Always interesting watching you Dell. It reminds me what I used to do. From oldhippy.
@bernardpoole9123Күн бұрын
Good job I learned a lot
@petersincak52122 күн бұрын
Derek a pin cleaning is very interersting ... I am not sure if I can do it - you have inspired me ...
@jambusspeakermouse13252 күн бұрын
Your videos reveal what bad shape my P types bed is in!
@torsiondell2 күн бұрын
@@jambusspeakermouse1325 as long as it’s only the bed then look out for a replacement, the head & tailstock will fit.
@munnerlyn33 күн бұрын
Another great video Derek. That pivot reminds me of a French clock as some of their pivots can be really tiny. Keep it up.
@alanbirchenough72636 күн бұрын
Hi I have a 400 day clock, had it for 10 years. But over the last couple years it would stop. At first it would start up and run for months and over time it would only run for shorter times. I’ve changed the suspension spring to a 0.102 mm and I have a 0.114 spring. From watching the movement I noticed the escape wheel at the anchor jamming. I’ve noticed wear on the escape wheel. Not sure how to send pictures . Any ideas?
@torsiondell6 күн бұрын
@@alanbirchenough7263 I would be very surprised if the escape wheel had any wear , if it hasn’t been serviced in the last 10 years then there is probably congealed old oil causing friction, it probably just needs a service if you are on facebook just message me on messenger @torsiondell
@gerryodonnell3217 күн бұрын
I always leave the tapered pins in and just unscrew the screws. The only reason I would dismantle it (remove all the tapered pins) completely is cleaning.
@torsiondell3 күн бұрын
@@gerryodonnell321 as the saying goes there is more than one way to skin a rabbit
@jaysooriah92397 күн бұрын
how much
@torsiondell7 күн бұрын
@@jaysooriah9239 it wasn’t mine I just repaired it.
@rickdozier36098 күн бұрын
What if you don't know how long it should be? Mine was missing the lower block when I got it, so I have no idea how long it should be,
@torsiondell8 күн бұрын
@@rickdozier3609 most bit not all have full size diagrams in the book but if not then I fit top block fit to clock, then sit pendulum on something 1/4” thick then cut torsion spring in middle of hook on pendulum then finish making up.
@jambusspeakermouse13259 күн бұрын
For the wicks, are they also made of felt? Edit: I commented too quickly. You answered my question in the next sentence. Really useful videos, thanks!
@munnerlyn313 күн бұрын
Another helpful video Derek. Keep them up....................
@colindrakes460713 күн бұрын
That was helpful and interesting, I've personally had nothing to do with those torsion type of clocks, but if I ever did need one repairing or servicing, you would be hearing from me. Good of you to generously share your knowledge, thanks.
@kyproset13 күн бұрын
Really helpful, thank you.
@justmike5714 күн бұрын
I've done this a different way, not really knowing for sure how to do it. I like your way better and looks much easier than the way I was doing it.
@munnerlyn314 күн бұрын
Another job well done Derek. My only suggestion is your title again to add the words "Torsion/Anniversary Clock" to allow all audiences to find your video. Keep them coming my friend.
@torsiondell14 күн бұрын
@@munnerlyn3 Thanks Mark I remember you telling me to add Anniversary to the title before ( done )
@munnerlyn315 күн бұрын
Another great video Derek. As always. Love watching your work. You should add the words "Torsion/Anniversary clock" to your title to cover all audiences. As you know here in America most people dont know what a Torsion Clock is. That will help you gain more audiences as they search for either Torsion or Anniversary clock. You should do this to all your videos. Just trying to help you gain more audience/subscribers. Keep these videos coming my friend.
@user-pi6su1wx7o15 күн бұрын
Thanks Derek. So useful to see how the work is actually done. What rod did you use and how did you know which die to use? I am sure at some stage I will need to make a screw, so very useful knowledge for me.
@torsiondell15 күн бұрын
@@user-pi6su1wx7o the screw was made from silver steel & with very small screws it’s not possible to determine thread any other way than try different taps in thread & screw in dies.
@user-pi6su1wx7o15 күн бұрын
@@torsiondell Thank you, and thanks for the time you spend helping/educating others. Much appreciated.
