Would any of the kits work for luming dials today, or are they all pre-mixed (and thus degraded)?
@tomterry69244 күн бұрын
No glow from it at all. The modern stuff works great.
@brandonquinto48523 күн бұрын
@@tomterry6924 I know of a few people online who've synthesized/reconstituted radium paint for maximum authenticity with good success. If I ever got into radium watches I'd have to go that route out of rabid purism
@paulx277716 күн бұрын
When I bought my first real motorcycle, the dealer had new Norton Atlases for $975. That was in 1968, or maybe '69. I bought an N15 for $1250 but I think the Atlas would have been the better choice.
@user-gh2ff3yn4j17 күн бұрын
Nice ride!
@michaelwalker994518 күн бұрын
Nice but not original
@user-qv9oo2co7t18 күн бұрын
Ducati T-shirt?
@aluisious14 күн бұрын
My Ducati T shirt is made of the softest cotton I've got. Drives me nuts I can't get other shirts like it.
@thomasauslander375719 күн бұрын
Beautifully restored
@Kysushanz19 күн бұрын
Has that got a Commando front end?? I didn't think the Atlas came out with a front disc!
@tomterry692418 күн бұрын
Yes
@Kysushanz17 күн бұрын
@@tomterry6924 Ah ha, tweaking the performance! Back in the late 60's early 70's my flatmate had a Norton Atlas - I had a 750/4 - we had great fun ribbing each other.
@user-ir6fm3qs4o19 күн бұрын
Nice bike dude
@TheContrariann20 күн бұрын
WHOAH 😮
@definedrebel2451Ай бұрын
Do you have an eBay shop you sell from? I’m very interested seeing what you decide to let go. I don’t collect watches but I do collect anything radioactive
@bigpig95622 ай бұрын
Wow, 100k cpm!😱 Lovely🤓
@rasoolkathem29952 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤ wow love 💝
@KarbineKyle2 ай бұрын
Wow! That is awesome! I love that kit at the end! That's the radium-226 (likely radium-226 sulfate-as a compound, being the active ingredient) that you mix with the copper-activated zinc sulfide! That's why your G-M counter was over-saturated, due to the "fold-back effect." You get right up to it, and the counts drop significantly. I have a few recommendations: 1: I'd get a much better G-M counter, like a Ludlum Model 3, 12, or 14C, with a "pancake" type detector tube, like the 44-7 probe. I'd also look for and alpha particle scintillation probe for said Ludlum Model 3, 12, 14C, which you can use various probes with the same ratemeter G-M counter. Keep the probes facing downward, and avoid touching these items; you don't want to contaminate your radiation detection instruments. These instruments are pricy, but far superior! Used ones are cheaper, but make sure that they work, and that they've been recently calibrated! 2: Radon-222 + decay daughters, and also radium-226 dust mitigation is a good idea. Simply keeping those items sealed inside multiple plastic bags and/or with glass jars will mitigate contamination, especially for the ones that have missing crystals and glass faces. Putting activated charcoal/carbon inside said sealed containers will also "trap" much of the radium-226 decay progeny. The activated charcoal/carbon will become indirectly and stronly radioactive. Glass is also very good at stopping hard beta radiation. The radiation is less of a hazard than the actual radioactive material itself. Inhalation is the worst, followed by ingestion, and lastly, external exposure. Internal exposure is _far_ more hazardous than external exposure. 3: Invest in a 365 nm UV flashlight. This will work much better than the common 395 nm UV flashlight. The _less_ radioactive that the radium-226-lume is-the _longer_ and _brighter_ it will glow. The _more_ radioactive that the radium-226-lume is-the _shorter_ and _dimmer_ it will glow. Old military self-luminous items are often _much_ hotter than commercial items. And always, don't shine UV light directly into your eyes. Also, as a tip, check out decay chains and the specific activity of radioactive isotopes/radionuclides. Radium-226 has a half-life of 1600 years; 1 _gram_ of it = 1 _curie._ 1 _microgram_ = 1 _microcurie._ The amount/activity that these items have, will likely be in the tens of nanograms up to the tens of micrograms, at least. I know this reply is long. However, it should definitely help! Thank you for sharing this video! That's a beautiful radium-226-lumed collection!
@anthonycolbourne42063 ай бұрын
Psssst. Hey... Buddy... You wanna buy a WATCH?
@FabledFoxtrotGaming42173 ай бұрын
that's insane, are you selling any of it though?
@Dazdigo3 ай бұрын
Wait, you go around wearing these watches?!?!?! A CPM of 100 or less is fine, but I wouldn't want to keep anything over 1K CPM near me for more than a few minutes if possible.
