I wonder how expensive it is to get property insurance on Catalina.
@eddieds3126 күн бұрын
Not a question of could they swim to the island. But why would they swim the island
@patrickskelly75208 күн бұрын
I know where the whale cave is. I have a picture of the carving. If you know you know.
@talesfromchannelislands8 күн бұрын
We know.
@markselsor604810 күн бұрын
Yater Surfboards had a shop on La Jolla blvd. at Bird Rock ave. in 1960. Three friends (one at a time) bought 9'6" - identical dimentions - boards there. In those days surfboards were often without pigment (cheaper) - just a sticker of the maker athwart 3/4 the way aft. Yater's boards were held in high esteem by all. Many thanks to R. Yater - for his craftmanship & know how - much fun was the result of his efforts. Wishing him great good fortune. Peace.
@talesfromchannelislands10 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@modalmixture10 күн бұрын
I had a chance to visit San Miguel on a September weekend during a rare heatwave. My friend and I had done several backpacking trips on the islands, indeed we felt very attached to them, but had yet to visit SMI. Between the surf landing and the multiple trips up Nidever Canyon carrying our water, it felt like an adventure just getting there. After a beautiful day hiking to Point Bennett - surely one of the most special places in all of California - the weather turned HOT. It was so hot that I spent an entire afternoon in the ranger station library, reading Betsy's account of her childhood and learning about the history of the island. While it surely must have been a rough life in many ways, Betsy wrote fondly about the island landscape as a magical setting for many adventures. That night, it was so clear and still that it looked like you could reach out and touch the lights on the mainland. The next day I visited the ruins of the ranch house and tried to imagine what it would have looked like. In the late afternoon, the sun lit up the fields of giant coreopsis and dudleya by the Cabrillo monument, and Santa Rosa turned golden in the distance. On another visit to the library I discovered Islands through Time, about the incredible archaeology of San Miguel and Santa Rosa, some of the oldest evidence of humans in North America. If I ever get out there again, I'd love to visit the point where Herbie is buried. San Miguel is truly special. What looks like a barren lump of sand from the air hides so much fascinating history and ecology.
@LaLadybug201110 күн бұрын
Island of the Blue Dolphins was my absolute favorite book as a child. My Dad's job required frequent moves in my childhood elementary school-years, so I identified with the main character because I was always the new girl and in some towns/schools the kids weren't very friendly with new kids. I didn't care one rip because books were my escape and that book stayed at the front of my bookshelf-it was read so many times the cover was worn on the corners. I rediscovered the book when I saw a copy in a thrift store as a 45 year old woman, and yes-I read it again and loved it even more. The two videos about the woman on the island has just captivated me and now, of course, I want to read the book again and see if I can discover something new that maybe I missed in those dozen other reads! Hats off to the archeologists from a frustrated, wanna-be archeologist that grew up and became a criminal investigator. :-) I dig for answers instead of artifacts but it is somewhat the same-telling someone's story.
@kshepard5212 күн бұрын
George Nidever is my guess.
@talesfromchannelislands9 күн бұрын
They coined "Herbie" as the King..
@philruitcel269612 күн бұрын
Tim Vail is the Group Vet for Los Caballeros. He grew up on Santa Rosa Island. His family owned it. They also owned the Vail Ranch/including Vail Lake in Temecula Ca. The old bunk house is still there. There is a lot of history on that Island...including the discovery of the remains of giants. Back in 1973 some friends and I leased a 28' Erickson from Newport and sailed over. we hit a school of albacore off the southwest tip where we brought in six each. We had to buy a couple extra ice chests to hold our catch. You can still catch 8 lb white sea bass off the dock there... Amazing
@elsakristina268913 күн бұрын
We read the book in class for school and then watched the movie in class in the fourth grade when I was ten and I never forgot either of them. I was fascinated by this story and I still am as an adult, especially with all the new information that’s come to light about the Lone Woman and her people in recent years.
@talesfromchannelislands12 күн бұрын
Glad you found the video!
