Sorry. I like Rogers but that setting just gives me cult like vibes.
@joetonny584312 күн бұрын
Fascinating!
@simonsays52519 күн бұрын
There's been all these "advancements" in the field of psychotherapy since Rogers' time, yet it turns out they aren't advancements at all, but simply distractions. Some people won't get this way of therapy, but when you are the client you FEEL the power of empathic listening. There is nothing to do, nothing to fix, nothing wrong. There is nothing more powerful than someone listening to you, saying back what they're hearing you say from time to time to make sure they're with you. It's absolutely transformative! Perhaps the transformation doesn't occur in one session, but over time, being listened to in this way develops emotional safety, and the client will begin to express parts of them that they've never shared with anyone, and that's where the real healing happens. It's so simple, that many can't see its power.
@uneedtherapy4221 күн бұрын
22:25 the use of “ here and now” phrases is stunning here.
@brettpitts933822 күн бұрын
No discussion of the family system given ex-wife had 4 kids upon marriage?
@oldfreeman56626 күн бұрын
I think she plays him professionally
@aquafabaaaАй бұрын
I have not the slightest clue how this was helpful for Gloria. She was clearly frustrated with him at many points in time. There was no therapeutic relationship building at all. I would have walked out within the first 10 mins.
@Natallou55Ай бұрын
Gloria didnt light up her cigarette with Rogers, she sparked up half way with Ellis and right at the start with Perls 😂
@naftalibendavidАй бұрын
Classic!
@wildfinchersАй бұрын
There is a part of me that wishes around the 45:49 minute mark, that Dr. Rogers would acknowledge how dangerous it is for a black man to acknowledge and express his anger and hurt. I feel like Dr. Rogers could do with explicitly broaching the topic of race in this interview series, because it feels to me it is being danced around.
@deskreverseАй бұрын
That's his whole MO though: not to introduce anything other than what the client is bringing in. Sometimes I wonder if there are limitations in strictly doing Rogerian style (such as the one you're pointing out) as opposed to a more integrative approach.
@AxelShawАй бұрын
Dr. Strupp was SPOT ON. What an amazing synthesis. Thank you very much for the upload.
@naftalibendavidАй бұрын
What a lesson.
@naftalibendavidАй бұрын
So grateful for these
@PsychRad2 ай бұрын
It seems that Gloria's standards were set a little too high. She seemed to believe that she should or must be in a relationship with a handsome doctor instead of one of those "icky" men. From what I've seen, Prince Charming doesn't exist, nor does Princess Charming. We are all flawed in one way or another. Accepting those flaws seems to be the path to developing a healthy, intimate relationship.
@SHIMSHAMRECORDS2 ай бұрын
"Stinky parts" seems like a poor choice of wording.
@traceyomalley37972 ай бұрын
How interesting to watch how human beings can be
@MonikaSkibinska-mp4zn2 ай бұрын
Absolute counselling mastery! This short video teaches you more than hundreds of books.
@uneedtherapy4221 күн бұрын
The pacing, the subtle moments, the silence, the gentle nudging, the focus totally on the client, the safe feeling, the use of metaphor without being pretentious, etc etc… this is absolutely a master at work!
@katarzynalindner5942 ай бұрын
This is so humanistic
@DuyLongg2 ай бұрын
Rất cảm ơn kênh <3
@tygilbert15373 ай бұрын
Priceless....very genuine, real and transparent 💯
@poor_jafar3 ай бұрын
15:30 The dangers.....
@boomerbutler75693 ай бұрын
I love the space Dr. Rogers leaves during the conversation to allow Gloria time to process and not fill every moment with talking. It's so powerful and I feel like this is a Masterclass given to us even in 2024. "Gloria: I wish I would have had a father give advice to me like you are now. Dr. Rogers: You seem to me like a pretty nice daughter." 🥲🤗
@Feuerzahn4 ай бұрын
His style is not very elegant. He is way too directive. REBT is still the most effective form of therapy. Fortunately you can adjust your therapeutic style.
@traceyomalley37974 ай бұрын
Thankyou for sharing I am studying this and its lovely to see such a beautiful human being we were blessed 💚🙏🏻
@robertbarnd55524 ай бұрын
I find this amazing. The year is 1970, the Vietnam war is continuing, the War on Drugs will be declared this year, the Kent State shootings will also occur, and young people nation-wide are questioning everything they have been taught to believe in. What an opportunity to sit down in a group with Carl Rogers himself and talk about your feelings. I bet that's the first time any of these people ever had the opportunity to do this.
