The Wittgenstein Initiative is a Vienna-based international forum that aspires to make present in the city of his birth Ludwig Wittgenstein, one of the greatest thinkers and most remarkable individuals of the 20th century. We aim to demonstrate Wittgenstein’s present-day relevance in various areas of public and private life and bring his cultural legacy to the general public.
Wittgenstein’s philosophy is not a theory - it is an activity. It urges us to constant self- scrutiny, in order to be able to independently think for ourselves. This practice brings insights into the most basic and seemingly self-evident questions and often shows us unexpected answers. This is the prerequisite for open dialogue that can lead to genuine social and cultural renewal in these trying times. Wittgenstein also shows us how language is used and misused, and in so many different ways shapes our relation to the world and our social contexts.
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Thanks for the English legends.
Our pleasure!
Herzlichen Dank Was ist das für ein Foto und mit wem steht Wittgenstein zusammen?
Mit Ben Richards in Dublin, 1949.
: You were concerned what it may say ! ( was that ) 7:25 ㏂ Sunday, December 10, 2023 (PST) Time in San Francisco, CA : 🪪 , what he said was that.
Wonderful talk. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The audio-visual is excellent. The panel very erudite and instructive
Watching, listening again after many years. Erudition and clarity. Thank you again, miss jenny (music theory teacher….agree with Wittgenstein about Mahler).
Which book Ray Monk refers to at 30:30?
Yes, anyone here has the exact title and editor of the book? Thank you in advance.
The reference to Rudolf Haller was refreshing, as his collection of Wittgenstein essays provide numerous means to interpreting his work, from out of various traditions in philosophy. Haller’s essay on the history of “Austrian Philosophy,” is really illuminating, as well as the brief essay on Spengler. I also appreciate Janik’s encouragement to read Hertz and Boltzmann, for I want to spend more time with the “natural scientists” responsible for influencing Wittgenstein’s thought.
Gibson did a remarkable job, placing Wittgenstein in the context of early 20th century mathematics. We, the listeners, get a detailed picture of philosophy, mathematics, and history in one lecture. I am going to have my University order the "Skinner-Wittgenstein book," so all of us at the philosophy department can dive into these newly published insights! Many Thanks.
Wittgenstein's interest in the work of Oswald Spengler is certainly worth researching.
Very formal format.... However, Wittgenstein is so UNIVERSAL, that it is worth making time to watching these videos!
his attitude toward women certainly wasnt very modern.
Enfim Não é minha culpa
German philosophy ---- Peirce -- lady Welby -- C. Ogden -- Ramsey -- Wittgenstein- --- Vienna circle ---- US analytic philosophy ---- Neo pragmatism ---Neo hegelism : Big uroboros panorama
The longest intro I have ever heard, shut up and on with the panel.
Thank you.
You're welcome!
"Modernism", as a form of 'negative capability' (what can only be shown) is joined at the hip with the confident, brutish (and proud of it), virile authoritarianism of a past of material scarcity excusing herding. But, can what becomes do without what came before? What the rock climber is doing now is conditioned by what she did before. In the tribe or clan (or small town), it is the outside that determines who we are allowed to pretend to be to other, but we are free in our natural isolation to not buy into anything we do not accept as imaginable of ourselves even if performing what appears to us to be required by in-coming signaling.
Thanks for this video and for bring to us this discussion.
Thanks for this video. Best wishes.
I'm watchng this conference in December, 2020. But, I can't understand politics as "take the decions". To me this definition (if it is), is very poor. Politics is much more tahn that, i's like a decisions in war. The decision is not the point, but the consequences. So politics may be something like "Do you can bear the consewquences of your decisions on yourself?" And, in language we in fact "take decisions", if I choose a word, I choose much more tha a simple sign, I choose all the use and this means that I choose the language game with that word (the behaviour that comes with that word). So, we have decisions in language as we have in politics, on this definition. Language is much more than bare signs ruled by a sintax.
My previous comment used the silly “tuppence worth” regarding Dr. Perloff... I apologize for that. She has broadened my knowledge of Wittgenstein beyond what my small brain deserves.
This discussion is simply marvelous..... here in Manhattan in lockdown I feel as is I’m in heaven being able to listen to these scholars. I’ve recently been examining the architectural relationships of Wittgenstein, Adolf Loos, and perhaps the influence of Charles Ronnie Macintosh (sp?).... thank you so much for this..... I think perhaps Marjorie Perloff (sp?) should add her tuppence worth of her scholarship to this examination. Miss Jenny.
Fascinating discussion. Love hearing the different perspectives. Appreciate all those who speak such wonderful English.
Wittgenstein was repelled by modernity and modernism. The idea that he would have approved of conceptual art is quite absurd.
I think you have over-simplified the question posed by the panel, as to whether or not Wittgenstein was Modern. The answer is more nuanced than yes or no. We know Wittgenstein respected Loos and Wagner's modern architecture. I also discovered that Wittgenstein actually read Joyce's "A Portrait of the Artist as a Youngman," and found the work to be riveting. Lastly, the very style of Wittgenstein's writing (only comparable in Pascal, Nietzsche, select Schopenhauer, and Kraus) as well as his attempts to change how we do philosophy, strikes me as modern. I have often thought of "Modernism," as breaking with tradition.
