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I wonder if you could improve the oi small. The knob mutes it alot. And adding a brass point to the knob should enhance the volume and purity of the tone. I just bough one to change my classic Dutch bell (speaking of loud, but also has a huge size).
@gregggoldstein344925 күн бұрын
I like more a jingling sound than a stationary resinence ring. Most of these bells have a high pitch ring but do not cycle their resinence to get a ching ching ding a ling resinence ring which greets pedestrians to a melody.
@michaelscanlon6553Ай бұрын
This is the ultimate bike bell review love it
@bicyclesnetauАй бұрын
Hey thanks for that.
@neilburrows66702 ай бұрын
Spurcycle bell is superb although note the metal clasps are too large for placing near the grips on a standard bar (e.g. Jones H-bar). Need to use a zip tie.
@grahamgeez2 ай бұрын
I run the knog luxe and have done for a few years now. The hammer mech has grown tired and Its always been frustratingly dull in my opinion. Not worth the money. It does look nice, but that's as far as it goes. It's useless for my commute.
@AtortAerials3 ай бұрын
Spurcycle hands down sounds the best and pleasant to the ears which is better for good vibes.
@billric19453 ай бұрын
These are all junk, get a bulb horn!!
@lupeters2133 ай бұрын
While I love my Spurcycle's clarity and sustain its pitch is simply too high for old people.
@billric19453 ай бұрын
There all to quiet!,
@bicyclesnetau3 ай бұрын
In some countries - it is not legal for a bicycle rider to use an air horn. If this is legal in your country and you need a solution that is loud enough for people in motor vehicles, then look for an air horn. AirZound is a brand I used, very effective and it is inflated with a bicycle pump. This means it will eventually run out and won't work when there is no more pressure left. However these air horns are not good around pedestrians who often are shocked and may remain standing and confused than clear the way. In this case combining a regular bell and the air horn is a good compromise. There are also electronic bells that claim to be louder. However I think they are still too quite for drivers of motor vehicles to hear and the electronic sound is unusual - it doesn't sound like a 'alert' like a bell or air horn which I think impacts the effectivity.
@tinytim7973 ай бұрын
Awesome video, thank you for such a thorough review.
@pedalandtringtring5 ай бұрын
Lovely demonstration
@Cycology_Major5 ай бұрын
Repeated listenings to the Knog Oi types make my head hurt, damnit. I wanted that style. But their tones & pitch (or something) reverb all around my cranium & then, for the ultimate in discomfort, linger there noticeably longer than any others🫨
@hobbygaertner4205 ай бұрын
The problem I've had with the Spurcycle one is that the tone is just too high. Older people don't hear it. And those are the people you encounter most often on your typical weekend bike tour.
@dennissardan53845 ай бұрын
How much?
@bicyclesnetau5 ай бұрын
$1,000 for you
@moabfool6 ай бұрын
Remember one simple principle: Decibel ratings are a magnitude scale, meaning that for every 10 decibels the sound increases tenfold. A 70 decibel bell is 10× louder than a 60 decibel bell. As a rule of thumb, a 3 dB increase doubles volume, so a 66 dB sound is about 4× louder than a 60 dB sound.
@R0bsterb0YАй бұрын
The explanation of yours is quiet good, but your values are wrong. The decibel ratings are a log2 based value, not a log10 based value like magnitude of earthquakes. So every 10 decibels "more", the sound-intensity doubles: 50 decibel ist "double as loud" als 40 decibel.
@cadriver25707 ай бұрын
The ear is very sensitive to this frequency range so they don't have to measure loud on a dB meter to be effective. I personally find the piercing bells to be just that, overly harsh.
