Did the Lone Woman leave some things behind on San Nicholas Island? ( West of the West) Part 1
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@grumpy3543Ай бұрын
Oh my god. This was my favorite story. I have flown over that island as a captain on a flight to Hawaii. I looked down at that island so many times and told my passengers that they were looking at the island that was in their memories of the island from the book. Thank you for this. I will watch all your episodes.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed…Every time I leave Santa Barbara I’m hoping that it’s not foggy. Over the years I’ve flown many times on big aircraft and small and never seeing San Nicolas… until I took a trip to Maui! I could actually see the full island… it was a wonderful moment.
@pamfriedly5158
12 күн бұрын
I just love this book. I'm so excited for you! 8>)
@grumpy3543
12 күн бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands I’m so glad that you got to see it. Yes. You get a great view on the way to Maui. If it’s clear. Which is rare.
@uktenatsila916821 күн бұрын
I had the great honor of meeting Dr. Erlandson whilst working with Hutash on the Bacara build near Bell Canyon north Goleta. Awesome, dude! Thank you for the video.
@talesfromchannelislands
20 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@emeryjayne Жыл бұрын
I just finished rereading Island of the Blue Dolphins, and this is so cool to see!
@talesfromchannelislands
Жыл бұрын
There is so much more to be found!
@constitutionallyconscious165
2 ай бұрын
@talesfromchannelislands I hope you guys consult and bring tribal representation with you while surveying, data collecting CEQA, NAGPRA, NEPA and such.
@merk9569
Ай бұрын
Unlike other books that I cherished as a child, I haven’t read it in the last 62 years. I still feel like I was with her and Rontu on that island and felt her pain. I researched her life as an adult and was horrified by her death so soon after coming to the mainland. Later, when I gave a copy to my daughters, I couldn’t bring myself to read it. I think that having grown up on an island with the love and support of my parents and siblings, surrounded by friends, I found her situation unbearably sad. It had a profound effect on me and I realize now it probably influenced the importance I place on loved ones. For me, family and friends were everything.
@gregoryallen0001
Ай бұрын
i read it as a child then read it to my child! then i googled it aaieeeeee
@susyclearwater1920
13 күн бұрын
❤@@talesfromchannelislands
@Zookysmom2 ай бұрын
Read The Island of the Blue Dolphins by Scott Odell. The "Lone Woman" is the surviving sister of the brother and sister Native Americans last living there.
@loveofsea1 Жыл бұрын
I recommend the book Shrouded Heritage by Tom Holm, it is an historical account of the early inhabitants of the island. I love that island, i've spent over a year anchored there since 1993.
@talesfromchannelislands
Жыл бұрын
Wow very cool. Where did you anchor?
@kccorliss39222 ай бұрын
I was lucky to visit san clemente island. Incredible that people were there for 8000 years
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
What took you there?
@Quantrills.Raiders
Ай бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands a dolphin
@chuckb3489
Ай бұрын
I know what took him there, a either a sea knight or sea stallion.
@doriancorliss3796
Ай бұрын
@@chuckb3489 Actually it was a roughly 30 person contracted plane. Would have loved a helo ride though....
@JohnViinalass-lc1ow2 ай бұрын
thank you for so sensibly working these finds...the person who hid them must either have been the terrified owner, or the terrified thief, trying to escape discovery and judgement.
@HoratioNegerskyАй бұрын
Dude what, those fishhooks are incredible.
@SpoonieDАй бұрын
Wow. Dr. Jon Erlandson was one of my favorite professors at the UofO. Great archeology class! Go Ducks!!!!☺️💚
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
So cool!
@patrickskelly7520Ай бұрын
I was stationed on that island. Lots of history. Cave with carving. Tools found.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Wow! What year was that?
@nat9909Ай бұрын
Somehow, I remember reading the island of the blue dolphin when I was a kid. Imagine my shock right now. It was based on a true story, and there are even artifacts?🤯
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
All True!
@dr59103 ай бұрын
I'm a Retired Federal Agent Fisheries, went out there on an abalone poaching/drug incident, very intresting area
@talesfromchannelislands
2 ай бұрын
Wow! I bet you have stories..How was the crossing to SNI. I am possibly going in early winter…
@dr5910
2 ай бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands I flew in a USN twin engine prop out of Pt Mague airbase, 1 hour flight approximately, I wasn't allowed to talk to other passengers
@talesfromchannelislands
2 ай бұрын
@@dr5910 Ahhh Gotcha...Well if you ever want to share your experience let me know. Instudio8@mac.com
@eatwhatukiii2532Ай бұрын
I’m really surprised they handled these things barehanded, when recent DNA testing techniques now allow for ancient DNA to be extracted from objects and even soil. We might have known who (ethnically, perhaps even gotten a family lineage) it was that hand-carved the pieces. Very interesting find, regardless. I look forward to seeing what else they find on the island.
