F@cking bulshitt refereeing, suppose inclusivity is for trans people
@chijuscai336632 минут бұрын
Honestly, forget Richie, ovarated, we hv some good 10s available, dat culd potentially b beta
@felixocarroll320334 минут бұрын
Unless arranged prior to leaving NZ to play outside NZ and be available for the All Blacks, (Eg, Barrett, Savea) None should be picked for the All Blacks. We should support those playing in NZ otherwise we’ll open a door for more players to exit NZ. Leaving NZ short on top level players with possible consequence’s of ending in a second tare Union.
@truckcompany52 минут бұрын
Love the wince by Wilson at 18:47. Wilson is absolutely right, Canterbury can make it because it's possible. The better question is will Canterbury make it/how likely do they think it is possible. The difference between the questions completely goes over Kirwan's head and he has no idea or he doesn't care. I think that's what Wilson's is wince was about.
@Dinkybear622Сағат бұрын
JW and JK seem to be creating better dialogue on the show. Much better. Thanks for listening to your fans.
@user-cm6qe2mj7kСағат бұрын
Blues will be the favorites for this year's Super Rugby Competition.
@adriaanjagers9919Сағат бұрын
Yes go rugby league speed the game up😑
@GunKarakaСағат бұрын
I'd actually like to see Tupaea at 12 and Proctor at 13. JK talks about specialists. I like Rieko, but he's not a specialist 13. And Havili is just a big NO.
@brendonwilliams57092 сағат бұрын
The NZR board is currently run by a very arrogant membership which need to be dealt with in order for Super Rugby to grow further then the current borders of Pasifika - AKA Mr Robinson
@mikescudder46212 сағат бұрын
They are mostly ex Crusaders - how they end up there i do not know..
@AngusRobert2 сағат бұрын
Unbelievable to have Havili in the squad when he’s not playing the best in the country in *any* position, let alone the 3 or 4 cover positions JK suggests
@standreamcatcher2916Сағат бұрын
the fact that they all picked havili over quinn with those stats right in front of them is bizarre actually. havili is absolutely useless and there’s no point in having him in the squad just cause he can cover multiple positions when he’s mediocre at all of them. meanwhile in comparison tupaea is leading in carry metres and second behind anton in line breaks. just when i thought the obsession with average crusaders players was over, yet here we are.
@fossilmatic47 минут бұрын
Havili is a fine player. Not showing the needed form at this point, I agree he doesn’t make the selection. But how many other Crusader ABs also look below par because of their team slump?
@lukejohnson33612 сағат бұрын
Mackenzie at international 10 is an unknown. Top teams line speed squeezing his space will affect his highlight reel. That will be interesting
@mikescudder46212 сағат бұрын
Well they persisted with BB for a good while there.
@fossilmatic50 минут бұрын
Let’s find out. 12 months ago he was a fullback with no track record at 10 at this level. The sky could be the limit but we need to find out.
@VaiHousehold2 сағат бұрын
NZ has the depth. They’ve done it for years. Don’t change the rules to accommodate players leaving for the big paycheck and also lifestyle. Nz rugby will always be good. But players who leave, it could strengthen the island teams. Mounga playing for Samoa or Tonga would be insane!!! Rugby needs to elevate all nations. European rugby is getting incredibly entertaining thanks to Portugal and Georgia. 10 years time we may see new teams in the top 8. Here’s hoping.
@jamesblewman2 сағат бұрын
Blues are playing better without Perofeta. Never ABs material. I'd stick with Plummer.
@mikescudder46212 сағат бұрын
Why are these guys talking about Havili??
@mrmeek86542 сағат бұрын
Skinny burns the Maroubra lion
@user-dv1nm6ty8d3 сағат бұрын
I personally don’t like world rugby be trying to get rid of the scrum but in all honesty I don’t think there will be less scrums they’re just won’t be any scrum right after another most scrumscome from a knock on and you can still call scrum from a penalty
@michaelstevens10044 сағат бұрын
The jerseys looks bad the season it looks cheap no offense and penny isnt the right coach because the crusaders looks lost even the allblacks in the team looks average
@datavizuals5 сағат бұрын
Crusaders are weak and all of a sudden the rest of the country cares again! Not sure the Aussies have any increased interest. When the panelists are Highlanders, Chiefs and Blues fans they really think everyone cares just because they might win
@ObiePaddles3 сағат бұрын
It’s more interesting when teams are more even. The crusaders have been awesome and set a standard that will be hard to match ever again.