@user-sl4fu9pr4m7 ай бұрын
When I baught a Bicycle From "Decathlon" the "Junk Bell" Was already fitted on as it came with the bell. The "Junk Bell" Is Really a piece of crap, It is difficult to strike when riding your Bike and when you manages to strike it makes a soft sound. with that bell it's just a toy on a toy, I mean it's a toy bell fitted on your kid's toy bike! This is from my personal Experience
@snowshoe32748 ай бұрын
I have a spurcycle clone and it's literally the best thing ever. It's super compact and robust and the sound is sharp, long and loud. Works very well.
@chadkline42688 ай бұрын
A critical test is the subzero test. Plastics aren't very elastic in frigid air. Eg, #2 is total garbage. It won't work at all in freezing weather.
@roterfrosch58088 ай бұрын
Danke, sehr interessant!
@boba42799 ай бұрын
The English made Lion Bellworks bells are the loudest, best sounding, longest ringing and best looking, by far. Not to mention being about half the price of the overpriced Spurcycle bell which isn't any louder than my older tiny Cateye bell. But when in doubt and cycling in the city among vehicles with their windows rolled up and half asleep drivers, the AirZound horn can be a lifesaver. I gave a blast when a tow truck driver was intending to blow through a 4-way stop, and the driver was so startled and hit his brakes so hard that he jerked/bounced forward in his seat as his truck slammed to a stop. The AirZound is louder than our city's transit bus horns, so it can be useful.
@pinkfreud629 ай бұрын
I got a copper Crane. It's pretty loud & sounds good.
@MarioGoatse11 ай бұрын
Remember, Knog is an Aussie owned and designed brand. Support Aussie businesses. Don't send your money overseas if you can help it.
@MinhCakesOfficial11 ай бұрын
Great comparison! I need a bell that cars can hear (horns or other devices aren’t allowed in my country)… does such a thing exist?
@bicyclesnetau11 ай бұрын
I think the answer here is unfortunately 'no'. The airhorns are effective and are a way to get people in vehicles to actually here you as bells will not work... unless they have their window open. Even then with distance and other noise bells are ineffective. There is an electronic horn called, if I recall, hornit which has a claimed 140db. This takes batteries and may also have legal restrictions. Though the actual problem here is the legal restrictions (which exist in many countries) that regulate bike riders against an effective bell. To be fair, you don't want to use a loud horn for pedestrians or other bike riders, but if you want a horn for use in traffic that other vehicles can hear - it feels questionable that the law will block bike riders from these.
@MinhCakesOfficial11 ай бұрын
@@bicyclesnetau Thank you for taking the time to reply! Yes, Hornit and AirZound are horns, which only motored bikes may use. I would never honk at pedestrians. I really just want to honk at cars because drivers can be so unaware of bicycles and often put me in dangerous situations. i guess I'll keep yelling and screaming at them, I know they can hear THAT!
@Tom-hl7wc Жыл бұрын
So in terms of bang for you buck the junk bell seems like a clear winner. It’s primarily for being heard after all.
@MorganBrown Жыл бұрын
Crane for the win!
@rrcb27 Жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@blaiseducdaumont1280 Жыл бұрын
#4
@BenjaminGerrans Жыл бұрын
Hella plot twist on the outside test there - with that accent and channel name, the last thing I expected was snow!
@CCNGH Жыл бұрын
Hello. The bell that sounds just before your video sounds. I need it
@hotbx119 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you demo the brass bell?
@hotbx119 Жыл бұрын
😖
@MrTeachersalas Жыл бұрын
Best video ever
@fm7319 Жыл бұрын
Great Job
@treimar Жыл бұрын
I use knog knockoff and it's pretty good
@TheAnonyy Жыл бұрын
I have the spurcycle the suzu one sounds great bit to large
@robertmorris9275 Жыл бұрын
Yea but how does it work ffs
@bicyclesnetau Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question. It is a wireless system to change gears. The front gear shifters sends the up / down shift commands wirelesslt to the front / rear derailleur. This means there are no longer shifting cables required and can also mean that 'electronically' the shifting can (be partly) automatically calibrate / finetuned (compared to mechanical shifting which is only manual). Another advantage is that only a light tap is needed for shifting. The downsides are that batteries are needed and require recharging. The SRAM electronic shifting has gone through a number of iterations and improvements since the original release and electronic shifting tends to also be released across different models (and not only the top-level groupset).
