Videos about rail transport by Martin Bennet - some educational stuff, and some straight-up railfan stuff!
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“We don’t traditionally like to learn from other states” 😂😂😂
I find it ironic that Melbourne's public transport network is privatised to private companies partly owned by foreign governments. Metro Trains Melbourne majority-owned by MTR Corporation which itself is majority-owned by Hong Kong Government. And Yarra Trams operated by Keolis Downer which is half-owned by Keolis of which is jointly owned by the SNCF, French national railway company owned by the French government, and an investment fund of the Canadian provncial government of Quebec.
There were also small ones that had limited options- like north wollongong - where you could get only the tickets for selected south coast line and city. You had to buy a ticket at the other end of your trip if you went beyond central.
I was really curious about the trains out side japan. It’s really different in here.
I don't think those are T classes at 16:50, they would be X or XR?
They're definitely Ts! (Or possibly H, same shape)
@@Taitsetyou’re right. i’m just not used to seeing Ts in Pacific National livery 😂. I’m used to seeing X/XR.
@Alexander_Dunn Yeah I don't think many T's got that livery!
11:25 Richmond station looks a lot different now: shelters now cover the entire platform and the exit towards John Cain Arena is undercover too.
The irony with the Overland is the same issues are now being faced with the IP in Perth. Because Our state government's METRONET wants to increase trains on the already overcrowded Midland/Airport and soon to be Ellenbrook line, they're kicking the IP out from East Perth Terminal... the station that they built SPECIFICALLY FOR THE INDIAN PACIFIC! and instead, they're making it terminate at Kewdale freight depot, and bussing passengers into town... To be fair, one would immediately say that the Midland line currently does not have the capacity on it's dual-track route before they went and opened the Airport line, and the only logical way to increase capacity is to build a third or fourth line adjacent to the current one to sustain the trains, which currently is not possible due to the embankments the route covers are surrounded by roads at either end...
nah perth is best
You should talk about the W series train
Never forget the old paper tickets! Those machines were like an early form of pokies for some of us Sydney kids. Put money in, get a colourful card in return and end up somewhere random 😅.
Actually I’ve got a question, how come with most M-T-M sets the numbers of the trailer cars seemingly go way higher than motor cars despite being outnumbered 2-1?
Each car type (and each train type) is within its own number range, so being a higher number doesn't mean there are more of them, it just means they started from a higher number. Possibly they made all the T cars in 4 digit ranges to make them more obviously separate.
My dad always refered to them (and comengs) as silver trains. Obviously as opposed to the Harris trains and red rattlers.
You put a lot of effort into making this video, thank you.
I used to make my own each week, in photoshop and print them out and just show them at the gates. Saved thousands each year
perth trains run really different to melbourne in terms of whistles, literally the only time they get whistled is when kids wave to the train going into a station
What sbout Wondabyne to Woy Woy Single?
Thanks for the vid dude. Great work.
Coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Unfortunately, NZ's obsession with business and capitalism for decades has ruined infrastructure including trains due to cancellations. The service is abysmal.
My life is now complete!
I've been on the vline trains a lot both the Sprinter and VLocity. I vaguely remember the N sets
Living on the Craigieburn line, I'll be glad to eventually see the Comeng trains replaced with modern ones like others on the network.
Best trains ever!!
A well-timed upload, seeing as I was just in Melbourne. Regarding the driving trailer in the middle of the Tait EMU, I thought that was confusing, especially after seeing the preserved set on the Sunbury Line last weekend. My favourite Melbourne EMU is easily the Comeng. That's because I generally prefer older trains to new ones, and the Comeng's traction motor sound is great. I guess the one thing I don't like or understand about these units is the fact that you have to pull the doors open rather than pressing a button. In any case, by favourite Comeng coach is 352M, and my second favourite Melbourne EMU is the refurbished Harris.
So thats where tait set comes from
Intercity 125 of the suburban victoria
I fondly remember riding the old red and blue trains. I'm so glad to be 55, so I remember the cool older Melbourne. :)
When's the broadmeadows runaway episode 3 coming out?
Very good video Martin! Don't apologise for being nerdy, some of us appreciate it. That 'count the cars' game is getting harder and harder to play as you have to really seek out a LX. I guess you can still do it station but it gets pretty easy with train types and consists being very consistant, at least for us Belgrave/Lilydale commuters. Its also interesting the car number leads the classification, 123M. This is an old VR practice for passnger and guards vans going back early 1900's, maybe even earlier. Goods wagons are class then number, ie GY 1234. Well researched and I think this type of video encourages the less nerdy to really take notice of what a great transport system they have. Now we just have to get them to watch it.
are any of the trams in the melbourne tram museum operational?
I believe most of them are, but no longer allowed out on the network for a whole range of red tape reasons.
