I watch a ton of these videos and it's normally hours of "huh?" or "I already knew that" to get one little nugget of helpful info. But your video has helped me understand the process more than all of them combined. Thanks so much for sharing. ❤ Subbed!
@CaseyCangelosi3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the thorough walk-through!
@67DREADS3 күн бұрын
Lil mans is a beast!
@Wardog01Actual3 күн бұрын
I have a question regarding time-stretch: I always thought Reason had a very good algorithm for this task. But what do YOU (or anyone reading this) recommend as the superior time-stretching program (or programs)? TYIA and happy music-making.
@NothingLeftToDoButWin3 күн бұрын
One thing I will say is that the new “F9” browser should at-least be able to drag to a 2nd screen. It’s huge and in the way of the instruments. I would love an option to revert to the classic browser. Kind of getting use to it now tho lol. Yielding. Respectfully.
@NothingLeftToDoButWin3 күн бұрын
Looking forward to hearing this video. I’m returning after a 10 year hiatus, halting at Reason 5. Been back at it since February, just in time for reason 13!
@KickbackCouture2 күн бұрын
That’s a good amount of time to wait for an update. Great choice and good timing.
@micromando46694 күн бұрын
Bitwig is Reason on steroids, look out for polarity music‘s channel
@LossLeadas4 күн бұрын
Every daw has pros and cons..and people complain about each on of them
@capturethephotons20784 күн бұрын
Moises works on mobile
@bloodswarms4 күн бұрын
I use Reason 12 as a VST in Cubase daily. Haven't opened the DAW version in a long, long time. Reason 13 doesn't interest me at all, because the new DAW changes don't matter to me, the utilities don't matter to me, and the two new devices aren't enough to justify a $199 upgrade price tag. Extremely bad value proposition. When I think of all the things they could have done in the 3 years since Reason 12 dropped and didn't, it makes me head hurt. If they did a mid-cycle update and added a couple more cool devices and gave a voucher for a free RE or something, I'd be pushed over the line to buy Reason 13. I don't see them doing that, though. If they updated Recycle to modernize it (to compete with Serato Sample in every way, Stem Separation, gave it a dark theme) and added it to Reason as a device, and it could edit and print stems to Cubase from the Rack plugin, I would buy a Reason upgrade for sure. I'll probably buy Objekt this fall, so they'll get at least some money from me this year. But I feel like they're running out of ideas and aren't very motivated to achieve greatness anymore.
@sdotlaw755 күн бұрын
Everything they upgraded was useful but should have been free update. To come out with a new version with these small upgrades was not a flex for reason. Development should focus on some sort of hardware device that compliments the software. That would change the game and put them in an arena to compete again. I have mpc and maschine and they are both easier and more fun to work with . Imagine pulling up reason synths mixer and devices on a dedicated device 😮.
@jsmacks116 күн бұрын
Reason's updates always tend to feel small compared to other DAWs. Browser is a nice new feature but it feels like baby steps. Compared to Ableton which have bigger minor releases than Reason's major releases. It feels like they cant keep up with updates fast enough.
@BaddBadger6 күн бұрын
I've been trying a variety of DAWs since the 90's, but me and many people i know have been hardcore Reason users and advocates since versions 10 or 11. But the move to R13 has made me scurry back to Ableton and FL Studio with my tail between my legs. . Firstly, while the new synth might be great, between what Reason already has, and my ever growing collection of third party plug-ins, another synth is not what i need. If anything, i need to loose a few! So between that one synth, and the couple of new utilities, calling this a whole version upgrade is a bit much from my point of view. Yes, i was looking forward to trying a different delay and ducking device, but that's hardly worth the price alone, is it? . Because there's that pricing. For anyone new to Reason, whose grown up in this age of endless subscriptions, £20 a month for the full, better, constantly updated version with far more devices and all of the perks is just a no-brainer. Go for it, i probably would if i was you now. But some of us paid huge sums back when ownership meant something (between my initial purchase, the upgrades since, and random extras from the online store i must have spent at least £800 on Reason so far). And we did so because the standard at the time was that we would then pay a much lesser amount to stay up to date with every new version. But Reason are doing their best to kill off that old model, with nothing but a callous attitude to those of us who put them where they are now. . I was a bit late with the upgrade to 12, so i had nobody to blame but myself when it cost me a little more. But trying to upgrade to version 13 on the first day of sale i was asked for £200!! It's no coincidence that this is also the same price as paying for a years subscription up front, where you get two months for free, and many more instruments and effects. Reason know exactly what they did there, and many long term users that have learned all the shortcuts and have their life's work in Reason format now feel like they are over a barrel (with their pants down). . Not only that, but because of a sudden rush of work, one friend of mine tried to upgrade to version 12 just two weeks before 13 went on sale, and they still tried to charge her £500. Remember, this is someone