Actually in terms of accuracy potential bout of this sight when I first sighted it in on my 12 gauge slug gun at 65 yards with an ammo my gun loves I printed a one hole group. A round hole with mouse ears for the other two shots. I was later able to make a softball sized 4 shot group at 115 yards with the same 12 gauge shotgun. Keep in mind your results may vary as I have a rifle accurate shotgun that I will never part with.
@paulmo-we1mw Жыл бұрын
Hi behindthetrigger, Love your content, quick question.. On you Sako finnlight stock, have you noticed the soft touch on your stock getting sticky at all? I'm interested in the sako finnlight but worried about what I'm reading online about the finnlight stocks getting sticky over time... Thanks for your time, hope to hear from you soon!
@PracticalTacticalAccuracy Жыл бұрын
Good question Paul. I do not know because I no longer have it, but I did recently pick up a shotgun with a rubber over mold that I have the same concern. It's brand new so its fine now, but time will tell. I also have a Zoom H4 sound recorder that suffers from the exact problem. I cleaned off the oily substance with acetone and that seems to have helped at least temporarily. My preference is old fashioned plastic for the reason you pointed out.
@paulmo-we1mw Жыл бұрын
Hi Sir, Thank you for the quick and informative response. I subbed to both your channels. Love your content, keep up the good work Sir.
@PracticalTacticalAccuracy Жыл бұрын
@@paulmo-we1mw Thanks Paul, but it appears my content has been "too good" as I have been demonetized. It began with simple shadow banning and that reduced my viewership to the point where my low view count was reason for demonetization. I made more money with 5 videos before trump got elected than on 50 videos after he got elected. Trumps election highlighted the role social media plays in influencing the hearts and minds so the liberals went to work to silence conservative voices on the internet. I may still put out videos on occasion as an act of defiance but there is no chance I will get paid a dime for the effort.
@donjulio5045 Жыл бұрын
Ugliest stock I've ever seen...
@michaelrobinson85212 жыл бұрын
Beautiful rifle,what model leupold is that and what height are the rings you used they look like mediums.
@marynollaig41242 жыл бұрын
These and the Tikka love Sako ammo.
@dangerousfreedom49653 жыл бұрын
Weight?
@johnconnor46623 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should use it before you start critiquing it?
@F15ElectricEagle3 жыл бұрын
Too much of a hassle to apply. After bedding about 60 rifles using different epoxies (JB Weld Original , Accra Glass, Devcon 10110, Pro-Bed 2000 and Marine Tex), I found the most easy to apply and effective release agent is two coats of Hornady One Shot Case Lube.
@PracticalTacticalAccuracy3 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting suggestion. I have a Rem 700 on the bench that I'm planning to bed soon. I think I'll give that a try. I assume its best to let it dry between coats and before bedding so the Lanolin in the case lube solidifies.
@F15ElectricEagle3 жыл бұрын
@@PracticalTacticalAccuracy - Yes, let it dry between coats. I should have provided a bit more details. Make sure the metal surfaces are completely clean and degreased before they are spayed. Apply the first coat with horizontal spaying stroke then with a vertical spaying stroke. Let dry for at least one hour. Apply a second coat this time with a diagonal spraying stoke. Again, let it dry for at least one hour. Good luck with your bedding project and hope the group size shrinks.
@PracticalTacticalAccuracy3 жыл бұрын
@@F15ElectricEagle Thanks for the tips.
@bobjackson34422 жыл бұрын
@@PracticalTacticalAccuracy So how did it turn out using the technique and One Shot?
@PracticalTacticalAccuracy2 жыл бұрын
@@bobjackson3442 It worked but not as well as what I used for the video. Certainly a reasonable way to go. As recommended above. let it dry before setting it.
@LCRider133 жыл бұрын
I have one of these in 7mm-08. Very accurate and basically a nice rifle. But, when you clean it, DO NOT use any type of degreasing cleaner. It will literally melt the stock. This is not a composite stock like on a Christiansen Arms rifle that will stand up to anything.
@jamespollard16703 жыл бұрын
It looks good .
@2daleech3 жыл бұрын
Standing, unsupported, unslung just taking pot shots and you want to talk about accuracy and 'walking'.......
@DustinNulf3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a good bedding job!
@MehulKamdar3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed both your reviews, sir. I am considering buying one to put on a light AR 10 in 308. It will see heavy pig cull use here in the South of Texas. I am wondering if the sight would stand up to the recoil and cycling motions that it would be subject to on the rifle? I am not sure whether I should buy this and use it for the relative simplicity of the design (and the competitive price, of course) or spend more and buy an Aimpoint instead? Both the rifle and the sight would see heavy and sometime rough use, and hence the questions. Thank you in advance for any advice that you may have for me. Best wishes!