@willbephore3086
Ай бұрын
I had the same thought
@hybriddyneguy2 ай бұрын
I built the missile test site out there in the mid 80's, I spent countless hours looking for her cave on my time off.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
I would have liked to do that…Tell me more. Instudio8@mac.com
@hybriddyneguy
Ай бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands There were artifacts in the airport museum that were 10,000 years B.C. Beads and abalone fishhooks.
@JW007100Ай бұрын
My father was suppose to go on a training flight but another instructor needed more time so my Dad stayed aboard the carrier USS Block Island. This is a brief account of what happened that fateful day. On 10 Feb 1945 Block Island departed with DD 779 Douglas H. Fox for 10 days operational training off San Clemente and San Nicolas islands. On 14 Feb 1945 the planes from CVE 106 were to conduct strikes with live ammunition against a bombing area on San Clemente. Dobbin led the morning flight but found the weather unsatisfactory and returned to the ship. One plane crashed due to engine failure but the pilot was rescued. That afternoon six Avengers, three Corsairs, and two Hellcats were launched to continue training. A severe storm approached rapidly so Block Island recalled all aircraft. One Avenger successfully landed but the others were unable to land so they were vectored to San Nicolas about 120 miles away. The weather prevented landing and as a result eight aircrew and seven planes were lost.
@talesfromchannelislands
22 күн бұрын
Wow! Is your father still with us?
@JW007100
22 күн бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands He passed away 2 yrs ago at the age of 98. Several planes crashed on San Nicholas Island killing all the pilots the other planes tried to get to the mainland but they crashed as well. A total of 7 Grumman TBMs with crew, 3 Corsairs and 2 Hellcats. Afterwards the carrier went on to Hawaii then entered combat at Saipan then Okinawa and went on to New Guinea to support the Aussies and later to the Philippines to pickup POWs there. The Channel islands supported smaller versions of mammoths, and was a key Indigenous trading point from the islands to the coast and all the way into the plains. When the Spanish came and removed the local population it completely destroyed that link that had existed for a very long time.
@randomjunks1198Ай бұрын
She lived there her whole life just fine. She got forcibly rescued so we could help her and she caught a funk from us and died. Good thing we helped.
@thatdude3977
Ай бұрын
Herpe clan
@gointothedogs463419 күн бұрын
I read the book years ago. It left me with quite a feeling of needing to know more. It's wonderful to learn more is being discovered about this woman.
@conqueringlion4202 ай бұрын
Greetings from the Chumash Coastal Native American Nation
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Hello there!
@mraeromech2 жыл бұрын
So exciting. I’ve been to two of the Channel Islands and I like learning the history
@talesfromchannelislands
2 жыл бұрын
Us too!
@andrewferguson8032
Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Where can I watch the rest?
@talesfromchannelislands
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewferguson8032 Its on the Tales from California's Channel Islands. KZread does not make it easy. Here is the link. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qp2slsuco6zHopM.html
@CarpenterdaneАй бұрын
This is incredible! Its wonderful to have these items of the lost tribe that lived there.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Wonder ones they where!?
@marvinmartin46922 ай бұрын
Bare in mind that ocean levels were up to 400 feet lower during the last ice age! What’s under water now that we are literally missing!
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Lets dive and find out!
@user-ov4mk9ox8y
Ай бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands there are excavations on the Queen Charlotte's of villages and fishing locations between the high and low tide line. But it's brutal work, and that doesn't include the waves of insects in two hour exchanges: biting flies, builldogs (horse flies), No-See-Uhms, and Mosquitos and black flies!
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
@@user-ov4mk9ox8y that doesn’t sound like any fun at all…
@reneemoreno80302 ай бұрын
This ancestral figure is "family". My family is indigenous to that area. Story is that there were "invaders" and our peoples fled to the islands or to the mountains. 🙏
@Redfour5Ай бұрын
Very neat. Obviously something of personal attachment and importance to a specific human being. We all have one of these in some form of manifestation. Something from our past, or present that means something to us and grounds us in our reality.
@maxdaly8185Ай бұрын
There’s so much to learn from these islands. Did the islands have Redwood trees? Or was this imported?
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Yes! and great question.
@user-ov4mk9ox8y
Ай бұрын
10,000 years ago the Queen Charlotte's were attached to the mainland, and it was grassland: grizzly country. Cedar came later, with rising lands and a dramatic increase in rain. I'd imagine there would be climate and type of foliage differences as well on the islands in Calif.
@thatdude3977
Ай бұрын
People act like Natives couldn't navigate water 😂
@wmpmacmАй бұрын
Very interesting. I was working on San Clemente Island at that time. I always wondered what San Nicholas Island was like.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
As a contractor? I have wanted to set foot on that Islands to get my all 8.
@menarcanindians93705 ай бұрын
This is one of my ancient ancestors
@j.b.4340
Ай бұрын
The box is post 1800.