who's already paid £500, and is now being asked for that amount again for the ''not as good as the £20 a month'' version, just 2 weeks before 12 became old!! So she felt like she had no choice but to bite the bullet, pay for the subscription, forget about older payments / ownership / being treated with respect, and just got on with her work trying to ignore the bitter taste in her mouth. . When i contacted Reasons help i suddenly realised just how often i've had to do that as a Reason user. I don't recall ever having to contact the makers of any other DAW about a problem, not once. And when i have contacted Reasons help it's only about 50% of the time that they actually have helped, or even been able to. At least twice i feel i've just been met with snarky comments. On this occasion i was just told to try the subscription, or check back through the year for sales. . For those that can't understand my anger at the new business model , imagine you are buying something else, like a car. Imagine you've agreed a price and paid, but on your way out you notice the next customer get offered a far nicer version of the same car that you just bought, but they are only asked a tiny fraction of what you paid. Wouldn't you feel disrespected? . To put this all into perspective, at roughly the same time as all this was going on (or maybe just a few weeks before) i did contact Ableton about possibly buying an older version for an older i-Mac i had sitting around. And Ableton just flat out said ''have one on us'' and GAVE me £350 worth of software for free. Also at the same time, FL have been giving out free updates for quarter of a century. Yes, they have just added a subscription for some extras as well. But that cost me £35 for a year (not a month, a year) to try some features that, putting it bluntly, p*** all over Reason 13. . Apart from music, i am also interested in consumer rights, and privacy and security in tech. And there's aspects to Reason 13 that give me pause for thought on all counts. And any company that can change it's terms and conditions long AFTER sale (as Reason did recently with an older version) needs to be avoided anyway. I'm not even sure that's legal. And if you are sat there laughing at all this and thinking that you made the right choice with your subscription, are you 100% certain that a company that acts like this now won't find a way to dick you over eventually? . Suffice to say, i'm one of those people that have moved on from Reason. And for anyone thinking of getting their first DAW, i would say to try Waveform or Reaper first. If you don't get on with either of those then you won't be out of pocket. And if you do like either then you'll never be tied to one operating system again as they work on all platforms. You're welcome. .
@dwayne61276 күн бұрын
For some reason when I go to sequence mine doesn’t look like that. I don’t see the pitch edit bar either. I’m new and kinda lost on this part..
@kjwworldwide6 күн бұрын
Great review. I have not moved on as i'm too into the analog emulation. This upgrade is redundant for me though as i purchased the plugin alliance entire bundle and i don't need any new devices.
@sparkzmentalz27 күн бұрын
From what I'm seeing R13 upgrade is not worth it. The floating browser and new tools look cool but there's no major change worth upgrading for. I'll stick with R12 for now. Still no midi outputs for VST3s or compatibility with Izotope RX. The stock Scale and Chords player is cool but the midi sequencer needs some serious updating so ghost notes or importing scales can be easy like I see in other DAWs.
@maveric_Reason7 күн бұрын
Great video. Cheers 🙂
@MarcosCouncil7 күн бұрын
Sad to say Reason is falling behind.
@hiddenhillsmotorsport7 күн бұрын
This is still relevant in 2024 :). This is timeless
@dornellcarr76117 күн бұрын
Great video. I like the R13 update I do understand a few of the complaints however I can do what I need to do all in Reason and Im happy with the results
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
I understand your perspective! I use for a lot of different scenarios. I don’t think I’d drop it for good. It’ll always be in my toolbox. It’s great software.
@S7V7N_SEAS7 күн бұрын
After Reason 11 became a vst I moved to Ableton. Propellerheads is out of touch and way behind the power curve. I wish they got it together but using a Push 2 is way more fun for a sample based producer. Thanks for sharing
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
I love the Push 2! It’s an extremely seamless process using the Push with Live. A lot of midi controllers are compatible with it. I even tried a Roland Fantom 6 and it had Live support. I absolutely love Reason as a VST, it’s really versatile.
@Tuskegeeflyboi7 күн бұрын
Damn! you doing that!! Learned alot just watching you operate them shortcuts
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad you picked up some tips
@CXtheproducer17 күн бұрын
The need Vst midi effect intregration ASAP
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
Agreed! It’s stopped me from using Reason numerous times. Not just as a producer, but as a content creator. It doesn’t help if I can’t use popular plugins in it. That reason alone forced me into using other software.
@PrimaudiaRecord8 күн бұрын
For me the answer was simple, Reason 12 is missing many things I would like, but it has what I need, far more so than any other daw. I can practically use it blindfold, I dont have to think about how to do something, it's simply innate at this stage. That workflow is absolute Queen and no amount of tech innovation in other daws will make me depart from it. Sadly that includes Reason 13 as well.
