonathansmith33620 күн бұрын
Some groups of conservative Mennonites used to, and may still use the lot to seek pastors. They put a piece of paper in a Bible, put several Bibles on the altar, and then have selected candidates come forward and chose a Bible. The one who gets the paper is selected.
@gwedielwch23 күн бұрын
On the London marches - Bishop Wright would actually have found Jewish rabbis walking with other Jews, with Christiansm with Muslims, and with many people of no religious faither - what united us (I am one of the Christians who walked on two of these London marches) - what united us was our attempt to do something to protect the adults and children trapped in Gaza from the terrible suffering and death which is destroying them. These marches are not marches of hate. i watched the great affection expressed towards Jewish people on the marches I was on. The policing was meticulous. The Metropolitan Police Commissioner and his officers have been wonderful. and the marchers have been friendly and appreciative. I do wish that people would not make or repeat untrue statements about other people. In the Gospel of John there is the wonderful passage where Jesus tells his followers that God will send the Holy Spirit to support them - the Spirit of Truth. Lies and deception are very different from God's plan for us. The Commandments handed down to Moses on Sinai say "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour". This is not a trivial commandment. The consequences of spreading untrue allegations can be devastating.
@sheldon399625 күн бұрын
Hi Dr. Andy, I listened to your response to Dr. Mohler’s statement a few weeks ago. The comments section contained a discussion between a student and a PhD regarding women as pastors; the student’s argument was far more persuasive. Certainly there are many women in the Bible that God used for a great variety of purposes, but none were pastors. Junia was not an apostle, but known to the apostles. To assert that women were pastors in the Bible or to assert that Junia was an apostle is to eisegetically interpret the Bible, and quite frankly, to deny the authority of the word of God. History has shown that denominations that ordain women as pastors will become apostate churches, just as the UMC. The GMC will experience the same in due time. History has shown that denominations that ordain women will deny the authority of the Bible. The GMC will experience the same in due time. I was confirmed in the small United Methodist Church just down the road from my home. My ancestors helped build that church. My maternal grandparents and my parents were married in that small church. My mother, brother, and I were confirmed in that church. While I don’t recall too much from my confirmation classes (I suspect many don’t), one lesson was ingrained in my mind by our fresh out of seminary, pastor. He was a young George Whitefield, powerful and passionate sermons, a genuine zeal for God and bringing sinners to salvation. He taught that the word Bible is spelled with three I’s: inspired, inerrant, and infallible; to which I would add two more Is and two As - immutable, invincible, authoritative, and all-sufficient. His high view of scripture and the authority contained therein was conspicuously evident throughout his time with our little church (we would have been happy to have him there until he retired). If the GMC does not adopt a high view of God’s word and the authority contained therein such as written in the Scot’s Confession or the Westminster Confession, the GMC will quickly fall. The progressives and their lord Satan are working fast and furious destroy God’s word. Evolution or are we made in God’s image? Six literal days for creation in Genesis or something else? Moses would have understood six days to be six days as he received the Ten Commandments. How old is the earth? Did the flood really happen? Did God really destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? Universalism? God created sin? Jesus was not God when he was in human form? Sexual immorality doesn’t apply to consenting adults? Abortion as an acceptable form of birth control? The GMC must take a strong, immovable stance regarding the Holy Scriptures first and foremost. If you are to be a delegate, this must be the most important aspect of church doctrine, followed by the immediate elimination of all forms of liberalism. Failure to do these things will result in the GMC serving Satan, dead in their trespasses and sin. Their pastors becoming false teachers as warned in 26 of the 27 books of the New Testament.
@marciadroeger443428 күн бұрын
Oh, an audiobook!!! I pray Jim takes your suggestion seriously!!! Upon my death, I'm ensuring my unsaved daughter gets my copy of his book. Because of my awkward verbal skills and our somewhat estranged relationship, I'm praying she'll read it, realizing what a beautiful soul Rich was and how his messages led me to a healthier place in my healing journey. My daughter is extremely articulate, so I'm grateful I can leave her Jim's book to reflect the depth of my heart captured by Rich's messages of God's unconditional love and seeing people through His eyes, not the denominational lens. Prayerfully, as she reads it, she'll be able to appreciate where I was coming from but couldn't express ...I believe an audio version of the book God could use to permeate her heart thoughts that would allow me to bless her and hopefully enable her to experience Him ...Thank you for the great interview! Please share this with Jim.
