Self-help videos to help you understand: What is Tennis Elbow? What causes it? What's the best Treatment for Tennis Elbow?
Learn about Tennis Elbow's true root causes, why the "usual" treatments usually don't work - And how to break the vicious cycle without wasting another minute on superficial explanations, pointless inflammation chasing or hollow, miracle-cure promises.
Discover the best treatment for Tennis Elbow by understanding how muscles and tendons heal - so you can help that healing - rather than fighting it, like so many Tennis Elbow sufferers tragically make the mistake of doing (what I call "getting stuck in the Tennis Elbow Triple Trap.")
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arm wrestlers best friend is curcumin and type 1 collagen peptides and c vitamin period , with out you will get chronic inflammation and that’s the key for all kinds of diseases including cancer and arthritis
curcumin is reducing inflammation NOT preventing, you need very low inflammation to kik healing process
completely wrong about inflammation 👎👎👎
Suggestion: keep your hand away from your face during sleep. Keep the elbow extended and by your side or out to the side. Don't have a bent elbow as you sleep. You can build this into a habit so you don't bend your elbow while sleeping.
Good Lord the info on the net is crazy varied concerning tennis elbow. But NO ONE has addressed a very basic question. Should I do therapy exercises (tyler twists.squeeze ball,,,etc) when it causes pain. Not discomfort but pain. Like a little above moderate pain. Sharp pain. Why does no one address this?
I do address this. I don't believe that rehab exercises are the priority / 1st step when you have Tennis or Golfer's Elbow. I have a video on that here on my channel but I'm going to drop a link to my site where I go into detail about why: tenniselbowclassroom.com/exercises-tennis-elbow/
After waking up its pain so badly
This is ruining my life
1 year in. Extensive physio failed (with daily exercises), steroid injection failed... PRP next month and been told there's only 50% chance it will work. Really losing hope I can get rid of it.
Sorry to hear you're having such a tough time. I hope the video helped you better understand what the real challenge is. When you say "Physio" that suggests to me you may be in either Europe or Australia... Has anyone looked at your tendons with a Sonogram? They will often to that as a prelim/screening before doing PRP and, sometimes in Europe, just as a basic diagnostic.
@@TennisElbowClassroom Hello, good guess, I'm in the UK :) They conducted an ultrasound (which I think is the same) when I had steroid injections. It identified the damaged areas 7 months ago. Not had one since my relapse though. It's so frustrating. I massage, stretch and 'strengthen' every single day. I really want to avoid surgery, after two ops on an unrelated damaged shoulder, I don't think I could bear another 6 months post-op rehab :(
@@Dezzasheep Yes, Diagnostic Ultrasound is the same thing as Sonogram. It's too bad they gave you Cortisone and didn't go right to PRP. What was the nature of the damage?
@@TennisElbowClassroom sport related, so totally self inflicted! I practice Kendo, which involves lots of wrists and outstretched elbows. Had injections in both elbows. Left seems ok so far, right is a shitshow.
I had been babying this injury and finally did a light workout earlier in the week, amazed that it feels better! I think the blood flow is key. I even did forearm lifts lightly. Thank you, much appreciated. It is tricky to crack the case but great info.
You"re very welcome!!
6 years with both tennis elbows, i am a carpenter and i need to work
That's a challenging situation to be in considering the type of work you do.
Thank you! If there's no inflammation, then why is it referred to as "lateral epicondylitis?" "itis" typically refers to "inflammation of"- Therefore, lateral epicondylitis would indicate inflammation of the lateral epicondyle...???
Once a perspective, term and/or a protocol gets established in medical theory or practice it doesn't get changed or updated easily. It can get very entrenched. If you look deeper, however, you will see that there are updated terms to describe this condition, like: Epicondylosis (degenerative) and Epicondylopathy (non-specific - could be inflammatory or degenerative) And it's not that there is never any inflammation, it's that once this injury has become chronic, (and the healing process has failed) inflammation, which should have been present to kick off the healing process, is now largely absent and the degenerative process (tendon breakdown) has become the main issue - AND source of pain - BUT the symptoms are indistinguishable. I know this is hard for people to wrap their minds around at first. Big Pharm spends so much effort on demonizing inflammation. It's a symptom of the healing process at work or an immune response. It's not the problem.
@@TennisElbowClassroom Thanks for this comprehensive explanation!
@@mlm1014 You're welcome!
This is a fantastic rundown! I have been struggling with medial epicondylitis for 18 months. I'm 51 and play a ton of golf. I went through the hoops of PT (which I knew wasn't going to help), tried a cortisone injection (got a few weeks relief from it), then after an MRI they found a 7mm tear. (I haven't weight trained or played golf since Feb, and then I couldn't barely swing a club). I then opted for a PRP injection (which I suspected wasn't going to help and actually made the pain worse than before); I think the physician may have botched it. My sports med physician gave me the choice between PRP and surgery, so I figured I'd try the least invasive option first. Anyhow, I just got surgery a few days ago. They did tendon release and debridement. My surgeon told me that this was my last resort due to the state of those Tendons. I'm hoping I get good results.