@PracticalTacticalAccuracy3 жыл бұрын
I see no reason why it would not stand up to the recoil of a semi auto 308. I've been running it on a pump shotgun for quite a while now with no problems. It's a really simple system and quite robust.
@MehulKamdar3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, sir. I shall go ahead and order one and check it out. Thank you for your very prompt and helpful reply.
@mattjubie3 жыл бұрын
this video doesn't do justice to the feel of this gun in your hands. The lightness is awesome and those soft rubber parts of the stock a nice Hogue grip feel that you'll love
@Sauspreme4 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity how would this provide depth perception if your right eye is blocked from seeing the target by a black circle and red dot? Did you notice it affect depth perception when you tried it?
@PracticalTacticalAccuracy4 жыл бұрын
Good question... You know, I never found it to be a problem. Lately I've been using it on my Mossberg 590 shotgun for skeet shooting. Its a standing joke at the skeet range where the guys who don't know me are always expecting me to shoot badly and start coaching me from the first station, but everyone laughs as they figure it out when I shoot as well as anyone there. The big advantage is there is no fixed field of view, so leading 5 feet on the middle station is not a problem like it is on a traditional red dot.
@Sauspreme4 жыл бұрын
@@PracticalTacticalAccuracy Oh yeah I didn't even think about like the peripheral vision of the eye looking down the sight. I guess that would provide depth perception, especially in something like skeet shooting. Cool stuff!
@chrispolovich30714 жыл бұрын
POP CAN,,,,,,,,,omg,,,,,
@krolelov1794 жыл бұрын
great video. What cartridge are you using for hunting?
@krolelov1794 жыл бұрын
Have you had any cartridge ejection problems with your setup?
@charlieb3084 жыл бұрын
Did you zero the sight before shooting?
@capomand454 жыл бұрын
I used the original OEG on an FAL Para while 'sightseeing' in the Congo. Excellent for snap shots at moving targets. If you try to 'aim' you are doomed.
@MrStevenjackson114 жыл бұрын
I had one on my mini 14 for over 30 years and it still works great
@fishsmell25704 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking this would be so fun on my mini 14 lol. Idk it's just a cool idea.
@davidgrossman51044 жыл бұрын
I use the modified choke in mine , birds are usually dust if this operator can hit them , I do have the same problem with the choke tube coming loose .
@theetimer29864 жыл бұрын
Looks a lot more hard hitting in slow motion
@schaferhundschmidt17984 жыл бұрын
Put the medium or hard springs in, that one was bottoming out. Choke tubes on most shotguns come loose. Use sparing amounts of lube, and tighten them with the wrench, they stay in longer. I can get through a 200 bird program without mine loosening up. I love mine, that Bump Buster lets me shoot all day! To answer David's question, I've shot 1 oz. with no problems, and a friend that has one has shot 7/8's with no problems. Do not use anything hotter than Remington Nitro Gold 1 1/8's in it. The new style piston is MIM, I replaced mine with an old style piston and piston seal.
@alanmarshall40974 жыл бұрын
I use Armson Tritium Open dome OEGs on my Winchester 1300 Defender and my M1-Carbine. I like the fast target acquisition and the wider peripheral view. It takes some getting used to, but once you've got it, it's second nature to use quickly.
@DBMarine58095 жыл бұрын
Great video for someone like me who had no idea what these were. Great stuff.
@Nick-wn1xw5 жыл бұрын
Sah ko. It’s not Say ko. Ask them if you doubt it.
@ingesamuelsson81044 жыл бұрын
Sako
@mattjubie3 жыл бұрын
potato potateo
@flintymcduff5417 Жыл бұрын
True fact it is Saw Ko. Seiko is a Japanese watch.
@akradr5 жыл бұрын
An older design but great for those with astigmatism as the dot is a perfect circle compared to using a LED based red dot sight.
@ringingsteel87293 жыл бұрын
Aniquin yeah. I am nearsighted, and it’s always a blotch for me. Even expensive dots are. Unless you’re using a dirt cheap red dot you probably have an eye issue. Get a prism optic if it really bugs you. My acog looks absolutely fine, and they make those in 1x magnification too.
@jimdent3515 жыл бұрын
I actually don't like the Optilock system. This setup leaves no room for adjusting the location of the rings. Why Sako discontinued their old rings is beyond me. Besides, the heavily built bases look out of place on such a streamline rifle.
