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  • @zuzie1907
    @zuzie190710 сағат бұрын

    Omg thanks I was looking for this!

  • @BeefBossdagreat
    @BeefBossdagreatКүн бұрын

    I hate Nicole. Her having the GALL to act like a victim pisses me off.

  • @oliver-zzz.
    @oliver-zzz.Күн бұрын

    u can’t be serious💀 …

  • @AJGsTV
    @AJGsTVКүн бұрын

    Jeffery’s ignorance to Nicolle’s issues doesn’t begin to justify her actions. I don’t really care who has it worse… Jeffery can be saved.

  • @imthebossmermaid3648
    @imthebossmermaid36482 күн бұрын

    Jeffrey here is the typical incel. Blaming women for the sexual harassment they face, thinking it is a privilege women receive because they are pretty and that they shouldn’t complain and should be lucky to get the “attention” and victimizing himself because he is lonely and can’t get a girlfriend, even though it is his social ineptitude and creepiness that pushes potential girlfriends away.

  • @oceanman_8370
    @oceanman_83702 күн бұрын

    This really made the game for me. It really summed up all the ideas the game tackles with in a nice complex way. Moments like this make class of 09 stand out as more than the game where that anime girl does crack

  • @AaronMeade-gj9pl
    @AaronMeade-gj9pl2 күн бұрын

    2:47 very good point Nicole moans about the wierd was of school but the moment someone's starts a normal conversation she freaks out

  • @boredomuser3622
    @boredomuser36222 күн бұрын

    Hey Miss you Sorry.

  • @Once_could
    @Once_could4 күн бұрын

    Good video

  • @Once_could
    @Once_could4 күн бұрын

    Thank you! I was so curious about the messages

  • @KrystalGirl29
    @KrystalGirl294 күн бұрын

    I couldnt gaf less about Jeffrey. He is a depraved degenarate and its not up to Nicole to fix him.

  • @chabytemmie
    @chabytemmie5 күн бұрын

    woah wtf i was searching for this

  • @Apple_Bapple
    @Apple_Bapple5 күн бұрын

    i love it when people say "well actually jeffrey has a point", because they're blissfully unaware that they themselves are the problem. they are the issue that this game aims to highlight.

  • @loganmcdougall8647
    @loganmcdougall86478 сағат бұрын

    But both things can be true at the same time???

  • @yurieviy
    @yurieviy6 күн бұрын

    i love you sm

  • @csbanahan
    @csbanahan7 күн бұрын

    I feel like I just watched Arsenic and Cyanide get into a screaming match.

  • @Ambivalence18
    @Ambivalence187 күн бұрын

    @@csbanahan two toxic people!!!

  • @Yeosha_n
    @Yeosha_n7 күн бұрын

    As someone with arachnophobia, this was the most terrifying moment of the game

  • @chlorinetea
    @chlorinetea9 күн бұрын

    CLASS OF 09 HVING A PART TWO IN COLLEGE WOULD GO HARD

  • @Ambivalence18
    @Ambivalence1811 күн бұрын

    Watch my new Class of 09 video, Class of 09 The Re-Up All Endings Plus Text Messages, here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZYufzrCkeZS1Z5c.html

  • @ammarasdiariesxx
    @ammarasdiariesxx11 күн бұрын

    tysm for this video 😭😭😭🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @KaimationOffical
    @KaimationOffical12 күн бұрын

    Basically when the person everyone hates meets the person everyone is obbesed with

  • @musicloverellie
    @musicloverellie12 күн бұрын

    Thank you for this video !!! I have been searching for these messages but haven’t managed to find them until now