@rinklestiltskin15 күн бұрын
That was good thanks. What material was it, and do you cut the threads without oil?
@torsiondell15 күн бұрын
@@rinklestiltskin the material was silver steel and yes although I didn’t show it I always use cutting oil otherwise it will blunt the die very quickly and not cut a very clean thread.
@cheryladair73215 күн бұрын
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing!
@colindrakes460715 күн бұрын
Interesting video, thanks for filming it, nice to see how you go about the cleaning and polishing process.
@torsiondell15 күн бұрын
@@colindrakes4607 thanks Colin
@nicksantitoro15 күн бұрын
Can you do a video about polishing the plates? If you lacquer them how do you not get lacquer in the pivot holes?
@torsiondell15 күн бұрын
@@nicksantitoro I just do the same as the base to polish plates just minimal polish on cloth, i never lacquer plates although I have in the past I just use Renaissance wax , on early clocks they are not lacquered anyway but later ones are so don’t clean in ammonia solution for long otherwise it will remove lacquer, if you want to lacquer plates just peg all holes lacquer then remove peg by twisting them to remove
@saintsi699716 күн бұрын
Please, Your Advise on cleaning the dials (G Becker), I'm worried about the numbers are they in the ceramic or printed on top? Thanks,
@torsiondell16 күн бұрын
@@saintsi6997 I think they are enamelled but not certain best test somewhere not obvious
@saintsi699716 күн бұрын
Top man, just about to do this to a Torsion Disc G Becker (marked BHA). I was going to dip the lot in Horolene ammonia liquid.
@jambusspeakermouse132527 күн бұрын
Hi, i have what i believe to be all the parts for this however i can't figure out what causes it to stay closed? Is it a lever action where it connects to the headstock? Possible i'm missing some bits if that's not the case. Edit: on closer inspection yours is different, i have one for a P type.
@torsiondell27 күн бұрын
@@jambusspeakermouse1325 in the round handle there is a spring loaded ball bearing .
@munnerlyn328 күн бұрын
Hi Derek. You might want to add the words "Torsion/anniversary clock to your title" or at least "clock". As that are key words that people search for when wanting to repair them. As always great job Derek...........Keep it up. Thanks for sharing this beautiful clock repair with us. P.S. I am glad that you are feeling better.
@user-oz3sz6vx5v29 күн бұрын
Hi Dell, I'm oldhippy. Did you grease or oil the mainspring. Putting the movement together, have you tried working from the bottom upwards that is the way my master taught me it makes it easier. It would also be nice to show your method of polishing and cleaning. I expect the dome is glass due to its age and not that horrible plastic.
@torsiondell29 күн бұрын
Hi I used synthetic thin Mobil 1 engine oil as I have done for a long time , I put the movement together from the centre arbor outward and I don’t usually have that much trouble, I have done a video how I lacquer but not cleaning and polishing because I thought most people know how to clean & polish but I could do one as I have quite a few more to do and some customers.
@user-oz3sz6vx5v29 күн бұрын
@@torsiondell I will check that out. I think people like to know how we get things done. I used to have many people coming into my workshop and asking different things.
@JoseBouderАй бұрын
Hello, I'm about to buy one, the pendulum locking mechanism is above it, almost where the torsion rope is attached, not below the base. Is it also advisable to take down the pendulum? To transport it by car?
@torsiondellАй бұрын
If the clock has a good pendulum lock then it should be fine for transportation when locked but I always wrap the pendulum as well just to be sure, but if it’s easy to remove pendulum then that’s what I do.
@JoseBouderАй бұрын
@@torsiondell Thank you very much for the prompt response, yes, the pendulum is only hanging, I better remove it, and make sure that the twisting thread or wire does not suffer any movement or pull. Greetings from Buenos Aires, Argentina
@JoseBouderАй бұрын
Hola ,estoy por comprar uno ,el mecanismo de traba del pendulo está arriba del mismo,casi donde se engancha cuerda de torsión, no abajo de la base. Igualmente es recomendable descolgar el pendulo? Para transportarlo en auto?