@eduardvictor7116 сағат бұрын
You stole people on pitch from SA
@eduardvictor7116 сағат бұрын
Hi Mr JK your new product is called rugby league
@colinmeehan7916 сағат бұрын
Does Goldie talk when he sleeps,he sure doesnt when he is awake.
@ala-hc4rx6 сағат бұрын
Hey good crowds ,afternoon games ??
@nicholasnorliffe466 сағат бұрын
crowds esp kids HAVE TO ALLOWED on the field after the game SO GOOD see them
@clearwater34326 сағат бұрын
Congrats Blues but there will be a Mighty Hurricane the next time these 2 teams meet. Go the Mighty 🌀's!!!
@mikescudder46212 сағат бұрын
Thats if the Blues don't go missing between now and then...
@trelkel38056 сағат бұрын
Hoskins fitness is off the charts, he regularly plays 80 minutes and is just involved in the last 10 minutes as the first.
@Marius_vanderLubbe7 сағат бұрын
What is the pronunciation kirwan puts on 'Reiko'?
@mikescudder46212 сағат бұрын
It could only be 'proper' coming from a knight.
@Marius_vanderLubbe2 сағат бұрын
@@mikescudder4621 Imagine having such a bloated ego you take an award from a blood soaked mobster family like that lot.
@CoMa_NZ7 сағат бұрын
Time to move Ardie to starting 7, his actual best position, no more accommodating Sam Cane.
@VaiHousehold2 сағат бұрын
That Lakai kid for Canes is impressive as well. Ardie is the best 7 fr.
@montybrewster77 сағат бұрын
I am welsh so as my birth right i love rugby. I absolutely love this show & love super rugby but i often wonder if those of you in nz, aus & fiji realise how difficult sky make it for us to watch your competition? They show one live game at stupid o'clock on a saturday morning then we get the briefest of highlights...essentially just the tries...from 'SUPER RUGBY PACIFIC & TRC' on youtube & that’s it! The rugby played in this competition is like a different sport to the turgid, attritional rubbish we generally get in the northern hemisphere. There's a huge market for southern hemisphere rugby up north but we just can not get it for whatever reason? Suits basically who ruin everything! F****g corporate suits!!!
@rafflesiaandfriends7 сағат бұрын
I still want a tournament with the north and south America teams, the Asian teams the Oceania teams and pacific teams even if it's once every 4 years, something like world cup, nothing, eastern cup, nothing, world cup.
@MrAdamred7 сағат бұрын
May i say that jersey looks so good on ya Jeff
@djkchur7 сағат бұрын
Is Plumber the new Donaldson?
@shannonapaapa33747 сағат бұрын
WE HAVE GOT TO DO BETTER THAN THIS, DISECTING OUR GREAT GAME AND TALKING ALL THINGS NZ RUGBY SHOULD BE COMING FROM EXPERTS - NOT A COUPLE WINGERS WHO WHINGE SO MUCH ITS IRRITATING, KIRSTY NEEDS TO STAY ON THE RADIO... MILLS IS OK... WHY NOT BRING OUR SUPER TACTICIANS AND BRAINS OF THE GAME OUT FRONT?... ID LOVE A WAYNE SMITH / GRANT FOX LEAD SHOW WITH ROBBIE DEANS, GRAHAM HENRY, HANSEN AND LIKE CYCLING THROUGH EACH WEEK?...
@markrutherford60107 сағат бұрын
Mo’unga is earning too much money for NZ Rugby. He is earning 2.3 million.
@THEMMASOYRU8 сағат бұрын
Kirty's allgood but the other host was way more of a natural...