@panaanton23345 жыл бұрын
Good video enjoyed watching this review
@kennethgraversen53295 жыл бұрын
Dont put anything in the scope mounts. Its dovetails, so you can loosen the two screws, and take the scope of, and put on another scope.You can shift scopes without any kind of sighting in again, as long as you have a set of rings for each of your scopes. It works just as well as Blaser mounts. On Sakos you just need an allen key.
@behindthetrigger1425 жыл бұрын
You are a little too inside the box for my taste Ken. Instead of viewing things only as they are, try seeing how they should be... The point of the taper is to allow the scope rings to become more tightly mounted as a result of recoil. That's why they get wider toward the front. Removing the pin at the rear base allows the bases to lock up on the taper. The shim is just there to align the real base with the ejection port for cosmetic reasons and to compensate for what I see as a design defect as the rear base should be machined to lock up on the taper in the correct location without the need for a stop in or shims. Furthermore the screw that holds the base to the rings is at best anemic so that's why the bases and rings were welded together. Its all about removing any possibility of movement.
@janainavelosocardoso21365 жыл бұрын
*I have no complaints except for the terrible factory packaging>>>**arah.in/XJLx** which lets the butt end of the stock flop in the box around unsupported, levering against the barrel tip which is held in place with a piece of syrofoam. Check to see that the screw securing the barrel in place at the muzzle end of the stock are tight, or the barrel will move around and affect your accuracy. It takes a while to get used to the long trigger pull and non adjustable tension, but then it's darn accurate.*
@jagmeetsmann5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why you wasted so much time on the scope rings and base. They are made by machines 1000 times more expensive than your house. Pop can shims? Seriously? So dumb. If you had read the instructions you might have installed them in the correct orientation
@davidw30896 жыл бұрын
Just ordered one! Any updates on this shotgun? You committed about choke tube. Any other issues since? How about shell issues? Any problems with a particular shell? Ty
@behindthetrigger1426 жыл бұрын
No other issues Dave, The 1100 is a justifiable classic. There’s lots of newer autos, usually lighter weight, but sometimes less weight does not help your shooting. Most trap guns are fairly heavy for a reason… you shoot better if the gun has a little weight to it… not that the 1100 is unreasonably heavy… just a nice practical weight that plays well in the field and on the trap field. As far as malfunctions go.. no problems to report. The choke tube comes loose and that drives me crazy with no good fix. I tried loctite plumbing adhesive and it did work, but it can harden up and make it difficult to remove. I’m tempted to use a lot of loctite and make it full choke forever.
@iroquoisplissken35836 жыл бұрын
How is this better than just using both eyes with a regular red dot sight that you can actually see through? I feel like I can just leave the end cap on my tritium illuminated scope and it would be the same thing.
@behindthetrigger1426 жыл бұрын
Well good question Iriquois... I'm not saying its necessarily better or worse, but it is different in a way that has certain advantages. For one... no batteries... ever... The red dot is self calibrating to the ambient light level. The tritium filament has a half life of ten years and that's half good and half bad. Its good because you have 10 years not to worry about it and bad because once it dies you are really into a new scope for night time, but at least still perfectly useable during the day or twilight hours forever.I would be quick to accept that long term reliability of the OEG could outperform an electronic red dot. Electronic systems are probably more likely to fail than a purely mechanical system.... eventually.As for the difference between this OEG sight and an electronic laser red dot of your choice... number one is astigmatism... if you don't have it... great... if you do have it all electronic laser red dots suck for you. For a person with astigmatism the laser red dot may look like a clump of red yarn or several individual dots or even look like a commet. The OEG sight dot is clear and sharp for everyone much like a Mepro M21.Then there's the field of view... unlimited with OEG. What I have yet to confirm is a point of impact when using a red dot with a front lens cover. I suspect that a red dot will have a different zero when used in a look through config versus with a front cover and two eye condition. Id like to test that and prove it either way.This next point might be in left field for you depending upon how much of a prepper you consider yourself to be... Ever heard of an EMP or electro magnetic pulse. It can happen from a solar flare or high level Nuke and it will fry all electronics including an electronic red dot sight.... but not an Armson OEG or Mepro M21 because they are not electronic.
@AmericanXification6 жыл бұрын
Cheap but effective way to get your scope back up at night when the tritium goes out is to tape mini chem lites to the light gathering bit of the scope. Does not look great but is effective, we did this in Iraq to our ACOGS when we needed a brighter reticle.