It's been three weeks since your comment and surgery (thank you for the praise!) How are you doing now? Hopefully your postop acute symptoms are way down and you're doing well. Another 3 weeks and I imagine you'll really be noticing an improvement if all goes as expected. I'm not anti surgery. When you really need it you need it and Tennis Elbow surgery has a really high success rate, as I understand it.
I’ve been playing piano for 50 years, never any issues after working on a Rachmaninov prelude with long stretches I injured the area between third and fourth fingers in left hand. Went to the Dr he said stop playing for 6 months, in the meantime tape the third and fourth fingers together below the knuckle. Then do certain hand exercises. Every day for 20 mins. I’m into 2 months already. Fingers feel better but not 100%. This guy here isn’t really offering and treatment alternatives. I did get a cortisone shot but I won’t have anymore. I don’t think it’s a good idea. Just have to stop playing for a while. Common sense.
OK, what was the method we're all waiting?
I put the links in the description, but here you go: ► For Tennis Elbow: tenniselbowclassroom.com/tennis-elbow/ ► For Golfer's Elbow: tenniselbowclassroom.com/golfers-elbow/
I'm a drywall finisher . Constantly banging screws in and jabbing loose Sheetrock free . Holding my hawk with my left hand and use a trowel with my right . I use cortisone shots . I gotta work .
You've had multiple Cortisone Shots?? Please watch my video on Cortisone: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qneulZiemMqbeMo.html
@@TennisElbowClassroom yes 2 each spot
Tendons get all the action, all your muscles attached to it 😢
Hello for elbow stiff after surgery may you help
My chair armrest is the same height as my keyboard/mouse tray. Custom made it that way myself. Is that a bad idea? Been using it for almost two years now and it somehow (i think) relieved my left tennis elbow pain (due to bad angle) when I'm working on my computer. My typing/mouse hands/forearms are just flat horizontal. Elbow angle 90 and slightly above when I lean back a little. Will it cause me problems in the future?
I think arm rests are a bad idea in general. I took mine off day one.
Thanks for nothin 😢
You're welcome!
I took 2 years off the gym+ chiropractor, came back and still have it
Rest is not the answer once you're past the earliest stage and and it has become chronic. You have to be more proactive than that. Tendon problems are not like other injuries. You're usually facing a degenerative issue that no amount of time alone will necessarily help because the healing process tends to stall and fail. Tendons in this state often need a lot of "stimulation" and their muscles often need a lot of work to release their adhesions and chronic tension. I teach advanced massage therapy techniques in my program to deal with these issues. (Links in description if you want to check out - Spoiler: It's not free. This is what I do for a living.)
So this was a commercial
If you call "a commercial" something that actually teaches you something valuable first.
You did a great job of explaining the entire concept in a very simple layman's language. The tennis elbow not only hurts your muscles but also creates mental stress as it derails one from all the core activities. I have been suffering for over 7 weeks and it is settling down. I hope there is a quicker mechanism for healing this injury. Never in my wildest dreams, I thought accidentally hitting my elbow on a door post have such ramifications on all my activities.
Yes, hitting your tendon insertion at your Lateral Epicondyle on a door or something can really trigger a major reaction! However, I tend to suspect when the injury sounds as bad as yours does that there was a pattern already building up in the muscles and tendons and the tendon "whack" pushed it over the edge.
EXCELENT!!!!!!
YOU FORGOT COULD/WARM SHOWERS! BEST WARM UP!
I share a lot of his story, pianist, started fine, 3 years later, (around 2018-19) pain in the thumbs, later in the pinkies, in the palm as well, and at the end also in the wrist. I did calistenics for one and a half years, then a half year in the gym and pain was terrible. I did piano and calistenics at the same time. I also have hyper-flexibility and double joints (in the hand), or that's what I think the name is, basically my last falanx of all the fingers can bend in both directions, specially my thumb. I think this is very bad for piano and sports. Both my passions :( At that time I didn't know why the pain. I had a terrible deppression, I had to stop lifting and I coincidentally could't play piano regularly for 1 year. The pain slowly went away, meanwhile I went to doctors, I had to wait 6 months to get citated to the cardiologyst to discard possible cardiopathies, to the genetist (but this was cancelled), I went to quiropractics, traumatologyst (who said I was serotonin defiency) but didn0t help at all... So a year later I was so depressed and demotivated in life that I lost contact with my friends (this was during china global thing), next year I quited my university. Next summer I started recovering my sanity and started eating healthy, more than ever, started playing piano seriously again, and I fell into the inflamation speech. Then 1 year later (2023) I started calisthenics again, with less intensity, and 3 months ago (February 2024) started going to a gym 4 times a week... 1 week ago my thumbs started hurting again, so I beg you, what should I do? I've seen the whole interview, the things I learnt are to try to help the body heal, don't get rid of inflamation, to help blood flow, to warm my hands with water, to learn how to massage them (I need help with this one), and to not take anti-inflamatories. And that I need to break down the adhesions (I don't know how either :( , or where to look for). Should I stop playing the piano until I'm healed? Thank you thank you, this was a very relieving cup of hope to find your channel, and this pianist talking about something I tought I was the only one dealing with.