@thatdude3977
Ай бұрын
@@j.b.4340yeah makes you realize American genocide wasn't that far away.
@wordsculpt
Ай бұрын
There is no way to know.
@leighdee20849 ай бұрын
Awesome find
@talesfromchannelislands
9 ай бұрын
I'll Say!
@ianrobbinsАй бұрын
I was so excited to have stumbled over this ancient KZread video about some archaeologists who had stumbled over some artifacts which a woman stumbled over while doing her thing. Obviously someone out a lot of time j to making this video...but who were they? We'll never know, but the video resolution wasn't common until at least 2020 AD
@nilolinsАй бұрын
Love these stories of land in the United States that are owned by the people that we will never be able to step foot on.
@SumNumber21 күн бұрын
Cool. I have been to that island building roads for the military. I wonder if we disturbed anything . Thanks for the share. :O)
@talesfromchannelislands
21 күн бұрын
Col, What year was that?
@vickilindberg6336Ай бұрын
I read about her 50+ years ago. It was an amazing story.
@gointothedogs4634
19 күн бұрын
That's about when I read it also.
@andrewblack7852Ай бұрын
Island of the blue dolphins
@srf2112Ай бұрын
What an incredible mystery. Why were these items gathered and buried? When? By whom? I love history.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Me Tooo.
@elizaonthemountain3464Ай бұрын
When something stumps you, Google is not only your friend but is an easy first step to self guided education. Not every vid needs to be a full documentary.
@Surfsail4 ай бұрын
So we just be ignorant of thier importance to the history of the indigenous population of San Nicholas Island 😢
@timetodopatriotstuff2315Ай бұрын
The story they tell is so funny the artifacts have been there a long time getting rained on but if they didn't get it that day it would be gone for good 😂
@joycebrewer4150
10 күн бұрын
You don't know when that box was uncovered by erosion, maybe recently! And he said one side of the box was gone when he found it. Open to air, rain, waves, probably for the first time since it was originally buried.
@judyderieux8484Ай бұрын
How special !!!!!
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@Jaco3688Ай бұрын
Worlds first Time Capsule
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
especially for the West Coast.
@AerialEscape2 ай бұрын
15 yards away... Look we found a lone man's belongings!!! Now we have a lone man and a lone woman!!! What are the odds?!?!?!
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Unreal!
@jamesetal70882 ай бұрын
Im married to a Norwegian. They are freakin Vulcans.
@talesfromchannelislands
2 ай бұрын
Ha…Ha..
@ericregenauer7595
Ай бұрын
🖖
@ericregenauer7595
Ай бұрын
@@jamesetal7088 live long, and prosper...👍🤞🫵👍
@neatchipops342819 күн бұрын
Seems to be a lot of redwood available at some point... it must have drifted onto a beach.
@simon-oy6umАй бұрын
OOOOooo someones been here before 😮
@roostershooter76Ай бұрын
So, is it a stretch to ask "How do we know it was a known woman"? This is the first I've heard of this.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
we don’t, it’s just a hypothesis.
@roostershooter76
Ай бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands You must mention that it the video, and prior to stating your claims. After all, some individuals will run with this and claim it is fact, when it is just a theory.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
@@roostershooter76 Got it! Thank for the heads-up, Btw, they are not my claims.
@optimusprinceps3526 Жыл бұрын
I have collected artifacts I've found lying around
@talesfromchannelislands
Жыл бұрын
On San Nicholas Island?
@optimusprinceps3526
Жыл бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands in the caves and canyons around Ventura and Oxnard actually 👍
@julesgosnell97912 ай бұрын
What ? This is just 5 minutes of interesting video completely out of context - we're not told where the island is - we're not told anything about a "Lone Woman" or a "cave" or a hunt for the cave. Just that a couple of archaeologists stumbled upon something that they were NOT looking for - an interesting box, prob a couple of hundred years old, with some native treasures... - apparently a very important discovery, although modern ? not thousands of years old... - needs a lot of further explanation.
@heatherunicorn-sparkles1724
2 ай бұрын
Island of the Blue dolphins will provide context.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Watch “West of the West” on Amazon to get the full context. This is just Part 1. Meant for KZread viewer. Part 2 completes the story.
@carolalexander1429
Ай бұрын
❤❤❤ an old time treasure chest. This is a great story!
@timberrr1126
Ай бұрын
Nicholas Island is off the coast of Ventura County, California. It is between Santa Monica and Santa Barbara CA
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
@@carolalexander1429 Thanks for saying!
@EbikeAdventures6672 ай бұрын
My ancient grandmother
@wrmorris2Ай бұрын
Isla vista ememetry 1980's was were i 1st red island of the blue dolphin...
@pappysproductions Жыл бұрын
Wow
@talesfromchannelislands
Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@618BАй бұрын
That's it ? What was this discovery all about ?
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Some times small things have big meaning.