LW was a neurotic fool and puppet of Lord Russell. These jerks have no idea what they're talking about. LW has become a cult fad object for people who have no notion what he was saying. In fact, his ideas about language, for ex, are all absurd. He is so overrated it's ridiculous. He was certainly a brilliant and captivating writer of the aphoristic sort, deserving the praise wrongly given to Nietzsche on that score, and he has an attractive personality -- refreshingly non-pompous, direct, humorous. But he was basically an engineer. And he had an engineer's way of looking at things. And although that's fine for engineering, it doesn't work for most of the things he was trying to understand, human language being the worst example of all.
Isn't part of Wittgenstein's problem with Mahler that it lacks discipline and order? Wittgenstein (and I think other members of his family) admired classical restraint - and therefore found the playing of his brother Paul Wittgenstein not just bad and hard to listen to but positively unseemly.
Sehr angenhemes Gespräch, Radmila. Vielen Dank dafür.
Ludwig laughs and shakes his head.
That's the problem with all areas of knowledge, it in danger of dogatism and generalisations.
Is this inside the Wittgenstein House in Vienna?
Yes.
The book is now forthcoming: www.springer.com/us/book/9783030360863?fbclid=IwAR0qeBZ-d60CO7Tb48TmGB2PqN-tuhDPj-SgchsTjARb0hvXD1B5v38GRTo
Ray Monk has the ability to say the truth about wittgenstein in simple, clear words - because he has no interest to utter own meanings.
Monk is really The Monk. Witgenstein's position on poetry and music must be elaborated further .
been waiting for this since 2011 woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I love Wittgenstein from the core of my heart..
this talk is great, thanks for posting for the youtube community
Glad you enjoyed it!
I started a Master's program and university teaching fellowship in 1966. I switched quickly into History and got my graduate degree there. Why the switch? Wittgenstein was the proverbial straw. It seemed to me that Philosophy was a pursuit to rip apart any system of thought. My own study of Descartes left me with the fact that the human mind is incapable of establishing certitude. No Problem! History didn't aim for certitude, just probability. I am aware that today Philosophy can be quite scientific, what with brain wiring and imaging thrown into the studies. I am pleased that even today the politically correct anti-science elements which dominate the Humanities have not yet completely ruined the fields of Philosophy and History. My evidence for that conclusion is largely based on the fact that these two fields are still male majority, rather than the gender studies types (who lack basic biology and neurology). My early introduction to Philosophy, esp. pragmatic Stoicism, has been my base. I am now 76 and have terminal cancer, and will do MAID when the end comes.
The Left has ruined history, especially with the 1619 Project. The Left is racist, hateful, and anti history.
So inspiring message. ❤
She is on target. The Austrian-Hungarian Empire fell in the memory hole of history. I read some Roth and Kafka in college and got a small taste but that was all. Her book is very good but I do not know if Wittgenstein belongs with Roth, Celan, Kraus and the others. His philosophy seems a world away. Alles Gute
Thank you so much for upload!! Enjoyed your videos very much!
Please ask yourselves "How many philosophers we have per capita?" excluding SlumLandLords ;-) That;s all from me, thank you keep hiding my messages from public, but I hope you got them ;-)
Seriously, LW when he was talking about language games and philosophy is a therapeutic activity on language usage and users, he was expecting all those health and fitness institutions related to language should be taken over by Ministry of Language Health and establish Language Fitness Centers, Language Massage Centers, Language Clinics, LingoAnalysis Centers, Language Preventoriums to treat in isolation of SlumLandLords who keep inserting viruses consciously or unconsciously into language to spread their ilnesses. Those institutions will be organized and supervised by philosophers. Of course those has to be organized according to the REAL cultural needs, not according to IMAGINARY OneCulture for all. I hope Austria will be the first to establish such a Ministry rather than Ludwig Wittgenstein Tourist Centers ;-) Thank you very much Radmila to post such a video on Culture and _Philosophy_ Funding Today, otherwise I really couldn't compose such messages.
It is NOT a good practice to to hide comments from public on KZread :-(
Apologies, we are too slow with approving comments - yours is very welcome and we appreciate your advice!
Thank you very much Radmila, we appriciate your efforts.
Hi Radmila, my messages are still not displayed to general public, only the ones that I exchanged with you are available. The rest can be seen only by me ??! Could you please check again, thank you for your support.