@user-im3hr1ed2l4 сағат бұрын
I like Kimberly too
@Tha46EEL8 сағат бұрын
Exciting,i hope the old gaurds gone. If hoskin doesnt start wtf, why not let these in form kiwis start smoking these internationals again, theres heaps of them
@The_wolf_gamer8 сағат бұрын
steph something from the blues is not good enough to play for the all blacks theres alot better 10 this year and well 15s aswell hes not making the all blacks
@troyocarroll9 сағат бұрын
The Hurricane's management will be quietly confident after what their side had to endure for this game. The late withdrawals alongside their injury list really put them under the kosh but there was no drop-off in performance or intensity. Their entire squad are producing top quality performances week in week out. Still think they're a better side than the Blues and that they'll get home final advantage.
@jrmop09657 сағат бұрын
This. They actually had a chance to win as well but wasn't the case. The Blues are easily beatable at home
@CoMa_NZ7 сағат бұрын
The Hurricanes weren't the only ones hit by injury, the Blues are missing their first choice halves pairing in Christie & Perofeta as well as Rieko Ioane then they lost Sullivan. Both teams at full strength is still a tough match for both teams.
@mikescudder46212 сағат бұрын
Agreed, except for the Brumbies blip.
@tekanawateoti3952Сағат бұрын
@@jrmop0965 yeah by the crusaders not your team
@firefonua76969 сағат бұрын
Hoskins is an 8. It's his time. Ardie off the bench
@shannonapaapa33747 сағат бұрын
MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@firefonua76969 сағат бұрын
Harry is the Blues 10. Done!!!
@rapid10109 сағат бұрын
I think Kirstie got scared that the other host was doing so well and she rushed back lol
@TheTizzle7 сағат бұрын
Now that you mention it I think you’re right 😂
@PJSO7 сағат бұрын
Yeah, Kimberlee Downs was awesome 👍🏾
@rapid10104 сағат бұрын
who can blame her 😂
@VaiHousehold2 сағат бұрын
Kirstie is untouchable 😂
@mikeycanterbury14219 сағат бұрын
Brother, Jeff, Wilson, Richie's. Father passed away no mention of it.😢 poor form
@lokeshchandnani37499 сағат бұрын
They did that in previous episodes
@troymomma6 сағат бұрын
That was like a month ago
@thewielloyd9889 сағат бұрын
They let kids onto the field after the Waratahs Brumbies match this weekend but 12 of them had to be saved when they got caught in a rip. 💧💧💧
@jakeclough80908 сағат бұрын
They had lifeguards instead of stewards 😂
@bruceclark48049 сағат бұрын
What's up with ohz paddocks got no drainage much
@MarkWhippy9 сағат бұрын
6:39 Imo NZ should emphasise quality over quantity. Less games, back to 12 rounds and 4 finalists. Even though it’s interesting to see who’s gonna make the final 8, when those quarter finals happen, they end up being one sided, predictable and pointless and another reason for fans to not bother. I also think Forbes is really slept on for the Blues. He’s been brilliant at fullback and him coming on for Sullivan was a blessing in disguise.
@jakeclough80908 сағат бұрын
Nope, there’s this obsession with less games, you need more games. Some of the best fan-strong leagues, like the nrl as much as I despise it, or football in Europe like the premier league, have very long seasons. Even in rugby in Europe is from September to may. You need these longer seasons so the league and clubs are constantly in your mind, they become a part of your life and routine. Bin off the npc. You may have to sacrifice the prestige and tradition slightly but make it a second division tournament which runs at the same time as super rugby
@MarkWhippy7 сағат бұрын
@@jakeclough8090 With NRL, it’s the main competition for Rugby League. They have a longer season for NRL, but they less genuine international competitions. So over saturation isn’t an issue for league at the moment like it is with Union. France are doing well with their rugby scene, but it’s actually struggling in the UK at the moment.
@mikescudder46212 сағат бұрын
Dunno Mark, its quite interesting watching whether the crusaders will actually make the play offs.
@scottyRAZERrobz9 сағат бұрын
Nah mate let Richie go. He created his legacy, a decent to good int. 10 with 56 caps. That's his legacy and whilst he will never be a great All Black, he was a good All Black. Lets keep the 10 jersey open for someone who wants to be a great All Black and is willing to make sacrifices to earn it. That's not to say you can't be both, look at Ardie Savea, an all time great All Black who has also earned money, but he always intended to come back and be a great All Black, he made sacrifices. We shouldn't be making huge financial sacrifices to buy players out of their overseas contracts when there are plenty of players here who have dreams of being great All Blacks and are currently making sacrifices to achieve this dream.