@andycraig69055 жыл бұрын
W.Howard BANJO they don’t teach you that in school lol
@Dominik1895 жыл бұрын
Side note the thing about front lens cover on a illuminated reticle optic is that's genuinely a hack for cqc with higher power optics that have an illuminated reticle.
@fishsmell25704 жыл бұрын
@@AmericanXification cool idea honestly. Pretty smart stuff.
@peterkrasnoff67286 жыл бұрын
308 deer gun
@peterkrasnoff67286 жыл бұрын
then why don't don't most people use at 3 08 for moose hunting because you got more knockdown power from a bigger caliber and there's no reason not to use it
@behindthetrigger1426 жыл бұрын
Well.. it depends how hard you want to hit the tree on the other side of the animal.You seem to be a traditional hunter. Traditional is not technical... Many hunters use what the other guys use without analyzing why. Just because its popular does not mean it is ideal.I've been shooting competitively to 1000 yards for 20 years and hand loading for 40 years. Nothing we use at 1000 yards is a typical hunter load. We use high BC hollow point bullets and these target bullets actually perform much better than soft point hunting bullets... but that is not the whole story.But again... you keep going back to classing the cartridge for terminal performance with an apparent disregard for the projectile. Is the projectile that kills... not the case it was fired from.As I stated earlier its all about bullet performance and placement.Barrel twist rate s also a very important factor that most are not aware of.. fast twist rate is always better.BTW... and this will piss you off... I've been hunting deer with a 223.A guy like you would think that's inhumane but again... its because you don't understand how to configure the barrel and ammunition for that purpose.I've never lost a deer and no deer I shot with a 223 ran more than 10 yards.
@peterkrasnoff67286 жыл бұрын
sure
@peterkrasnoff67286 жыл бұрын
and if you are hunting moose with it I am saying it just dose not have the power
@JS92GoW24 жыл бұрын
Tired of this kind of bs comments, just goes to show you don't know squat about hunting and different calibers. Here in Sweden we have the densest population of Moose in the world, and we've been hunting them with the 6.5x55 for over 100 years without any issues, and it's "weaker than the .308 if you look at energy in ft.lbf or Joules...
@mattjubie3 жыл бұрын
@@JS92GoW2 you all are great shots. 100 years of head shots is very impressive lol
@viktorandersson78193 жыл бұрын
@@mattjubie I shot my first moose with 6,5x55. Works like a charm. A proper hunter doesn't go for headshots...
@peterkrasnoff67286 жыл бұрын
I shot one moose with a 308 in prince george bc and it took 4 shots in the chest and for next to no extra wait getting a 30 06 or bigger is much more human
@behindthetrigger1426 жыл бұрын
I shot a moose from 284 yards with it using 185 Berger Juggernauts which are sold as a match bullet (not even recommended for hunting by the manufacturer BTW) and the moose ran 3 feet straight down. Good external ballistics and terminal ballistics will get the job done even with less muzzle velocity. I never blame the caliber... it's all about good bullet performance and good bullet placement.
@ingesamuelsson81044 жыл бұрын
I think it was some shit behind the gun when you needed four shots
@mattjubie3 жыл бұрын
what I nice moose to stand there and let you take 3 follow up shots.
@wasachevyguy3 жыл бұрын
I shot a moose with a Barnes TTSX 120 gr. from my 7mm-08. One is all it took.
@seamac79663 жыл бұрын
30/06 is still a thirty caliber it just has a longer case and in my experience a Moose doesn’t know the difference between being hit with a 180gr .308 or a 180gr 30/06.
@peterkrasnoff67286 жыл бұрын
why would you ever buy a sako fin light in 308
@behindthetrigger1426 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't you? It's light, accurate and an all around high quality rifle. It's an absolute please to carry on a moose hunt.
@Nick-wn1xw5 жыл бұрын
Why would you care what someone chooses?
@ingesamuelsson81044 жыл бұрын
The best caliber 👌
@goldenkangaroo49696 жыл бұрын
45.0 gr. VARGET, Awesome in my TRG. 155gr Lapua scener
@sniperbob116 жыл бұрын
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@ufdiver067 жыл бұрын
Have you sold the ior yet? FFP? Reticle?
@behindthetrigger1427 жыл бұрын
yes the IOR was sold. Still have both Leupolds though
@precisionriflereviews20297 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you are aware but the Sako rings have been fitted incorrectly. You may have found you needed a lot of windage when setting your zero. The back of the front ring bace. Should be inline with the front of the ejection port. Happy shooting mate.