Can anyone explain to me why Sydney trains are WAY smoother and even the tracks in Sydney are much smoother and clean looking in regards to all the tracks curve nicely and even looking while melbourne tracks are wonky
Melbourne suffered from decades of neglect from roughly the 70s to the early 2010s, with very minimal maintenance taking place, and we're still catching up on that.
@Taitset this makes sense, I look at the railways in Sydney and they're very streamlined and no bumpy bits it just seems so bizzare the difference between Melbourne and sydney
I was always confused when only three cars pulled up to the platform. I felt like walking up to the cab to ask the driver if they've forgotten anything but was too awkward to ask.
This is excellent, and if at some point you'd like to do a similar video on Sydney's rolling stock I'd love that! Edit: A more in depth video on Sydney's rolling stock, if depth is possible. And I'd like to hear about the interesting 2 and 3 letter systems on the intercity trains.
I always loved the sound of the compressor in the Tait.
Anyone else got the Thomas & Friends runaway theme stuck in their head?
Omg i rmbr the chair layout now!! Those tartan chairs 😊 openable windows are still cool. Maybe in mild weather?
what station is 00:16 ?
Montmorency.
An interesting fact about this line is that while the freeway was being built over the line at Macaulay, the line was closed between the light repair centre and Flemington Bridge, and a crossover was installed at Flemington bridge to cater for running a shuttle service between there and Upfield. This was initially provided by three-car Comeng trains which were, of course, captive to that section. However, because of the Comeng trains not being sufficiently reliable (given that they couldn't go to the light repair centre or anywhere else for maintenance for the duration), the railways replaced them with three-car Silver (aka Hitachi) sets. The only way to do this was to tow the Silver sets in and the Comeng sets out by diesel over the Upfield-Somerton section. This was, I believe, the last time any trains ran over that section.
23:00 it's been pushed back to 2029
It seems like its a global trend to simplify and set-ify EMU trains for the sake of operating efficiency. Seoul's first ever subway trains were originally designed to have 6 cars per set, and would double to 12 cars in peak hours. However, this never happened as, like you mentioned, its practically a waste of time and resources trying to couple and decouple sets. Hence the trains were just lengthened to 10 cars, and future models of the metro never had any center gangway doors on the cabs.
Speaking of fun train noises, when I was living in Yokohama I used to ride the Keikyu Line and the sound of the N1000 Series when they accelerate is really nice. They're nicknamed "Do-re-mi-fa Inverters." Worth checking out. I think they retired them a couple of years ago though.
I wish our metro trains out here had trailer cars. They're all M unfortunately, so there's no avoiding the ear piercingly loud INNOVIA metro sound if someone left a window open.
yes i “9=3 Bomeng
I mean, the second train, not the first one in line
I saw that exact same train when I went on the electric and steam train
The flat lines? It’s Melbourne, they are all flat!
Try telling that to Glen Waverley or Belgrave!
@@TaitsetFlat to a joker from Sydney like myself.
An interesting thing I read in Alex Wardrop's book comparing the two suburban systems is that Melbourne's Tait sets would be unable to operate in Sydney due to their lower powered motors and worse power-to-weight ratio (ignoring the difference in track gauge). Sydney originally adopted only two motors (instead of the usual four) in each powered car for reasons of economy, but these motors were so powerful the trains could climb the 1-in-30 grades found in the Sydney underground system with ease. Melbourne's Tait sets would not have been able to accelerate enough to get into full series motoring to cross the Sydney Harbour Bridge.
I haven't got around to reading that book yet (it's sitting on my shelf!), however the 1 in 30 Jordanville bank on the Glen Waverley line is around twice as long as the climb from Wynyard to the top of the bridge, and involves a stop half way up. So I'd be very surprised if a 7 car Tait couldn't handle the climb out of Wynyard.
@@Taitset Sydney's 1927 stock have much more tractive effort despite only having two motors, and could accelerate much quicker than Melbourne's Tait sets. The two motor design though meant that there wasn't much performance to spare on a wet and windy day.
An interesting thing I read in Alex Wardrop's book comparing the two suburban systems is that Melbourne's Tait sets would be unable to operate in Sydney due to their lower powered motors and worse power-to-weight ratio (ignoring the difference in track gauge). Sydney originally adopted only two motors (instead of the usual four) in each powered car for reasons of economy, but these motors were so powerful the trains could climb the 1-in-30 grades found in the Sydney underground system with ease. Melbourne's Tait sets would not have been able to accelerate enough to get into full series motoring to cross the Sydney Harbour Bridge.
I love your diagrams for track layouts Martin, do you make them yourself?
Thankyou, yes I do!
The three note horn - the soundtrack of my secondary school and uni days.