@mikescudder46212 сағат бұрын
Its Razor who wants to bring him back.
@nepiahemopo170231 минут бұрын
Ardie and Ritchie both made money choices. You can't cherry pick one from the other.
@bobosmith80129 сағат бұрын
The panel are some great rugby brains, but in all the discussion of the Canes v Blues, there was no mention of the Canes being down to their 4th and 5th hookers, and losing Lomax, Procter (Arguably 2 of their best players) and Delaney just prior to kickoff, having to re-jig the team, playing at Eden Park, and only losing by 4 points. Imagine if Moorby had not been bundled into touch. Yes the Blues won, but the average winning margin for the Blues at Eden Park for the last 2 years is 20 points. Winning by four is still a win, but these 2 teams are far closer than the panel seem to admit.
@lokeshchandnani37499 сағат бұрын
They could have said the same when blues played down in Wellington earlier in the season as to how blues lost 2-3 backs within first 20 mins and Hoskins had to play wing but still blues were one try away from winning. Teams that are in top 2 do not cry about injuries or late withdrawals. They have good enough squad which is why they are in top 2
@kairakuwaeldreor38688 сағат бұрын
@lokeshchandnani3749 they did say that when they reviewed that game...at length
@shannonapaapa33747 сағат бұрын
CAUSE THERE ODINARY ...
@lokeshchandnani37497 сағат бұрын
@@shannonapaapa3374 there was a time when all the greats were ordinary. It’s the experience of playing at the big stage that made them what they are today.
@lokeshchandnani374910 сағат бұрын
I just don’t understand the whole obsession with getting players back who have left. Started with Faingaanuku, then moved to sam and now Richie. If they have decided to leave, that’s it. Just because we haven’t been able to find suitable replacement of that level in the last 3 months doesn’t mean it’s end of the world. We have some very good players in the pipeline who with experience can get to that level. It is ridiculous NZR is trying to get them back. What message does it send to the current players? What does it do to their motivation and pathways to a black jersey?
@thewielloyd9889 сағат бұрын
Yeah that was a bizarre non-sequitur from Wilson. Was just saying how the comp is stronger than it has been in recent years (despite a lot of ABs leaving) and then talks about the need to bring back star players. SR needs to build the next crop into star/cult characters, entertain fans, ensure flowing rugby and become more connected to the community so each game is a big local event.
@jakeclough80908 сағат бұрын
@@thewielloyd988because the comp isn’t stronger, it’s more even right now and entertaining. But the quality has gone down. Which isn’t bad necessarily if it’s still entertaining and viewers are still okay
@geofflecren88277 сағат бұрын
Only in NZ would fans argue against the best players in the world playing in their competition. Tall poppy syndrome? Or? Of course our best players should be playing in our best competition. They make everyone better.
@PJSO7 сағат бұрын
Definitely Richie Mounga is one of the best 10s in the world right now but you're right. We need to let them leave and build from here. JK is right however, let him play out and use him as a get out jail free card at the last moment
@scorpio69647 сағат бұрын
totally spot on
@pfgc6110 сағат бұрын
Did the WAHA'S see that game.
@Kaia_Industrial_Complex10 сағат бұрын
The fact that Super Rugby allowed fans to come onto the field offers a glimpse into what made the 90s and early 2000s Super Rugby different and so popular. There wasn't so much emphasis on celebrity rugby players who are untouchable, it was about creating connections between players (idols) and fans of all ages. That is the sort of stuff NZ has a unique advantage and possibility of having which other countries due to population cant. It creates connection, inspiration and adoration for the game.
@tekanawateoti3952Сағат бұрын
the silver ferns every single one of them have always stayed and connected and signed every autograph at every game ive been too
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Ardie at 7 - I like it!