Let me give you a small suggestion about funding of Philosophy and Philosophical institutions ; Philosophy and Philosophical institutions as Wittgenstein asserted deals with Health of Language that a society using, just like Medicine and Medical institutions deals with the Health of the people composing the society. That is why Andalusian Ibn Rushd issued a fatwa on Philosophy saying : To study Philosophy is fard-i qefaye for the community". Like similar fatwa had already been issued for Medicine. Now please compare how much your community has invested in Medicine and Medical Institutions and how much money you spend per day to keep the bodies composing your community healthy and compare those figures with what you invest and spend to keep the Language of the community in health, if the figures look rediculously out of comparison then your community is doomed to be bewitched by language without your being aware of it. Please ask yourselves "How can a community functions properly/healthily with a virus stricken language?". When Wittgenstein observed this disparity he just gave up hoping that his work will be understood and appriciated by the Western Elite. He started thinking that only a new civilisation will comprehend the seriousness of his warnings. Check those statistics, do you see anything related with Philosophy here, unfortunately not, but spendings to illegal drugs is there ;-) Good luck people ;-) www.worldometers.info/ The question is : How much you are going to spend on Philosophy to keep Language in use healthy? Why would a patron invest for removal of bewitchment via language - invest in philosophical activities? Unless he is Moses ;-) Help the State(Pharaoh) to keep bewitching people via language??!! ;-) In Sweden how much funding is done to Philosophy and Philosophical institutions every year, how many percent of the GNP? You have OneLawForAll structure, marketing OneCultureForAll, there is no room for SocioPoliticoEconomic Entities to practice their OwnLaw and get orginized accordingly to protect and advance their cultural identity legally. As Wittgenstein pointed out language is based on the way of life of the community, but in OneLawForAll structures communities are doomed to be assimilated to OneCommunity with OneLanguage. After the French Revolution hundreds of local languages in use had been assimilated to OneOfficialFrench by Académie Française. Dear Radmila, please rather than trying to patch up Wittgenstein to Vienna, try to revive Philosophy and Philosophical Institutions in Vienna such a level that they are as effective in their activities to keep language/languages of Vienna healthy as the Viennese Public/Private Health institutions (including sporting) keep the bodies of Vianese healthy. Please stop lip servicing Wittgenstein, he would hate that ;-) While you put Wittgenstein's statute next to Freud's, what are you going to put in place of all the Psychiatry Clinics and all other investments and spendings going on for the health of souls of citizens?! What about their sick and virus stricken languages' health problems, who are going to look after them with what resources?! Wittgenstein to increase the Turism Incomes ??!! Poor Wittgenstein, if he had heard this he would burn down all his Nachlass ;-) It seems you still didn't get the clear warning messages of Ludwig?! Let me put them bluntly : Ludwid says "With SlumLandLords on the steering wheel of your Languages you are heading full speed to disaster!!! Keep pedalling!!!" ;-) What I am trying to say is; Whenever you start openning Philosophy Clinics in Vienna then you realized the dream of Wittgenstein's PI - NOT Turist Attarction Cafes ;-) Believe me there are out there more people with Philosophical Problems than Tourists ;-) ;-) Please make my message PUBLIC, don't reserve it for your ego ;-)
For Wittgenstein theories of so called Modern Physics was polluted (virus stricken) via the Concept of Meaning of the Positivists, so why would he waste his time on them?! But I think N.Bohr and Heisenber were aware of Wittgenstein's criticism of the Positivist Concept of Meaning as he displays in the following interview : "According to Bohr, it is meaningless to ask what an electron 'really' is. Or at least, if you ask the question, physics cannot supply the answer. Physics, he declared, tells us not about what _is_, but what we can _say_ to each other concerning the world. Sepecifically, if a physicist carries out an experiment on a quantum system, provided a full specification of the experimental set-up is given (according to the theory he/she uses), physics can then make meaningful prediction about what he/she may observe, and thence communicate to hisher fellows in a well understood language (according to the theory in use)." The Ghost in the Atom edited by P.C.W. Davies & J.R. Brown. (The words in parantheses are mine). QM uses the Theory of Groups, L.W. could easily understand that. For Wittgenstein Mathematics is invention, not discovery. Mathemarics in fact invents Grammer Structures to be adopted by Language Users into language as grammatical structures if needed. Scientists when they adopt Methematical structures into their language of theories they are also inventing an extention to language. There is nothing to discover there; Theories also are inventions, not discoveries. Why would Wittgenstein be impressed with so called Modern Physics which provide a technology to make Nuclear Bombs and Nuclear Plants but falls short to provide information how to neutralize the nuclear waste?! Would you yourselves be impressed with such scientific jump into disaster?! ;-)
Very informative, thank you!
In the early twentieth century, Vienna’s artistic and cultural landscape experienced an unprecedented shift toward modernity: Adolf Loos and the Secession movement, Arnold Schönberg, Jung Wien and Karl Kraus, Sigmund Freud, Ernst Mach and the Vienna Circle-just to mention the most important names. Proceeding from Janik’s and Toulmin’s thesis in Wittgenstein’s Vienna, the question will be explored regarding to what extent Ludwig Wittgenstein’s philosophical work is deeply rooted in this very specific culture of Viennese modernity.
thank you for the video! i wonder what is the title of the book on 30 minutes about Wittgenstein's view on music and art?
Hans Biesenbach: Anspielungen und Zitate im Werk Ludwig Wittgensteins. wab.uib.no/wp-no22_sample.pdf