@capnv14 ай бұрын
I had to watch this on the first day of grad school and I was so disturbed. Now I’m about to end grad school and now I see what he is trying to do
@personcenteredapproachvideos4 ай бұрын
any difference in how you feel and think now about this session?
@capnv14 ай бұрын
@@personcenteredapproachvideos I have a much better understanding of gestalt theory so I have a better understanding of his goal to make her more authentic. It’s not an approach I gravitate towards but I understand the end game of his approach
@personcenteredapproachvideos4 ай бұрын
thanks for sharing :)
@beatricemuthelet43444 ай бұрын
I have to say watching it till the end, it is convincing. What a strange procedure. I wonder how it lingered with her and if it sparked change. In any case, she was the least artificial with him out of the three therapists. I feel somehow that even though he talked it down in the opening, it was completely psychoanytical in his resume and he did make her regress at the end ..
@luispellegrini9874 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you for uploading this.
@FithriyaaniRashidi4 ай бұрын
amazing content - truly a gift for humanity
@unusualpond4 ай бұрын
Wow. All star cast. Humbly suggest putting the names of the panel in the title. I would have clicked years ago. Thank you for the upload
@user-wu5je2sd7s4 ай бұрын
Funny to see American viewers clutching their Perls at this video...
@tammyacker67534 ай бұрын
So much for building a strong therapeutic alliance.
@RDXVLOG17494 ай бұрын
❤❤
@cainstra-realmusic4 ай бұрын
No
@nightfuryrevenge18254 ай бұрын
I wish everyone the best completing their homework, stop reading the comments and get back to taking notes
@kessifett10595 ай бұрын
She is such a brave woman. I really admire her strenght and courage!
@robynstewardson5 ай бұрын
Astounding that in 1974 we were only just starting to work this out! Something so incredibly basic to the efficacy of helping people help themselves. ** Listening and Empathy ** - Positive regard & therapist congruence = growth promoting in a relationship - Empathic Listening both growth Promoting in relationships Bringing about change and - Research evidence shows a high degree of empathy in a relationship as one of the most potent factors. "Looking at ways of being with people that promote self-directed change." [NOT: Non-directive Therapy (reflecting the client's feelings) - - "you just say back the last words that the client said". Carl Rogers was appalled by this distortion of his idea of listening with empathy.] What not to do (per Carl Rogers theory): In many other types of therapies "...part of the appeal is that the therapist is clearly the 'expert' actively manipulating the situation, often in dramatic ways, for the client's benefit." [Not actually] *Behaviour therapy an exception to this -- actually based on expertise (on the increase at that time). Expertise in guiding people - Developed a system which evokes power in the person and not in the therapist. What we mean by Empathy: At all times: (who is CR referring to here? 11:32:) He sees empathy as the felt meaning that the client is experienceing in that particular moment. Relation to empathy: "Sounds like you might be angry at your father? disatisfied with him? disappointed in him?" "Yeah, yeah that's it. I am disappointed in him..." Against what is the man checking these terms? it finally matches the The right word/label/phrase captures the felt meaning of the flow that is going on within him that he hasn't been able to capture himself. the right feeling The right label or phrase enables him to bring into awareness the real meaning of what's going on within. Meaning of empathy as it seems right to me today: Empathy: a process rather than a state (term previously used... state of empathy). Empathic involves being sensitive moment to moment to the changing felt meanings which flow in this other person. It means temporarily inhabiting his world without making judgements, without ... moving about in it delicately Means frequently checking with him as to the accuracy (Still to watch the last half and finalise my notes.)
@ekaterinagalkina90735 ай бұрын
Gosh, what an ugly person this Fritz was! Guess he might have caused pretty much damage to lots of his clients. I wonder how much damage is being caused by his method right now
@chrisbailey57318 күн бұрын
Gestalt therapy is a widely used and very successful modality. He is trying to get her to express the way she really feels and to be comfortable identifying with parts of herself that she typical represses. It's much deeper then the comments section understands, quite extraordinary an approach. One of the largest therapeutic models in the world, in league with CBT and Person-centred approaches.
@ElijahAquilina5 ай бұрын
Do we know what ever happened to this client? Was there any follow-up years down the road?
@freeandfabulous43105 ай бұрын
As an LmFT I am faced with these types of questions in session all the time! I love Dr Roger’s responses!
@amanmagar21175 ай бұрын
Thnks to gloria and all the docs for such wonderful insight into different approaches to psychotherapy.