F@cking bulshitt refereeing, suppose inclusivity is for trans people
Honestly, forget Richie, ovarated, we hv some good 10s available, dat culd potentially b beta
Unless arranged prior to leaving NZ to play outside NZ and be available for the All Blacks, (Eg, Barrett, Savea) None should be picked for the All Blacks. We should support those playing in NZ otherwise we’ll open a door for more players to exit NZ. Leaving NZ short on top level players with possible consequence’s of ending in a second tare Union.
Love the wince by Wilson at 18:47. Wilson is absolutely right, Canterbury can make it because it's possible. The better question is will Canterbury make it/how likely do they think it is possible. The difference between the questions completely goes over Kirwan's head and he has no idea or he doesn't care. I think that's what Wilson's is wince was about.
JW and JK seem to be creating better dialogue on the show. Much better. Thanks for listening to your fans.
Blues will be the favorites for this year's Super Rugby Competition.
Yes go rugby league speed the game up😑
I'd actually like to see Tupaea at 12 and Proctor at 13. JK talks about specialists. I like Rieko, but he's not a specialist 13. And Havili is just a big NO.
The NZR board is currently run by a very arrogant membership which need to be dealt with in order for Super Rugby to grow further then the current borders of Pasifika - AKA Mr Robinson
They are mostly ex Crusaders - how they end up there i do not know..
Unbelievable to have Havili in the squad when he’s not playing the best in the country in *any* position, let alone the 3 or 4 cover positions JK suggests
the fact that they all picked havili over quinn with those stats right in front of them is bizarre actually. havili is absolutely useless and there’s no point in having him in the squad just cause he can cover multiple positions when he’s mediocre at all of them. meanwhile in comparison tupaea is leading in carry metres and second behind anton in line breaks. just when i thought the obsession with average crusaders players was over, yet here we are.
Havili is a fine player. Not showing the needed form at this point, I agree he doesn’t make the selection. But how many other Crusader ABs also look below par because of their team slump?
Mackenzie at international 10 is an unknown. Top teams line speed squeezing his space will affect his highlight reel. That will be interesting
Well they persisted with BB for a good while there.
Let’s find out. 12 months ago he was a fullback with no track record at 10 at this level. The sky could be the limit but we need to find out.
NZ has the depth. They’ve done it for years. Don’t change the rules to accommodate players leaving for the big paycheck and also lifestyle. Nz rugby will always be good. But players who leave, it could strengthen the island teams. Mounga playing for Samoa or Tonga would be insane!!! Rugby needs to elevate all nations. European rugby is getting incredibly entertaining thanks to Portugal and Georgia. 10 years time we may see new teams in the top 8. Here’s hoping.
Blues are playing better without Perofeta. Never ABs material. I'd stick with Plummer.
Why are these guys talking about Havili??
Skinny burns the Maroubra lion
I personally don’t like world rugby be trying to get rid of the scrum but in all honesty I don’t think there will be less scrums they’re just won’t be any scrum right after another most scrumscome from a knock on and you can still call scrum from a penalty
The jerseys looks bad the season it looks cheap no offense and penny isnt the right coach because the crusaders looks lost even the allblacks in the team looks average
Crusaders are weak and all of a sudden the rest of the country cares again! Not sure the Aussies have any increased interest. When the panelists are Highlanders, Chiefs and Blues fans they really think everyone cares just because they might win
It’s more interesting when teams are more even. The crusaders have been awesome and set a standard that will be hard to match ever again.
You stole people on pitch from SA
Hi Mr JK your new product is called rugby league
Does Goldie talk when he sleeps,he sure doesnt when he is awake.
Hey good crowds ,afternoon games ??
crowds esp kids HAVE TO ALLOWED on the field after the game SO GOOD see them
Congrats Blues but there will be a Mighty Hurricane the next time these 2 teams meet. Go the Mighty 🌀's!!!
Thats if the Blues don't go missing between now and then...
Hoskins fitness is off the charts, he regularly plays 80 minutes and is just involved in the last 10 minutes as the first.
What is the pronunciation kirwan puts on 'Reiko'?
It could only be 'proper' coming from a knight.
@@mikescudder4621 Imagine having such a bloated ego you take an award from a blood soaked mobster family like that lot.