@iftheseoldbeastscouldtalk77963 ай бұрын
That clock needs glass. Loose radium is a recipe for disaster. Everything nearby could get contaminated by daughter isotopes at that level of radium used, not to mention the radon it puts off.
@iftheseoldbeastscouldtalk77963 ай бұрын
If it isn't gone by now I would recommend keeping but storing the lume kits under sealed container and lead sheets. They are wonderful pieces of scientific and consumer product safety history but need to be handled accounting for exposure times and area monitoring. Great to see, problematic to own, wonderful to preserve.
@anthonycolbourne42063 ай бұрын
Yeah, just taking a reading of that empty case the clock was in is probably enough to make you want to turn around and walk the other way
@randy25rhoads3 ай бұрын
That’s awesome. If you invest in a more expensive detector that’s more sensitive those numbers will go WAY up (especially that clock).
@edutango534 ай бұрын
REPLICA
@samnova4504 ай бұрын
Is there a proper way of disposing watches that have radium? Getting into watch repair as a hobby.
@KarbineKyle2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't dispose of them. Radioactive enthusiasts will buy those. Even for ones that don't work, can make good check sources.
@BeauQuillen4 ай бұрын
FU@K YOUR REPLICA
@ady88174 ай бұрын
Replica
@treintaceroseis30814 ай бұрын
Es una réplica? Me quedo mas tranquilo...
@angelzaragoza99524 ай бұрын
-Maybe that is why they were willing to modernize the interior and alter other parts of it. Still, visually stunning automobile.
@jamieostrowski44474 ай бұрын
Hi Tom...I have one of these units, and it's missing the crystals as well. I'm really interested in how you put those solid state oscillators in. I'd like to be able to bring mine to life. Please let me know if you'd be willing to show us that!
@tomterry69244 ай бұрын
I got the bare 8 pin octal tube base with the pins and just soldered in the 100 Khz crystals, pins 3 & 7. All parts found at my local surplus, I'm sure you could find the parts on ebay. I think I could have bought the oem style but they were a hundred bucks or so, instead of like 10 bucks. oem tube BG9D-S
@liquidclaymore97704 ай бұрын
4:40 Please tell me that's a joke, or my limited understanding of radiation is just causing me to worry. Is that a Radium dial?
@yaykruser4 ай бұрын
Yeah, they used radium so the pilots or crew could see the instruments in the dark. Its scary but as long as he doesnt stay close for too long hes gonna be fine. I am more worried about the total ammount of radium he got there plus all the exposed paint that could flake off...
@liquidclaymore97704 ай бұрын
@@yaykruser I have a radium dial but it's enclosed. It's nothing like this tho.
@juslitor4 ай бұрын
That, and the radium decay chain products contaminating the room.@@yaykruser
@uTube4864 ай бұрын
Very cool...VERY cool.
@saturnslastring5 ай бұрын
Are you selling any of it?
@arthuruwontknow21026 ай бұрын
Man your crazy, working with this amount of radium with nothing but a 100$ Geiger owww, get a contamination meter also a radon device would be cool i cant imagine the radon level in your place, also you should try to get a higher range counter, scintillator are nice you really get the dosage to see the risk
@coo42317 ай бұрын
Oh man this is so cool but you should absolutely have a better device for checking for contamination
@gordonfreeman51798 ай бұрын
Are those samples dangerous at all to be around? How do you move them?
@randyab9go18810 ай бұрын
The one thing that does concern me is the unit going negative. Either it isn't zeroed properly or you have something failing. Maybe a defective resistor or capacitor.
@tomterry692410 ай бұрын
It's just the zero adjustment, not sure of the procedure for setting zero and calibrate knobs, no manual yet. I set range to "Z" and zero the needle, turn the calibrate most of the way up to read about 20cpm as background.
@randyab9go18810 ай бұрын
Nice sensitive unit. Did you need to replace the capacitors and did you have to replace the scintillation crystal?
@MinSredMash Жыл бұрын
Working on radium devices with nothing but the world's cheapest geiger counter is such a bad idea... You could get an adequate device for contamination sweeps for the price of just a few watches.
@tomterry6924 Жыл бұрын
Tells me all I need to know. What would a more expensive meter tell me?
@MinSredMash Жыл бұрын
@@tomterry6924 It would tell you whether there are microscopic flecks of radium contaminating your workspace and posing an inhalation/ingestion risk...
@cheekiantics19068 ай бұрын
@@tomterry6924 the radiacode 102 is a very good geiger counter ;)
@peepsibhoy8 күн бұрын
@@tomterry6924 the time
@GotTheTeeShirt1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I followed this link from your recent Facebook posting in the Vintage Electronic Test Equipment.
