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I'm glad we as a society are getting over Frank Miller's depiction of Superman!
What I take from this is that comics are at best a collaborative effort. Jack Kirby was indeed the mason whole helped built Marvel Comics as it is know today and an influence on all future writer and artists but even a massive talent like his couldn't have done it all by himself. I believe this shows us why it is important for companies and people for that matter, to give credit to those who actually did the work and what they did specifically.
Just a side note: Please watch the full video before forming an opinion on it. This video is not meant to trash Stan Lee's character or legacy in anyway (although it may come off that way). While some of the things he took part in were not fair to other writers and artists, his legacy as a founding father of modern comics cannot be denied. The video was more so intended to shine a light on Jack Kirby rather than completely turn off the light shining on Stan Lee. That spotlight should be shared amongst both of them equally as the people who took Marvel to the next level. May Stan Lee rest in peace and the contributions he made to comics never be forgotten. With that being said, enjoy the video :)
*RIP bro*
In the first 7 seconds you say Miller was "extremely popular in the '70s and '80s", and that he was the "King of the Bronze Age". Miller didn't even begin his Daredevil run until 1979 and didn't get popular (to say nothing of "extremely popular) until years later. The Bronze Age ended in 1983, but Miller's Batman work didn't start until 1986, so I'm not seeing how he was the "king" of the previous age. With very basic errors like this in the very opening of the video, it's hard to justify watching the rest of it. Miller is a complicated figure who has sure put out controversial and offensive material, especially in recent decades. However, I have absolutely no faith in your ability to parse and explain what Miller IS or ISN'T if you can't even get basic dates and ages of comics correct.
the speed up at the end
good analysis but the visual part of your video is such an eye sore. If you don't want drugs and violence in your video (assuming because of algorithm), why putting that footage there in the first place and awkwardly censoring it. Your editing style is straight from Orwelian novel and you are making an essay about show that focuses on drugs and violence, if anything, that alone will be picked up by said youtube algorithm
Thanks for the comment! The blurring was done after the video was uploaded to KZread. At first when we planned and edited the video with the intention of having everything visible. However, after a couple of weeks of the video being uploaded, the video became unavailable due to KZread's content check system deeming the content to be "too graphic and inappropriate" - which is interesting given the fact that the same clips used are also found on KZread... The original version of the video which we have linked in this reply as well as in the pinned comments: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6Flr81yntnRdKQ.html
@@thedefinitiveopinion OMG youtube is really being ridiculous with their rules. It's such a shame. Anyway keep up the good work
@thedefinitiveopinion ....With the exception of your critique and or opinion of "Holy Terror" this video is completely off the mark. it (surprisingly) doesnt even mention his reaction and comments to the occupy wall street movement in 2011, “Occupy is nothing but a pack of louts, thieves, and rapists, an unruly mob, fed by Woodstock-era nostalgia and putrid false righteousness. These clowns can do nothing but harm America.” Harsh inflammatory and slanderous, not to mention ironic, being that wall street is literally made up of louts thieves rapists, an unruly mob; ive worked there, i know. (he surprisingly omitted "drug addicts", which also would have been a description of the people who work on the trading floor of wall street.) miller's spiral was perhaps caused by his alcoholism (i dont know and i dont want to accuse or comment, it's not for me to gossip or slander anyone) but you fail to mention his politics, which are right wing libertarian, "fascist lite". im not calling him a fascist. i dont think he is one, not in a "true" sense of the word anyway. i have heard stories of miller (and i live in ny, i know people who know miller) being an absolute gem to the people around him,, and ive met him twice and he was lovely. you largely ignore or are ignorant of miller's career. miller was mugged multiple times when he first moved from vermont to nyc. street crime was rampant in nyc at the time and that experience can and will twist you if youre not careful. thats what happened to miller, he came to nyc and the city twisted him into having some shitty politics, all of which seep through into the comics to one degree or another. two comics that are not really looked at with any detail, and render this video's arguments to nil, is his batman year 1, which is arguably the perfect batman origin story and big guy and rusty the boy robot. those two books shatter this ridiculously stupid "he was always this way" take.
This is my favorite video essay I’ve seen about Breaking Bad so far. Really gets into the nuance of Jesse and Walt’s relationship in a way others haven’t been able to.
Miller is still a legend. He just evolved onto his own branch away from mainstream comics and made his own art.
I say Homelander is a psychopath, it makes more sense than a sociopath since I think a sociopath is more of a criminal sort of violent jus not at a level like Homelander.
Homelander seems like he is a psychopath, but due to the nurture of his environment, he started possessing certain sociopathy traits, but is still a psychopath since he jus gets rid of people without remorse.Oh and he doesn't need to hide evidence or anything cus no human can stop em and he is aware of it.