@robertmotyka133 Жыл бұрын
I bought Knog Oi and no pedestrian can hear it, and also it hurts my finger, when I try to ring a few times. Lovely design, but useless.
@bicyclesnetau Жыл бұрын
Surprised that it hurts your finger. With these 'hammer strike' type of bells, more force does not always get you a louder ring. With pedestrians, sometimes they simply won't hear any bells. They are in their well and not receptive, hard or hearing or a loud or soft bell competes with other ambient noise. Can depend on the location and situation. The older style bells with the 'cling-a-ling-a-ling' can give you more change for recognisability (arhhh... bike bell) compared to bells with a single ring or chime. Air horns are often very effective for capturing attention (and you may get noticed by drivers)... but can also be rude and shock pedestrians. When pedestrians hear a warning (from a regular or loud bell) they sometimes move out of the way... but sometimes get confused and move directly in the way. I can agree that a louder bell can give you a better change of being heard, though other factors beyond like these ones can still impact the effect.
@jagabogo Жыл бұрын
love your short, honest review!👍🏼🥳🏆
@RealtorRoadCyclist Жыл бұрын
Great demonstration! Thank you so much! Yesterday I bought the Spurcyle bell. Your video helped a lot.
@stever2074 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous! Thank you! This is a perfect comparison of both near/distant volume as well as a graphic illustration of the harmonics. It's also great to see them side-by-side, for those of us with accessory-crowded handlebars. This video gets my ringing endorsement!
@kristofferguerra569 Жыл бұрын
look at that, nice
@user-uj1pz4xy5d Жыл бұрын
Failure
@inxlee Жыл бұрын
Is the titanium version not being sold anymore?
@sisophous Жыл бұрын
I have the Spurcycle bell on both of my bikes. They are mounted on the right side drop bar and work great to alert people I am approaching. The company stands by their product. One of the bells had lost the loudness after a couple of years. So, I shipped it back to Spurcycle and they repaired it, free of charge. Not only does their bell sound great it is very compact which is a priority compared to other bells.
@SBATHORGOD9 ай бұрын
Crane is better
@robappleby583 Жыл бұрын
The large brass Crane bell is the best I've found so far, having tried a few, including Spurcycle. In fact the Spurcycle bell is excellent, but does't carry as well as the Crane in my experience. The Crane is also mellower even though it's louder. But they're definitely both very good products.
@Badass-cycles Жыл бұрын
In the Netherlands i use a 80mm DingDong Bell it gives a great sound, much better then, PINGGGggg.
@stevenbissett Жыл бұрын
I use a referee's whistle. I can change the pitch, volume and tone at will. It sits in my mouth rather than on the handlebar.
@thefinancedude9100 Жыл бұрын
he distance of each bell to the device is different you need to redo the test with same distance for al bells to reader
@FirstLast-jm4dx Жыл бұрын
One area not covered is whether any of these bells rattle or have unintended ringing when riding on rough roads/trails.
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I wonder if you could improve the oi small. The knob mutes it alot. And adding a brass point to the knob should enhance the volume and purity of the tone. I just bough one to change my classic Dutch bell (speaking of loud, but also has a huge size).
I like more a jingling sound than a stationary resinence ring. Most of these bells have a high pitch ring but do not cycle their resinence to get a ching ching ding a ling resinence ring which greets pedestrians to a melody.
This is the ultimate bike bell review love it
Hey thanks for that.
Spurcycle bell is superb although note the metal clasps are too large for placing near the grips on a standard bar (e.g. Jones H-bar). Need to use a zip tie.
I run the knog luxe and have done for a few years now. The hammer mech has grown tired and Its always been frustratingly dull in my opinion. Not worth the money. It does look nice, but that's as far as it goes. It's useless for my commute.