@jacobqueen4411 Жыл бұрын
Hello i have a really old key wind its a ladies Hunters case i lost the key but am interested in seeing if you know much about these watches im in search of more information about how old mime is
@mudhutproductions Жыл бұрын
425' to the bottom. It drops into level 3.
@tomterry6924 Жыл бұрын
Been to the bottom, not a recommended walk. I have maps of the workings I got from usgs.
@mudhutproductions Жыл бұрын
@@tomterry6924 Does it interface with any other levels or is it a straight shot to the bottom?
@tomterry6924 Жыл бұрын
@@mudhutproductions I didn't go down the vent, went in from level 2 straight down the haulage tunnel to the bottom of the hole. Looks like the vent intersects with several other levels, see where it says main shaft (collar) imgur.com/gallery/xpaQISu
@mudhutproductions Жыл бұрын
@@tomterry6924 My buddy and I have been dirt biking and jeeping the Creek since the 80's and I've got a strange obsession with the mine and its history lol. Thanks for responding brother! I would love to pick your brains about what you've seen on the inside. Thanks for the link too! I've never seen that particular map before. It ties up all the loose ends I have from the Level 10 Portal to San Carlos Peak! Stay safe! Man, let me edit this to say this map is OUT OF THE PARK! I've been looking for this for years. I could kiss ya on all four cheeks for this!
@prschuyler7 ай бұрын
@@tomterry6924 This is amazing, I've been to all of the mine openings (at least I think) and have been scouring the web looking for more info. This helps a lot. Can we chat privately about more specifics?
@dooda1193 Жыл бұрын
keen
@hazulaf3503 Жыл бұрын
I have a portable one that I’ve been trying to fix but can’t find anything about it, model no. 80019E1
@christopherleubner66332 жыл бұрын
Super fun to play with a bucket of snall screws and washers. Its hillarious. Also the pezioelectric transducers are about 5x more sensitive than than the magnetostrictive sensor and the amp in the probe head. 🤓❤
@MrSilas20122 жыл бұрын
Do you have the coordinates for this spot? I've always wanted to check it out
@tomterry6924 Жыл бұрын
Black spot dead center: www.google.com/maps/@36.3914145,-120.6580751,68m/data=!3m1!1e3?authuser=0
@grialevla2 жыл бұрын
It's way deeper than I thought.
@W4BTK3 жыл бұрын
Tom, can one enter any frequency and generate multiples from it?
@tomterry69243 жыл бұрын
yes, with external trigger, manual says: External Trigger: External signals (normally sine waves) between 1 Mc and 200 Mc can be used to produce combs spaced at frequency of trigger signals. ref bama.edebris.com/download/hp/8406a/HP%208406A.pdf
@ruhnet3 жыл бұрын
Very cool.
@markgreco19623 жыл бұрын
427a volt meter on 18650. Did you use 5 or 6 cells
@markgreco19623 жыл бұрын
The counter is great looking
@greglinder57843 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful stack of equipment... I've got a growing collection of such items as well... There's something really lovely and beautiful about old test equipment. On the bench right behind me is a 5245L counter that I make regular use of. If I had more space, I'd be piling more stuff up and working on continued restoration and display of this equipment. Someday..
@ruhnet3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! 👍
@ruhnet3 жыл бұрын
Very cool.
@markgreco19623 жыл бұрын
Nice rack
@I9673 жыл бұрын
Wonderful equipments, thank you for sharing. The only thing to make it even nicer would be if the pushbuttons were illuminated from inside!
@daveschmidt1323 жыл бұрын
I just picked one up the other day, about the same vintage as your case color wise. Going through it now - one bad 12b4A and a blown B+ fuse.
Пікірлер
Would any of the kits work for luming dials today, or are they all pre-mixed (and thus degraded)?
No glow from it at all. The modern stuff works great.
@@tomterry6924 I know of a few people online who've synthesized/reconstituted radium paint for maximum authenticity with good success. If I ever got into radium watches I'd have to go that route out of rabid purism
When I bought my first real motorcycle, the dealer had new Norton Atlases for $975. That was in 1968, or maybe '69. I bought an N15 for $1250 but I think the Atlas would have been the better choice.
Nice ride!
Nice but not original
Ducati T-shirt?
My Ducati T shirt is made of the softest cotton I've got. Drives me nuts I can't get other shirts like it.
Beautifully restored
Has that got a Commando front end?? I didn't think the Atlas came out with a front disc!