@elsakristina268912 күн бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands ^^
@Frankie_the_cat15 күн бұрын
Tonva/ Gabrielano people still live
@Frankie_the_cat15 күн бұрын
But yet still not federally recognized
@nicholasreyling127816 күн бұрын
I remember reading this as a kid it was one of my favorite books
@fado79217 күн бұрын
Man, your listeners and viewers ar not idiots!!
@Rocksider252517 күн бұрын
I'm not sure if they can be considered first natives if they found a femur bone on Santa Rosa Island dated 10k years old. I just started studying this today so......
@neatchipops342819 күн бұрын
Seems to be a lot of redwood available at some point... it must have drifted onto a beach.
@gointothedogs463419 күн бұрын
I read the book years ago. It left me with quite a feeling of needing to know more. It's wonderful to learn more is being discovered about this woman.
@kevindelaney195119 күн бұрын
Great piece. Amazing archeology. Thanks for sharing.
@talesfromchannelislands17 күн бұрын
Thanks for saying...Glad you enjoyed!
@SumNumber21 күн бұрын
Cool. I have been to that island building roads for the military. I wonder if we disturbed anything . Thanks for the share. :O)
@talesfromchannelislands20 күн бұрын
Col, What year was that?
@uktenatsila916821 күн бұрын
I had the great honor of meeting Dr. Erlandson whilst working with Hutash on the Bacara build near Bell Canyon north Goleta. Awesome, dude! Thank you for the video.
@talesfromchannelislands19 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jamescuratalo260922 күн бұрын
I read that hunters who traveled between the islands and the main land are the likely ones who placed the caches on San Nicolas as well as other Channel Islands. That would be totally consistent with the practices of nomadic hunters throughout the history of the world. It is a very romantic notion to attribute this cache to an indigenous female Robinson Crusoe! Of course it’s possible that she’s responsible but that would require a real wild stretch of the imagination outside any scientific approach.
@talesfromchannelislands19 күн бұрын
It's a interesting mystery.
@eduardotirado83924 күн бұрын
The Great Whites out there must be the size of special ed school buses….
@RuralLife528 күн бұрын
Hello👍👍👍👍❤❤❤
@AntonioPeralesdelHierroАй бұрын
When H. Houser interviewed the participants in a Californio Spanish/Mexican celebration he made sure to 'joke' with them "You arent here to rob us, are you❓" Stereotypes can have a long life... 🍷😏
@reddiver7293Ай бұрын
I am offended by this racist theft of ...nah, just kidding 😅😅😅
@delang65Ай бұрын
Amazing
@talesfromchannelislandsАй бұрын
We think so too.
@dariosanchez8421Ай бұрын
San Nicolas Island not San Nicholas.
@f9qoАй бұрын
I've been out there both diving and looking for surf. Never found decent waves, but the diving is fantastic and where I had my scuba certification dive. I'll never forget jumping off the boat and clearing my mask and looking down into beautiful clear water full of living creatures. A different word from simply diving off the coast. I never experienced sharks there, but definitely my own stupidity along with the guys I was with on a small boat looking for surf. Low on gas, fortunately a fisherman gave us some or we might not have made it back to civilization. Cool isolation out there for sure.
@talesfromchannelislandsАй бұрын
Just as it’s meant to be out there, one Big adventure.. thank you for sharing your story.
@carlosarce6906Ай бұрын
I am surprised that he has not made a film about some Nicholas Island? Back in the early 80s a world record was set there at 55 feet. Which is also part of the channel islands chain off of California.
@talesfromchannelislandsАй бұрын
Access is very difficult. The Navy doesn’t want you there either.
@matthewmann8969Ай бұрын
And the thing is most of the tribe was killed not by Europeans but by Aleutians yeah.
@isilderАй бұрын
Drippy treasure of oak island plot.. drip it out, wait till next episide to find outif we till yiu what we should have already told you !