@jasontheflyingfarrierhays2 ай бұрын
WOW 😮
@molliwilson5639Ай бұрын
What is a redwood box?
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Simply a box made out of Redwood.
@heard3879Ай бұрын
The name of this KZread channel has “California” spelled with the n and i transposed.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
That’s what happens when you have a dyslexic editor.
@RuralLife528 күн бұрын
Hello👍👍👍👍❤❤❤
@markthomas37302 ай бұрын
shouldn't these artifacts be photographed IN SITU before you start handling/removing items ? where did this dude get his Archeology degree..from a box of corn flakes ?
@soonerfrac4611
Ай бұрын
Video… Video is how a lot of stuff is recorded these days and has been for a very long time. Can produce multiple stills from it with ease. Also, who’s to say that this 5min _video_ is the only documentation that was produced? Most people don’t care about the intricacies of the process, they just want to see a 5-10min video. As such wasting time to show the documentation process removes valuable time from the project. Lastly, there’s multiple tripods visible over the table, your assumptions that photo’s were not taken is preposterous.
@peterdicker286Ай бұрын
Im British. I dont want to rain on youe parade but we find older things in our attics.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Never heard that one before…Thanks for the update and watching of course!
@amypetra5021
Ай бұрын
Well La-Dee-Da 🙄. Stiff upper lips and all…
@willbephore3086
Ай бұрын
Can't tell if you're serious or joking but the interest here is the fact it's filling in a missing piece of a well known and loved story and local history. We only recently tried to eliminate the Indigenous here (it didn't work), unlike across the pond where it's been in vogue for much longer.
@pipedaddy363
Ай бұрын
Stonehenge is only 5k yrs old so wheres the other 5 to 7k yr old stuff? Gobekle Tepe? Thats in Turkey. Yer guys stuff in england aint that old you just have more 5k yr old trash laying around
@peterdicker286
Ай бұрын
@pipedaddy363 you sir are an obvious peasant. Secondly you are conflating 500 year old issues with 5000 year old ones to make a very bad point.
@patrickskelly75209 күн бұрын
I know where the whale cave is. I have a picture of the carving. If you know you know.
@talesfromchannelislands
9 күн бұрын
We know.
@flolotАй бұрын
why dint you were gloves, are you real archeologist ?? or amateurs ?
@lc3853
Ай бұрын
Go put on another helmet.
@dariosanchez8421Ай бұрын
San Nicolas Island not San Nicholas.
@fado79217 күн бұрын
Man, your listeners and viewers ar not idiots!!
@dvidgonzales8376Ай бұрын
When a child went on a tour there and may have spent a cold night in her outcropping, just dirt ..a guy had a mall place on the island.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Must’ve been quite the experience!
@user-kl9ew8yc3oАй бұрын
He wanted to save them ..😢.. that's so lame. If you were a little more 'emotional' maybe you wouldn't be so selfish.
@jimmcdevitt60842 ай бұрын
AND?……
@fado792Ай бұрын
How to tell a short story long.
@isilderАй бұрын
Drippy treasure of oak island plot.. drip it out, wait till next episide to find outif we till yiu what we should have already told you !
@Frankie_the_cat15 күн бұрын
But yet still not federally recognized
@fernandochavez43122 ай бұрын
And then you took them back and reburied them, respectfully. Where they belong? Thanks
@pmboston
Ай бұрын
Fun at parties?
@jimherron5540Ай бұрын
The age of the archaeological finds aren’t that old. They’re using proven wrong dating methods.
@willbephore3086
Ай бұрын
This is from very recent history.
@spacecowboy2k2 ай бұрын
PAPYRUS!!!!!!!!!!
@mikerilling6515Ай бұрын
Can’t spell California? 🙄
@TheDocrickАй бұрын
So good it appears fake. Hmmmmm
@LyVanToan-vn2tqАй бұрын
He lo ❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂
@constitutionallyconscious16510 ай бұрын
As I understand the indigenous Nicoliños were slaughtered by French fur traders, and again at a later point in history, before Juana Maria passed in 1853, But it would have been nice to have tribal representation maybe from Tongva there with you. Doesn't really seem fair or in line with NAGPRA, NEPA, CEQA, to just have a bunch of non indigenous professors poke through someones most private possessions, and then write up a bunch of articles and publish photos of said contents. Beautiful artifacts, but a disgusting show of unchecked privilege. Most tribes dont want their precontact history put on blast by scolars.
@rebeccadeniston
7 ай бұрын
The Nicolenos are extinct, though. Is it better to just let their history rot? Also, these aren't pre-contact artifacts--the buttons indicate otherwise.
@Surfsail
4 ай бұрын
I think that she would appreciate her people's story to be told instead of forgotten
@Surfsail
3 ай бұрын
The Russians and the aluets wiped out the men of Saint Nicholas Island.