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
I’m glad to hear you’re happy with it. I have a really nice workflow in it as well. Actually, second to none. I do require more functionality, so I have to use other DAWs. If I didn’t need to, I wouldn’t.
@mrmaison49248 күн бұрын
I'm still on Reason 11 suite. I got R12 but immediately got a refund because it felt redundant to me for what I was doing. I want to get 13 especially for the effects but the upgrade price is too high. I still love Reason for it's unique fun character from other DAWs and glad I can also bring it into Cubase. RRP was one of the best things they did.
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
I have a feeling Reason 14 will get a record amount of upgrades. If they play it right.
@HOLLASOUNDS8 күн бұрын
Currently I can't open Reason 12 on one of My laptops because its required to log in even though I'm a license owner, I have to log in like a Reason plus user to use the stand alone software and that is annoying.
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
I hope you can get this sorted out. I posted this video for you btw. :)
@HOLLASOUNDS5 күн бұрын
@@KickbackCouture I can fix it however it's annoying having to log in to use licence software, when that was one of the main reasons for not getting plus. I dont want to ever be asked to log in.
@309fliteschool8 күн бұрын
Im still a fan of Reason. It seems like from DAW to DAW I get a subtle style change in my production. As for Reason and Studio 1 my style is more hip hop/pop while the MPC and its software brings a totally different bounce for me. 🤷🏾♂️ But dope vid as usual J. 💯
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! What do you think of the MPC software? I’m trying it out this week.
@BaddBadger6 күн бұрын
The MPC software is like a hidden gem that not enough people know about. I should use that more than i do.
@7vensoundz8518 күн бұрын
Ill be honest, you were my first youtuber when it came to understanding how to use Reason. I know you wait a bit before giving your review on Reason to let everything sink in, but i was surprised you reviewed it this time lol. I just started back up in studio one and their fans are mad at them too. Ill upgrade when the holiday sale matches the price. Salute.
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
It’s impossible to make everyone happy. I wasnt going to cover this originally, but I got a lot of comments on older and irrelevant videos asking about Reason. It’ll be a very difficult pivot for me. Thank you for all of your support over the years.
@7vensoundz8513 күн бұрын
@@KickbackCouture Absolutely.
@d.o.nmuzic38028 күн бұрын
The new browser , sidechain tool and clip edit window with features is what I needed. I came back to Reason. All ten toes down in it now 💯
@pmoney87018 күн бұрын
I enjoy Reason and would hate to leave but I can’t help to wonder if I’d be more satisfied with an alternative.
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
Reason is amazing software for music production. I’d only suggest something else if you were looking for something it doesn’t have.
@BaddBadger6 күн бұрын
No harm in experimenting. There's plenty of good alternatives these days. And IMO most of them have a better pricing model.
@timfuredi10008 күн бұрын
Nice sweater and watch 🔥🔥
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@ucheattoh8 күн бұрын
moved on. There has to be somebody or a bunch of people at reason holding this daw back. its pointless raising points on what should be basic features but missing in reason. even as a plugin, the annoying pop up loading window when you open reason as a plugin for the first time is very unnecessary...anyway....great video
@BaddBadger6 күн бұрын
Yeah, it feels to me like maybe one department isn't communicating with another very well. Like, they are given their orders, and each department gets on with their own stuff, with no care about the other factors, if that makes sense. Just a feeling though, i don't really have anything to back that up.
@micromando46694 күн бұрын
I think Ludwig is one of the problems
@GRACFUL18 күн бұрын
FL GANG, 4 Life
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
💯
@Wilkins778 күн бұрын
100% agree with your thoughts. There's a complete lack of support for classic devices, but they keep re-introducing new functionality with an upgrade price. It comes off as lazy and dishonest on Reason Studios part. I really like Ridley though.
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
It fills a bit empty as a fill upgrade, hopefully we can push for some free point updates that make it worthwhile.
@JerMarMusicGroup9 күн бұрын
Nice video explanation. I’ve been using Reason since ‘03. They came a long way from there. I would love to see them focus more on their mixer and audio editing. We all see it’s a “SSL” style eq. Let’s add a bit analog saturation or warmth in the mixer. I like Audiomatic but another tape reel option is needed with Reason. I would definitely pay for an upgrade if they focused on the sonics of the DAW. It’s not bad now, but we are at version 13! We need to get there. I want to do one stop shop but I guess I have to go to another DAW to do more in-depth audio editing.
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
Adding to the mixer would be amazing. If they read this comment, maybe they can introduce the ability to swap mixer emulations. They could add more modern versions as well. That way we could control sonicality. Effects chains are extremely popular.