Thank you for so much info in just a short time. Really helpful
contridicting your other videos .. in which you said tennis elbow does not have inflammation ... turns out you're the scam
YES!!!! You caught me! I'M the SCAAAAAAAMMMM! Ha, ha, ha!!!!
What about tennis elbow caused by frequent table wiping?
You can get Tennis (or Golfer's) Elbow from practically anything that involves arm use.
I don't know what's going on with me but I've got bicep tendonitis in my shoulder but now I've just tried doing internal rotation with dumbell and my forearm near my elbow is painful too touch. And elbow popping too have I got more than one injury going on here
Long Head Biceps Tendon issues (and especially Supraspinatus Rotator Cuff Tendon issues) VERY often result in Tennis Elbow. I believe we compensate a great deal in the forearm for these issues and that sets us up for Tennis Elbow (and sometimes Golfer's Elbow )
@@TennisElbowClassroom god damn it still 2 months on and no better
@@TennisElbowClassroom you think bpc157 tb500 will help all these injuries. Supraspinatus tendon and tricep tendonitis? And the forarm pain?
*Ice Pack it 6-hours a day, it should settle and vanish in 2-Months!!*
How many months will it take me to recover completely?
I have no idea. It's all over the map and not predictable. See my controversial video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/c3ee1MGkhrLXorQ.html
Hate your videos talk talk talk talk talk talk ….. talk talk talk ….. but nothing useful said ….. go sell used cars
Wanna buy a 1987 Oldsmobile only ever drive to church by a little old lady on Sundays?
Wtf man tell me here!
Hi sir I was suffering from the same for two months then my doctor gave me steroids injection I got recovered but after 2 months I felt the pain again and @same time I went to Dr bu after taking so much medicine still no relief...any suggestions 🙏
Think 10 times before you do a cortison shot. If you do have tennis elbow and you know the reason for it, most likely getting the shot will make it worst long term
Yes, that's good advice and here's why: (video on risks of Cortisone Shots) kzread.info/dash/bejne/aZmqtMOep8XSmco.html
Thanks
Thanks, ice didn’t stop my pain at all
Sometimes ice can be a better short-term alternative to taking a bunch of meds if you're in extreme pain and need to do something! It sometime doesn't work even for that, though, and as I explain in the video, it's not going to help anyone heal.
Nice presentation, thanks
what about using a brace just while you're at work I have very minimum pain in the mornings But halfway through work my elbow is burning I'm wondering if that is slowing down the healing process
It depends on the work. If it's heavy, physical work, like construction, then, yes, temporarily - but even then, it's not a long term solution and is particular a bad idea to use for long periods when doing low-intensity repetitive work, like computing.
The ENTIRE video is him telling how everyone else's treatments are crap. He puts forth not one single alternative.
Heavy reverse curls has was the culprit for me.
Sorry to hear. Those get a lot of people. Not a terrible exercise in general but easy to overdo.
This dude is BRUTAL to listen to.
Don't be a dick.
Don't be a dick.
You looking to be entertained or informed?
Hard exercise when you get older is a catch 22. It increases your power, and the more your power increases the greater the strain on your connective tissues.
51:10 Optimal diet ? Allen you don't know what the optimal diet is ? Vegan, non acid, with little to no processed food. Milk products are acidifying and promoting inflammation, animal and animal products are also to ban for the same reasons. Fruit juices and tomatoes are also to avoid.
I eat that way myself, but I don't believe I know what the optimal diet is for anyone else. I'm not convinced it's even vegan. That's just how I eat. I do believe there are MANY generally bad food choices, like, as you mentioned, processed food in general. High Fructose Corn Syrup. Sugar, in general. Yes, fruit juices, especially if not fresh squeezed.
49:00 there is a huge misunderstanding: warmup is not about having warm tissues, but to have the physiology started, in particular the aerobic glycolyse. Allen, why did not you react to that ?
How does one do this? Slow warm ups on the piano?
@@joshuagarcia2642 Anything not too fast and not too strong, on piano or not. Like a progressive wake up.
I get that but heat seems to be very helpful when someone already has a tendon problem and Andrew was describing his protocol, which he felt worked for him and apparently wanted to recommend. Yes, "warming up" is really about motion and gradually activating physiological processes to prepare ones tissues for greater load, intensity or duration, but physical heat can be helpful for some people who have tendon issues.
I had problems at the shoulder, and could not be solved with medecine for months. I solved it with Yoga practice, ie., reinforcement and stretching.
Awesome!
This was a pretty useless video. More of an advertisement than anything else!
The MRI was so painful. It was required for my surgeon
Me too 30 mins of hell
Why is it painful ?
@@nickfantoni5576 because your elbow is stuck in the machine putting pressure on it for 30 min.
PRP takes six months to show its effects. Did you factor that in?
I don't think we have enough evidence to know how long PRP takes - or if it helps a significant percentage of the time, so, no, I didn't factor that in.
I’m a personal trainer and have had tennis elbow for 3 months. I’m so discouraged as I don’t know if it will ever fully heal. I think I got it simply by overuse for my job and heavy volume upper body training. Thank you for this channel, I am learning so much.
hey, how is your injury now? Better i hope