@constitutionallyconscious165
3 ай бұрын
@Surfsail Just like every other Tribe in So Cal, they had an extensive complicated Clan marital system. Where they had to be married to surrounding clans. Just because they were on an island does not mean they were stuck there.
@Surfsail
3 ай бұрын
@@constitutionallyconscious165 you're correct they weren't stuck there The lone woman was I believe the history books sending word to the other tribes that they had no men left. Without any man their tribe would have died off anyways. The only people that we should be mad at are the Russians the fur traders. And once again I know in my heart that if I was of my people and I had left something behind that I would want somebody to see it find it and share it and tell our story. It is so tragic that their culture is not known by the other tribes or the rest of the world. So I think maybe you're just trolling cuz you're not really being sincere about your arguments.
@cameronnovak2 ай бұрын
5 minutes??? Thumbs down
@jsmcguireIII2 ай бұрын
This Vellanoweth is pretty obnoxious.
@reddiver7293Ай бұрын
I am offended by this racist theft of ...nah, just kidding 😅😅😅
@Herbie11Ай бұрын
I'm calling BS on this one! Oh please! a box burried on a cliff like that. Nonsense! The box would have been buried so deep to be exposed like that on a sand stone cliff with how much erosion takes place on that island after that many years. I highly doubt some indian would take the time to climb down a cliff and dig for hours to put a few belongings in. This is a prime example of a college program looking for more grant money.
@nexrace
Ай бұрын
There is lots of info on the area. They actually found the collapsed cave & dug it out to find how big it was. When you get some time look up the Arlington springs early man site. People have been using these islands for a long time.
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Oh my god. This was my favorite story. I have flown over that island as a captain on a flight to Hawaii. I looked down at that island so many times and told my passengers that they were looking at the island that was in their memories of the island from the book. Thank you for this. I will watch all your episodes.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed…Every time I leave Santa Barbara I’m hoping that it’s not foggy. Over the years I’ve flown many times on big aircraft and small and never seeing San Nicolas… until I took a trip to Maui! I could actually see the full island… it was a wonderful moment.
@pamfriedly5158
12 күн бұрын
I just love this book. I'm so excited for you! 8>)
@grumpy3543
12 күн бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands I’m so glad that you got to see it. Yes. You get a great view on the way to Maui. If it’s clear. Which is rare.
I had the great honor of meeting Dr. Erlandson whilst working with Hutash on the Bacara build near Bell Canyon north Goleta. Awesome, dude! Thank you for the video.
@talesfromchannelislands
20 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
I just finished rereading Island of the Blue Dolphins, and this is so cool to see!
@talesfromchannelislands
Жыл бұрын
There is so much more to be found!
@constitutionallyconscious165
2 ай бұрын
@talesfromchannelislands I hope you guys consult and bring tribal representation with you while surveying, data collecting CEQA, NAGPRA, NEPA and such.
@merk9569
Ай бұрын
Unlike other books that I cherished as a child, I haven’t read it in the last 62 years. I still feel like I was with her and Rontu on that island and felt her pain. I researched her life as an adult and was horrified by her death so soon after coming to the mainland. Later, when I gave a copy to my daughters, I couldn’t bring myself to read it. I think that having grown up on an island with the love and support of my parents and siblings, surrounded by friends, I found her situation unbearably sad. It had a profound effect on me and I realize now it probably influenced the importance I place on loved ones. For me, family and friends were everything.
@gregoryallen0001
Ай бұрын
i read it as a child then read it to my child! then i googled it aaieeeeee
@susyclearwater1920
13 күн бұрын
❤@@talesfromchannelislands
Read The Island of the Blue Dolphins by Scott Odell. The "Lone Woman" is the surviving sister of the brother and sister Native Americans last living there.
I recommend the book Shrouded Heritage by Tom Holm, it is an historical account of the early inhabitants of the island. I love that island, i've spent over a year anchored there since 1993.
@talesfromchannelislands
Жыл бұрын
Wow very cool. Where did you anchor?
I was lucky to visit san clemente island. Incredible that people were there for 8000 years
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
What took you there?
@Quantrills.Raiders
Ай бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands a dolphin
@chuckb3489
Ай бұрын
I know what took him there, a either a sea knight or sea stallion.
@doriancorliss3796
Ай бұрын
@@chuckb3489 Actually it was a roughly 30 person contracted plane. Would have loved a helo ride though....
thank you for so sensibly working these finds...the person who hid them must either have been the terrified owner, or the terrified thief, trying to escape discovery and judgement.
Dude what, those fishhooks are incredible.
Wow. Dr. Jon Erlandson was one of my favorite professors at the UofO. Great archeology class! Go Ducks!!!!☺️💚
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
So cool!
I was stationed on that island. Lots of history. Cave with carving. Tools found.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Wow! What year was that?
Somehow, I remember reading the island of the blue dolphin when I was a kid. Imagine my shock right now. It was based on a true story, and there are even artifacts?🤯
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
All True!