@JerMarMusicGroup7 күн бұрын
@@KickbackCouture Especially affect chains from well known producers that use Reason. Imagine choosing settings by Ian Kilpatrick, Skrillex, Dr. Dre, DJ Mustard, deadmau5, etc., for startup mix templates. I do hope they see this comment. I really feel if they focus more on the sonics, mixing and mastering. The other DAWs will probably get jealous. Lol! We all know that Reason is doing numbers with these synths! They have that in the bag. Now let’s take that same focus of the character and sonics of the synths to the mixer. Let’s get some dope preamps going at the gain. API, NEVE, and SSL SuperAnalog-like styled preamps. Color is definitely needed.
@robbarnett6849 күн бұрын
Polytone morph is not like DJ cross fade, it morphs the settings of layer A to those of Layer B
@309fliteschool8 күн бұрын
🍅=Tomato
@davidmorgan41479 күн бұрын
For 13.1 give us midi note chase AND ... ta-DAH --- Rebirth as an instrument. Oh. Rebirth. What fun.
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
The Rebirth Revival!! 👏🏾
@Thedrumsthebass9 күн бұрын
I was about to upgrade but that 50 dollar coupon off 200 for Native Instruments summer sale took that .. 150 for Komplete is too good to pass up. Played with the beta.. wasn't that impressed
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
I don’t blame you. Native Instrument products are extremely enticing and always 200% usable.
@leggocrewtv20529 күн бұрын
literally went to MPC beats last week.. subscriptions killed it for me plus midi gear issues everytime
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
Yooo! That’s dope! I just requested to try it out with the MPC controller. What do you think so far?
@leggocrewtv20526 күн бұрын
@@KickbackCouture its tight! I borrowed a mpc 2000 yeaaars ago. Vsts can be loaded and the base tool is straight forward, already making mixes and tweaking that first loop. Run and gun and great for ideas!! Came with my mpd controller too. Set and ready!
@rocc_solid_beats9 күн бұрын
Now using Ableton, but still using the rack plugin. The only thing I miss from Reason is the mixer and quality.
@BK-iw1zm8 күн бұрын
Same here. I will just continue using Reason 12 as a plugin with Ableton for now. I can adjust the rack size nice and big to fill up a vertical monitor without the rest of the DAW looking like Godzilla size on the other screens!
@7vensoundz8518 күн бұрын
Im still trying to master operating the Mixer to make sure I get a loud solid sound after export. Its been challenging.
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
In Live, I like using the glue compressor on the master bus. Turn on soft clipping and boost the makeup gain until it’s a good volume. Same process for Reason but with the MClass maximizer.
@KickbackCouture7 күн бұрын
I love Ableton Live!
@brickbreezy9 күн бұрын
I moved on i hate to say it but i feel the developers are just out of touch with what modern music creators need, and want…the days of being excited about flipping and using a virtual rack are long gone… i have grown to work on larger projects and more professional projects that are more demanding and have deadlines and Reason just can’t keep up with my workflow sadly the lack of key commands macros and modern audio editing. Features is annoying just too many steps to do simple modern task.
@jarueparr9 күн бұрын
Major let down once again.... SIGH!
@LifeIsRythm9 күн бұрын
Thank you very much. I moved on. Don't hear anything to make me move back. More candy from the pimp! They don't seem to go all the way! The rack was their best idea! Stile can't use vst multi's! The internet verification on all but one setup! I got in my way. The plug ins are the way for me. Bitwig, live and komplete blow it away. They free me from reason and Mac. Which can takes all your work away, when it crashes! Thank you Dear!
@fadatiko9 күн бұрын
I'm not going to lie. These Reason guys frustrate me. The only feature that I have asked for since reason 9 or 10 is the midi out feature so I can use creative plugins you mentioned. I can't believe it was not included in the release. It is ridiculous. It almost feels like they try and pacify us with another synth we don't need every major release. Annoying!
@KickbackCouture9 күн бұрын
Haha they’re definitely catering to the synth heads then. The rack is building out nicely. Adding DAW functionality doesn’t seem to be a focus even though it’s been rearranged.
@aikighost4 күн бұрын
Yeah this is especially annoying when you consider they don’t give you the new and interesting synths like Objekt in the reason updates and hide them behind the reason+ subscription paywall.
@RomeAround9 күн бұрын
I like it! I upgraded when it came out. The browser is what I needed. Made things faster for me.
@KickbackCouture9 күн бұрын
That’s good to hear!
@hakeemadam9559 күн бұрын
Started following you when Reason 12 dropped. Stopped using reason after about a year. Despite the great instruments like Friction and Object, the whole subscription business is not worth it for me.