I feel like a Sociopath doesn't commit murder unless they are pushed to a certain extent or genuinely need to.A sociopath I believe is one that threatens others they will eliminate them, but instead doesn't cus of their inability of their consciousness.A sociopath is more of a great thief, criminal dealing drugs and stuff, but a psychopath is more of the one who commits the crime, but understand the emotion the person must feel.You see understanding and genuinely feeling empathy for a person are different things, but similar.A person with empathy will most likely not commit a murder, but a psychopath would which is what changes a psycho from a sociopath.
I feel like a Sociopath doesn't commit murder unless they are pushed to a certain extent or genuinely need to.A sociopath I believe is one that threatens others they will eliminate them, but instead doesn't cus of their inability of their consciousness.A sociopath is more of a great thief, criminal dealing drugs and stuff, but a psychopath is more of the one who commits the crime, but understand the emotion the person must feel.You see understanding and genuinely feeling empathy for a person are different things, but similar.A person with empathy will most likely not commit a murder, but a psychopath would which is what changes a psycho from a sociopath.
I feel like a Sociopath doesn't commit murder unless they are pushed to a certain extent or genuinely need to.A sociopath I believe is one that threatens others they will eliminate them, but instead doesn't cus of their inability of their consciousness.A sociopath is more of a great thief, criminal dealing drugs and stuff, but a psychopath is more of the one who commits the crime, but understand the emotion the person must feel.You see understanding and genuinely feeling empathy for a person are different things, but similar.A person with empathy will most likely not commit a murder, but a psychopath would which is what changes a psycho from a sociopath.
Bruh, Jessie had years of cooking experience + on many occasions HE HIMSELF cooked without permission of Walter.. so no Jessie was not "manipulated".
KingFring
Michey with ALL of his brother's weapons is just awesome
Adams wasn't a writer. Except an awful one. He was famous and known for his ART.
Hollywood and ego got him😢😢😢
14:30 YESS EXACTLY!
when you are old no one will even know who you are , let alone bother to slander you in a video .
We’ll see about that. 😂
His Daredevil is the best comic I've ever read and still my favourite.
So according to this video, the Frank Miller comic "Holy Terror" is "racist" against Muslims even though Islam is a religion and not a race. How can one be racist against something that has no race? This makes no sense!
Miller lost his mind after 9/11. He was in Hells Kitchen while it happened. His art and writing got messy after it and just projecting his emotions.
You’re right; the more appropriate term would have been “xenophobic” (which was also used in the video). However, “racist” is just a lot more recognizable and easier to understand.
Miller was racist before that, 300 is a clear example of racism and homophobia
what he doesn't understand is heroism
Bro didn’t miss a thing 👌
Masterfully written characters
Jesse’s an anti hero.
“Modern day sensibilities “ ?? What a joke , they’ll never be another creator like FM in comics ever again
Actually the All Star stuff came after 9:11 too? So we really can’t blame 9:11 for Holy Terror. & Sin City is an awful strip. It’s misogynist and old school he man shit. I hated reading that crap.
Raphael will Literally Become Kratos if He was the last Ronin 💀💀
Shitting on Frank Miller is a fools errand. Nice try 👎
I liked his work until he decided that since he didn't understand Superman, he would make him a villain. This is why that character is treated so terribly now, one guy just had to ruin Supes. Forget Frank Miller.
Frank miller and alan moore. The two most overhyped and overpraised comic writers ever. Thir works were great. But noth are one trick ponies. There are way better and more versatile writers and artists out there. All it takes is to stop thinking dc and marvel are the only ones making comics today. Boom studios power rangers is a perfect comic There are amazing comics out there. We just need to broaden our perspectives and stop praising these fossiles. And hey. Ive been reading comics since 1980. I was there when these guys did their best works. I can tell that their time came and went years ago.
Sorry but I'll take From Hell, a large chunk of TLOEG, and Providence over Power Rangers.
13:25 I can't find ironic enough the fact that an ad from a bollywood's superhero movie did appear on this ecact frame
Anybody who thinks Dark Knight Returns is a good version of Batman is an idiot and everything wrong with super hero fandom, i hate that comic and the garbage that was inspired by it like Batman v Superman
It's the best Bateman story.
This is literally just a product of absurd wokeness. Despising the ideology of Islam is not “xenophobic”. 😂😂
Did people suddenly forget Jessie entered the criminal underworld by his own accord? Don't give me that "but muh parents!! 1!1!" there is zero evidence. Btw, bit of irony is when Walt was supposed to K1II Domingo, Jessie was cold to him. When Jessie k1IIed Gale, Walt was cold to him. Bit of pay back?
Loved Holy Terror and All Star Batman for their over the top storyline. Did it offend people? Boo hoo 😢 so does taking all of those lives mercilessly...
All star Bateman was cringe.
