at that time, the language was named " flamish " , not dutch
@MonsieurChapeauАй бұрын
11:39 what a beautiful song at the, the video does it good job of conveying the worldview of the time through books of hours
@user-ie1tz5rm8x2 ай бұрын
I used to get 6 candy bars fir a quarter ,osco drugs...
@neskebeks3 ай бұрын
Het knappe aan het boek van Hilde van Mieghem vind ik dat ze qua vorm en taal dicht bij de personages is gebleven en dat ze zich niet heeft laten verleiden tot schoonschrijverij om de literaire wereld te pleasen. Dat de recensies die ik zag allen door mannen geschreven zijn vind ik vreemd bij zulk een vrouwenboek. Ik dacht :’Wow, eindelijk een boek over de WOII vanuit vrouwelijk perspectief.’✨👏🏾
@JelMain3 ай бұрын
I've worked with Till Holger Borchert resetting the context of van Eyck's Mystic Lamb / Levensbron against Dufay's L'Homme Arme as the quadrivium facets of Jan van Ruusbroec's van het geetelijken tabernakel. The context is in Professor Bernard Guenee's biography of Cardinal Pierre d'Ailly, where Ruusbroec's posthumous collection lands on Jean Gerson's desk for posthumous imprimatur - he notifies his mentor d'Ailly, and they realise that inverting the power structure of the Papal Concilium to restore Supremacy is needful. This fits HRE needs, so they convene the Council of Constance, and the HRE Burgundian Vassals team up with England to destroy Valois at Agincourt. Everything's on hold during Martin V's papacy, but when he's passed, the Windesheim graduate Eugenius IV takes up the ball, which is why there's a 50 year gap.
@Laurentio313Ай бұрын
The first sentence is probably the most extraordinary sentence I've ever read.
@JelMainАй бұрын
@@Laurentio313 Fine. I came upon it working on the rationale for the RC Eucharistic Renewal of the late 19th Century, when the last asset of the body behind it imploded on our neighbourhood. The foundress' hiistory, signed, came into my hands, and pointed straight back at Pope Eugenius IV, which invoked Dufay's Papal Coronation Anthem Ecclesie Militate, Church Take Arms!, putting a crusade against the Ottoman threat to the HRE Austro-Hungarian vassals on the table. He followed it up with L'Homme Arme, the greatest hit of all time, with around 80 remixes - Sir Karl Jenkins' Armed Man is currently #3 on ClassicFM's all-time Top 300. I then had a firm pointer towards the Levensbron in the Prado, which clearly spoke the same language, and the recent revalidation of the work based on the dendrochronology, putting it in the Parral at the same time van Eyck was on mission. We may have a lost original here, as it's visually about the same size as Eugenius' Eucharistic Chapel on Rue des Sols in Brussels. This was demolished in 1955, but not before an exact copy was built on Rue van Maerlant in Brussels: it's now the European Commission's chapel. There's probably a Doctorate on offer on the subject of van Eyck the Diplomat, if anyone's interested, go talk to Till. Both opuses are contemporary and matched Ruusbroec's Spiritual Tabernacle, leaving the author open: Professor Laura Smoller pointed me towards d'Ailly and Professor Bernard Scouller's biography in Beyond Church and State. Ruusbroec passed the ball in two directions, Gerardus Groot, Windesheim, Eugenius, Devotio Moderna, Enlightenment, and in his writings, Jean Gerson for theological placet. Gerson alerted d'Ailly, and he found common cause with the HRE. I'm currently researching the family, as Joan of Arc, who sinks the entire project, is from the same lineage. Till's counterpart for Dufay is Yale's Professor Craig Wright, in his The Maze and the Warrior. In 2020, he shifted from History of Music to head their new Genius School, and searching for the truth of my own persona led me to read his The Hidden Habits of Genius, and tick most of the boxes: as I played fair and demonstrated how his own work was part of a far wider vision, and considering I've a decent share of the 2012 Nobel Peace Prize, it's likely I qualify.
@mijntjederouwe87003 ай бұрын
💙
@araucariapasquale13 ай бұрын
What a wonderful production. Thank you.
@JB-yq9iw11 ай бұрын
❤️
@lloydcoleman6889 Жыл бұрын
'Promosm'
@filmlover542 Жыл бұрын
Very informative, nicely presented video. However, I wanted to have some information about the style the floral illuminations, initials, technique, materials used, and also to know about the binding process, not ONLY, exclusively about miniatures.! Unfortunately this part was completely ignored by the creators of this video.
@JelMain3 ай бұрын
The British Library runs a basic bookbinding day course, based around their restoration workshop. You can see from the spine it's conventionally bound, which may be anachronistic. Also The Archaeology of Medieval Bookbinding by J. A. Szirmai
@santhithielemans2795 Жыл бұрын
Hey lieve gast.. jij bent zo mooi en zo lief.. ik ben jaloers op jouw vriend.