  • @petrichor04_
    @petrichor04_18 күн бұрын

    evangelion if it took place in a high school in the late 2000s

  • @xXWIRST_B1TEXx
    @xXWIRST_B1TEXx18 күн бұрын

    Comparing loneliness and SA is crazzyy jeffrey 😭

  • @OliveOilFan
    @OliveOilFan4 күн бұрын

    A lot of men would want that instead of being lonely

  • @Ladisepic
    @Ladisepic18 күн бұрын

    Im pretty sure this is after the valedictorian ending where nicole calls the school out, i wonder if thats the canon ending? It does somewhat feel like a setup to another game in a way

  • @Dxguwu
    @Dxguwu12 күн бұрын

    It is, in the start of the video Jecka ask where Nicole has been. And her clothes is the same as when she talk to P.Lynn in the valedictorian ending

  • @popstar1084
    @popstar10842 күн бұрын

    it is a setup. the upcoming c09 game is focused on jecka’s events post-grad

  • @Ezo-ok2df
    @Ezo-ok2df19 күн бұрын

    this is great

  • @amouxaden
    @amouxaden20 күн бұрын

    Seems the recording gets screwed up around the 30 minute mark.

  • @Ambivalence18
    @Ambivalence1820 күн бұрын

    I’ll try to upload a fixed version when I get the time

  • @jaem0001
    @jaem000121 күн бұрын

    can someone explain what backsync means

  • @sk8rboy
    @sk8rboy5 күн бұрын

    pretty sure it just rewinds the dialouge

  • @OliveOilFan
    @OliveOilFan23 күн бұрын

    Both make very valid points. When you actually play the games and think about it, Jeffery is lonely but everyone knows that, but so is Nicole. If she wasn’t attractive she’d be forgotten and ignored just like him. Both are lonely in the end

  • @nvrneffa
    @nvrneffa29 күн бұрын

    Nicole said herself she wasn't always pretty, not always the "popular socially spoiled girl" she was once left out and most likely picked on so when jeffery says she doesn't understand she def has experienced it.

  • @SoapiiBFDI
    @SoapiiBFDI29 күн бұрын

    I think this may or may not be Nicole in the mental hospital ending trying to escape and someone caught her with a razor blade after getting out of her wheelchair. This is just a theory though! I could be wrong, however the ending part definitely shows the character who’s recording here is Nicole.

  • @scubaduckk
    @scubaduckk3 күн бұрын

    given what JUST came out a few hours ago, im pretty sure this was a teaser for jeckas game coming out this year

  • @shitfromabutt
    @shitfromabutt3 күн бұрын

    @@scubaduckk what came out??

  • @romix6427
    @romix642729 күн бұрын

    I GUESS WE'LL NEVER KNOW 🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🎤🎤🎤

  • @user-ey1ot2mj3p
    @user-ey1ot2mj3p29 күн бұрын

    2 men

  • @ggbg8628
    @ggbg8628Ай бұрын

    I love that Nicole and Jecka actually have a serious talk with Jeffery after he demands her to give him an explanation on her behavior, and then when Jeffery downplays her problems she goes right back to mocking him. They truly aren’t made for eachother.

  • @isufferfromOBCD
    @isufferfromOBCDАй бұрын

    Did Jeffery just rob someone for a pizza watch

  • @Ambivalence18
    @Ambivalence18Ай бұрын

    I believe so!

  • @TheWalkingBreasts
    @TheWalkingBreastsАй бұрын

    This song makes me think back to when one of my classmates died after getting in a car wreck a day after graduation. We weren't great friends, we had some limited but nice interactions. I got confused and mad when another student in our class made a commemorative collage vid after he died for FB, I told her off and we havent spoken since. Two months before he died, I attempted suicide and told our shared teacher I had, but that I thought things were getting better. After, I felt so embarrassed that I just stopped going and didnt see that kid for the rest of the time I couldve. This was in spring of 2018

  • @Mothlord03
    @Mothlord03Ай бұрын

    I know it's always the case, but god every scene with that piano song is heartbreaking. Even when i started the game with no context the main menu made me sad as hell

  • @Serena-nj1es
    @Serena-nj1esАй бұрын

    Hey this might be a big request but if it’s possible can you maybe show all the messages (text ones) Nicole gets after all the endings? I can’t find them anywhere on KZread etc. so it would be really cool if u could do that :)

  • @Ambivalence18
    @Ambivalence18Ай бұрын

    I like that idea.