@KickbackCouture9 күн бұрын
Thanks for the support! What software are you using now? Is the subscription the only Reason you stopped?
@hakeemadam9559 күн бұрын
@@KickbackCouture I used Ableton as a daw but UVI Falcon has replaced Reason for me. If I could have could just buy Objekt or Friction, I would be very happy.
@minihilly9 күн бұрын
Same for me, I switched to Cubase as it cost me LESS to migrate to Cubase 13 Pro as a brand new user, than it would cost to upgrade to Reason 13. Reason's pricing model is awful, especially when Reason 13 is this disappointing (imo)
@callmenepo9 күн бұрын
Don't different this v13
@callmenepo9 күн бұрын
I use rack like plugin inside reaper ❤
@KickbackCouture9 күн бұрын
The rack is definitely a great option.
@duartecancela8 күн бұрын
Me too. I emulate the SSL Reason channel in Reaper track I also use the mastering section in Reaper master track. Reason instruments sounds good they have some magic...
@callmenepo8 күн бұрын
@duartecancela that's crazy instruments. But I don't find refil or extensions for trap or hiphop genre
@WyattLite-n-inn9 күн бұрын
FL Studio 24 just trounced Reason 13 … Along with FL Cloud … Still got love for reason though but I can’t use everything..
@KickbackCouture9 күн бұрын
Ableton 12 did as well. Updates from other software companies usually tower in comparison.
@creame.mp49 күн бұрын
They should improve mixing vocals, especially alligning. I still must use ReVoice or Melodyne, this sucks :/. Anyway, great video as always.
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I watch a ton of these videos and it's normally hours of "huh?" or "I already knew that" to get one little nugget of helpful info. But your video has helped me understand the process more than all of them combined. Thanks so much for sharing. ❤ Subbed!
Thanks for the thorough walk-through!
Lil mans is a beast!
I have a question regarding time-stretch: I always thought Reason had a very good algorithm for this task. But what do YOU (or anyone reading this) recommend as the superior time-stretching program (or programs)? TYIA and happy music-making.
One thing I will say is that the new “F9” browser should at-least be able to drag to a 2nd screen. It’s huge and in the way of the instruments. I would love an option to revert to the classic browser. Kind of getting use to it now tho lol. Yielding. Respectfully.
Looking forward to hearing this video. I’m returning after a 10 year hiatus, halting at Reason 5. Been back at it since February, just in time for reason 13!
That’s a good amount of time to wait for an update. Great choice and good timing.
Bitwig is Reason on steroids, look out for polarity music‘s channel
Every daw has pros and cons..and people complain about each on of them
Moises works on mobile
I use Reason 12 as a VST in Cubase daily. Haven't opened the DAW version in a long, long time. Reason 13 doesn't interest me at all, because the new DAW changes don't matter to me, the utilities don't matter to me, and the two new devices aren't enough to justify a $199 upgrade price tag. Extremely bad value proposition. When I think of all the things they could have done in the 3 years since Reason 12 dropped and didn't, it makes me head hurt. If they did a mid-cycle update and added a couple more cool devices and gave a voucher for a free RE or something, I'd be pushed over the line to buy Reason 13. I don't see them doing that, though. If they updated Recycle to modernize it (to compete with Serato Sample in every way, Stem Separation, gave it a dark theme) and added it to Reason as a device, and it could edit and print stems to Cubase from the Rack plugin, I would buy a Reason upgrade for sure. I'll probably buy Objekt this fall, so they'll get at least some money from me this year. But I feel like they're running out of ideas and aren't very motivated to achieve greatness anymore.
Everything they upgraded was useful but should have been free update. To come out with a new version with these small upgrades was not a flex for reason. Development should focus on some sort of hardware device that compliments the software. That would change the game and put them in an arena to compete again. I have mpc and maschine and they are both easier and more fun to work with . Imagine pulling up reason synths mixer and devices on a dedicated device 😮.
Reason's updates always tend to feel small compared to other DAWs. Browser is a nice new feature but it feels like baby steps. Compared to Ableton which have bigger minor releases than Reason's major releases. It feels like they cant keep up with updates fast enough.