Yes
@@tomterry6924 Ah ha, tweaking the performance! Back in the late 60's early 70's my flatmate had a Norton Atlas - I had a 750/4 - we had great fun ribbing each other.
Nice bike dude
WHOAH 😮
Do you have an eBay shop you sell from? I’m very interested seeing what you decide to let go. I don’t collect watches but I do collect anything radioactive
Wow, 100k cpm!😱 Lovely🤓
❤❤❤❤ wow love 💝
Wow! That is awesome! I love that kit at the end! That's the radium-226 (likely radium-226 sulfate-as a compound, being the active ingredient) that you mix with the copper-activated zinc sulfide! That's why your G-M counter was over-saturated, due to the "fold-back effect." You get right up to it, and the counts drop significantly. I have a few recommendations: 1: I'd get a much better G-M counter, like a Ludlum Model 3, 12, or 14C, with a "pancake" type detector tube, like the 44-7 probe. I'd also look for and alpha particle scintillation probe for said Ludlum Model 3, 12, 14C, which you can use various probes with the same ratemeter G-M counter. Keep the probes facing downward, and avoid touching these items; you don't want to contaminate your radiation detection instruments. These instruments are pricy, but far superior! Used ones are cheaper, but make sure that they work, and that they've been recently calibrated! 2: Radon-222 + decay daughters, and also radium-226 dust mitigation is a good idea. Simply keeping those items sealed inside multiple plastic bags and/or with glass jars will mitigate contamination, especially for the ones that have missing crystals and glass faces. Putting activated charcoal/carbon inside said sealed containers will also "trap" much of the radium-226 decay progeny. The activated charcoal/carbon will become indirectly and stronly radioactive. Glass is also very good at stopping hard beta radiation. The radiation is less of a hazard than the actual radioactive material itself. Inhalation is the worst, followed by ingestion, and lastly, external exposure. Internal exposure is _far_ more hazardous than external exposure. 3: Invest in a 365 nm UV flashlight. This will work much better than the common 395 nm UV flashlight. The _less_ radioactive that the radium-226-lume is-the _longer_ and _brighter_ it will glow. The _more_ radioactive that the radium-226-lume is-the _shorter_ and _dimmer_ it will glow. Old military self-luminous items are often _much_ hotter than commercial items. And always, don't shine UV light directly into your eyes. Also, as a tip, check out decay chains and the specific activity of radioactive isotopes/radionuclides. Radium-226 has a half-life of 1600 years; 1 _gram_ of it = 1 _curie._ 1 _microgram_ = 1 _microcurie._ The amount/activity that these items have, will likely be in the tens of nanograms up to the tens of micrograms, at least. I know this reply is long. However, it should definitely help! Thank you for sharing this video! That's a beautiful radium-226-lumed collection!
Psssst. Hey... Buddy... You wanna buy a WATCH?
that's insane, are you selling any of it though?
Wait, you go around wearing these watches?!?!?! A CPM of 100 or less is fine, but I wouldn't want to keep anything over 1K CPM near me for more than a few minutes if possible.
That clock needs glass. Loose radium is a recipe for disaster. Everything nearby could get contaminated by daughter isotopes at that level of radium used, not to mention the radon it puts off.
If it isn't gone by now I would recommend keeping but storing the lume kits under sealed container and lead sheets. They are wonderful pieces of scientific and consumer product safety history but need to be handled accounting for exposure times and area monitoring. Great to see, problematic to own, wonderful to preserve.
Yeah, just taking a reading of that empty case the clock was in is probably enough to make you want to turn around and walk the other way
That’s awesome. If you invest in a more expensive detector that’s more sensitive those numbers will go WAY up (especially that clock).
REPLICA
Is there a proper way of disposing watches that have radium? Getting into watch repair as a hobby.
I wouldn't dispose of them. Radioactive enthusiasts will buy those. Even for ones that don't work, can make good check sources.
FU@K YOUR REPLICA
Replica
Es una réplica? Me quedo mas tranquilo...
-Maybe that is why they were willing to modernize the interior and alter other parts of it. Still, visually stunning automobile.
Hi Tom...I have one of these units, and it's missing the crystals as well. I'm really interested in how you put those solid state oscillators in. I'd like to be able to bring mine to life. Please let me know if you'd be willing to show us that!
I got the bare 8 pin octal tube base with the pins and just soldered in the 100 Khz crystals, pins 3 & 7. All parts found at my local surplus, I'm sure you could find the parts on ebay. I think I could have bought the oem style but they were a hundred bucks or so, instead of like 10 bucks. oem tube BG9D-S
4:40 Please tell me that's a joke, or my limited understanding of radiation is just causing me to worry. Is that a Radium dial?