@granthodges3012Ай бұрын
Theologians/teachers who deny the role of the nation of Israel in the end times are generally descended theologically from the Roman Catholic church or thereby to the Church of England/Anglican outfits on to the Reformed theologians to the seminaries and out to poison the pews. No serious Bible interpreter can say that a fair reading of Romans 9-11 does not ordain with authority the role of Israel in the last days and God's dominical authority proclaiming that "All Israel will be saved." I would add that theologicans/preachers who hold this idea, especially in seminaries, are probably closet or open Democrats and voted/will vote for Biden and his clown fest of carnality. They treasure "fitting in" with traditional/racist theologies more than God speaking in His Word.
@ephesians_2_8Ай бұрын
I am an Episcopalian, orthodox but not especially conservative and not at all fretful about human sexual diversity, my view is definitely more Prima Scriptura than Sola Scriptura, but I agree with this view of the Bible.
@lloydcrooks712Ай бұрын
Great teaching so rare the talk of sola scripture while being a pentecostal learned the scriptures at Methodist Sunday school
@timclark744Ай бұрын
Andy - do you have references that I can get a hold of for all that fantastic Salvo history?
@andymilleriiiАй бұрын
Anything specific you are looking for?
@timclark744Ай бұрын
@@andymilleriii all good - I shall start with your papers on TSAs ecclesiology and go from there.
@sheldon399625 күн бұрын
Hi Dr. Andy, I listened to your response to Dr. Mohler’s statement a few weeks ago. The comments section contained a discussion between a student and a PhD regarding women as pastors; the student’s argument was far more persuasive. Certainly there are many women in the Bible that God used for a great variety of purposes, but none were pastors. Junia was not an apostle, but known to the apostles. To assert that women were pastors in the Bible or to assert that Junia was an apostle is to eisegetically interpret the Bible, and quite frankly, to deny the authority of the word of God. History has shown that denominations that ordain women as pastors will become apostate churches, just as the UMC. The GMC will experience the same in due time. History has shown that denominations that ordain women will deny the authority of the Bible. The GMC will experience the same in due time. I was confirmed in the small United Methodist Church just down the road from my home. My ancestors helped build that church. My maternal grandparents and my parents were married in that small church. My mother, brother, and I were confirmed in that church. While I don’t recall too much from my confirmation classes (I suspect many don’t), one lesson was ingrained in my mind by our fresh out of seminary, pastor. He was a young George Whitefield, powerful and passionate sermons, a genuine zeal for God and bringing sinners to salvation. He taught that the word Bible is spelled with three I’s: inspired, inerrant, and infallible; to which I would add two more Is and two As - immutable, invincible, authoritative, and all-sufficient. His high view of scripture and the authority contained therein was conspicuously evident throughout his time with our little church (we would have been happy to have him there until he retired). If the GMC does not adopt a high view of God’s word and the authority contained therein such as written in the Scot’s Confession or the Westminster Confession, the GMC will quickly fall. The progressives and their lord Satan are working fast and furious destroy God’s word. Evolution or are we made in God’s image? Six literal days for creation in Genesis or something else? Moses would have understood six days to be six days as he received the Ten Commandments. How old is the earth? Did the flood really happen? Did God really destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? Universalism? God created sin? Jesus was not God when he was in human form? Sexual immorality doesn’t apply to consenting adults? Abortion as an acceptable form of birth control? The GMC must take a strong, immovable stance regarding the Holy Scriptures first and foremost. If you are to be a delegate, this must be the most important aspect of church doctrine, followed by the immediate elimination of all forms of liberalism. Failure to do these things will result in the GMC serving Satan, dead in their trespasses and sin. Their pastors becoming false teachers as warned in 26 of the 27 books of the New Testament.
@KentNazareneАй бұрын
You’re talking about mercy to this demonic Pharisee??
@KentNazareneАй бұрын
What a couple of political knuckleheads.
@BobSmith-lb9ncАй бұрын
Tom needs to read Romans 11.
@yosef6664Ай бұрын
Word salad, with a heresy dressing, topped with a seasoning of allegorical symbolism, and a garnish of private interpretation. 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 ESV - For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw- each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
@kenhart5986Ай бұрын
Excellent interview.