@amanmagar21175 ай бұрын
He is the. Artist .i genuinely mean that fedrichh😂
@amanmagar21175 ай бұрын
Never seen such master of counselling and manipulation hat off Dr fedrick I really enjoyed the whole session
@grahamwithinshaw55755 ай бұрын
Because you are selfish
@loveinthematrix5 ай бұрын
I have Unconditional Positive Regard for both of these sweeties. What a blessing it is to see these recorded.
@LordJasonKing6 ай бұрын
With the exception of his shirt this was fantastic.
@LordJasonKing6 ай бұрын
I don't think you'd get away with this in 2024?
@LordJasonKing6 ай бұрын
Its a shame that we will never understand if Rodgers influenced this session with Everette. I'm sure it did.
@LordJasonKing6 ай бұрын
The silence is absolutely deafening
@LordJasonKing6 ай бұрын
An absolute gem. I am simply in awe of his therapy and his vulnerability
@tru26 ай бұрын
Paraphrasing his words, it profound when he said something along the line that he cannot relate to how animals feels because he's a person (human) , racist are so detached from reality in there ignorant.. If the tables was turned with racism as demonstrated by Jane Elliott ( brown eye blue eye experiment) the same racist will demand cry.more than babies for equal rights and justice.. Evil is racist
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Sorry. I like Rogers but that setting just gives me cult like vibes.
Fascinating!
There's been all these "advancements" in the field of psychotherapy since Rogers' time, yet it turns out they aren't advancements at all, but simply distractions. Some people won't get this way of therapy, but when you are the client you FEEL the power of empathic listening. There is nothing to do, nothing to fix, nothing wrong. There is nothing more powerful than someone listening to you, saying back what they're hearing you say from time to time to make sure they're with you. It's absolutely transformative! Perhaps the transformation doesn't occur in one session, but over time, being listened to in this way develops emotional safety, and the client will begin to express parts of them that they've never shared with anyone, and that's where the real healing happens. It's so simple, that many can't see its power.
22:25 the use of “ here and now” phrases is stunning here.
No discussion of the family system given ex-wife had 4 kids upon marriage?
I think she plays him professionally
I have not the slightest clue how this was helpful for Gloria. She was clearly frustrated with him at many points in time. There was no therapeutic relationship building at all. I would have walked out within the first 10 mins.
Gloria didnt light up her cigarette with Rogers, she sparked up half way with Ellis and right at the start with Perls 😂
Classic!
There is a part of me that wishes around the 45:49 minute mark, that Dr. Rogers would acknowledge how dangerous it is for a black man to acknowledge and express his anger and hurt. I feel like Dr. Rogers could do with explicitly broaching the topic of race in this interview series, because it feels to me it is being danced around.
That's his whole MO though: not to introduce anything other than what the client is bringing in. Sometimes I wonder if there are limitations in strictly doing Rogerian style (such as the one you're pointing out) as opposed to a more integrative approach.
Dr. Strupp was SPOT ON. What an amazing synthesis. Thank you very much for the upload.
What a lesson.
So grateful for these
It seems that Gloria's standards were set a little too high. She seemed to believe that she should or must be in a relationship with a handsome doctor instead of one of those "icky" men. From what I've seen, Prince Charming doesn't exist, nor does Princess Charming. We are all flawed in one way or another. Accepting those flaws seems to be the path to developing a healthy, intimate relationship.
"Stinky parts" seems like a poor choice of wording.
How interesting to watch how human beings can be
Absolute counselling mastery! This short video teaches you more than hundreds of books.
The pacing, the subtle moments, the silence, the gentle nudging, the focus totally on the client, the safe feeling, the use of metaphor without being pretentious, etc etc… this is absolutely a master at work!
This is so humanistic
Rất cảm ơn kênh <3
Priceless....very genuine, real and transparent 💯
15:30 The dangers.....
I love the space Dr. Rogers leaves during the conversation to allow Gloria time to process and not fill every moment with talking. It's so powerful and I feel like this is a Masterclass given to us even in 2024. "Gloria: I wish I would have had a father give advice to me like you are now. Dr. Rogers: You seem to me like a pretty nice daughter." 🥲🤗
His style is not very elegant. He is way too directive. REBT is still the most effective form of therapy. Fortunately you can adjust your therapeutic style.
Thankyou for sharing I am studying this and its lovely to see such a beautiful human being we were blessed 💚🙏🏻
I find this amazing. The year is 1970, the Vietnam war is continuing, the War on Drugs will be declared this year, the Kent State shootings will also occur, and young people nation-wide are questioning everything they have been taught to believe in. What an opportunity to sit down in a group with Carl Rogers himself and talk about your feelings. I bet that's the first time any of these people ever had the opportunity to do this.