I've been trying a variety of DAWs since the 90's, but me and many people i know have been hardcore Reason users and advocates since versions 10 or 11. But the move to R13 has made me scurry back to Ableton and FL Studio with my tail between my legs. . Firstly, while the new synth might be great, between what Reason already has, and my ever growing collection of third party plug-ins, another synth is not what i need. If anything, i need to loose a few! So between that one synth, and the couple of new utilities, calling this a whole version upgrade is a bit much from my point of view. Yes, i was looking forward to trying a different delay and ducking device, but that's hardly worth the price alone, is it? . Because there's that pricing. For anyone new to Reason, whose grown up in this age of endless subscriptions, £20 a month for the full, better, constantly updated version with far more devices and all of the perks is just a no-brainer. Go for it, i probably would if i was you now. But some of us paid huge sums back when ownership meant something (between my initial purchase, the upgrades since, and random extras from the online store i must have spent at least £800 on Reason so far). And we did so because the standard at the time was that we would then pay a much lesser amount to stay up to date with every new version. But Reason are doing their best to kill off that old model, with nothing but a callous attitude to those of us who put them where they are now. . I was a bit late with the upgrade to 12, so i had nobody to blame but myself when it cost me a little more. But trying to upgrade to version 13 on the first day of sale i was asked for £200!! It's no coincidence that this is also the same price as paying for a years subscription up front, where you get two months for free, and many more instruments and effects. Reason know exactly what they did there, and many long term users that have learned all the shortcuts and have their life's work in Reason format now feel like they are over a barrel (with their pants down). . Not only that, but because of a sudden rush of work, one friend of mine tried to upgrade to version 12 just two weeks before 13 went on sale, and they still tried to charge her £500. Remember, this is someone who's already paid £500, and is now being asked for that amount again for the ''not as good as the £20 a month'' version, just 2 weeks before 12 became old!! So she felt like she had no choice but to bite the bullet, pay for the subscription, forget about older payments / ownership / being treated with respect, and just got on with her work trying to ignore the bitter taste in her mouth. . When i contacted Reasons help i suddenly realised just how often i've had to do that as a Reason user. I don't recall ever having to contact the makers of any other DAW about a problem, not once. And when i have contacted Reasons help it's only about 50% of the time that they actually have helped, or even been able to. At least twice i feel i've just been met with snarky comments. On this occasion i was just told to try the subscription, or check back through the year for sales. . For those that can't understand my anger at the new business model , imagine you are buying something else, like a car. Imagine you've agreed a price and paid, but on your way out you notice the next customer get offered a far nicer version of the same car that you just bought, but they are only asked a tiny fraction of what you paid. Wouldn't you feel disrespected? . To put this all into perspective, at roughly the same time as all this was going on (or maybe just a few weeks before) i did contact Ableton about possibly buying an older version for an older i-Mac i had sitting around. And Ableton just flat out said ''have one on us'' and GAVE me £350 worth of software for free. Also at the same time, FL have been giving out free updates for quarter of a century. Yes, they have just added a subscription for some extras as well. But that cost me £35 for a year (not a month, a year) to try some features that, putting it bluntly, p*** all over Reason 13. . Apart from music, i am also interested in consumer rights, and privacy and security in tech. And there's aspects to Reason 13 that give me pause for thought on all counts. And any company that can change it's terms and conditions long AFTER sale (as Reason did recently with an older version) needs to be avoided anyway. I'm not even sure that's legal. And if you are sat there laughing at all this and thinking that you made the right choice with your subscription, are you 100% certain that a company that acts like this now won't find a way to dick you over eventually? . Suffice to say, i'm one of those people that have moved on from Reason. And for anyone thinking of getting their first DAW, i would say to try Waveform or Reaper first. If you don't get on with either of those then you won't be out of pocket. And if you do like either then you'll never be tied to one operating system again as they work on all platforms. You're welcome. .
For some reason when I go to sequence mine doesn’t look like that. I don’t see the pitch edit bar either. I’m new and kinda lost on this part..
Great review. I have not moved on as i'm too into the analog emulation. This upgrade is redundant for me though as i purchased the plugin alliance entire bundle and i don't need any new devices.
From what I'm seeing R13 upgrade is not worth it. The floating browser and new tools look cool but there's no major change worth upgrading for. I'll stick with R12 for now. Still no midi outputs for VST3s or compatibility with Izotope RX. The stock Scale and Chords player is cool but the midi sequencer needs some serious updating so ghost notes or importing scales can be easy like I see in other DAWs.
Great video. Cheers 🙂
Sad to say Reason is falling behind.
This is still relevant in 2024 :). This is timeless
Great video. I like the R13 update I do understand a few of the complaints however I can do what I need to do all in Reason and Im happy with the results
I understand your perspective! I use for a lot of different scenarios. I don’t think I’d drop it for good. It’ll always be in my toolbox. It’s great software.
After Reason 11 became a vst I moved to Ableton. Propellerheads is out of touch and way behind the power curve. I wish they got it together but using a Push 2 is way more fun for a sample based producer. Thanks for sharing
I love the Push 2! It’s an extremely seamless process using the Push with Live. A lot of midi controllers are compatible with it. I even tried a Roland Fantom 6 and it had Live support. I absolutely love Reason as a VST, it’s really versatile.