Time to move Ardie to starting 7, his actual best position, no more accommodating Sam Cane.
That Lakai kid for Canes is impressive as well. Ardie is the best 7 fr.
I am welsh so as my birth right i love rugby. I absolutely love this show & love super rugby but i often wonder if those of you in nz, aus & fiji realise how difficult sky make it for us to watch your competition? They show one live game at stupid o'clock on a saturday morning then we get the briefest of highlights...essentially just the tries...from 'SUPER RUGBY PACIFIC & TRC' on youtube & that’s it! The rugby played in this competition is like a different sport to the turgid, attritional rubbish we generally get in the northern hemisphere. There's a huge market for southern hemisphere rugby up north but we just can not get it for whatever reason? Suits basically who ruin everything! F****g corporate suits!!!
I still want a tournament with the north and south America teams, the Asian teams the Oceania teams and pacific teams even if it's once every 4 years, something like world cup, nothing, eastern cup, nothing, world cup.
May i say that jersey looks so good on ya Jeff
Is Plumber the new Donaldson?
WE HAVE GOT TO DO BETTER THAN THIS, DISECTING OUR GREAT GAME AND TALKING ALL THINGS NZ RUGBY SHOULD BE COMING FROM EXPERTS - NOT A COUPLE WINGERS WHO WHINGE SO MUCH ITS IRRITATING, KIRSTY NEEDS TO STAY ON THE RADIO... MILLS IS OK... WHY NOT BRING OUR SUPER TACTICIANS AND BRAINS OF THE GAME OUT FRONT?... ID LOVE A WAYNE SMITH / GRANT FOX LEAD SHOW WITH ROBBIE DEANS, GRAHAM HENRY, HANSEN AND LIKE CYCLING THROUGH EACH WEEK?...
Mo’unga is earning too much money for NZ Rugby. He is earning 2.3 million.
Kirty's allgood but the other host was way more of a natural...
I like Kimberly too
Exciting,i hope the old gaurds gone. If hoskin doesnt start wtf, why not let these in form kiwis start smoking these internationals again, theres heaps of them
steph something from the blues is not good enough to play for the all blacks theres alot better 10 this year and well 15s aswell hes not making the all blacks
The Hurricane's management will be quietly confident after what their side had to endure for this game. The late withdrawals alongside their injury list really put them under the kosh but there was no drop-off in performance or intensity. Their entire squad are producing top quality performances week in week out. Still think they're a better side than the Blues and that they'll get home final advantage.
This. They actually had a chance to win as well but wasn't the case. The Blues are easily beatable at home
The Hurricanes weren't the only ones hit by injury, the Blues are missing their first choice halves pairing in Christie & Perofeta as well as Rieko Ioane then they lost Sullivan. Both teams at full strength is still a tough match for both teams.
Agreed, except for the Brumbies blip.
@@jrmop0965 yeah by the crusaders not your team
Hoskins is an 8. It's his time. Ardie off the bench
MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Harry is the Blues 10. Done!!!
I think Kirstie got scared that the other host was doing so well and she rushed back lol
Now that you mention it I think you’re right 😂
Yeah, Kimberlee Downs was awesome 👍🏾
who can blame her 😂
Kirstie is untouchable 😂
Brother, Jeff, Wilson, Richie's. Father passed away no mention of it.😢 poor form
They did that in previous episodes
That was like a month ago
They let kids onto the field after the Waratahs Brumbies match this weekend but 12 of them had to be saved when they got caught in a rip. 💧💧💧
They had lifeguards instead of stewards 😂
What's up with ohz paddocks got no drainage much
6:39 Imo NZ should emphasise quality over quantity. Less games, back to 12 rounds and 4 finalists. Even though it’s interesting to see who’s gonna make the final 8, when those quarter finals happen, they end up being one sided, predictable and pointless and another reason for fans to not bother. I also think Forbes is really slept on for the Blues. He’s been brilliant at fullback and him coming on for Sullivan was a blessing in disguise.