  • @zimzimwotir1327
    @zimzimwotir132721 күн бұрын

    @@Ambivalence18 waiting for it youre doing gods work frr (also love the misato pfp xx

  • @Ambivalence18
    @Ambivalence1814 күн бұрын

    It's done

  • @Serena-nj1es
    @Serena-nj1es14 күн бұрын

    @@Ambivalence18wait omg that’s so awesome of you thank you

  • @shadowwwwwwwwwww
    @shadowwwwwwwwwwwАй бұрын

    jeffery took pictures of nicole naked in a locker room, he's lucky she didn't out him on stage for being a perverted freak.

  • @Mr_Unpopular
    @Mr_UnpopularАй бұрын

    Perfect example of “the grass is always greener on the other side”

  • @singracia1
    @singracia1Ай бұрын

    One thing that makes me understand Nicole it's the fact she is honest about how horrible she is, she doesn't hide it but she also plays along the way to hummilate others once they don't stop trying to get on her life, which is horrible but it's not quite unprovoked in the context of the game, all the guys are quite horrible and Jeffery is gross when given the most basic sense of confidence, he sees himself as a victim of Nicole but no one asked him to keep searching for her, anyone with self respect would avoid Nicole as the plague but they want her bc she is hot and a girl, he is a victim of his familiar background and bullying yes but Nicole is just the tip of the iceberg and yet he makes her into the breaking point in a way (ignoring the routes where she makes him go literally ballistic), I mean even in this ending she is brought to the scenario not by choice but by him and the principal, what did they expect from literally fucking Nicole who hates everyone and herself, no way she was gonna say oh I love high-school and this random anime obsessed boy

  • @amandahugenkiss2310
    @amandahugenkiss2310Ай бұрын

    What I like about this is that both of them are in the wrong. . Both of their suffering is valid, but instead of having the empathy to understand the others problems, they dismiss them. If they just stopped and thought about what the other has to go through, this could have been the beginning of a friendship rather than a pissing contest as to who has it worse. It shows what happens when you only think of your own problems and don’t empathize what others may be feeling

  • @CaptainUndead
    @CaptainUndead24 күн бұрын

    There is no way that these two could be friends the way they are at this point. Look at that SA - loneliness pissing contest in that other thread down there, it's the same thing. Only in another world where they weren't both blinded by overwhelming trauma could they really understand. Oh and yeah sure Nicole has a good idea of what it's like to be Jeffrey. But at this point she's put up her walls and learned that empathy is vulnerability and weakness, and bitterness and cynicism is the shield that keeps her safe. So it's no longer a choice to try to reach out, so it doesn't matter. Kindness is just the girl hormones talking anyway.

  • @MidnightDrake
    @MidnightDrake20 күн бұрын

    @@CaptainUndead Woah-kay buddy. Didn't need to say that cynicism is the only right thing in this world. The key is a balance of both. Hell, I just got done with freshman and I already know that. I'm a cynical piece of shit, yet I still try to balance that out with the acts that I do on a daily basis.

  • @sylvia-mae-bombkitty
    @sylvia-mae-bombkitty15 күн бұрын

    ​@@MidnightDrakeI don't think they were saying that as what they think, moreso as to what Nicole thinks

  • @agostinhoneto6653
    @agostinhoneto6653Ай бұрын

    Both of them are right in the wrong way, being bullied thru school and being SA'd are both horrible things and even if society tries to downplay it both problems ate valid and need a solution. "Is he really comparing SA to lonelyness?" No, he is saying his situation is worse because he doesnt see Nicole suffering about her situation, because she can cope with it by joking and drugs, jeffrey doesnt go that way. Both of them got valid problems, but they dont give a shit about the other because ppl only look into themselves. Try putting yourself on the other situation suffering from SA or bullying EVERY DAY. Its traumatic.