@spankyharland9845Ай бұрын
well, I am going to bury a box of my junk into the side of a mountain so maybe in a century from now a group of folks will dig it out and I will be happy when the have archeological orgasms sorting through my stuff.🤓
@JW007100Ай бұрын
My father was suppose to go on a training flight but another instructor needed more time so my Dad stayed aboard the carrier USS Block Island. This is a brief account of what happened that fateful day. On 10 Feb 1945 Block Island departed with DD 779 Douglas H. Fox for 10 days operational training off San Clemente and San Nicolas islands. On 14 Feb 1945 the planes from CVE 106 were to conduct strikes with live ammunition against a bombing area on San Clemente. Dobbin led the morning flight but found the weather unsatisfactory and returned to the ship. One plane crashed due to engine failure but the pilot was rescued. That afternoon six Avengers, three Corsairs, and two Hellcats were launched to continue training. A severe storm approached rapidly so Block Island recalled all aircraft. One Avenger successfully landed but the others were unable to land so they were vectored to San Nicolas about 120 miles away. The weather prevented landing and as a result eight aircrew and seven planes were lost.
@talesfromchannelislands22 күн бұрын
Wow! Is your father still with us?
@JW00710021 күн бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands He passed away 2 yrs ago at the age of 98. Several planes crashed on San Nicholas Island killing all the pilots the other planes tried to get to the mainland but they crashed as well. A total of 7 Grumman TBMs with crew, 3 Corsairs and 2 Hellcats. Afterwards the carrier went on to Hawaii then entered combat at Saipan then Okinawa and went on to New Guinea to support the Aussies and later to the Philippines to pickup POWs there. The Channel islands supported smaller versions of mammoths, and was a key Indigenous trading point from the islands to the coast and all the way into the plains. When the Spanish came and removed the local population it completely destroyed that link that had existed for a very long time.
@kshepard52Ай бұрын
San Miguel is an isolated, bleak, and windy island, pretty much treeless, and located nearly 40 miles offshore from Santa Barbara. It's wild, with sea lion and elephant seal rookeries that bring in white sharks seasonally. I can't imagine living there.
@talesfromchannelislandsАй бұрын
It can be extremely beautiful, and the right time of year without wind..
@talesfromchannelislandsАй бұрын
Ahhhh auto correct…at the right time
@roostershooter76Ай бұрын
So, is it a stretch to ask "How do we know it was a known woman"? This is the first I've heard of this.
@talesfromchannelislandsАй бұрын
we don’t, it’s just a hypothesis.
@roostershooter76Ай бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands You must mention that it the video, and prior to stating your claims. After all, some individuals will run with this and claim it is fact, when it is just a theory.
@talesfromchannelislandsАй бұрын
@@roostershooter76 Got it! Thank for the heads-up, Btw, they are not my claims.
@wrmorris2Ай бұрын
Isla vista ememetry 1980's was were i 1st red island of the blue dolphin...
@inyobillАй бұрын
what a treasure. thanks for sharing.
@talesfromchannelislandsАй бұрын
Our pleasure!
@lynnmk2384Ай бұрын
Beautiful things that you guy’s found just beautiful they are
@repubseatdickАй бұрын
Retitle : White folks discover native burial boxes,disturbs them and are proud.
@keithwhittington1322Ай бұрын
What a story! Thanks.
@talesfromchannelislandsАй бұрын
Thanks for listening
@618BАй бұрын
That's it ? What was this discovery all about ?
@talesfromchannelislandsАй бұрын
Some times small things have big meaning.
@CarpenterdaneАй бұрын
This is incredible! Its wonderful to have these items of the lost tribe that lived there.
@talesfromchannelislandsАй бұрын
Wonder ones they where!?
@dvidgonzales8376Ай бұрын
When a child went on a tour there and may have spent a cold night in her outcropping, just dirt ..a guy had a mall place on the island.
@talesfromchannelislandsАй бұрын
Must’ve been quite the experience!