Nope, there’s this obsession with less games, you need more games. Some of the best fan-strong leagues, like the nrl as much as I despise it, or football in Europe like the premier league, have very long seasons. Even in rugby in Europe is from September to may. You need these longer seasons so the league and clubs are constantly in your mind, they become a part of your life and routine. Bin off the npc. You may have to sacrifice the prestige and tradition slightly but make it a second division tournament which runs at the same time as super rugby
@@jakeclough8090 With NRL, it’s the main competition for Rugby League. They have a longer season for NRL, but they less genuine international competitions. So over saturation isn’t an issue for league at the moment like it is with Union. France are doing well with their rugby scene, but it’s actually struggling in the UK at the moment.
Dunno Mark, its quite interesting watching whether the crusaders will actually make the play offs.
Nah mate let Richie go. He created his legacy, a decent to good int. 10 with 56 caps. That's his legacy and whilst he will never be a great All Black, he was a good All Black. Lets keep the 10 jersey open for someone who wants to be a great All Black and is willing to make sacrifices to earn it. That's not to say you can't be both, look at Ardie Savea, an all time great All Black who has also earned money, but he always intended to come back and be a great All Black, he made sacrifices. We shouldn't be making huge financial sacrifices to buy players out of their overseas contracts when there are plenty of players here who have dreams of being great All Blacks and are currently making sacrifices to achieve this dream.
Its Razor who wants to bring him back.
Ardie and Ritchie both made money choices. You can't cherry pick one from the other.
The panel are some great rugby brains, but in all the discussion of the Canes v Blues, there was no mention of the Canes being down to their 4th and 5th hookers, and losing Lomax, Procter (Arguably 2 of their best players) and Delaney just prior to kickoff, having to re-jig the team, playing at Eden Park, and only losing by 4 points. Imagine if Moorby had not been bundled into touch. Yes the Blues won, but the average winning margin for the Blues at Eden Park for the last 2 years is 20 points. Winning by four is still a win, but these 2 teams are far closer than the panel seem to admit.
They could have said the same when blues played down in Wellington earlier in the season as to how blues lost 2-3 backs within first 20 mins and Hoskins had to play wing but still blues were one try away from winning. Teams that are in top 2 do not cry about injuries or late withdrawals. They have good enough squad which is why they are in top 2
@lokeshchandnani3749 they did say that when they reviewed that game...at length
CAUSE THERE ODINARY ...
@@shannonapaapa3374 there was a time when all the greats were ordinary. It’s the experience of playing at the big stage that made them what they are today.
I just don’t understand the whole obsession with getting players back who have left. Started with Faingaanuku, then moved to sam and now Richie. If they have decided to leave, that’s it. Just because we haven’t been able to find suitable replacement of that level in the last 3 months doesn’t mean it’s end of the world. We have some very good players in the pipeline who with experience can get to that level. It is ridiculous NZR is trying to get them back. What message does it send to the current players? What does it do to their motivation and pathways to a black jersey?
Yeah that was a bizarre non-sequitur from Wilson. Was just saying how the comp is stronger than it has been in recent years (despite a lot of ABs leaving) and then talks about the need to bring back star players. SR needs to build the next crop into star/cult characters, entertain fans, ensure flowing rugby and become more connected to the community so each game is a big local event.
@@thewielloyd988because the comp isn’t stronger, it’s more even right now and entertaining. But the quality has gone down. Which isn’t bad necessarily if it’s still entertaining and viewers are still okay
Only in NZ would fans argue against the best players in the world playing in their competition. Tall poppy syndrome? Or? Of course our best players should be playing in our best competition. They make everyone better.
Definitely Richie Mounga is one of the best 10s in the world right now but you're right. We need to let them leave and build from here. JK is right however, let him play out and use him as a get out jail free card at the last moment
totally spot on
Did the WAHA'S see that game.
The fact that Super Rugby allowed fans to come onto the field offers a glimpse into what made the 90s and early 2000s Super Rugby different and so popular. There wasn't so much emphasis on celebrity rugby players who are untouchable, it was about creating connections between players (idols) and fans of all ages. That is the sort of stuff NZ has a unique advantage and possibility of having which other countries due to population cant. It creates connection, inspiration and adoration for the game.
the silver ferns every single one of them have always stayed and connected and signed every autograph at every game ive been too