Thanks for the great video. I hope what you taught will help me fix my crooked slide!!
@miketrentham66324 күн бұрын
I've been welding and fabricating for over 50 years and I also have a Montana 5th wheel RV. I have repaired plenty of campers over the years. The major thing I have found is that the frame manufacturers use to thin of tubing for areas that require more strength. They also don't use gussets for bracing in statigic areas. Another thing that I have noticed is the bad quality of welds. Most frame companies use mig monkeys on the assembly line and they are rated on production.
@christianwalter293912 күн бұрын
I too have been welding for many years. And apparently engineers have gotten in the way of a welders integrity of doing his job. I know they have to build the trailer so they're light enough so they can put their body work on top of the trailer but the engineers at lippert know how to build a trailer solid but they are directed by the trailer manufacturer such as Grand design or whatever to what they're going to do and they are not able to do what they should. If you folks with these fifth wheels start blocking up roadways by where the trailer manufacturer not leopard but Grand design etc etc or you'll start getting more action I'm surprised there hasn't been more of class action lawsuits and more of the attorney generals for the states getting involved for this this is going to become serious as serious as pintos and corvair troubles
@rixward547513 күн бұрын
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@cwkhonda19 күн бұрын
You had me when you said it works on anything until the 2 week curing time and then the list of things you can't or shouldn't use it on. not worth the risk on my RV. I'll just go with Pro Flex.
@fabiodriven24 күн бұрын
It's disgusting what the RV industry has turned into! These things are trash from new!
@jtet812627 күн бұрын
There are so many Lippert broken frames out there, i am surprised a class action lawsuit has been started yet. Everyone should band together and start one.
@larryjackson8675Ай бұрын
Wanna bet lippert starts a blame game of customer overloading trailer cause a huge class action suit is well on its way. Their fixes will not work the metal is waaaaay too thin to take the stresses
@user-xd6tw4lu7vАй бұрын
best one yet , others are no way as clear as you
@kevinanderson5468Ай бұрын
I’ve had my 5th wheel - bought new- 2014 , looked very nice and expensive to boot - however upon closer inspection - I had to put 40 hours of repair work in it before I can pull down the highway with peace of mind so basically I bought an expensive piece of junk all that being said I love my camper but I would never ever buy a new one and now I know what to look for !!!!! some of the comments said they’re all junk and I agree 100%
@hoppy6663Ай бұрын
This is a Lippert issue , they design and build the frame , Lippert from what I read says they build according to the specifications from the Rv company! If this company builds frames for most Rv products, they should know what standards and specifications work and tell the Rv designers this is how it must be designed to stand up to every day use! It’s their responsibility and their reputation on the line !
@ajett5081Ай бұрын
Third world wiring. among other things.
@brucedeleskey8540Ай бұрын
Being a welder for forty years and seeing that steel and the size all that tugne weight I will never buy a camper it's not heavy steel to cheepy maid to me it's a big wast of money I say it's better to stay at hotels
@garylawson5230Ай бұрын
How are the leveling Jack's how many are there and how do you fix the axle or frame. Has the roto flex king pin box been updated so the rubber block stays in place.
@DrMottАй бұрын
Lippert frames are garbage and these rv's are 6 figures. What a shame.
@npfd568rcАй бұрын
I personally think these manufacturers are overloading these frames beyond what they are engineered for.
@anneburke8709Ай бұрын
What’s the model? 41LKB? Didn’t mention hairline plastic or acrylic for slides, impermeable to water. Double pane Windows? Comment on Roof? Alpha Sys SuperFlex TPO - prefer FlexArmor. Good note regarding Moryde IS (standard on DRV, including Kodiak disc brakes). Thanks for video!
@jeffreylindley8452 ай бұрын
These RVs are absolute junk from the day they were built.
@jasonalper78982 ай бұрын
Half my roof is peeled back paid for a full roof, think i might pull the roof off myself before i take it down there,
@picklerpickler87852 ай бұрын
Lippert really needs to reinforce these frames. Geesh add an extra hundred pound of steel and reinforce everything.