Comic book people on the left used to oppose right wing politics by making better, groundbreaking comics. Now they make essays for character assassination and play victim when they don't get their way. Creating interest, humor, structure, persuasion by the comic itself, none of that matters as long as the comic is preaching to the choir. During the 80s, many talented creators leaning to the left felt threatened by the prevalent politics of that era, but they still incorporated whatever message they wanted to say in a more concealed, intelligent manner. The problem now is that many of the creators criticizing others like Miller have become so complacent, decadent in their craft that it will be very difficult for them to use the same method for adapting to a change in the landscape.
Miller was projecting his emotions after 9/11. His art and writing has no logic but just him projecting his emotional frustrations rather than entertaining people like he used to.
I’m getting tired of hear that he’s racist or xenophobic, he wrote Holy Terror as message of rage and hate against the tragic events of 11/9, everyone was pissed about those events, I know it wasn’t the right way to express how he felt but people it’s just hypocrite because of how they judge Miller, Miller was one of a kind, one of the brightest minds of the seventies and eighties, his work will endure forever
you can make good art and still be a shit person
I loved Holy Terror and its over the top characters. I felt just as angry as him about 9/11 and too bad if people were offended. What was done to the country was beyond offense...
9/11 made a huge amount of people become more openly racist blaming the tragedy on every single brown skinned person and this cultural acceptance of racism led to a huge amount of racist media in the years following that until after 2 terms of the war criminal George W Bush made everyone started realizing how horrible things were becoming because of the mass xenophobia and racism in those years
Only problem is he just can't tell different between Muslim and Terrorist so he just treating entire of Islam as enemy which is why he regret of this when he said that
@@tiglishnobody8750 it’s just a comic book not a civil rights declaration, there’s a lot of people with more influence than Frank Miller on the media that said worse things about muslims than a comic book but you can’t see any retaliation for them, but Miller after a long time it’s still hated for Holy terror, Tough bubble festival in UK was the perfect example, they uninvited Miller because a muslim female writer said that Miller hates muslims, and he’s still getting backlash because of holy terror after more than ten years
He's not a 'distant memory of the past'. You're not even old enough to watch him rise, fail, rise again and fall on his ass. So what. He's just an artist under a microscope and you obviously have no idea what being a real artist means.
all went downhill once he made superman bone wonder woman
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Neal Adams was a legend. I saw him at 2 local comic book conventions in New Orleans and got some signed prints. I expected to see him again before he unexpectedly died of pneumonia. Adams' art style inspired a lot of later artists including Jim Lee. Frank Miller has done a lot of my favorite comics like Dark Knight Returns and the Sin City comics. I had one Sin City comic book where Marv searches and rescues a kidnapped girl in the backdrop of a snowing Christmas Eve. Miller did the art with white ink on black paper and the story had no words at all. I was shocked when Miller put out Holy Terror and by the wacky stuff in All-Star Batman and Robin. I didn't read either of them, just read about it online in message boards. I'm glad Miller has since admitted regret for that crazy stuff.
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I will takes Miller’s stories and writings over the current crop of garbage any day!
Then you need to read more comics. Hey. I am reading comics since 1980. I am not a milennial. And I can tell you boom studios is making some of the best comics out there. Power rangers is a masterpiece. And their crossovers are gold. Specially the ones with godzilla. Trust me on this one. There are much better things than frank Miller. 😊
Yeah times have changed. The comic book industry isn't the same as it used to be. Nowadays, a lot of top talent are dispersed around the place and some even just opt to make their own titles. One of my favorite examples would be Daniel Warren Johnson. He's relatively new but quickly made his mark drawing and writing different comics for others and for himself. He even was brought on to write a black label Wonder Woman comic and now he's the one handling the current Transformers run at Skybound.
Alls I know is Frank Miller looks way too old for 67. I don't think I've seen anyone else age this badly. Like, bro looks older than Jim Shooter who's 72
Alcohol is a heavy burden to bear
Alcohol and other drugs
Alcohol and bigotry will do that.
Listen I know I probably stand with very few but I absolutely loved All-Star Batman and Robin! With Jim Lee artwork it was just fabulous! So what if it didn’t go along with your view of Batman. I wasn’t aware The Dark knight Returns fit the mold for typical Batman. Having said that I really wish we would have gotten the final issue planned.
Neal Adams was an ARTIST.
…Neal Adams was also a writer.
@@nightshadeii9248 true, but it’s misleading to call him a writer - I’d called him an artist principally, or artist/writer.
@@hisalexness8478 This is true.
his racism was always there... I mean, "subhuman" mutants that are super strong, ultra violent, and can't be reasoned with? 🤔
I would've picked Leo but then again Mikey is the Battle Nexus Champion
Frank Miller has a very unique way of drawing people very cool he was a great artist and writer . But misunderstood . But comics were never meant for children it hide itself in super heroes for children to spread propaganda .