@johngriffin641Ай бұрын
What is the speed range now without the gears?
@torsiondellАй бұрын
On the display it is showing 100 to 1425 , I only have single pulley but if it had twin pulley it could be faster but it’s plenty fast enough for what I do but it’s smoother, quieter and better finish.
@johngriffin641Ай бұрын
@@torsiondell thanks.
@ivanlopezvergara2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. I have a Kundo and I changed the torsion spring. I use the Horolovar 0032" - .081mm Anniversary Clock Suspension Spring but the clock gained more than 30 minutes every 24 hours, so I followed your instruction to thin it and it works great!
@torsiondell2 ай бұрын
Glad the video was useful to you.
@richardboudreau54612 ай бұрын
This was a great video and I am sure everything you talked about relates to my problem. Got my Kundo home from the repair shop, started it up and in the morning, it was still running but had lost about 4 minutes. The repair guy showed me the wheel to turn to adjust for fast or slow. I turned it to the right to speed it up. That's all I did and now it won't stay running for more than 20 minutes. I may have turned the wheel too far, so I have turned it back a bit, about 4 times, hoping that would solve the problem. Then I saw your video and realized that I did not start the clock up with a full turn of the pendulum. So I started it up again, properly, but it is still stopping. This was just serviced, cleaned, new wire, the whole nine and it ran all night till I touched that adjustment wheel. I am at my wits end. I will say that I watched through the holes in the back and those things don't look like they are making smooth clicks. They seem to be laboring to click. Any thoughts???
@torsiondell2 ай бұрын
Hi Richard it sounds like you have twisted the torsion spring or it’s gone out of beat, take it back to clockmakers.
@rinklestiltskin2 ай бұрын
Are you shaking hands with an invisible dwarf in your thumbnail?
@AngelPerez-kn2do2 ай бұрын
Saludos quisiera oírlo en español por favor.tengo uno con la suspención rota y no se cómo hacerla gracias
@torsiondell2 ай бұрын
Sorry I don’t speak Spanish
@robertrenshaw2232 ай бұрын
Interesting job.
@torsiondell2 ай бұрын
Thanks Rob it certainly works well and much smoother and quieter.
@colindrakes46073 ай бұрын
Great job, looks spot on, hope it works OK.
@torsiondell3 ай бұрын
Thanks Colin so far so good.
@EvertVerbeek3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video course! I'm going to repair a clock now, but before I start I want to know if the anchor should flutter without a spring? If I move the anchor pin back and forth with tweezers, it jumps slightly. Is that enough force to turn the spring?
@torsiondell3 ай бұрын
If the fork is in the correct place then the weight of the pendulum will stop flutter and it doesn’t need to turn the spring it just gives enough impulse to keep the clock going
@EvertVerbeek3 ай бұрын
@@torsiondell Thanks for your quick reply, (faster than I can read :-)) So if the fork doesn't flutter without a spring installed, does that mean that the clock is defective?
@torsiondell3 ай бұрын
@@EvertVerbeek no every torsion clock is different even of the same manufacture
@orchardwatchandclockrepair83463 ай бұрын
Great work
@torsiondell3 ай бұрын
Thanks
@orchardwatchandclockrepair83463 ай бұрын
Excellent
@AmateurRepairTime4 ай бұрын
What a great channel! I have several of these I'm going to attempt to repair, your videos will be very helpful, thank you!
@petersincak52124 ай бұрын
Nice Derek
@adloram4 ай бұрын
Can you share a list of the parts you've purchased for the ML10 either here or in the video description? It would help a ton since the Rocketronics website is a bit confusing :) Thanks!
@torsiondell4 ай бұрын
This is the kit I purchased www.rocketronics.de/shop/en/paket-step-M.html plus the ELS 4 basic controller
@adloram4 ай бұрын
@@torsiondell Thanks! Is your ml10 imperial or metric? I'm currently looking for a metric lead screw, can't find any and Myford themselves don't make them anymore as the request is just too low.