@tammyleeder1176 Жыл бұрын
I am always pulled to the Book of Hours from Bruges at the Museum of Art in Columbia, SC. I really am enjoying getting some History on this Book. Not just sitting behind a case trying to figure it out. I do love walking thru their 27 galleries
@spackretired7 ай бұрын
Was hat dieses hervorragende Erzeugnis europäischer Kultur in den USA zu suchen? Wer hat es gestohlen und dorthin gebracht? Warum wird es nicht zurückgegeben?
@shahryarpouyanrad6987 Жыл бұрын
Een bericht aan Kader Abdollah : Je wist ook niet wat je wilde. Je rolmodel was Che Guevara en Castro, maar je droomde ervan in Amerika te wonen. Rauwe jonge mensen zoals jij waren schadelijk voor de samenleving. jammer genoeg dat jullie ( kader abdollah en ook mensen zoals je ) onze beelden waren . jullie waren gevaarlijk voor de samenleving meneer kader abdollah . jullie begrepen niks van Marx en Engels . Jouw droom was in amerika wonen???? ach , jammer , je bent nog altijd aan het fout! liegen is nog niet genoeg tegen jezelf en deze folk ???? je bent van mij een charlatan! je en mijn broers waren in dezelfde politieke partij , tegen sjah en tegen Amerika en imperialisme jouw droom was dat je in amerika zou kunnen wonen (?) , mijn broers waren eerlijker dan jou en daarom hebben ze hun leven verloren. je kan mooi liegen, kader!!!
@salomemalherbe6772 жыл бұрын
Wonderful !!! Modern society knows little or next to nothing about life during the Middle Ages. Thank you for a lovely bit of historical reality seen through the eyes of this extraordinary Book !! ❤
@mathieuvart2 жыл бұрын
And nowadays, people treat books like shit because it is made cheap and not too costy.
@MH-ms1dg2 жыл бұрын
beautiful! small question: is a noblewoman's hair supposed to be visible when wearing a hennin? i thought no...
@evelienhauwaerts47502 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You are probably right... We were lucky to be able to borrow the dress and head gear from the BBC, who were shooting a production in Bruges, but we didn't borrow their stylist :-) And shaving my forehead was not an option for me :-D
Very nice production and great presentation! I would like to know more about the authors of those books. Was the text in those books always the same and codified for the purposes?
@evelienhauwaerts47502 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The authors: most of these texts are anonymous. There was a set structure, but it allowed for variations (depending on period, region, commissioner...). If you want to learn more about the texts in books of hours, I can recommend reading Time Sanctified: The Book of Hours in Medieval Art and Life (Roger Wieck e.a.), Marking the Hours: English People and their Prayers 1240 - 1570 (Eamon Duffy), and this website: www.medievalist.net/hourstxt/home.htm.
@annemievanhauwermeiren50763 жыл бұрын
Dank u Maud. Heel mooi om je nog eens te horen en te zien!
@annemievanhauwermeiren50763 жыл бұрын
Mijn uitzicht is een inzicht
@ingestock903 жыл бұрын
Ik kijk letterlijk door een voorruit (eigenlijk het raam aan de voorkant van het huis waartegen mijn bureau staat) als vooruitzicht...met kijk op de straat...links, rechts, overkant...meerkeuzezicht...
@johanmayeur9873 жыл бұрын
mijn uitzicht is een spaghettibord dat koud wordt / smakelijk straks ;)
@daemonscriptoris66683 жыл бұрын
Wow, wat een pracht! Bedankt voor de presentatie.
@kiekiek3 жыл бұрын
Bregje is met zichzelf in de knoop. Complexe vrouw die teveel de schuld geeft aan haar omgeving, specifiek mannen.
@reymicroc3 жыл бұрын
gibs me dat book
@andreasgieswinkel80824 жыл бұрын
Moet je wel even vertellen wat je doet. Zo snap ik er niets van, ook al ziet het er mooi uit
@melodycrickett2404 жыл бұрын
Super!
@leenlippevelde21685 жыл бұрын
En de boeken van Siv Lirpa? Hoe sorteer je die?
@Bibbrugge5 жыл бұрын
ook op kleur, maar dan van achter naar voor.
@BrakeJiggs6 жыл бұрын
What about the a b c d e f g instead of Monday Tuesday Wednesday, and what about the letters before that
@Navili5024 жыл бұрын
These were known as dominical letters, and they could be used to calculate which day was Sunday. If the first day of the month was a Tuesday, the calendar’s user would have to remember that A = Tuesday, B = Wednesday, C = Thursday, and so on for the rest of the month.
@tookclosely54806 жыл бұрын
thank you
@jonahspeelt8898 жыл бұрын
goed
@petermullaert30158 жыл бұрын
Prachtig in beeld gebracht, sfeervol geacteerd en muzikaal begeleid. Laten we hopen dat deze montage de interesse van velen kan wekken. Proficiat.