@jeannealex25602 ай бұрын
I use lexel..never have that kind of problem removing it..but I use a hair dryer...solftens it up...only use mineral sprites after removal to clean and prepare for new lexel...
@khg85192 ай бұрын
poor design joins in all the high stress areas
@jimmyerbe7682 ай бұрын
Is that overhead thing a weld ? Looks more like:::;;;;; Salmon 🐟 swimming upstream ? Waves 🌊 coming onto the beach ? My runnie😢 nose shoveling snow ?
@johnryan88082 ай бұрын
Junk.
@patriot80872 ай бұрын
I'm serious this is pathetic, this is definitely some pretty pi** poor engineering. This is a total frame failure. Call it what it is, not a flex frame. This is not rocket science. Why is Lippert taking in some cases a year to discover the cause of the failure. Now all of America will get to see what kind of a company Lippert really is.
@marckruse21813 ай бұрын
Lippert stands for low quality. They have zero quality control. That combined with bad engineering and sloppy manual manufacturing is a bad combination for RV customers. P.S. there is only one thing that is worse than a Lippert frame and that is a Lippert slide 😂
@BrianS_Twin23 ай бұрын
cheap China steel being used
@terrellthompson29693 ай бұрын
Class A all day 😢😢😢😢 and they are slacking on the build quality on them now also
@mel.0kay3 ай бұрын
As a hvac tech for 35 yrs, I once saw a demonstration on bolt strength. American verses import. Grade 8. After the demonstration I found out why only American made bolts are spec. In nuclear power plant construction. The imports don’t care to make the quality American bolt manufacturers live up to. To this day, I look at bolts, screws, and fasteners a totally different light
@user-qn5is1xm5u3 ай бұрын
Could be more?
@lawdawg58233 ай бұрын
I think the cable is worn because the cable is rubbing on the aluminum bracket when it goes in and out.
@lawdawg58233 ай бұрын
What about checking for cables rubbing on the brackets going in and out? One side of my cables are rubbing I think I need to loosen that side a bit
@MrAnderson3523 ай бұрын
My 2018 DRV roof is shaped all wrong it doesn’t shed water and it has very cheesy roof decking the interior is very good wood and materials a lot of the stuff you can’t see seems to be pretty shoddy as far as workmanship and quality control I hope my frame isn’t broken I do like the fifth wheel but it’s a lot to keep together I think the less you move them the better they stay together park them under a awning or in the desert they could last a while too there are too many places for them to leak I live in mine houses are junk too though there aren’t really any good housing options it’s all a scam.
@bigbandguru3 ай бұрын
Problem is slide on the front.
@JohnnyinMN3 ай бұрын
Wow. I’m not an RV’r, but I feel bad for you guys. I expect to start seeing those lawyer commercials (like you see for asbestos) soon.
@Premier-Media-Group3 ай бұрын
And yet RVIA will continue to slap their stickers on these rigs for that sweet, sweet mfg money!
@Premier-Media-Group3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, these spot repairs will only cause the remaining weak spots down the frame to show up in a year or two.
@NigelM183 ай бұрын
And this is my big concern. You see all these vids on how great a company is, then you go in and this happens to you. I feel so bad for these owners of this rig.
@TOSSITUPGAMES3 ай бұрын
fitch plates at joints with bolts would be better ..that fix won't last either , too much camper for the frame ...
@TOSSITUPGAMES3 ай бұрын
should have been reinforced to begin with .. also screws are a terrible fastener for aluminum , through bolts should be used on gussetts ...adding more braces would be very minimal at the factory ... 150,000 vehicle should have some regulations on how its built
@user-iw5ce9px3f3 ай бұрын
ALL RV's leak right from the factory, it can take a long time before you realize it and then damage is done, they are all junk....highly, highly over priced.
@daviddodge94683 ай бұрын
Bal Accu cable slides are junk. if its not the cable breaking its the motor going out or the gearbox striping.I have replaced all of them.