Spurcycle hands down sounds the best and pleasant to the ears which is better for good vibes.
These are all junk, get a bulb horn!!
While I love my Spurcycle's clarity and sustain its pitch is simply too high for old people.
There all to quiet!,
In some countries - it is not legal for a bicycle rider to use an air horn. If this is legal in your country and you need a solution that is loud enough for people in motor vehicles, then look for an air horn. AirZound is a brand I used, very effective and it is inflated with a bicycle pump. This means it will eventually run out and won't work when there is no more pressure left. However these air horns are not good around pedestrians who often are shocked and may remain standing and confused than clear the way. In this case combining a regular bell and the air horn is a good compromise. There are also electronic bells that claim to be louder. However I think they are still too quite for drivers of motor vehicles to hear and the electronic sound is unusual - it doesn't sound like a 'alert' like a bell or air horn which I think impacts the effectivity.
Awesome video, thank you for such a thorough review.
Lovely demonstration
Repeated listenings to the Knog Oi types make my head hurt, damnit. I wanted that style. But their tones & pitch (or something) reverb all around my cranium & then, for the ultimate in discomfort, linger there noticeably longer than any others🫨
The problem I've had with the Spurcycle one is that the tone is just too high. Older people don't hear it. And those are the people you encounter most often on your typical weekend bike tour.
How much?
$1,000 for you
Remember one simple principle: Decibel ratings are a magnitude scale, meaning that for every 10 decibels the sound increases tenfold. A 70 decibel bell is 10× louder than a 60 decibel bell. As a rule of thumb, a 3 dB increase doubles volume, so a 66 dB sound is about 4× louder than a 60 dB sound.
The explanation of yours is quiet good, but your values are wrong. The decibel ratings are a log2 based value, not a log10 based value like magnitude of earthquakes. So every 10 decibels "more", the sound-intensity doubles: 50 decibel ist "double as loud" als 40 decibel.
The ear is very sensitive to this frequency range so they don't have to measure loud on a dB meter to be effective. I personally find the piercing bells to be just that, overly harsh.
When I baught a Bicycle From "Decathlon" the "Junk Bell" Was already fitted on as it came with the bell. The "Junk Bell" Is Really a piece of crap, It is difficult to strike when riding your Bike and when you manages to strike it makes a soft sound. with that bell it's just a toy on a toy, I mean it's a toy bell fitted on your kid's toy bike! This is from my personal Experience
I have a spurcycle clone and it's literally the best thing ever. It's super compact and robust and the sound is sharp, long and loud. Works very well.
A critical test is the subzero test. Plastics aren't very elastic in frigid air. Eg, #2 is total garbage. It won't work at all in freezing weather.
Danke, sehr interessant!
The English made Lion Bellworks bells are the loudest, best sounding, longest ringing and best looking, by far. Not to mention being about half the price of the overpriced Spurcycle bell which isn't any louder than my older tiny Cateye bell. But when in doubt and cycling in the city among vehicles with their windows rolled up and half asleep drivers, the AirZound horn can be a lifesaver. I gave a blast when a tow truck driver was intending to blow through a 4-way stop, and the driver was so startled and hit his brakes so hard that he jerked/bounced forward in his seat as his truck slammed to a stop. The AirZound is louder than our city's transit bus horns, so it can be useful.
I got a copper Crane. It's pretty loud & sounds good.
Remember, Knog is an Aussie owned and designed brand. Support Aussie businesses. Don't send your money overseas if you can help it.
Great comparison! I need a bell that cars can hear (horns or other devices aren’t allowed in my country)… does such a thing exist?
I think the answer here is unfortunately 'no'. The airhorns are effective and are a way to get people in vehicles to actually here you as bells will not work... unless they have their window open. Even then with distance and other noise bells are ineffective. There is an electronic horn called, if I recall, hornit which has a claimed 140db. This takes batteries and may also have legal restrictions. Though the actual problem here is the legal restrictions (which exist in many countries) that regulate bike riders against an effective bell. To be fair, you don't want to use a loud horn for pedestrians or other bike riders, but if you want a horn for use in traffic that other vehicles can hear - it feels questionable that the law will block bike riders from these.