@jenford7078Ай бұрын
The Island of the Blue Dolphin is a book that we taught to our students with emotional/behavioral; disorders, they could discuss it to no end & loved it, one student told me he loved it because it shows that you need to be able to take care of yourself and not count on or trust others.... This is so interesting.
@ianrobbinsАй бұрын
I was so excited to have stumbled over this ancient KZread video about some archaeologists who had stumbled over some artifacts which a woman stumbled over while doing her thing. Obviously someone out a lot of time j to making this video...but who were they? We'll never know, but the video resolution wasn't common until at least 2020 AD
@vickilindberg6336Ай бұрын
I read about her 50+ years ago. It was an amazing story.
@gointothedogs463419 күн бұрын
That's about when I read it also.
@philipoconnor4263Ай бұрын
They are Americans. They are currently holding elections where the Presidential candidates are a choice between Biden and Trump from a population of 284 million people. They are a Christian superstitious nation and yet you are looking for reason and rational in their behaviour.
@barnettmcgowan8978Ай бұрын
You know you're cool as F when Joe Walsh says you're cool.
@talesfromchannelislandsАй бұрын
Ha..Ha.. True!
@srf2112Ай бұрын
What an incredible mystery. Why were these items gathered and buried? When? By whom? I love history.
@talesfromchannelislandsАй бұрын
Me Tooo.
@patrickskelly7520Ай бұрын
I was stationed on that island. Lots of history. Cave with carving. Tools found.
@talesfromchannelislandsАй бұрын
Wow! What year was that?
@mikeb1039Ай бұрын
1:38 that's no battleship. Man I wish I could've sailed with Crosby, even for a couple of hours
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I wonder how expensive it is to get property insurance on Catalina.
Not a question of could they swim to the island. But why would they swim the island
I know where the whale cave is. I have a picture of the carving. If you know you know.
We know.
Yater Surfboards had a shop on La Jolla blvd. at Bird Rock ave. in 1960. Three friends (one at a time) bought 9'6" - identical dimentions - boards there. In those days surfboards were often without pigment (cheaper) - just a sticker of the maker athwart 3/4 the way aft. Yater's boards were held in high esteem by all. Many thanks to R. Yater - for his craftmanship & know how - much fun was the result of his efforts. Wishing him great good fortune. Peace.
Thanks for sharing!
I had a chance to visit San Miguel on a September weekend during a rare heatwave. My friend and I had done several backpacking trips on the islands, indeed we felt very attached to them, but had yet to visit SMI. Between the surf landing and the multiple trips up Nidever Canyon carrying our water, it felt like an adventure just getting there. After a beautiful day hiking to Point Bennett - surely one of the most special places in all of California - the weather turned HOT. It was so hot that I spent an entire afternoon in the ranger station library, reading Betsy's account of her childhood and learning about the history of the island. While it surely must have been a rough life in many ways, Betsy wrote fondly about the island landscape as a magical setting for many adventures. That night, it was so clear and still that it looked like you could reach out and touch the lights on the mainland. The next day I visited the ruins of the ranch house and tried to imagine what it would have looked like. In the late afternoon, the sun lit up the fields of giant coreopsis and dudleya by the Cabrillo monument, and Santa Rosa turned golden in the distance. On another visit to the library I discovered Islands through Time, about the incredible archaeology of San Miguel and Santa Rosa, some of the oldest evidence of humans in North America. If I ever get out there again, I'd love to visit the point where Herbie is buried. San Miguel is truly special. What looks like a barren lump of sand from the air hides so much fascinating history and ecology.
Island of the Blue Dolphins was my absolute favorite book as a child. My Dad's job required frequent moves in my childhood elementary school-years, so I identified with the main character because I was always the new girl and in some towns/schools the kids weren't very friendly with new kids. I didn't care one rip because books were my escape and that book stayed at the front of my bookshelf-it was read so many times the cover was worn on the corners. I rediscovered the book when I saw a copy in a thrift store as a 45 year old woman, and yes-I read it again and loved it even more. The two videos about the woman on the island has just captivated me and now, of course, I want to read the book again and see if I can discover something new that maybe I missed in those dozen other reads! Hats off to the archeologists from a frustrated, wanna-be archeologist that grew up and became a criminal investigator. :-) I dig for answers instead of artifacts but it is somewhat the same-telling someone's story.