Damn! you doing that!! Learned alot just watching you operate them shortcuts
Thank you! I’m glad you picked up some tips
The need Vst midi effect intregration ASAP
Agreed! It’s stopped me from using Reason numerous times. Not just as a producer, but as a content creator. It doesn’t help if I can’t use popular plugins in it. That reason alone forced me into using other software.
For me the answer was simple, Reason 12 is missing many things I would like, but it has what I need, far more so than any other daw. I can practically use it blindfold, I dont have to think about how to do something, it's simply innate at this stage. That workflow is absolute Queen and no amount of tech innovation in other daws will make me depart from it. Sadly that includes Reason 13 as well.
I’m glad to hear you’re happy with it. I have a really nice workflow in it as well. Actually, second to none. I do require more functionality, so I have to use other DAWs. If I didn’t need to, I wouldn’t.
I'm still on Reason 11 suite. I got R12 but immediately got a refund because it felt redundant to me for what I was doing. I want to get 13 especially for the effects but the upgrade price is too high. I still love Reason for it's unique fun character from other DAWs and glad I can also bring it into Cubase. RRP was one of the best things they did.
I have a feeling Reason 14 will get a record amount of upgrades. If they play it right.
Currently I can't open Reason 12 on one of My laptops because its required to log in even though I'm a license owner, I have to log in like a Reason plus user to use the stand alone software and that is annoying.
I hope you can get this sorted out. I posted this video for you btw. :)
@@KickbackCouture I can fix it however it's annoying having to log in to use licence software, when that was one of the main reasons for not getting plus. I dont want to ever be asked to log in.
Im still a fan of Reason. It seems like from DAW to DAW I get a subtle style change in my production. As for Reason and Studio 1 my style is more hip hop/pop while the MPC and its software brings a totally different bounce for me. 🤷🏾♂️ But dope vid as usual J. 💯
Thanks for watching! What do you think of the MPC software? I’m trying it out this week.
The MPC software is like a hidden gem that not enough people know about. I should use that more than i do.
Ill be honest, you were my first youtuber when it came to understanding how to use Reason. I know you wait a bit before giving your review on Reason to let everything sink in, but i was surprised you reviewed it this time lol. I just started back up in studio one and their fans are mad at them too. Ill upgrade when the holiday sale matches the price. Salute.
It’s impossible to make everyone happy. I wasnt going to cover this originally, but I got a lot of comments on older and irrelevant videos asking about Reason. It’ll be a very difficult pivot for me. Thank you for all of your support over the years.
@@KickbackCouture Absolutely.
The new browser , sidechain tool and clip edit window with features is what I needed. I came back to Reason. All ten toes down in it now 💯
I enjoy Reason and would hate to leave but I can’t help to wonder if I’d be more satisfied with an alternative.
Reason is amazing software for music production. I’d only suggest something else if you were looking for something it doesn’t have.
No harm in experimenting. There's plenty of good alternatives these days. And IMO most of them have a better pricing model.
Nice sweater and watch 🔥🔥
Thanks!
moved on. There has to be somebody or a bunch of people at reason holding this daw back. its pointless raising points on what should be basic features but missing in reason. even as a plugin, the annoying pop up loading window when you open reason as a plugin for the first time is very unnecessary...anyway....great video
Yeah, it feels to me like maybe one department isn't communicating with another very well. Like, they are given their orders, and each department gets on with their own stuff, with no care about the other factors, if that makes sense. Just a feeling though, i don't really have anything to back that up.
I think Ludwig is one of the problems
FL GANG, 4 Life
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100% agree with your thoughts. There's a complete lack of support for classic devices, but they keep re-introducing new functionality with an upgrade price. It comes off as lazy and dishonest on Reason Studios part. I really like Ridley though.
It fills a bit empty as a fill upgrade, hopefully we can push for some free point updates that make it worthwhile.
Nice video explanation. I’ve been using Reason since ‘03. They came a long way from there. I would love to see them focus more on their mixer and audio editing. We all see it’s a “SSL” style eq. Let’s add a bit analog saturation or warmth in the mixer. I like Audiomatic but another tape reel option is needed with Reason. I would definitely pay for an upgrade if they focused on the sonics of the DAW. It’s not bad now, but we are at version 13! We need to get there. I want to do one stop shop but I guess I have to go to another DAW to do more in-depth audio editing.
Adding to the mixer would be amazing. If they read this comment, maybe they can introduce the ability to swap mixer emulations. They could add more modern versions as well. That way we could control sonicality. Effects chains are extremely popular.