I'm a Retired Federal Agent Fisheries, went out there on an abalone poaching/drug incident, very intresting area
@talesfromchannelislands
2 ай бұрын
Wow! I bet you have stories..How was the crossing to SNI. I am possibly going in early winter…
@dr5910
2 ай бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands I flew in a USN twin engine prop out of Pt Mague airbase, 1 hour flight approximately, I wasn't allowed to talk to other passengers
@talesfromchannelislands
2 ай бұрын
@@dr5910 Ahhh Gotcha...Well if you ever want to share your experience let me know. Instudio8@mac.com
I’m really surprised they handled these things barehanded, when recent DNA testing techniques now allow for ancient DNA to be extracted from objects and even soil. We might have known who (ethnically, perhaps even gotten a family lineage) it was that hand-carved the pieces. Very interesting find, regardless. I look forward to seeing what else they find on the island.
@willbephore3086
Ай бұрын
I had the same thought
I built the missile test site out there in the mid 80's, I spent countless hours looking for her cave on my time off.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
I would have liked to do that…Tell me more. Instudio8@mac.com
@hybriddyneguy
Ай бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands There were artifacts in the airport museum that were 10,000 years B.C. Beads and abalone fishhooks.
My father was suppose to go on a training flight but another instructor needed more time so my Dad stayed aboard the carrier USS Block Island. This is a brief account of what happened that fateful day. On 10 Feb 1945 Block Island departed with DD 779 Douglas H. Fox for 10 days operational training off San Clemente and San Nicolas islands. On 14 Feb 1945 the planes from CVE 106 were to conduct strikes with live ammunition against a bombing area on San Clemente. Dobbin led the morning flight but found the weather unsatisfactory and returned to the ship. One plane crashed due to engine failure but the pilot was rescued. That afternoon six Avengers, three Corsairs, and two Hellcats were launched to continue training. A severe storm approached rapidly so Block Island recalled all aircraft. One Avenger successfully landed but the others were unable to land so they were vectored to San Nicolas about 120 miles away. The weather prevented landing and as a result eight aircrew and seven planes were lost.
@talesfromchannelislands
22 күн бұрын
Wow! Is your father still with us?
@JW007100
22 күн бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands He passed away 2 yrs ago at the age of 98. Several planes crashed on San Nicholas Island killing all the pilots the other planes tried to get to the mainland but they crashed as well. A total of 7 Grumman TBMs with crew, 3 Corsairs and 2 Hellcats. Afterwards the carrier went on to Hawaii then entered combat at Saipan then Okinawa and went on to New Guinea to support the Aussies and later to the Philippines to pickup POWs there. The Channel islands supported smaller versions of mammoths, and was a key Indigenous trading point from the islands to the coast and all the way into the plains. When the Spanish came and removed the local population it completely destroyed that link that had existed for a very long time.
She lived there her whole life just fine. She got forcibly rescued so we could help her and she caught a funk from us and died. Good thing we helped.
@thatdude3977
Ай бұрын
Herpe clan
I read the book years ago. It left me with quite a feeling of needing to know more. It's wonderful to learn more is being discovered about this woman.
Greetings from the Chumash Coastal Native American Nation
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Hello there!
So exciting. I’ve been to two of the Channel Islands and I like learning the history
@talesfromchannelislands
2 жыл бұрын
Us too!
@andrewferguson8032
Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Where can I watch the rest?
@talesfromchannelislands
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewferguson8032 Its on the Tales from California's Channel Islands. KZread does not make it easy. Here is the link. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qp2slsuco6zHopM.html
This is incredible! Its wonderful to have these items of the lost tribe that lived there.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Wonder ones they where!?
Bare in mind that ocean levels were up to 400 feet lower during the last ice age! What’s under water now that we are literally missing!
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Lets dive and find out!
@user-ov4mk9ox8y
Ай бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands there are excavations on the Queen Charlotte's of villages and fishing locations between the high and low tide line. But it's brutal work, and that doesn't include the waves of insects in two hour exchanges: biting flies, builldogs (horse flies), No-See-Uhms, and Mosquitos and black flies!
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
@@user-ov4mk9ox8y that doesn’t sound like any fun at all…
This ancestral figure is "family". My family is indigenous to that area. Story is that there were "invaders" and our peoples fled to the islands or to the mountains. 🙏
Very neat. Obviously something of personal attachment and importance to a specific human being. We all have one of these in some form of manifestation. Something from our past, or present that means something to us and grounds us in our reality.
There’s so much to learn from these islands. Did the islands have Redwood trees? Or was this imported?
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Yes! and great question.
@user-ov4mk9ox8y
Ай бұрын
10,000 years ago the Queen Charlotte's were attached to the mainland, and it was grassland: grizzly country. Cedar came later, with rising lands and a dramatic increase in rain. I'd imagine there would be climate and type of foliage differences as well on the islands in Calif.