@torsiondell4 ай бұрын
It’s imperial but it doesn’t matter with Rocketronics it converts to metric because you put the leadscrew threads in settings ie 8tpi converts to 3.175mm so that’s what you input in to control but I can’t remember what the crosslide leadscrew was but easy to Google , you can also put the backlash in settings so it compensates for it , you can cut metric and imperial threads but for imperial you just have to convert to metric to input into control, I love it.
@torsiondell4 ай бұрын
Message me on messenger if you have any more questions @torsiondell
@adloram4 ай бұрын
@@torsiondellthat’s great news! Thanks for sharing! I’ll add you on messenger
@rinklestiltskin4 ай бұрын
Why does the barrel top cover cut out need to align with the spring hook pin?
@torsiondell4 ай бұрын
It doesn’t always but it needs to go back on in the same place as when removed
@user-rr1bd9qx3c4 ай бұрын
Can you advise me how I fix the fork into the pin please. Great video by the way so informative.
@torsiondell4 ай бұрын
Thanks , you don’t fix the fork to the pin the fork tines just sit either side of the pin, if it was fixed to it it wouldn’t work, the pin has to be free to move but just a very small gap.
@adattamentorestaurobeograd57045 ай бұрын
Bravo!!!
@adattamentorestaurobeograd57045 ай бұрын
Hello Size of wire dimensions 0.1x0.4...or
@torsiondell5 ай бұрын
Not sure what you mean
@adattamentorestaurobeograd57045 ай бұрын
Thickness
@munnerlyn35 ай бұрын
great video........
@colindrakes46075 ай бұрын
Very helpful video, much appreciated.
@TUCBER6 ай бұрын
Me too. I work on it one mouth. But now super
@cesarbermudez71176 ай бұрын
Básicamente como Funciona ? ????
@cesarbermudez71176 ай бұрын
Cómo se llama este tipo de reloj y de qué época salieron ?
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Always interesting watching you Dell. It reminds me what I used to do. From oldhippy.
Good job I learned a lot
Derek a pin cleaning is very interersting ... I am not sure if I can do it - you have inspired me ...
Your videos reveal what bad shape my P types bed is in!
@@jambusspeakermouse1325 as long as it’s only the bed then look out for a replacement, the head & tailstock will fit.
Another great video Derek. That pivot reminds me of a French clock as some of their pivots can be really tiny. Keep it up.
Hi I have a 400 day clock, had it for 10 years. But over the last couple years it would stop. At first it would start up and run for months and over time it would only run for shorter times. I’ve changed the suspension spring to a 0.102 mm and I have a 0.114 spring. From watching the movement I noticed the escape wheel at the anchor jamming. I’ve noticed wear on the escape wheel. Not sure how to send pictures . Any ideas?
@@alanbirchenough7263 I would be very surprised if the escape wheel had any wear , if it hasn’t been serviced in the last 10 years then there is probably congealed old oil causing friction, it probably just needs a service if you are on facebook just message me on messenger @torsiondell
I always leave the tapered pins in and just unscrew the screws. The only reason I would dismantle it (remove all the tapered pins) completely is cleaning.
@@gerryodonnell321 as the saying goes there is more than one way to skin a rabbit
how much
@@jaysooriah9239 it wasn’t mine I just repaired it.
What if you don't know how long it should be? Mine was missing the lower block when I got it, so I have no idea how long it should be,
@@rickdozier3609 most bit not all have full size diagrams in the book but if not then I fit top block fit to clock, then sit pendulum on something 1/4” thick then cut torsion spring in middle of hook on pendulum then finish making up.
For the wicks, are they also made of felt? Edit: I commented too quickly. You answered my question in the next sentence. Really useful videos, thanks!
Another helpful video Derek. Keep them up....................
That was helpful and interesting, I've personally had nothing to do with those torsion type of clocks, but if I ever did need one repairing or servicing, you would be hearing from me. Good of you to generously share your knowledge, thanks.
Really helpful, thank you.
I've done this a different way, not really knowing for sure how to do it. I like your way better and looks much easier than the way I was doing it.
Another job well done Derek. My only suggestion is your title again to add the words "Torsion/Anniversary Clock" to allow all audiences to find your video. Keep them coming my friend.