@@KickbackCouture Especially affect chains from well known producers that use Reason. Imagine choosing settings by Ian Kilpatrick, Skrillex, Dr. Dre, DJ Mustard, deadmau5, etc., for startup mix templates. I do hope they see this comment. I really feel if they focus more on the sonics, mixing and mastering. The other DAWs will probably get jealous. Lol! We all know that Reason is doing numbers with these synths! They have that in the bag. Now let’s take that same focus of the character and sonics of the synths to the mixer. Let’s get some dope preamps going at the gain. API, NEVE, and SSL SuperAnalog-like styled preamps. Color is definitely needed.
Polytone morph is not like DJ cross fade, it morphs the settings of layer A to those of Layer B
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For 13.1 give us midi note chase AND ... ta-DAH --- Rebirth as an instrument. Oh. Rebirth. What fun.
The Rebirth Revival!! 👏🏾
I was about to upgrade but that 50 dollar coupon off 200 for Native Instruments summer sale took that .. 150 for Komplete is too good to pass up. Played with the beta.. wasn't that impressed
I don’t blame you. Native Instrument products are extremely enticing and always 200% usable.
literally went to MPC beats last week.. subscriptions killed it for me plus midi gear issues everytime
Yooo! That’s dope! I just requested to try it out with the MPC controller. What do you think so far?
@@KickbackCouture its tight! I borrowed a mpc 2000 yeaaars ago. Vsts can be loaded and the base tool is straight forward, already making mixes and tweaking that first loop. Run and gun and great for ideas!! Came with my mpd controller too. Set and ready!
Now using Ableton, but still using the rack plugin. The only thing I miss from Reason is the mixer and quality.
Same here. I will just continue using Reason 12 as a plugin with Ableton for now. I can adjust the rack size nice and big to fill up a vertical monitor without the rest of the DAW looking like Godzilla size on the other screens!
Im still trying to master operating the Mixer to make sure I get a loud solid sound after export. Its been challenging.
In Live, I like using the glue compressor on the master bus. Turn on soft clipping and boost the makeup gain until it’s a good volume. Same process for Reason but with the MClass maximizer.
I love Ableton Live!
I moved on i hate to say it but i feel the developers are just out of touch with what modern music creators need, and want…the days of being excited about flipping and using a virtual rack are long gone… i have grown to work on larger projects and more professional projects that are more demanding and have deadlines and Reason just can’t keep up with my workflow sadly the lack of key commands macros and modern audio editing. Features is annoying just too many steps to do simple modern task.
Major let down once again.... SIGH!
Thank you very much. I moved on. Don't hear anything to make me move back. More candy from the pimp! They don't seem to go all the way! The rack was their best idea! Stile can't use vst multi's! The internet verification on all but one setup! I got in my way. The plug ins are the way for me. Bitwig, live and komplete blow it away. They free me from reason and Mac. Which can takes all your work away, when it crashes! Thank you Dear!
I'm not going to lie. These Reason guys frustrate me. The only feature that I have asked for since reason 9 or 10 is the midi out feature so I can use creative plugins you mentioned. I can't believe it was not included in the release. It is ridiculous. It almost feels like they try and pacify us with another synth we don't need every major release. Annoying!
Haha they’re definitely catering to the synth heads then. The rack is building out nicely. Adding DAW functionality doesn’t seem to be a focus even though it’s been rearranged.
Yeah this is especially annoying when you consider they don’t give you the new and interesting synths like Objekt in the reason updates and hide them behind the reason+ subscription paywall.
I like it! I upgraded when it came out. The browser is what I needed. Made things faster for me.
That’s good to hear!
Started following you when Reason 12 dropped. Stopped using reason after about a year. Despite the great instruments like Friction and Object, the whole subscription business is not worth it for me.
Thanks for the support! What software are you using now? Is the subscription the only Reason you stopped?
@@KickbackCouture I used Ableton as a daw but UVI Falcon has replaced Reason for me. If I could have could just buy Objekt or Friction, I would be very happy.
Same for me, I switched to Cubase as it cost me LESS to migrate to Cubase 13 Pro as a brand new user, than it would cost to upgrade to Reason 13. Reason's pricing model is awful, especially when Reason 13 is this disappointing (imo)
Don't different this v13
I use rack like plugin inside reaper ❤
The rack is definitely a great option.
Me too. I emulate the SSL Reason channel in Reaper track I also use the mastering section in Reaper master track. Reason instruments sounds good they have some magic...
@duartecancela that's crazy instruments. But I don't find refil or extensions for trap or hiphop genre
FL Studio 24 just trounced Reason 13 … Along with FL Cloud … Still got love for reason though but I can’t use everything..
Ableton 12 did as well. Updates from other software companies usually tower in comparison.
They should improve mixing vocals, especially alligning. I still must use ReVoice or Melodyne, this sucks :/. Anyway, great video as always.
More vocal editing features would be nice!