@royhiggins7270Ай бұрын
Abortion is the best salvation for the majority of humanity if Christianity is true. Most Christians agree that an aborted fetus would go to heaven...which would guarantee that they would be saved from eternal conscious suffering in hell! Mark 9:42-48 shows why birth is the worst option for most people. Why do Christians ignore what the bible teaches on hell? If hell is real then abortion is the most humane thing that could ever happen to any potential human being ever! The risk of eternal torture if true will always outweigh bringing any finite life into this world. So how insane is a religion that makes human extinction the best option to human suffering? So the question for forced birth extremists is which is it? Do you honestly believe hell is real or is the bible lying? Are you ignorant to what eternal conscious torture is? Are you in denial that exponentially more people will be tortured for eternity than claim a life in your heaven belief? Or do you just disregard and hate conscious life and don't care about those who will be tortured for eternity? And this flawed thinking by the so called pro-life movement and Christians is what makes them so dangerous and showcases their hypocrisy. They think they are moral but are far from it! They place the worth of a non-conscious being over the well being of every human on the planet. You see this in their worship of Trump's authoritarianism, supporting those that do nothing about climate change or gun violence, supporting those that do nothing about America's unsustainable health care costs, supporting those that give tax breaks to billionaires at the expense of the majority of Americans and forcing raped 10 year old little girls to give birth. The pure hatred for all conscious life is the foundation of christians as shown by their real world actions.
@eriknickell6583Ай бұрын
This was eye opening I only heard Sola anything through the other outlets. Keep this up Dr Andy!!!
@user-vk7nx5hq4sАй бұрын
If acceptence of aberrant sexual behavior is something this guy wants why doesn't he just remove himself from the Nazarene fellowship and find someplace where this is accepted instead of trying to stir the pot? Particularly troubleing is his attitude that we should adjust our beliefs and practices to conform to culture rather than conforming the internal culture of the body of Christ to the standard of Gods Word. This is the same old lie that has been around for thousands of years. Essentially taking the position that we as the created are smarter than the Creator.
@tomfuller5585Ай бұрын
The UM liberals cannot win, for their goal is changing the Scriptures to conform to their opinions. They might as well legislate the Sun to come up in the west. They will only destroy the denomination they pledged to uphold. Reality is, they have turned the UMC into a cult, a religious organization whose doctrines directly contradict the Bible. Where--in Scripture, church history, or common sense--where was it ever written that following Jesus means gratifying our sexual urges however we feel? Theological liberalism resembles ancient Baalism more than Christianity. This is hardly "progressive".
@tomfuller5585Ай бұрын
The United Methodist Church: Tolerant of Diversity, Intolerant of Orthodoxy
@TimRogers34Ай бұрын
PLNU is a place that is churning out many young adults that are brainwashed into lefties who don’t take their faith seriously anymore. I want a refund.
@TimRogers34Ай бұрын
Don’t leave. Stay and stand strong.
@mama2aaa1Ай бұрын
Love Dr. Walls! Met him when I worked at Asbury Seminary .
@leskaighin8903Ай бұрын
Interesting, especially about the history of the Salvation Army. Neither John Wesley nor William Booth wanted to start a church. My understanding is that Wesley allowed women speakers because they weren't churches, but both ended up with churches. Let's get back to the simplicity of scripture.
@pattysantiniАй бұрын
I wish this information was available to me 38 years ago. I knew I live with physical abuse but I first heard about a narcissist about 6 months ago…WOW this was 100% my life. I believe true he’ll and then I spent 10 years after a prolonged divorce mourning and wondering how he could so easily let me and out 4 children go and now at 69 years of age I finally understand. I always say better late than never to learn! Thank you for your work! I can tell you without hesitation your children do suffer and turn on you. Mine go back and forth
@LoriBTravelАй бұрын
Love this interview!
@andymilleriiiАй бұрын
Thanks, Lori!
@theacts17accordАй бұрын
false teacher and he does teach replacement theology
@deej7928Ай бұрын
Do Nazarene churches have the ability to dissafiliate with their property?
@mariamedeiros-charters6008Ай бұрын
Elevation, thak you God I really need you. Please pray for me I need a miracle healing and restoration as well as a miracle in my family.
@user-wt8op3eo6eАй бұрын
As much as these guys obviously know, it surprises me that they make the assumption that satan resides in, or even visits, the realm of the dead. 🤔
@JMarkJones2 ай бұрын
I absolutely love it. We are a small disaffiliated church, just got our shipment and will roll out on Sunday. Ive had one on my piano for a while and can’t stop playing.