George Nidever is my guess.
They coined "Herbie" as the King..
Tim Vail is the Group Vet for Los Caballeros. He grew up on Santa Rosa Island. His family owned it. They also owned the Vail Ranch/including Vail Lake in Temecula Ca. The old bunk house is still there. There is a lot of history on that Island...including the discovery of the remains of giants. Back in 1973 some friends and I leased a 28' Erickson from Newport and sailed over. we hit a school of albacore off the southwest tip where we brought in six each. We had to buy a couple extra ice chests to hold our catch. You can still catch 8 lb white sea bass off the dock there... Amazing
We read the book in class for school and then watched the movie in class in the fourth grade when I was ten and I never forgot either of them. I was fascinated by this story and I still am as an adult, especially with all the new information that’s come to light about the Lone Woman and her people in recent years.
Glad you found the video!
@@talesfromchannelislands ^^
Tonva/ Gabrielano people still live
But yet still not federally recognized
I remember reading this as a kid it was one of my favorite books
Man, your listeners and viewers ar not idiots!!
I'm not sure if they can be considered first natives if they found a femur bone on Santa Rosa Island dated 10k years old. I just started studying this today so......
Seems to be a lot of redwood available at some point... it must have drifted onto a beach.
I read the book years ago. It left me with quite a feeling of needing to know more. It's wonderful to learn more is being discovered about this woman.
Great piece. Amazing archeology. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for saying...Glad you enjoyed!
Cool. I have been to that island building roads for the military. I wonder if we disturbed anything . Thanks for the share. :O)
Col, What year was that?
I had the great honor of meeting Dr. Erlandson whilst working with Hutash on the Bacara build near Bell Canyon north Goleta. Awesome, dude! Thank you for the video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I read that hunters who traveled between the islands and the main land are the likely ones who placed the caches on San Nicolas as well as other Channel Islands. That would be totally consistent with the practices of nomadic hunters throughout the history of the world. It is a very romantic notion to attribute this cache to an indigenous female Robinson Crusoe! Of course it’s possible that she’s responsible but that would require a real wild stretch of the imagination outside any scientific approach.
It's a interesting mystery.
The Great Whites out there must be the size of special ed school buses….
Hello👍👍👍👍❤❤❤
When H. Houser interviewed the participants in a Californio Spanish/Mexican celebration he made sure to 'joke' with them "You arent here to rob us, are you❓" Stereotypes can have a long life... 🍷😏
I am offended by this racist theft of ...nah, just kidding 😅😅😅
Amazing
We think so too.
San Nicolas Island not San Nicholas.
I've been out there both diving and looking for surf. Never found decent waves, but the diving is fantastic and where I had my scuba certification dive. I'll never forget jumping off the boat and clearing my mask and looking down into beautiful clear water full of living creatures. A different word from simply diving off the coast. I never experienced sharks there, but definitely my own stupidity along with the guys I was with on a small boat looking for surf. Low on gas, fortunately a fisherman gave us some or we might not have made it back to civilization. Cool isolation out there for sure.
Just as it’s meant to be out there, one Big adventure.. thank you for sharing your story.
I am surprised that he has not made a film about some Nicholas Island? Back in the early 80s a world record was set there at 55 feet. Which is also part of the channel islands chain off of California.
Access is very difficult. The Navy doesn’t want you there either.
And the thing is most of the tribe was killed not by Europeans but by Aleutians yeah.