@MVaccaTTACK3 ай бұрын
Great video. Mines way off on the bottom and top a little bit. Getting some leaking on the top of the slide. Hoping it’s the issue
@paulie2tanks3 ай бұрын
does a class A RV suffer from the same issues? Thanks, Paulie
@robertpsotka35253 ай бұрын
Bottom line is that people are spending 6 figures on a piece of junk on wheels
@enarandyr91223 ай бұрын
Lippert. Nice folks but they can’t build a frame worth $hit.
@realasscracka4 ай бұрын
Lippert probably a sack of shyyyyt company. I’m glad they don’t build bridges.
@thomaswilson86344 ай бұрын
Lippert frame bites again
@raybonecrusher45164 ай бұрын
There is stress from two points of direction on the tubular frame. The fix you have done puts the stress higher on the tube and can reappear in the future. The design for the frame is not engineered correctly for weight and flex.
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Thanks for the great video. I hope what you taught will help me fix my crooked slide!!
I've been welding and fabricating for over 50 years and I also have a Montana 5th wheel RV. I have repaired plenty of campers over the years. The major thing I have found is that the frame manufacturers use to thin of tubing for areas that require more strength. They also don't use gussets for bracing in statigic areas. Another thing that I have noticed is the bad quality of welds. Most frame companies use mig monkeys on the assembly line and they are rated on production.
I too have been welding for many years. And apparently engineers have gotten in the way of a welders integrity of doing his job. I know they have to build the trailer so they're light enough so they can put their body work on top of the trailer but the engineers at lippert know how to build a trailer solid but they are directed by the trailer manufacturer such as Grand design or whatever to what they're going to do and they are not able to do what they should. If you folks with these fifth wheels start blocking up roadways by where the trailer manufacturer not leopard but Grand design etc etc or you'll start getting more action I'm surprised there hasn't been more of class action lawsuits and more of the attorney generals for the states getting involved for this this is going to become serious as serious as pintos and corvair troubles
kzread.info/dash/bejne/pqeukpKyhaqahNI.html
You had me when you said it works on anything until the 2 week curing time and then the list of things you can't or shouldn't use it on. not worth the risk on my RV. I'll just go with Pro Flex.
It's disgusting what the RV industry has turned into! These things are trash from new!
There are so many Lippert broken frames out there, i am surprised a class action lawsuit has been started yet. Everyone should band together and start one.
Wanna bet lippert starts a blame game of customer overloading trailer cause a huge class action suit is well on its way. Their fixes will not work the metal is waaaaay too thin to take the stresses
best one yet , others are no way as clear as you
I’ve had my 5th wheel - bought new- 2014 , looked very nice and expensive to boot - however upon closer inspection - I had to put 40 hours of repair work in it before I can pull down the highway with peace of mind so basically I bought an expensive piece of junk all that being said I love my camper but I would never ever buy a new one and now I know what to look for !!!!! some of the comments said they’re all junk and I agree 100%
This is a Lippert issue , they design and build the frame , Lippert from what I read says they build according to the specifications from the Rv company! If this company builds frames for most Rv products, they should know what standards and specifications work and tell the Rv designers this is how it must be designed to stand up to every day use! It’s their responsibility and their reputation on the line !
Third world wiring. among other things.
Being a welder for forty years and seeing that steel and the size all that tugne weight I will never buy a camper it's not heavy steel to cheepy maid to me it's a big wast of money I say it's better to stay at hotels
How are the leveling Jack's how many are there and how do you fix the axle or frame. Has the roto flex king pin box been updated so the rubber block stays in place.
Lippert frames are garbage and these rv's are 6 figures. What a shame.
I personally think these manufacturers are overloading these frames beyond what they are engineered for.
What’s the model? 41LKB? Didn’t mention hairline plastic or acrylic for slides, impermeable to water. Double pane Windows? Comment on Roof? Alpha Sys SuperFlex TPO - prefer FlexArmor. Good note regarding Moryde IS (standard on DRV, including Kodiak disc brakes). Thanks for video!