@ethanlintemuth80232 ай бұрын
With all due respect I think Dr. Wright is wrong on his thesis implying that the land does not still belong to Israel. Some popular arguments are #1 First 'Olam/everlasting doesn't actually mean forever.' I disagree, when you look at the meaning of the Word Olam the Psalm's even describes God as an Olam(everlasting) other meanings are permanent, continual, perpetual. Even if the word doesn't mean eternity there is no indication that the promise to Abraham in 17:8 ever had a time stamp on it. The promise of the land being an everlasting possession to Abrahams descendants is reiterated numerous times to the Israelites after him. #2 Some say 'The land was always conditional on their obedience.' There is a lot of truth to this statement when we read the Bible because we see them expelled from the land when they are disobedient, however this is not the full picture. The Mosiac covenant had blessings and curses for the obedience or disobedience of the people of Israel, however this did not undo the Abrahamic covenant that the land would be promised to his descendants as an everlasting possession. Also Ezekiel states that the Lord returning them from the land is actually NOT because of ISRAELS OBEDIENCE but for the sake of THE LORDS HOLY NAME. (Ezekiel 11:14-20, 20:39-44, 36:16-38) One example: 22 “Therefore say to the Israelites, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: It is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. 23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I am proved holy through you before their eyes." Ezekiel 36:22-23 The whole book of Ezekiel could essentially be a promise of punishment for disobedience but a promise of restoration and an eternal restoration for the sake of Gods name in being faithful to his Covenant. #3 Third argument is that the return is talking about the return from Babylon. Once again I think there is truth in this statement but it is not the full picture. Old Testament and End times prophecies can be difficult to decipher because some fulfillments are in immediate future and some are in distant future. The reason I believe this doesn't pertain to only the return of Babylon is because there are many end times statements and or things that have not happened yet such as God putting a "new spirit in them" (Ezekiel 36). Jeremiah talks about the Lord "destroying the nations I scatter you to" that clearly hasn't happened yet either. Another place in Ezekiel 36:15 mentions that Israel will no longer hear the taunts of the nations anymore...that also is yet to be fulfilled. There are numerous others that indicate there will be a future return where the Israelites will never be uprooted again and God will set up his kingdom fully upon the earth. #4 Lastly, many say that "Christ has come to fulfill the law and therefore it is all about Christ and his kingdom not land." I fully agree that the primary focus of the church is the promotion of the Gospel and his kingdom in all things. However that being said, God can do more than one thing. He can fulfill his promise to Abraham by making his descendants a blessing to all nations because salvation comes from the Jews, while also fulfilling his promise that the land is an "everlasting possession to his descendants." Isaiah 49:6 says: he says: “It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept. I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.” This is all true and good news but just because God's salvation goes beyond the Jewish people to the ends of the earth does not mean that his promises to them are undone because he did something greater than they could imagine. Romans 11:28-29 states "As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable." God's call on Israel is irrevocable! Jeremiah 31:35-36 says This is what the Lord says, he who appoints the sun to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars to shine by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar- the Lord Almighty is his name: 36 “Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,” declares the Lord, “will Israel ever cease being a nation before me.” To summarize, we undoubtedly need to show Christ love to both Jew and Palestinian, for let's remember Jesus first revealed himself as Messiah to a Samaritan woman who was considered immoral. God's love is far greater than we can imagine. That being said let's not disregard God's promises to the people of Israel. This does not condone every governmental action, but let's be aware that the enemy has real plan to try to destroy the people of Israel and is actively working and trying to deceive people in order to do so.
@ethanlintemuth80232 ай бұрын
God can do both...his salvation reaches the ends of the earth and at the same time God keeps his promises to Abraham that the land of Israel belongs to his descendants forever.
@ladyvirgo95142 ай бұрын
I really appreciate this conversation 🙏 I was cheated on & abandoned by my husband of 12 years. The divorce process has been long ( because of him) but ive been free of him for a year since he blindsided me & left for his coworker,he actually filed but he was always very weak
@cumcchristianeducation80832 ай бұрын
We missed the opportunity to submit for disaffiliation due to misinformation. is there any option for us to disaffilite now we are a part of NY annual conference?
@Send67s2 ай бұрын
Yes thank you Tom. I hope you will continue to work with the African church after this whole mess.
@delynnroberts74072 ай бұрын
Thank you Andy for the insightful way you present this!
@sonnyboy89572 ай бұрын
1Timothy4:1. Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.