@thatdude3977
Ай бұрын
People act like Natives couldn't navigate water 😂
Very interesting. I was working on San Clemente Island at that time. I always wondered what San Nicholas Island was like.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
As a contractor? I have wanted to set foot on that Islands to get my all 8.
This is one of my ancient ancestors
@j.b.4340
Ай бұрын
The box is post 1800.
@thatdude3977
Ай бұрын
@@j.b.4340yeah makes you realize American genocide wasn't that far away.
@wordsculpt
Ай бұрын
There is no way to know.
Awesome find
@talesfromchannelislands
9 ай бұрын
I'll Say!
I was so excited to have stumbled over this ancient KZread video about some archaeologists who had stumbled over some artifacts which a woman stumbled over while doing her thing. Obviously someone out a lot of time j to making this video...but who were they? We'll never know, but the video resolution wasn't common until at least 2020 AD
Love these stories of land in the United States that are owned by the people that we will never be able to step foot on.
Cool. I have been to that island building roads for the military. I wonder if we disturbed anything . Thanks for the share. :O)
@talesfromchannelislands
21 күн бұрын
Col, What year was that?
I read about her 50+ years ago. It was an amazing story.
@gointothedogs4634
19 күн бұрын
That's about when I read it also.
Island of the blue dolphins
What an incredible mystery. Why were these items gathered and buried? When? By whom? I love history.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Me Tooo.
When something stumps you, Google is not only your friend but is an easy first step to self guided education. Not every vid needs to be a full documentary.
So we just be ignorant of thier importance to the history of the indigenous population of San Nicholas Island 😢
The story they tell is so funny the artifacts have been there a long time getting rained on but if they didn't get it that day it would be gone for good 😂
@joycebrewer4150
10 күн бұрын
You don't know when that box was uncovered by erosion, maybe recently! And he said one side of the box was gone when he found it. Open to air, rain, waves, probably for the first time since it was originally buried.
How special !!!!!
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
Worlds first Time Capsule
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
especially for the West Coast.
15 yards away... Look we found a lone man's belongings!!! Now we have a lone man and a lone woman!!! What are the odds?!?!?!
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Unreal!
Im married to a Norwegian. They are freakin Vulcans.
@talesfromchannelislands
2 ай бұрын
Ha…Ha..
@ericregenauer7595
Ай бұрын
🖖
@ericregenauer7595
Ай бұрын
@@jamesetal7088 live long, and prosper...👍🤞🫵👍
Seems to be a lot of redwood available at some point... it must have drifted onto a beach.
OOOOooo someones been here before 😮
So, is it a stretch to ask "How do we know it was a known woman"? This is the first I've heard of this.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
we don’t, it’s just a hypothesis.
@roostershooter76
Ай бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands You must mention that it the video, and prior to stating your claims. After all, some individuals will run with this and claim it is fact, when it is just a theory.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
@@roostershooter76 Got it! Thank for the heads-up, Btw, they are not my claims.
I have collected artifacts I've found lying around
@talesfromchannelislands
Жыл бұрын
On San Nicholas Island?
@optimusprinceps3526
Жыл бұрын
@@talesfromchannelislands in the caves and canyons around Ventura and Oxnard actually 👍
What ? This is just 5 minutes of interesting video completely out of context - we're not told where the island is - we're not told anything about a "Lone Woman" or a "cave" or a hunt for the cave. Just that a couple of archaeologists stumbled upon something that they were NOT looking for - an interesting box, prob a couple of hundred years old, with some native treasures... - apparently a very important discovery, although modern ? not thousands of years old... - needs a lot of further explanation.
@heatherunicorn-sparkles1724
2 ай бұрын
Island of the Blue dolphins will provide context.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Watch “West of the West” on Amazon to get the full context. This is just Part 1. Meant for KZread viewer. Part 2 completes the story.
@carolalexander1429
Ай бұрын
❤❤❤ an old time treasure chest. This is a great story!
@timberrr1126
Ай бұрын
Nicholas Island is off the coast of Ventura County, California. It is between Santa Monica and Santa Barbara CA
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
@@carolalexander1429 Thanks for saying!
My ancient grandmother
Isla vista ememetry 1980's was were i 1st red island of the blue dolphin...
Wow
@talesfromchannelislands
Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
That's it ? What was this discovery all about ?
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Some times small things have big meaning.
WOW 😮
What is a redwood box?
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Simply a box made out of Redwood.
The name of this KZread channel has “California” spelled with the n and i transposed.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
That’s what happens when you have a dyslexic editor.
Hello👍👍👍👍❤❤❤
shouldn't these artifacts be photographed IN SITU before you start handling/removing items ? where did this dude get his Archeology degree..from a box of corn flakes ?