@@bicyclesnetau Thank you for taking the time to reply! Yes, Hornit and AirZound are horns, which only motored bikes may use. I would never honk at pedestrians. I really just want to honk at cars because drivers can be so unaware of bicycles and often put me in dangerous situations. i guess I'll keep yelling and screaming at them, I know they can hear THAT!
So in terms of bang for you buck the junk bell seems like a clear winner. It’s primarily for being heard after all.
Crane for the win!
Excellent!
#4
Hella plot twist on the outside test there - with that accent and channel name, the last thing I expected was snow!
Hello. The bell that sounds just before your video sounds. I need it
Why didn't you demo the brass bell?
😖
Best video ever
Great Job
I use knog knockoff and it's pretty good
I have the spurcycle the suzu one sounds great bit to large
Yea but how does it work ffs
Thank you for your question. It is a wireless system to change gears. The front gear shifters sends the up / down shift commands wirelesslt to the front / rear derailleur. This means there are no longer shifting cables required and can also mean that 'electronically' the shifting can (be partly) automatically calibrate / finetuned (compared to mechanical shifting which is only manual). Another advantage is that only a light tap is needed for shifting. The downsides are that batteries are needed and require recharging. The SRAM electronic shifting has gone through a number of iterations and improvements since the original release and electronic shifting tends to also be released across different models (and not only the top-level groupset).
I bought Knog Oi and no pedestrian can hear it, and also it hurts my finger, when I try to ring a few times. Lovely design, but useless.
Surprised that it hurts your finger. With these 'hammer strike' type of bells, more force does not always get you a louder ring. With pedestrians, sometimes they simply won't hear any bells. They are in their well and not receptive, hard or hearing or a loud or soft bell competes with other ambient noise. Can depend on the location and situation. The older style bells with the 'cling-a-ling-a-ling' can give you more change for recognisability (arhhh... bike bell) compared to bells with a single ring or chime. Air horns are often very effective for capturing attention (and you may get noticed by drivers)... but can also be rude and shock pedestrians. When pedestrians hear a warning (from a regular or loud bell) they sometimes move out of the way... but sometimes get confused and move directly in the way. I can agree that a louder bell can give you a better change of being heard, though other factors beyond like these ones can still impact the effect.
love your short, honest review!👍🏼🥳🏆
Great demonstration! Thank you so much! Yesterday I bought the Spurcyle bell. Your video helped a lot.
Fabulous! Thank you! This is a perfect comparison of both near/distant volume as well as a graphic illustration of the harmonics. It's also great to see them side-by-side, for those of us with accessory-crowded handlebars. This video gets my ringing endorsement!
look at that, nice
Failure
Is the titanium version not being sold anymore?
I have the Spurcycle bell on both of my bikes. They are mounted on the right side drop bar and work great to alert people I am approaching. The company stands by their product. One of the bells had lost the loudness after a couple of years. So, I shipped it back to Spurcycle and they repaired it, free of charge. Not only does their bell sound great it is very compact which is a priority compared to other bells.
Crane is better
The large brass Crane bell is the best I've found so far, having tried a few, including Spurcycle. In fact the Spurcycle bell is excellent, but does't carry as well as the Crane in my experience. The Crane is also mellower even though it's louder. But they're definitely both very good products.
In the Netherlands i use a 80mm DingDong Bell it gives a great sound, much better then, PINGGGggg.
I use a referee's whistle. I can change the pitch, volume and tone at will. It sits in my mouth rather than on the handlebar.
he distance of each bell to the device is different you need to redo the test with same distance for al bells to reader
One area not covered is whether any of these bells rattle or have unintended ringing when riding on rough roads/trails.