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A lot of ignorance here. Scholars such as late Dr.Gordon Fee (an Adviser in NIV) and Dr. Craig Keener answer all these questions from exegesis from Greek and answers objections. In a word, tounges are not necessarily a "language" but as Acts 2:4 says "as the Spirit gave utterance". Some times the Spirit may give utterance in a language form .(As at Pentecost or as recorded in some rare times by missionaries...but most times not in a language but something only known by God from the human spirit. Many critics have not even read the scholarly works above .
I’d argue His decent to hell shouldn’t be a private discussion! That had to do with proclaiming victory to the fallen angels. To me the removal of that might have been a misunderstanding of what it was about. But I’d love to know more background.
Excellent interview.
Fantastic info, thank you Andy
What a tremendous honor! The right man is in the chair. Congratulations.
Ask her this question and most people I’ve meet in your standing you have do you have a friend a relative etc that is gay 90 plus percent people I’ve talked to that agree with it say yes so they don’t have a leg to stand it’s not biblical there plenty of scripture to back that
Yes it has 100 percent
My narc husband turned all three of my children against me. I don't know my grandchildren.
NPD comes from childhood abuse. Even getting all you want is a form of abuse - enabling
I love that you’re going to do what God is calling you to do Dr Clarke, inspite of what the g@vernment says!
A split is coming ...
Wonderful news❤
Dr. Miller, will you still teach some classes? I was looking forward to sitting under your tutelage.
@@jimmywilliams7876 yes! I plan to keep teaching a couple of classes every year. Mainly preaching courses.
God bless you, Dr Miller! I pray that he will strengthen you in this new position for his glory and grace.
Some groups of conservative Mennonites used to, and may still use the lot to seek pastors. They put a piece of paper in a Bible, put several Bibles on the altar, and then have selected candidates come forward and chose a Bible. The one who gets the paper is selected.
On the London marches - Bishop Wright would actually have found Jewish rabbis walking with other Jews, with Christiansm with Muslims, and with many people of no religious faither - what united us (I am one of the Christians who walked on two of these London marches) - what united us was our attempt to do something to protect the adults and children trapped in Gaza from the terrible suffering and death which is destroying them. These marches are not marches of hate. i watched the great affection expressed towards Jewish people on the marches I was on. The policing was meticulous. The Metropolitan Police Commissioner and his officers have been wonderful. and the marchers have been friendly and appreciative. I do wish that people would not make or repeat untrue statements about other people. In the Gospel of John there is the wonderful passage where Jesus tells his followers that God will send the Holy Spirit to support them - the Spirit of Truth. Lies and deception are very different from God's plan for us. The Commandments handed down to Moses on Sinai say "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour". This is not a trivial commandment. The consequences of spreading untrue allegations can be devastating.
Hi Dr. Andy, I listened to your response to Dr. Mohler’s statement a few weeks ago. The comments section contained a discussion between a student and a PhD regarding women as pastors; the student’s argument was far more persuasive. Certainly there are many women in the Bible that God used for a great variety of purposes, but none were pastors. Junia was not an apostle, but known to the apostles. To assert that women were pastors in the Bible or to assert that Junia was an apostle is to eisegetically interpret the Bible, and quite frankly, to deny the authority of the word of God. History has shown that denominations that ordain women as pastors will become apostate churches, just as the UMC. The GMC will experience the same in due time. History has shown that denominations that ordain women will deny the authority of the Bible. The GMC will experience the same in due time. I was confirmed in the small United Methodist Church just down the road from my home. My ancestors helped build that church. My maternal grandparents and my parents were married in that small church. My mother, brother, and I were confirmed in that church. While I don’t recall too much from my confirmation classes (I suspect many don’t), one lesson was ingrained in my mind by our fresh out of seminary, pastor. He was a young George Whitefield, powerful and passionate sermons, a genuine zeal for God and bringing sinners to salvation. He taught that the word Bible is spelled with three I’s: inspired, inerrant, and infallible; to which I would add two more Is and two As - immutable, invincible, authoritative, and all-sufficient. His high view of scripture and the authority contained therein was conspicuously evident throughout his time with our little church (we would have been happy to have him there until he retired). If the GMC does not adopt a high view of God’s word and the authority contained therein such as written in the Scot’s Confession or the Westminster Confession, the GMC will quickly fall. The progressives and their lord Satan are working fast and furious destroy God’s word. Evolution or are we made in God’s image? Six literal days for creation in Genesis or something else? Moses would have understood six days to be six days as he received the Ten Commandments. How old is the earth? Did the flood really happen? Did God really destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? Universalism? God created sin? Jesus was not God when he was in human form? Sexual immorality doesn’t apply to consenting adults? Abortion as an acceptable form of birth control? The GMC must take a strong, immovable stance regarding the Holy Scriptures first and foremost. If you are to be a delegate, this must be the most important aspect of church doctrine, followed by the immediate elimination of all forms of liberalism. Failure to do these things will result in the GMC serving Satan, dead in their trespasses and sin. Their pastors becoming false teachers as warned in 26 of the 27 books of the New Testament.