Drippy treasure of oak island plot.. drip it out, wait till next episide to find outif we till yiu what we should have already told you !
well, I am going to bury a box of my junk into the side of a mountain so maybe in a century from now a group of folks will dig it out and I will be happy when the have archeological orgasms sorting through my stuff.🤓
My father was suppose to go on a training flight but another instructor needed more time so my Dad stayed aboard the carrier USS Block Island. This is a brief account of what happened that fateful day. On 10 Feb 1945 Block Island departed with DD 779 Douglas H. Fox for 10 days operational training off San Clemente and San Nicolas islands. On 14 Feb 1945 the planes from CVE 106 were to conduct strikes with live ammunition against a bombing area on San Clemente. Dobbin led the morning flight but found the weather unsatisfactory and returned to the ship. One plane crashed due to engine failure but the pilot was rescued. That afternoon six Avengers, three Corsairs, and two Hellcats were launched to continue training. A severe storm approached rapidly so Block Island recalled all aircraft. One Avenger successfully landed but the others were unable to land so they were vectored to San Nicolas about 120 miles away. The weather prevented landing and as a result eight aircrew and seven planes were lost.
Wow! Is your father still with us?
@@talesfromchannelislands He passed away 2 yrs ago at the age of 98. Several planes crashed on San Nicholas Island killing all the pilots the other planes tried to get to the mainland but they crashed as well. A total of 7 Grumman TBMs with crew, 3 Corsairs and 2 Hellcats. Afterwards the carrier went on to Hawaii then entered combat at Saipan then Okinawa and went on to New Guinea to support the Aussies and later to the Philippines to pickup POWs there. The Channel islands supported smaller versions of mammoths, and was a key Indigenous trading point from the islands to the coast and all the way into the plains. When the Spanish came and removed the local population it completely destroyed that link that had existed for a very long time.
San Miguel is an isolated, bleak, and windy island, pretty much treeless, and located nearly 40 miles offshore from Santa Barbara. It's wild, with sea lion and elephant seal rookeries that bring in white sharks seasonally. I can't imagine living there.
It can be extremely beautiful, and the right time of year without wind..
Ahhhh auto correct…at the right time
So, is it a stretch to ask "How do we know it was a known woman"? This is the first I've heard of this.
we don’t, it’s just a hypothesis.
@@talesfromchannelislands You must mention that it the video, and prior to stating your claims. After all, some individuals will run with this and claim it is fact, when it is just a theory.
@@roostershooter76 Got it! Thank for the heads-up, Btw, they are not my claims.
Isla vista ememetry 1980's was were i 1st red island of the blue dolphin...
what a treasure. thanks for sharing.
Our pleasure!
Beautiful things that you guy’s found just beautiful they are
Retitle : White folks discover native burial boxes,disturbs them and are proud.
What a story! Thanks.
Thanks for listening
That's it ? What was this discovery all about ?
Some times small things have big meaning.
This is incredible! Its wonderful to have these items of the lost tribe that lived there.
Wonder ones they where!?
When a child went on a tour there and may have spent a cold night in her outcropping, just dirt ..a guy had a mall place on the island.
Must’ve been quite the experience!
The Island of the Blue Dolphin is a book that we taught to our students with emotional/behavioral; disorders, they could discuss it to no end & loved it, one student told me he loved it because it shows that you need to be able to take care of yourself and not count on or trust others.... This is so interesting.
I was so excited to have stumbled over this ancient KZread video about some archaeologists who had stumbled over some artifacts which a woman stumbled over while doing her thing. Obviously someone out a lot of time j to making this video...but who were they? We'll never know, but the video resolution wasn't common until at least 2020 AD
I read about her 50+ years ago. It was an amazing story.
That's about when I read it also.
They are Americans. They are currently holding elections where the Presidential candidates are a choice between Biden and Trump from a population of 284 million people. They are a Christian superstitious nation and yet you are looking for reason and rational in their behaviour.
You know you're cool as F when Joe Walsh says you're cool.
Ha..Ha.. True!
What an incredible mystery. Why were these items gathered and buried? When? By whom? I love history.
Me Tooo.
I was stationed on that island. Lots of history. Cave with carving. Tools found.
Wow! What year was that?
1:38 that's no battleship. Man I wish I could've sailed with Crosby, even for a couple of hours
Stand in line! Nice enough to meet him once…