@soonerfrac4611
Ай бұрын
Video… Video is how a lot of stuff is recorded these days and has been for a very long time. Can produce multiple stills from it with ease. Also, who’s to say that this 5min _video_ is the only documentation that was produced? Most people don’t care about the intricacies of the process, they just want to see a 5-10min video. As such wasting time to show the documentation process removes valuable time from the project. Lastly, there’s multiple tripods visible over the table, your assumptions that photo’s were not taken is preposterous.
Im British. I dont want to rain on youe parade but we find older things in our attics.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Never heard that one before…Thanks for the update and watching of course!
@amypetra5021
Ай бұрын
Well La-Dee-Da 🙄. Stiff upper lips and all…
@willbephore3086
Ай бұрын
Can't tell if you're serious or joking but the interest here is the fact it's filling in a missing piece of a well known and loved story and local history. We only recently tried to eliminate the Indigenous here (it didn't work), unlike across the pond where it's been in vogue for much longer.
@pipedaddy363
Ай бұрын
Stonehenge is only 5k yrs old so wheres the other 5 to 7k yr old stuff? Gobekle Tepe? Thats in Turkey. Yer guys stuff in england aint that old you just have more 5k yr old trash laying around
@peterdicker286
Ай бұрын
@pipedaddy363 you sir are an obvious peasant. Secondly you are conflating 500 year old issues with 5000 year old ones to make a very bad point.
I know where the whale cave is. I have a picture of the carving. If you know you know.
@talesfromchannelislands
9 күн бұрын
We know.
why dint you were gloves, are you real archeologist ?? or amateurs ?
@lc3853
Ай бұрын
Go put on another helmet.
San Nicolas Island not San Nicholas.
Man, your listeners and viewers ar not idiots!!
When a child went on a tour there and may have spent a cold night in her outcropping, just dirt ..a guy had a mall place on the island.
@talesfromchannelislands
Ай бұрын
Must’ve been quite the experience!
He wanted to save them ..😢.. that's so lame. If you were a little more 'emotional' maybe you wouldn't be so selfish.
AND?……
How to tell a short story long.
Drippy treasure of oak island plot.. drip it out, wait till next episide to find outif we till yiu what we should have already told you !
But yet still not federally recognized
And then you took them back and reburied them, respectfully. Where they belong? Thanks
@pmboston
Ай бұрын
Fun at parties?
The age of the archaeological finds aren’t that old. They’re using proven wrong dating methods.
@willbephore3086
Ай бұрын
This is from very recent history.
PAPYRUS!!!!!!!!!!
Can’t spell California? 🙄
So good it appears fake. Hmmmmm
He lo ❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂
As I understand the indigenous Nicoliños were slaughtered by French fur traders, and again at a later point in history, before Juana Maria passed in 1853, But it would have been nice to have tribal representation maybe from Tongva there with you. Doesn't really seem fair or in line with NAGPRA, NEPA, CEQA, to just have a bunch of non indigenous professors poke through someones most private possessions, and then write up a bunch of articles and publish photos of said contents. Beautiful artifacts, but a disgusting show of unchecked privilege. Most tribes dont want their precontact history put on blast by scolars.
@rebeccadeniston
7 ай бұрын
The Nicolenos are extinct, though. Is it better to just let their history rot? Also, these aren't pre-contact artifacts--the buttons indicate otherwise.
@Surfsail
4 ай бұрын
I think that she would appreciate her people's story to be told instead of forgotten
@Surfsail
3 ай бұрын
The Russians and the aluets wiped out the men of Saint Nicholas Island.
@constitutionallyconscious165
3 ай бұрын
@Surfsail Just like every other Tribe in So Cal, they had an extensive complicated Clan marital system. Where they had to be married to surrounding clans. Just because they were on an island does not mean they were stuck there.
@Surfsail
3 ай бұрын
@@constitutionallyconscious165 you're correct they weren't stuck there The lone woman was I believe the history books sending word to the other tribes that they had no men left. Without any man their tribe would have died off anyways. The only people that we should be mad at are the Russians the fur traders. And once again I know in my heart that if I was of my people and I had left something behind that I would want somebody to see it find it and share it and tell our story. It is so tragic that their culture is not known by the other tribes or the rest of the world. So I think maybe you're just trolling cuz you're not really being sincere about your arguments.
5 minutes??? Thumbs down
This Vellanoweth is pretty obnoxious.
I am offended by this racist theft of ...nah, just kidding 😅😅😅
I'm calling BS on this one! Oh please! a box burried on a cliff like that. Nonsense! The box would have been buried so deep to be exposed like that on a sand stone cliff with how much erosion takes place on that island after that many years. I highly doubt some indian would take the time to climb down a cliff and dig for hours to put a few belongings in. This is a prime example of a college program looking for more grant money.
@nexrace
Ай бұрын
There is lots of info on the area. They actually found the collapsed cave & dug it out to find how big it was. When you get some time look up the Arlington springs early man site. People have been using these islands for a long time.
Very likely AI lies. My opinion