Oh, an audiobook!!! I pray Jim takes your suggestion seriously!!! Upon my death, I'm ensuring my unsaved daughter gets my copy of his book. Because of my awkward verbal skills and our somewhat estranged relationship, I'm praying she'll read it, realizing what a beautiful soul Rich was and how his messages led me to a healthier place in my healing journey. My daughter is extremely articulate, so I'm grateful I can leave her Jim's book to reflect the depth of my heart captured by Rich's messages of God's unconditional love and seeing people through His eyes, not the denominational lens. Prayerfully, as she reads it, she'll be able to appreciate where I was coming from but couldn't express ...I believe an audio version of the book God could use to permeate her heart thoughts that would allow me to bless her and hopefully enable her to experience Him ...Thank you for the great interview! Please share this with Jim.
Theologians/teachers who deny the role of the nation of Israel in the end times are generally descended theologically from the Roman Catholic church or thereby to the Church of England/Anglican outfits on to the Reformed theologians to the seminaries and out to poison the pews. No serious Bible interpreter can say that a fair reading of Romans 9-11 does not ordain with authority the role of Israel in the last days and God's dominical authority proclaiming that "All Israel will be saved." I would add that theologicans/preachers who hold this idea, especially in seminaries, are probably closet or open Democrats and voted/will vote for Biden and his clown fest of carnality. They treasure "fitting in" with traditional/racist theologies more than God speaking in His Word.
I am an Episcopalian, orthodox but not especially conservative and not at all fretful about human sexual diversity, my view is definitely more Prima Scriptura than Sola Scriptura, but I agree with this view of the Bible.
Great teaching so rare the talk of sola scripture while being a pentecostal learned the scriptures at Methodist Sunday school
Andy - do you have references that I can get a hold of for all that fantastic Salvo history?
Anything specific you are looking for?
@@andymilleriii all good - I shall start with your papers on TSAs ecclesiology and go from there.
Hi Dr. Andy, I listened to your response to Dr. Mohler’s statement a few weeks ago. The comments section contained a discussion between a student and a PhD regarding women as pastors; the student’s argument was far more persuasive. Certainly there are many women in the Bible that God used for a great variety of purposes, but none were pastors. Junia was not an apostle, but known to the apostles. To assert that women were pastors in the Bible or to assert that Junia was an apostle is to eisegetically interpret the Bible, and quite frankly, to deny the authority of the word of God. History has shown that denominations that ordain women as pastors will become apostate churches, just as the UMC. The GMC will experience the same in due time. History has shown that denominations that ordain women will deny the authority of the Bible. The GMC will experience the same in due time. I was confirmed in the small United Methodist Church just down the road from my home. My ancestors helped build that church. My maternal grandparents and my parents were married in that small church. My mother, brother, and I were confirmed in that church. While I don’t recall too much from my confirmation classes (I suspect many don’t), one lesson was ingrained in my mind by our fresh out of seminary, pastor. He was a young George Whitefield, powerful and passionate sermons, a genuine zeal for God and bringing sinners to salvation. He taught that the word Bible is spelled with three I’s: inspired, inerrant, and infallible; to which I would add two more Is and two As - immutable, invincible, authoritative, and all-sufficient. His high view of scripture and the authority contained therein was conspicuously evident throughout his time with our little church (we would have been happy to have him there until he retired). If the GMC does not adopt a high view of God’s word and the authority contained therein such as written in the Scot’s Confession or the Westminster Confession, the GMC will quickly fall. The progressives and their lord Satan are working fast and furious destroy God’s word. Evolution or are we made in God’s image? Six literal days for creation in Genesis or something else? Moses would have understood six days to be six days as he received the Ten Commandments. How old is the earth? Did the flood really happen? Did God really destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? Universalism? God created sin? Jesus was not God when he was in human form? Sexual immorality doesn’t apply to consenting adults? Abortion as an acceptable form of birth control? The GMC must take a strong, immovable stance regarding the Holy Scriptures first and foremost. If you are to be a delegate, this must be the most important aspect of church doctrine, followed by the immediate elimination of all forms of liberalism. Failure to do these things will result in the GMC serving Satan, dead in their trespasses and sin. Their pastors becoming false teachers as warned in 26 of the 27 books of the New Testament.