Yeah, they used radium so the pilots or crew could see the instruments in the dark. Its scary but as long as he doesnt stay close for too long hes gonna be fine. I am more worried about the total ammount of radium he got there plus all the exposed paint that could flake off...
@@yaykruser I have a radium dial but it's enclosed. It's nothing like this tho.
That, and the radium decay chain products contaminating the room.@@yaykruser
Very cool...VERY cool.
Are you selling any of it?
Man your crazy, working with this amount of radium with nothing but a 100$ Geiger owww, get a contamination meter also a radon device would be cool i cant imagine the radon level in your place, also you should try to get a higher range counter, scintillator are nice you really get the dosage to see the risk
Oh man this is so cool but you should absolutely have a better device for checking for contamination
Are those samples dangerous at all to be around? How do you move them?
The one thing that does concern me is the unit going negative. Either it isn't zeroed properly or you have something failing. Maybe a defective resistor or capacitor.
It's just the zero adjustment, not sure of the procedure for setting zero and calibrate knobs, no manual yet. I set range to "Z" and zero the needle, turn the calibrate most of the way up to read about 20cpm as background.
Nice sensitive unit. Did you need to replace the capacitors and did you have to replace the scintillation crystal?
Working on radium devices with nothing but the world's cheapest geiger counter is such a bad idea... You could get an adequate device for contamination sweeps for the price of just a few watches.
Tells me all I need to know. What would a more expensive meter tell me?
@@tomterry6924 It would tell you whether there are microscopic flecks of radium contaminating your workspace and posing an inhalation/ingestion risk...
@@tomterry6924 the radiacode 102 is a very good geiger counter ;)
@@tomterry6924 the time
Thanks for sharing. I followed this link from your recent Facebook posting in the Vintage Electronic Test Equipment.
Hello i have a really old key wind its a ladies Hunters case i lost the key but am interested in seeing if you know much about these watches im in search of more information about how old mime is
425' to the bottom. It drops into level 3.
Been to the bottom, not a recommended walk. I have maps of the workings I got from usgs.
@@tomterry6924 Does it interface with any other levels or is it a straight shot to the bottom?
@@mudhutproductions I didn't go down the vent, went in from level 2 straight down the haulage tunnel to the bottom of the hole. Looks like the vent intersects with several other levels, see where it says main shaft (collar) imgur.com/gallery/xpaQISu
@@tomterry6924 My buddy and I have been dirt biking and jeeping the Creek since the 80's and I've got a strange obsession with the mine and its history lol. Thanks for responding brother! I would love to pick your brains about what you've seen on the inside. Thanks for the link too! I've never seen that particular map before. It ties up all the loose ends I have from the Level 10 Portal to San Carlos Peak! Stay safe! Man, let me edit this to say this map is OUT OF THE PARK! I've been looking for this for years. I could kiss ya on all four cheeks for this!
@@tomterry6924 This is amazing, I've been to all of the mine openings (at least I think) and have been scouring the web looking for more info. This helps a lot. Can we chat privately about more specifics?
keen
I have a portable one that I’ve been trying to fix but can’t find anything about it, model no. 80019E1
Super fun to play with a bucket of snall screws and washers. Its hillarious. Also the pezioelectric transducers are about 5x more sensitive than than the magnetostrictive sensor and the amp in the probe head. 🤓❤
Do you have the coordinates for this spot? I've always wanted to check it out
Black spot dead center: www.google.com/maps/@36.3914145,-120.6580751,68m/data=!3m1!1e3?authuser=0
It's way deeper than I thought.
Tom, can one enter any frequency and generate multiples from it?
yes, with external trigger, manual says: External Trigger: External signals (normally sine waves) between 1 Mc and 200 Mc can be used to produce combs spaced at frequency of trigger signals. ref bama.edebris.com/download/hp/8406a/HP%208406A.pdf
Very cool.
427a volt meter on 18650. Did you use 5 or 6 cells
The counter is great looking
What a beautiful stack of equipment... I've got a growing collection of such items as well... There's something really lovely and beautiful about old test equipment. On the bench right behind me is a 5245L counter that I make regular use of. If I had more space, I'd be piling more stuff up and working on continued restoration and display of this equipment. Someday..
Great stuff! 👍
Very cool.
Nice rack
Wonderful equipments, thank you for sharing. The only thing to make it even nicer would be if the pushbuttons were illuminated from inside!
I just picked one up the other day, about the same vintage as your case color wise. Going through it now - one bad 12b4A and a blown B+ fuse.