@@munnerlyn3 Thanks Mark I remember you telling me to add Anniversary to the title before ( done )
Another great video Derek. As always. Love watching your work. You should add the words "Torsion/Anniversary clock" to your title to cover all audiences. As you know here in America most people dont know what a Torsion Clock is. That will help you gain more audiences as they search for either Torsion or Anniversary clock. You should do this to all your videos. Just trying to help you gain more audience/subscribers. Keep these videos coming my friend.
Thanks Derek. So useful to see how the work is actually done. What rod did you use and how did you know which die to use? I am sure at some stage I will need to make a screw, so very useful knowledge for me.
@@user-pi6su1wx7o the screw was made from silver steel & with very small screws it’s not possible to determine thread any other way than try different taps in thread & screw in dies.
@@torsiondell Thank you, and thanks for the time you spend helping/educating others. Much appreciated.
That was good thanks. What material was it, and do you cut the threads without oil?
@@rinklestiltskin the material was silver steel and yes although I didn’t show it I always use cutting oil otherwise it will blunt the die very quickly and not cut a very clean thread.
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing!
Interesting video, thanks for filming it, nice to see how you go about the cleaning and polishing process.
@@colindrakes4607 thanks Colin
Can you do a video about polishing the plates? If you lacquer them how do you not get lacquer in the pivot holes?
@@nicksantitoro I just do the same as the base to polish plates just minimal polish on cloth, i never lacquer plates although I have in the past I just use Renaissance wax , on early clocks they are not lacquered anyway but later ones are so don’t clean in ammonia solution for long otherwise it will remove lacquer, if you want to lacquer plates just peg all holes lacquer then remove peg by twisting them to remove
Please, Your Advise on cleaning the dials (G Becker), I'm worried about the numbers are they in the ceramic or printed on top? Thanks,
@@saintsi6997 I think they are enamelled but not certain best test somewhere not obvious
Top man, just about to do this to a Torsion Disc G Becker (marked BHA). I was going to dip the lot in Horolene ammonia liquid.
Hi, i have what i believe to be all the parts for this however i can't figure out what causes it to stay closed? Is it a lever action where it connects to the headstock? Possible i'm missing some bits if that's not the case. Edit: on closer inspection yours is different, i have one for a P type.
@@jambusspeakermouse1325 in the round handle there is a spring loaded ball bearing .
Hi Derek. You might want to add the words "Torsion/anniversary clock to your title" or at least "clock". As that are key words that people search for when wanting to repair them. As always great job Derek...........Keep it up. Thanks for sharing this beautiful clock repair with us. P.S. I am glad that you are feeling better.
Hi Dell, I'm oldhippy. Did you grease or oil the mainspring. Putting the movement together, have you tried working from the bottom upwards that is the way my master taught me it makes it easier. It would also be nice to show your method of polishing and cleaning. I expect the dome is glass due to its age and not that horrible plastic.
Hi I used synthetic thin Mobil 1 engine oil as I have done for a long time , I put the movement together from the centre arbor outward and I don’t usually have that much trouble, I have done a video how I lacquer but not cleaning and polishing because I thought most people know how to clean & polish but I could do one as I have quite a few more to do and some customers.
@@torsiondell I will check that out. I think people like to know how we get things done. I used to have many people coming into my workshop and asking different things.
Hello, I'm about to buy one, the pendulum locking mechanism is above it, almost where the torsion rope is attached, not below the base. Is it also advisable to take down the pendulum? To transport it by car?
If the clock has a good pendulum lock then it should be fine for transportation when locked but I always wrap the pendulum as well just to be sure, but if it’s easy to remove pendulum then that’s what I do.
@@torsiondell Thank you very much for the prompt response, yes, the pendulum is only hanging, I better remove it, and make sure that the twisting thread or wire does not suffer any movement or pull. Greetings from Buenos Aires, Argentina
Hola ,estoy por comprar uno ,el mecanismo de traba del pendulo está arriba del mismo,casi donde se engancha cuerda de torsión, no abajo de la base. Igualmente es recomendable descolgar el pendulo? Para transportarlo en auto?
What is the speed range now without the gears?