You’re talking about mercy to this demonic Pharisee??
What a couple of political knuckleheads.
Tom needs to read Romans 11.
Word salad, with a heresy dressing, topped with a seasoning of allegorical symbolism, and a garnish of private interpretation. 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 ESV - For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw- each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
Excellent interview.
Abortion is the best salvation for the majority of humanity if Christianity is true. Most Christians agree that an aborted fetus would go to heaven...which would guarantee that they would be saved from eternal conscious suffering in hell! Mark 9:42-48 shows why birth is the worst option for most people. Why do Christians ignore what the bible teaches on hell? If hell is real then abortion is the most humane thing that could ever happen to any potential human being ever! The risk of eternal torture if true will always outweigh bringing any finite life into this world. So how insane is a religion that makes human extinction the best option to human suffering? So the question for forced birth extremists is which is it? Do you honestly believe hell is real or is the bible lying? Are you ignorant to what eternal conscious torture is? Are you in denial that exponentially more people will be tortured for eternity than claim a life in your heaven belief? Or do you just disregard and hate conscious life and don't care about those who will be tortured for eternity? And this flawed thinking by the so called pro-life movement and Christians is what makes them so dangerous and showcases their hypocrisy. They think they are moral but are far from it! They place the worth of a non-conscious being over the well being of every human on the planet. You see this in their worship of Trump's authoritarianism, supporting those that do nothing about climate change or gun violence, supporting those that do nothing about America's unsustainable health care costs, supporting those that give tax breaks to billionaires at the expense of the majority of Americans and forcing raped 10 year old little girls to give birth. The pure hatred for all conscious life is the foundation of christians as shown by their real world actions.
This was eye opening I only heard Sola anything through the other outlets. Keep this up Dr Andy!!!
If acceptence of aberrant sexual behavior is something this guy wants why doesn't he just remove himself from the Nazarene fellowship and find someplace where this is accepted instead of trying to stir the pot? Particularly troubleing is his attitude that we should adjust our beliefs and practices to conform to culture rather than conforming the internal culture of the body of Christ to the standard of Gods Word. This is the same old lie that has been around for thousands of years. Essentially taking the position that we as the created are smarter than the Creator.
The UM liberals cannot win, for their goal is changing the Scriptures to conform to their opinions. They might as well legislate the Sun to come up in the west. They will only destroy the denomination they pledged to uphold. Reality is, they have turned the UMC into a cult, a religious organization whose doctrines directly contradict the Bible. Where--in Scripture, church history, or common sense--where was it ever written that following Jesus means gratifying our sexual urges however we feel? Theological liberalism resembles ancient Baalism more than Christianity. This is hardly "progressive".
The United Methodist Church: Tolerant of Diversity, Intolerant of Orthodoxy
PLNU is a place that is churning out many young adults that are brainwashed into lefties who don’t take their faith seriously anymore. I want a refund.
Don’t leave. Stay and stand strong.
Love Dr. Walls! Met him when I worked at Asbury Seminary .
Interesting, especially about the history of the Salvation Army. Neither John Wesley nor William Booth wanted to start a church. My understanding is that Wesley allowed women speakers because they weren't churches, but both ended up with churches. Let's get back to the simplicity of scripture.
I wish this information was available to me 38 years ago. I knew I live with physical abuse but I first heard about a narcissist about 6 months ago…WOW this was 100% my life. I believe true he’ll and then I spent 10 years after a prolonged divorce mourning and wondering how he could so easily let me and out 4 children go and now at 69 years of age I finally understand. I always say better late than never to learn! Thank you for your work! I can tell you without hesitation your children do suffer and turn on you. Mine go back and forth
Love this interview!
Thanks, Lori!
false teacher and he does teach replacement theology
Do Nazarene churches have the ability to dissafiliate with their property?
Elevation, thak you God I really need you. Please pray for me I need a miracle healing and restoration as well as a miracle in my family.