These RVs are absolute junk from the day they were built.
Half my roof is peeled back paid for a full roof, think i might pull the roof off myself before i take it down there,
Lippert really needs to reinforce these frames. Geesh add an extra hundred pound of steel and reinforce everything.
I use lexel..never have that kind of problem removing it..but I use a hair dryer...solftens it up...only use mineral sprites after removal to clean and prepare for new lexel...
poor design joins in all the high stress areas
Is that overhead thing a weld ? Looks more like:::;;;;; Salmon 🐟 swimming upstream ? Waves 🌊 coming onto the beach ? My runnie😢 nose shoveling snow ?
Junk.
I'm serious this is pathetic, this is definitely some pretty pi** poor engineering. This is a total frame failure. Call it what it is, not a flex frame. This is not rocket science. Why is Lippert taking in some cases a year to discover the cause of the failure. Now all of America will get to see what kind of a company Lippert really is.
Lippert stands for low quality. They have zero quality control. That combined with bad engineering and sloppy manual manufacturing is a bad combination for RV customers. P.S. there is only one thing that is worse than a Lippert frame and that is a Lippert slide 😂
cheap China steel being used
Class A all day 😢😢😢😢 and they are slacking on the build quality on them now also
As a hvac tech for 35 yrs, I once saw a demonstration on bolt strength. American verses import. Grade 8. After the demonstration I found out why only American made bolts are spec. In nuclear power plant construction. The imports don’t care to make the quality American bolt manufacturers live up to. To this day, I look at bolts, screws, and fasteners a totally different light
Could be more?
I think the cable is worn because the cable is rubbing on the aluminum bracket when it goes in and out.
What about checking for cables rubbing on the brackets going in and out? One side of my cables are rubbing I think I need to loosen that side a bit
My 2018 DRV roof is shaped all wrong it doesn’t shed water and it has very cheesy roof decking the interior is very good wood and materials a lot of the stuff you can’t see seems to be pretty shoddy as far as workmanship and quality control I hope my frame isn’t broken I do like the fifth wheel but it’s a lot to keep together I think the less you move them the better they stay together park them under a awning or in the desert they could last a while too there are too many places for them to leak I live in mine houses are junk too though there aren’t really any good housing options it’s all a scam.
Problem is slide on the front.
Wow. I’m not an RV’r, but I feel bad for you guys. I expect to start seeing those lawyer commercials (like you see for asbestos) soon.
And yet RVIA will continue to slap their stickers on these rigs for that sweet, sweet mfg money!
Unfortunately, these spot repairs will only cause the remaining weak spots down the frame to show up in a year or two.
And this is my big concern. You see all these vids on how great a company is, then you go in and this happens to you. I feel so bad for these owners of this rig.
fitch plates at joints with bolts would be better ..that fix won't last either , too much camper for the frame ...
should have been reinforced to begin with .. also screws are a terrible fastener for aluminum , through bolts should be used on gussetts ...adding more braces would be very minimal at the factory ... 150,000 vehicle should have some regulations on how its built
ALL RV's leak right from the factory, it can take a long time before you realize it and then damage is done, they are all junk....highly, highly over priced.
Bal Accu cable slides are junk. if its not the cable breaking its the motor going out or the gearbox striping.I have replaced all of them.
Great video. Mines way off on the bottom and top a little bit. Getting some leaking on the top of the slide. Hoping it’s the issue
does a class A RV suffer from the same issues? Thanks, Paulie
Bottom line is that people are spending 6 figures on a piece of junk on wheels
Lippert. Nice folks but they can’t build a frame worth $hit.
Lippert probably a sack of shyyyyt company. I’m glad they don’t build bridges.
Lippert frame bites again
There is stress from two points of direction on the tubular frame. The fix you have done puts the stress higher on the tube and can reappear in the future. The design for the frame is not engineered correctly for weight and flex.
That’s unbelievable !!!!!!