@behindthetrigger1427 жыл бұрын
The windage was actually almost perfect. Only about 1 moa from center of windage travel.But hey, thanks for the tip.
@afilthycheatah7 жыл бұрын
hey behind the trigger awesome video and beauty rifle . I am very interested in getting one of these finlights but I am reading on problems on the rifle extracting casings and them hitting the bottom of the scope and falling back into the receiver. I have read many reviews on this just curious what your take is on it ! thanks
@behindthetrigger1427 жыл бұрын
I've seen where the round ejects but bounces off the scope base back into the action, but never when they have this type of scope rings. It's always been some sort of one piece base. Not to say that it couldn't happen, just that I've never seen it. I also have a Sako in 223 that I've fired thousands of rounds through and never had any sort of failure... Again it has the same Sako Optilock rings on it. I suppose if the rings were low enough, it might create that possible... if it was a problem, I'd probably try the next higher rings.
@volisita7 жыл бұрын
Nice video, now i know why there's a dent in the case necks from my Springfield M1A. How does the Norinco shoot?
@behindthetrigger1427 жыл бұрын
Well, I did do some work on the Norinko.. Not much work, but some. I filled the plastic forend channels with fiberglass resin to stiffen the forend. I also knurled the barrel to improve the operating rod guide fit and alignment. I did a couple other tweaks to test an idea I had. I bedded the gas tube and operating rod guide. I think the gun can hold about 2 inch groups at 100 yards, but I'll be testing further and posting videos later.
@rogelinmclean49847 жыл бұрын
the gun is more accurate. it was the bench specaily with sako and doing handloads. maybe more load testing
@clonoid7 жыл бұрын
different cases for load development ? works if the internal volume matches your 'good' cases...
@Deputybull8 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize that they were producing sights with tritium again. I would really like to get this sight for my new KSG shotgun.
@1stAmendmentguy5 жыл бұрын
You may have already found it, but the link for Armson is www.ArmsonUSA.com.
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Actually in terms of accuracy potential bout of this sight when I first sighted it in on my 12 gauge slug gun at 65 yards with an ammo my gun loves I printed a one hole group. A round hole with mouse ears for the other two shots. I was later able to make a softball sized 4 shot group at 115 yards with the same 12 gauge shotgun. Keep in mind your results may vary as I have a rifle accurate shotgun that I will never part with.
Hi behindthetrigger, Love your content, quick question.. On you Sako finnlight stock, have you noticed the soft touch on your stock getting sticky at all? I'm interested in the sako finnlight but worried about what I'm reading online about the finnlight stocks getting sticky over time... Thanks for your time, hope to hear from you soon!
Good question Paul. I do not know because I no longer have it, but I did recently pick up a shotgun with a rubber over mold that I have the same concern. It's brand new so its fine now, but time will tell. I also have a Zoom H4 sound recorder that suffers from the exact problem. I cleaned off the oily substance with acetone and that seems to have helped at least temporarily. My preference is old fashioned plastic for the reason you pointed out.
Hi Sir, Thank you for the quick and informative response. I subbed to both your channels. Love your content, keep up the good work Sir.
@@paulmo-we1mw Thanks Paul, but it appears my content has been "too good" as I have been demonetized. It began with simple shadow banning and that reduced my viewership to the point where my low view count was reason for demonetization. I made more money with 5 videos before trump got elected than on 50 videos after he got elected. Trumps election highlighted the role social media plays in influencing the hearts and minds so the liberals went to work to silence conservative voices on the internet. I may still put out videos on occasion as an act of defiance but there is no chance I will get paid a dime for the effort.
Ugliest stock I've ever seen...
Beautiful rifle,what model leupold is that and what height are the rings you used they look like mediums.
These and the Tikka love Sako ammo.
Weight?
Maybe you should use it before you start critiquing it?
Too much of a hassle to apply. After bedding about 60 rifles using different epoxies (JB Weld Original , Accra Glass, Devcon 10110, Pro-Bed 2000 and Marine Tex), I found the most easy to apply and effective release agent is two coats of Hornady One Shot Case Lube.
That's an interesting suggestion. I have a Rem 700 on the bench that I'm planning to bed soon. I think I'll give that a try. I assume its best to let it dry between coats and before bedding so the Lanolin in the case lube solidifies.
@@PracticalTacticalAccuracy - Yes, let it dry between coats. I should have provided a bit more details. Make sure the metal surfaces are completely clean and degreased before they are spayed. Apply the first coat with horizontal spaying stroke then with a vertical spaying stroke. Let dry for at least one hour. Apply a second coat this time with a diagonal spraying stoke. Again, let it dry for at least one hour. Good luck with your bedding project and hope the group size shrinks.