As much as these guys obviously know, it surprises me that they make the assumption that satan resides in, or even visits, the realm of the dead. 🤔
I absolutely love it. We are a small disaffiliated church, just got our shipment and will roll out on Sunday. Ive had one on my piano for a while and can’t stop playing.
With all due respect I think Dr. Wright is wrong on his thesis implying that the land does not still belong to Israel. Some popular arguments are #1 First 'Olam/everlasting doesn't actually mean forever.' I disagree, when you look at the meaning of the Word Olam the Psalm's even describes God as an Olam(everlasting) other meanings are permanent, continual, perpetual. Even if the word doesn't mean eternity there is no indication that the promise to Abraham in 17:8 ever had a time stamp on it. The promise of the land being an everlasting possession to Abrahams descendants is reiterated numerous times to the Israelites after him. #2 Some say 'The land was always conditional on their obedience.' There is a lot of truth to this statement when we read the Bible because we see them expelled from the land when they are disobedient, however this is not the full picture. The Mosiac covenant had blessings and curses for the obedience or disobedience of the people of Israel, however this did not undo the Abrahamic covenant that the land would be promised to his descendants as an everlasting possession. Also Ezekiel states that the Lord returning them from the land is actually NOT because of ISRAELS OBEDIENCE but for the sake of THE LORDS HOLY NAME. (Ezekiel 11:14-20, 20:39-44, 36:16-38) One example: 22 “Therefore say to the Israelites, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: It is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. 23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I am proved holy through you before their eyes." Ezekiel 36:22-23 The whole book of Ezekiel could essentially be a promise of punishment for disobedience but a promise of restoration and an eternal restoration for the sake of Gods name in being faithful to his Covenant. #3 Third argument is that the return is talking about the return from Babylon. Once again I think there is truth in this statement but it is not the full picture. Old Testament and End times prophecies can be difficult to decipher because some fulfillments are in immediate future and some are in distant future. The reason I believe this doesn't pertain to only the return of Babylon is because there are many end times statements and or things that have not happened yet such as God putting a "new spirit in them" (Ezekiel 36). Jeremiah talks about the Lord "destroying the nations I scatter you to" that clearly hasn't happened yet either. Another place in Ezekiel 36:15 mentions that Israel will no longer hear the taunts of the nations anymore...that also is yet to be fulfilled. There are numerous others that indicate there will be a future return where the Israelites will never be uprooted again and God will set up his kingdom fully upon the earth. #4 Lastly, many say that "Christ has come to fulfill the law and therefore it is all about Christ and his kingdom not land." I fully agree that the primary focus of the church is the promotion of the Gospel and his kingdom in all things. However that being said, God can do more than one thing. He can fulfill his promise to Abraham by making his descendants a blessing to all nations because salvation comes from the Jews, while also fulfilling his promise that the land is an "everlasting possession to his descendants." Isaiah 49:6 says: he says: “It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept. I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.” This is all true and good news but just because God's salvation goes beyond the Jewish people to the ends of the earth does not mean that his promises to them are undone because he did something greater than they could imagine. Romans 11:28-29 states "As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable." God's call on Israel is irrevocable! Jeremiah 31:35-36 says This is what the Lord says, he who appoints the sun to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars to shine by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar- the Lord Almighty is his name: 36 “Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,” declares the Lord, “will Israel ever cease being a nation before me.” To summarize, we undoubtedly need to show Christ love to both Jew and Palestinian, for let's remember Jesus first revealed himself as Messiah to a Samaritan woman who was considered immoral. God's love is far greater than we can imagine. That being said let's not disregard God's promises to the people of Israel. This does not condone every governmental action, but let's be aware that the enemy has real plan to try to destroy the people of Israel and is actively working and trying to deceive people in order to do so.
God can do both...his salvation reaches the ends of the earth and at the same time God keeps his promises to Abraham that the land of Israel belongs to his descendants forever.
I really appreciate this conversation 🙏 I was cheated on & abandoned by my husband of 12 years. The divorce process has been long ( because of him) but ive been free of him for a year since he blindsided me & left for his coworker,he actually filed but he was always very weak
We missed the opportunity to submit for disaffiliation due to misinformation. is there any option for us to disaffilite now we are a part of NY annual conference?
Yes thank you Tom. I hope you will continue to work with the African church after this whole mess.
Thank you Andy for the insightful way you present this!
1Timothy4:1. Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.
The UMC has simply gone queer.