  • @sandisbitmap4632
    @sandisbitmap4632Ай бұрын

    thanks i really needed this to play in the background while i zone out and relive the memories of a fucked up world i remember as highschool

  • @Ambivalence18
    @Ambivalence18Ай бұрын

    That’s the exact purpose of this video

  • @zippyfish
    @zippyfishАй бұрын

    this wasnt in the game when it first came out. the phone feature wasnt either, the text files were pasted directly on your desktop whenever you got an ending

  • @Ambivalence18
    @Ambivalence18Ай бұрын

    That’s cool!

  • @MoikaSwirl_
    @MoikaSwirl_Ай бұрын

    Never played class of ‘09 but from all the conversations I’ve seen with Nicole this feels like the one conversation she takes seriously

  • @shimsokshim2995
    @shimsokshim2995Ай бұрын

    I'm gonna be honest: I don't know why Nicole thinks her experiences had anything to do with Jeffrey's point. It makes sense that your past and experiences can warp you, but if you are harming innocent who did nothing wrong to you, *you* are the bully, the abuser. And yes, these behaviors may be your projection and ingrained trauma response, but if we said that about the people who abused you and you believe us, would you give your abusers a pass? Do you see now what it is you are, no matter your reasons? And if you guys are curious, I am actually writing this from the perspective of someone who is like Nicole. I am not a sociopath, but I have given my shitty behaviors excuses all the time, and doing that only meant I left a trail like the people who first hurt me did. Just as I am not sympathizing with myself over this, I am not sympathizing with Nicole either. The only 'pass' I can give her is that she is 17 and has not figured things out yet, but by the time she is in her 20's, that does not work anymore.

  • @juliagoetia
    @juliagoetiaАй бұрын

    You're a man honey, of course you don't understand. You talk like this is a vacuum sealed scenario and it's not. If playing the game doesn't get the point across, I don't know what will.

  • @autobotfan11
    @autobotfan11Ай бұрын

    ​@@juliagoetia😂😂 Being a woman doesn't justified you being morally bankrupt and bully.

  • @konpeitojellie
    @konpeitojellie22 күн бұрын

    Nicole doesn’t see them as innocent though. They actively try to butt their way into her life, and the way she sees it they only want her for her body bc I mean it’s not like she’s had any other experiences

  • @shimsokshim2995
    @shimsokshim299521 күн бұрын

    @@konpeitojellie I addressed her projection in my post. That does not make her actions right.

  • @konpeitojellie
    @konpeitojellie21 күн бұрын

    @@shimsokshim2995 who said it makes her actions right? pretty sure the whole game goes “yeah she’s messed up”

  • @kyrarose4517
    @kyrarose4517Ай бұрын

    "How would you let some crazy guy get your number like that in the first place?" Hearing this asked hurt. The auto-response most the time really is just "Oh, you're being harassed? It's your fault for being vulnerable" Excuse me??

  • @imthebossmermaid3648
    @imthebossmermaid36482 күн бұрын

    It’s giving “what were you wearing?”

  • @Ashireenu
    @AshireenuАй бұрын

    She’s got a point lmao

  • @tealisbored
    @tealisboredАй бұрын

    An someone explain it to me

  • @SoapiiBFDI
    @SoapiiBFDI29 күн бұрын

    I made a comment about this i might not be right but i think this kinda explains it?

  • @tealisbored
    @tealisbored28 күн бұрын

    @@SoapiiBFDI thank u fellow bfdi fan

  • @SoapiiBFDI
    @SoapiiBFDI28 күн бұрын

    @@tealisbored you’re welcome! ^_^

  • @InfiniteDimensions-gy7gv
    @InfiniteDimensions-gy7gvАй бұрын

    They both suck and both their lives suck. Like putting a mirror up to a mirror.