@@F15ElectricEagle Thanks for the tips.
@@PracticalTacticalAccuracy So how did it turn out using the technique and One Shot?
@@bobjackson3442 It worked but not as well as what I used for the video. Certainly a reasonable way to go. As recommended above. let it dry before setting it.
I have one of these in 7mm-08. Very accurate and basically a nice rifle. But, when you clean it, DO NOT use any type of degreasing cleaner. It will literally melt the stock. This is not a composite stock like on a Christiansen Arms rifle that will stand up to anything.
It looks good .
Standing, unsupported, unslung just taking pot shots and you want to talk about accuracy and 'walking'.......
Looks like a good bedding job!
Enjoyed both your reviews, sir. I am considering buying one to put on a light AR 10 in 308. It will see heavy pig cull use here in the South of Texas. I am wondering if the sight would stand up to the recoil and cycling motions that it would be subject to on the rifle? I am not sure whether I should buy this and use it for the relative simplicity of the design (and the competitive price, of course) or spend more and buy an Aimpoint instead? Both the rifle and the sight would see heavy and sometime rough use, and hence the questions. Thank you in advance for any advice that you may have for me. Best wishes!
I see no reason why it would not stand up to the recoil of a semi auto 308. I've been running it on a pump shotgun for quite a while now with no problems. It's a really simple system and quite robust.
Thank you, sir. I shall go ahead and order one and check it out. Thank you for your very prompt and helpful reply.
this video doesn't do justice to the feel of this gun in your hands. The lightness is awesome and those soft rubber parts of the stock a nice Hogue grip feel that you'll love
Out of curiosity how would this provide depth perception if your right eye is blocked from seeing the target by a black circle and red dot? Did you notice it affect depth perception when you tried it?
Good question... You know, I never found it to be a problem. Lately I've been using it on my Mossberg 590 shotgun for skeet shooting. Its a standing joke at the skeet range where the guys who don't know me are always expecting me to shoot badly and start coaching me from the first station, but everyone laughs as they figure it out when I shoot as well as anyone there. The big advantage is there is no fixed field of view, so leading 5 feet on the middle station is not a problem like it is on a traditional red dot.
@@PracticalTacticalAccuracy Oh yeah I didn't even think about like the peripheral vision of the eye looking down the sight. I guess that would provide depth perception, especially in something like skeet shooting. Cool stuff!
POP CAN,,,,,,,,,omg,,,,,
great video. What cartridge are you using for hunting?
Have you had any cartridge ejection problems with your setup?
Did you zero the sight before shooting?
I used the original OEG on an FAL Para while 'sightseeing' in the Congo. Excellent for snap shots at moving targets. If you try to 'aim' you are doomed.
I had one on my mini 14 for over 30 years and it still works great
I was just thinking this would be so fun on my mini 14 lol. Idk it's just a cool idea.
I use the modified choke in mine , birds are usually dust if this operator can hit them , I do have the same problem with the choke tube coming loose .
Looks a lot more hard hitting in slow motion
Put the medium or hard springs in, that one was bottoming out. Choke tubes on most shotguns come loose. Use sparing amounts of lube, and tighten them with the wrench, they stay in longer. I can get through a 200 bird program without mine loosening up. I love mine, that Bump Buster lets me shoot all day! To answer David's question, I've shot 1 oz. with no problems, and a friend that has one has shot 7/8's with no problems. Do not use anything hotter than Remington Nitro Gold 1 1/8's in it. The new style piston is MIM, I replaced mine with an old style piston and piston seal.
I use Armson Tritium Open dome OEGs on my Winchester 1300 Defender and my M1-Carbine. I like the fast target acquisition and the wider peripheral view. It takes some getting used to, but once you've got it, it's second nature to use quickly.
Great video for someone like me who had no idea what these were. Great stuff.
Sah ko. It’s not Say ko. Ask them if you doubt it.
Sako
potato potateo
True fact it is Saw Ko. Seiko is a Japanese watch.
An older design but great for those with astigmatism as the dot is a perfect circle compared to using a LED based red dot sight.
Aniquin yeah. I am nearsighted, and it’s always a blotch for me. Even expensive dots are. Unless you’re using a dirt cheap red dot you probably have an eye issue. Get a prism optic if it really bugs you. My acog looks absolutely fine, and they make those in 1x magnification too.
I actually don't like the Optilock system. This setup leaves no room for adjusting the location of the rings. Why Sako discontinued their old rings is beyond me. Besides, the heavily built bases look out of place on such a streamline rifle.