On the display it is showing 100 to 1425 , I only have single pulley but if it had twin pulley it could be faster but it’s plenty fast enough for what I do but it’s smoother, quieter and better finish.
@@torsiondell thanks.
Thank you very much. I have a Kundo and I changed the torsion spring. I use the Horolovar 0032" - .081mm Anniversary Clock Suspension Spring but the clock gained more than 30 minutes every 24 hours, so I followed your instruction to thin it and it works great!
Glad the video was useful to you.
This was a great video and I am sure everything you talked about relates to my problem. Got my Kundo home from the repair shop, started it up and in the morning, it was still running but had lost about 4 minutes. The repair guy showed me the wheel to turn to adjust for fast or slow. I turned it to the right to speed it up. That's all I did and now it won't stay running for more than 20 minutes. I may have turned the wheel too far, so I have turned it back a bit, about 4 times, hoping that would solve the problem. Then I saw your video and realized that I did not start the clock up with a full turn of the pendulum. So I started it up again, properly, but it is still stopping. This was just serviced, cleaned, new wire, the whole nine and it ran all night till I touched that adjustment wheel. I am at my wits end. I will say that I watched through the holes in the back and those things don't look like they are making smooth clicks. They seem to be laboring to click. Any thoughts???
Hi Richard it sounds like you have twisted the torsion spring or it’s gone out of beat, take it back to clockmakers.
Are you shaking hands with an invisible dwarf in your thumbnail?
Saludos quisiera oírlo en español por favor.tengo uno con la suspención rota y no se cómo hacerla gracias
Sorry I don’t speak Spanish
Interesting job.
Thanks Rob it certainly works well and much smoother and quieter.
Great job, looks spot on, hope it works OK.
Thanks Colin so far so good.
Thanks for the video course! I'm going to repair a clock now, but before I start I want to know if the anchor should flutter without a spring? If I move the anchor pin back and forth with tweezers, it jumps slightly. Is that enough force to turn the spring?
If the fork is in the correct place then the weight of the pendulum will stop flutter and it doesn’t need to turn the spring it just gives enough impulse to keep the clock going
@@torsiondell Thanks for your quick reply, (faster than I can read :-)) So if the fork doesn't flutter without a spring installed, does that mean that the clock is defective?
@@EvertVerbeek no every torsion clock is different even of the same manufacture
Great work
Thanks
Excellent
What a great channel! I have several of these I'm going to attempt to repair, your videos will be very helpful, thank you!
Nice Derek
Can you share a list of the parts you've purchased for the ML10 either here or in the video description? It would help a ton since the Rocketronics website is a bit confusing :) Thanks!
This is the kit I purchased www.rocketronics.de/shop/en/paket-step-M.html plus the ELS 4 basic controller
@@torsiondell Thanks! Is your ml10 imperial or metric? I'm currently looking for a metric lead screw, can't find any and Myford themselves don't make them anymore as the request is just too low.
It’s imperial but it doesn’t matter with Rocketronics it converts to metric because you put the leadscrew threads in settings ie 8tpi converts to 3.175mm so that’s what you input in to control but I can’t remember what the crosslide leadscrew was but easy to Google , you can also put the backlash in settings so it compensates for it , you can cut metric and imperial threads but for imperial you just have to convert to metric to input into control, I love it.
Message me on messenger if you have any more questions @torsiondell
@@torsiondellthat’s great news! Thanks for sharing! I’ll add you on messenger
Why does the barrel top cover cut out need to align with the spring hook pin?
It doesn’t always but it needs to go back on in the same place as when removed
Can you advise me how I fix the fork into the pin please. Great video by the way so informative.
Thanks , you don’t fix the fork to the pin the fork tines just sit either side of the pin, if it was fixed to it it wouldn’t work, the pin has to be free to move but just a very small gap.
Bravo!!!
Hello Size of wire dimensions 0.1x0.4...or
Not sure what you mean
Thickness
great video........
Very helpful video, much appreciated.
Me too. I work on it one mouth. But now super
Básicamente como Funciona ? ????
Cómo se llama este tipo de reloj y de qué época salieron ?
What language so I can translate