I had to watch this on the first day of grad school and I was so disturbed. Now I’m about to end grad school and now I see what he is trying to do
any difference in how you feel and think now about this session?
@@personcenteredapproachvideos I have a much better understanding of gestalt theory so I have a better understanding of his goal to make her more authentic. It’s not an approach I gravitate towards but I understand the end game of his approach
thanks for sharing :)
I have to say watching it till the end, it is convincing. What a strange procedure. I wonder how it lingered with her and if it sparked change. In any case, she was the least artificial with him out of the three therapists. I feel somehow that even though he talked it down in the opening, it was completely psychoanytical in his resume and he did make her regress at the end ..
Very interesting. Thank you for uploading this.
amazing content - truly a gift for humanity
Wow. All star cast. Humbly suggest putting the names of the panel in the title. I would have clicked years ago. Thank you for the upload
Funny to see American viewers clutching their Perls at this video...
So much for building a strong therapeutic alliance.
❤❤
No
I wish everyone the best completing their homework, stop reading the comments and get back to taking notes
She is such a brave woman. I really admire her strenght and courage!
Astounding that in 1974 we were only just starting to work this out! Something so incredibly basic to the efficacy of helping people help themselves. ** Listening and Empathy ** - Positive regard & therapist congruence = growth promoting in a relationship - Empathic Listening both growth Promoting in relationships Bringing about change and - Research evidence shows a high degree of empathy in a relationship as one of the most potent factors. "Looking at ways of being with people that promote self-directed change." [NOT: Non-directive Therapy (reflecting the client's feelings) - - "you just say back the last words that the client said". Carl Rogers was appalled by this distortion of his idea of listening with empathy.] What not to do (per Carl Rogers theory): In many other types of therapies "...part of the appeal is that the therapist is clearly the 'expert' actively manipulating the situation, often in dramatic ways, for the client's benefit." [Not actually] *Behaviour therapy an exception to this -- actually based on expertise (on the increase at that time). Expertise in guiding people - Developed a system which evokes power in the person and not in the therapist. What we mean by Empathy: At all times: (who is CR referring to here? 11:32:) He sees empathy as the felt meaning that the client is experienceing in that particular moment. Relation to empathy: "Sounds like you might be angry at your father? disatisfied with him? disappointed in him?" "Yeah, yeah that's it. I am disappointed in him..." Against what is the man checking these terms? it finally matches the The right word/label/phrase captures the felt meaning of the flow that is going on within him that he hasn't been able to capture himself. the right feeling The right label or phrase enables him to bring into awareness the real meaning of what's going on within. Meaning of empathy as it seems right to me today: Empathy: a process rather than a state (term previously used... state of empathy). Empathic involves being sensitive moment to moment to the changing felt meanings which flow in this other person. It means temporarily inhabiting his world without making judgements, without ... moving about in it delicately Means frequently checking with him as to the accuracy (Still to watch the last half and finalise my notes.)
Gosh, what an ugly person this Fritz was! Guess he might have caused pretty much damage to lots of his clients. I wonder how much damage is being caused by his method right now
Gestalt therapy is a widely used and very successful modality. He is trying to get her to express the way she really feels and to be comfortable identifying with parts of herself that she typical represses. It's much deeper then the comments section understands, quite extraordinary an approach. One of the largest therapeutic models in the world, in league with CBT and Person-centred approaches.
Do we know what ever happened to this client? Was there any follow-up years down the road?
As an LmFT I am faced with these types of questions in session all the time! I love Dr Roger’s responses!
Thnks to gloria and all the docs for such wonderful insight into different approaches to psychotherapy.
He is the. Artist .i genuinely mean that fedrichh😂
Never seen such master of counselling and manipulation hat off Dr fedrick I really enjoyed the whole session
Because you are selfish
I have Unconditional Positive Regard for both of these sweeties. What a blessing it is to see these recorded.
With the exception of his shirt this was fantastic.
I don't think you'd get away with this in 2024?
Its a shame that we will never understand if Rodgers influenced this session with Everette. I'm sure it did.
The silence is absolutely deafening
An absolute gem. I am simply in awe of his therapy and his vulnerability
Paraphrasing his words, it profound when he said something along the line that he cannot relate to how animals feels because he's a person (human) , racist are so detached from reality in there ignorant.. If the tables was turned with racism as demonstrated by Jane Elliott ( brown eye blue eye experiment) the same racist will demand cry.more than babies for equal rights and justice.. Evil is racist