Good video enjoyed watching this review
Dont put anything in the scope mounts. Its dovetails, so you can loosen the two screws, and take the scope of, and put on another scope.You can shift scopes without any kind of sighting in again, as long as you have a set of rings for each of your scopes. It works just as well as Blaser mounts. On Sakos you just need an allen key.
You are a little too inside the box for my taste Ken. Instead of viewing things only as they are, try seeing how they should be... The point of the taper is to allow the scope rings to become more tightly mounted as a result of recoil. That's why they get wider toward the front. Removing the pin at the rear base allows the bases to lock up on the taper. The shim is just there to align the real base with the ejection port for cosmetic reasons and to compensate for what I see as a design defect as the rear base should be machined to lock up on the taper in the correct location without the need for a stop in or shims. Furthermore the screw that holds the base to the rings is at best anemic so that's why the bases and rings were welded together. Its all about removing any possibility of movement.
*I have no complaints except for the terrible factory packaging>>>**arah.in/XJLx** which lets the butt end of the stock flop in the box around unsupported, levering against the barrel tip which is held in place with a piece of syrofoam. Check to see that the screw securing the barrel in place at the muzzle end of the stock are tight, or the barrel will move around and affect your accuracy. It takes a while to get used to the long trigger pull and non adjustable tension, but then it's darn accurate.*
I don’t know why you wasted so much time on the scope rings and base. They are made by machines 1000 times more expensive than your house. Pop can shims? Seriously? So dumb. If you had read the instructions you might have installed them in the correct orientation
Just ordered one! Any updates on this shotgun? You committed about choke tube. Any other issues since? How about shell issues? Any problems with a particular shell? Ty
No other issues Dave, The 1100 is a justifiable classic. There’s lots of newer autos, usually lighter weight, but sometimes less weight does not help your shooting. Most trap guns are fairly heavy for a reason… you shoot better if the gun has a little weight to it… not that the 1100 is unreasonably heavy… just a nice practical weight that plays well in the field and on the trap field. As far as malfunctions go.. no problems to report. The choke tube comes loose and that drives me crazy with no good fix. I tried loctite plumbing adhesive and it did work, but it can harden up and make it difficult to remove. I’m tempted to use a lot of loctite and make it full choke forever.
How is this better than just using both eyes with a regular red dot sight that you can actually see through? I feel like I can just leave the end cap on my tritium illuminated scope and it would be the same thing.
Well good question Iriquois... I'm not saying its necessarily better or worse, but it is different in a way that has certain advantages. For one... no batteries... ever... The red dot is self calibrating to the ambient light level. The tritium filament has a half life of ten years and that's half good and half bad. Its good because you have 10 years not to worry about it and bad because once it dies you are really into a new scope for night time, but at least still perfectly useable during the day or twilight hours forever.I would be quick to accept that long term reliability of the OEG could outperform an electronic red dot. Electronic systems are probably more likely to fail than a purely mechanical system.... eventually.As for the difference between this OEG sight and an electronic laser red dot of your choice... number one is astigmatism... if you don't have it... great... if you do have it all electronic laser red dots suck for you. For a person with astigmatism the laser red dot may look like a clump of red yarn or several individual dots or even look like a commet. The OEG sight dot is clear and sharp for everyone much like a Mepro M21.Then there's the field of view... unlimited with OEG. What I have yet to confirm is a point of impact when using a red dot with a front lens cover. I suspect that a red dot will have a different zero when used in a look through config versus with a front cover and two eye condition. Id like to test that and prove it either way.This next point might be in left field for you depending upon how much of a prepper you consider yourself to be... Ever heard of an EMP or electro magnetic pulse. It can happen from a solar flare or high level Nuke and it will fry all electronics including an electronic red dot sight.... but not an Armson OEG or Mepro M21 because they are not electronic.
Cheap but effective way to get your scope back up at night when the tritium goes out is to tape mini chem lites to the light gathering bit of the scope. Does not look great but is effective, we did this in Iraq to our ACOGS when we needed a brighter reticle.
W.Howard BANJO they don’t teach you that in school lol
Side note the thing about front lens cover on a illuminated reticle optic is that's genuinely a hack for cqc with higher power optics that have an illuminated reticle.
@@AmericanXification cool idea honestly. Pretty smart stuff.
308 deer gun
then why don't don't most people use at 3 08 for moose hunting because you got more knockdown power from a bigger caliber and there's no reason not to use it
Well.. it depends how hard you want to hit the tree on the other side of the animal.You seem to be a traditional hunter. Traditional is not technical... Many hunters use what the other guys use without analyzing why. Just because its popular does not mean it is ideal.I've been shooting competitively to 1000 yards for 20 years and hand loading for 40 years. Nothing we use at 1000 yards is a typical hunter load. We use high BC hollow point bullets and these target bullets actually perform much better than soft point hunting bullets... but that is not the whole story.But again... you keep going back to classing the cartridge for terminal performance with an apparent disregard for the projectile. Is the projectile that kills... not the case it was fired from.As I stated earlier its all about bullet performance and placement.Barrel twist rate s also a very important factor that most are not aware of.. fast twist rate is always better.BTW... and this will piss you off... I've been hunting deer with a 223.A guy like you would think that's inhumane but again... its because you don't understand how to configure the barrel and ammunition for that purpose.I've never lost a deer and no deer I shot with a 223 ran more than 10 yards.
sure
and if you are hunting moose with it I am saying it just dose not have the power
Tired of this kind of bs comments, just goes to show you don't know squat about hunting and different calibers. Here in Sweden we have the densest population of Moose in the world, and we've been hunting them with the 6.5x55 for over 100 years without any issues, and it's "weaker than the .308 if you look at energy in ft.lbf or Joules...
@@JS92GoW2 you all are great shots. 100 years of head shots is very impressive lol
@@mattjubie I shot my first moose with 6,5x55. Works like a charm. A proper hunter doesn't go for headshots...
I shot one moose with a 308 in prince george bc and it took 4 shots in the chest and for next to no extra wait getting a 30 06 or bigger is much more human
I shot a moose from 284 yards with it using 185 Berger Juggernauts which are sold as a match bullet (not even recommended for hunting by the manufacturer BTW) and the moose ran 3 feet straight down. Good external ballistics and terminal ballistics will get the job done even with less muzzle velocity. I never blame the caliber... it's all about good bullet performance and good bullet placement.
I think it was some shit behind the gun when you needed four shots
what I nice moose to stand there and let you take 3 follow up shots.
I shot a moose with a Barnes TTSX 120 gr. from my 7mm-08. One is all it took.
30/06 is still a thirty caliber it just has a longer case and in my experience a Moose doesn’t know the difference between being hit with a 180gr .308 or a 180gr 30/06.
why would you ever buy a sako fin light in 308
Why wouldn't you? It's light, accurate and an all around high quality rifle. It's an absolute please to carry on a moose hunt.
Why would you care what someone chooses?
The best caliber 👌
45.0 gr. VARGET, Awesome in my TRG. 155gr Lapua scener
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Have you sold the ior yet? FFP? Reticle?
yes the IOR was sold. Still have both Leupolds though
Not sure if you are aware but the Sako rings have been fitted incorrectly. You may have found you needed a lot of windage when setting your zero. The back of the front ring bace. Should be inline with the front of the ejection port. Happy shooting mate.
The windage was actually almost perfect. Only about 1 moa from center of windage travel.But hey, thanks for the tip.
hey behind the trigger awesome video and beauty rifle . I am very interested in getting one of these finlights but I am reading on problems on the rifle extracting casings and them hitting the bottom of the scope and falling back into the receiver. I have read many reviews on this just curious what your take is on it ! thanks
I've seen where the round ejects but bounces off the scope base back into the action, but never when they have this type of scope rings. It's always been some sort of one piece base. Not to say that it couldn't happen, just that I've never seen it. I also have a Sako in 223 that I've fired thousands of rounds through and never had any sort of failure... Again it has the same Sako Optilock rings on it. I suppose if the rings were low enough, it might create that possible... if it was a problem, I'd probably try the next higher rings.
Nice video, now i know why there's a dent in the case necks from my Springfield M1A. How does the Norinco shoot?
Well, I did do some work on the Norinko.. Not much work, but some. I filled the plastic forend channels with fiberglass resin to stiffen the forend. I also knurled the barrel to improve the operating rod guide fit and alignment. I did a couple other tweaks to test an idea I had. I bedded the gas tube and operating rod guide. I think the gun can hold about 2 inch groups at 100 yards, but I'll be testing further and posting videos later.
the gun is more accurate. it was the bench specaily with sako and doing handloads. maybe more load testing
different cases for load development ? works if the internal volume matches your 'good' cases...
I didn't realize that they were producing sights with tritium again. I would really like to get this sight for my new KSG shotgun.
You may have already found it, but the link for Armson is www.ArmsonUSA.com.