@hugovranckx49708 жыл бұрын
Ik heb weer iets interessants bijgeleerd, dankjewel
@legofanguyvid8 жыл бұрын
whats the first piece of music?
@TheSunship77710 жыл бұрын
the music is beautiful. What was the last piece?
@evelienhauwaerts475010 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The last piece is 'Wel up elc sin die vruecht begaert', performed by Pandora² and Ultreya (www.duo-ultreya.be/nederlands/muziek/cd's.html). It is an adaptation of one of the poems or songs in the Middle Dutch Gruuthuse manuscript.
@JelMain3 ай бұрын
@@evelienhauwaerts4750 Guaranteed to get Ruusbroec narked! Hadewijk's circle...
@bluntobjct11 жыл бұрын
belgian people are very clean
@pabloalvez9155 жыл бұрын
True and discreet.
@DrMcFacekick11 жыл бұрын
They put it on a pillow but aren't using gloves?
@kungfuman16555 жыл бұрын
DrMcFacekick They use clean and dry hands to carefully hold each manuscript
@fakiirification2 жыл бұрын
gloves are incorrect for fragile old paper and parchment. you need to be able to feel the material to know how much pressure you are applying. gloves take away the tactile feedback which makes the human fingertip the most sensitive detecting device.
@GrumpyOldTroll5 ай бұрын
@@fakiirification Wait, really? It's long made me cringe when seeing people on TV shows manipulate old manuscripts with ungloved hands. Sometimes one sees them using white gloves, which I had come to assume was the right thing to do.
@michaelvaughn20913 ай бұрын
Wearing gloves was accepted practice until several years ago when research revealed that gloves could actually lead to damage to the most fragile of manuscripts, and that little to no harm was posed by handling these materials with clean bare hands. (Most libraries and repositories of rare books stipulate that hands should be washed at regular intervals when interacting with them.)
@GrumpyOldTroll3 ай бұрын
@@michaelvaughn2091 Interesting, thank you.
@ladyarwynn11 жыл бұрын
Very informative and wonderful, thank you for this production.
@levelien11 жыл бұрын
For the English version of this documentary, search KZread for 'books of hours Bruges'.
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Well made video! Decade old & still low views.
at that time, the language was named " flamish " , not dutch
11:39 what a beautiful song at the, the video does it good job of conveying the worldview of the time through books of hours
I used to get 6 candy bars fir a quarter ,osco drugs...
Het knappe aan het boek van Hilde van Mieghem vind ik dat ze qua vorm en taal dicht bij de personages is gebleven en dat ze zich niet heeft laten verleiden tot schoonschrijverij om de literaire wereld te pleasen. Dat de recensies die ik zag allen door mannen geschreven zijn vind ik vreemd bij zulk een vrouwenboek. Ik dacht :’Wow, eindelijk een boek over de WOII vanuit vrouwelijk perspectief.’✨👏🏾
I've worked with Till Holger Borchert resetting the context of van Eyck's Mystic Lamb / Levensbron against Dufay's L'Homme Arme as the quadrivium facets of Jan van Ruusbroec's van het geetelijken tabernakel. The context is in Professor Bernard Guenee's biography of Cardinal Pierre d'Ailly, where Ruusbroec's posthumous collection lands on Jean Gerson's desk for posthumous imprimatur - he notifies his mentor d'Ailly, and they realise that inverting the power structure of the Papal Concilium to restore Supremacy is needful. This fits HRE needs, so they convene the Council of Constance, and the HRE Burgundian Vassals team up with England to destroy Valois at Agincourt. Everything's on hold during Martin V's papacy, but when he's passed, the Windesheim graduate Eugenius IV takes up the ball, which is why there's a 50 year gap.
The first sentence is probably the most extraordinary sentence I've ever read.
@@Laurentio313 Fine. I came upon it working on the rationale for the RC Eucharistic Renewal of the late 19th Century, when the last asset of the body behind it imploded on our neighbourhood. The foundress' hiistory, signed, came into my hands, and pointed straight back at Pope Eugenius IV, which invoked Dufay's Papal Coronation Anthem Ecclesie Militate, Church Take Arms!, putting a crusade against the Ottoman threat to the HRE Austro-Hungarian vassals on the table. He followed it up with L'Homme Arme, the greatest hit of all time, with around 80 remixes - Sir Karl Jenkins' Armed Man is currently #3 on ClassicFM's all-time Top 300. I then had a firm pointer towards the Levensbron in the Prado, which clearly spoke the same language, and the recent revalidation of the work based on the dendrochronology, putting it in the Parral at the same time van Eyck was on mission. We may have a lost original here, as it's visually about the same size as Eugenius' Eucharistic Chapel on Rue des Sols in Brussels. This was demolished in 1955, but not before an exact copy was built on Rue van Maerlant in Brussels: it's now the European Commission's chapel. There's probably a Doctorate on offer on the subject of van Eyck the Diplomat, if anyone's interested, go talk to Till. Both opuses are contemporary and matched Ruusbroec's Spiritual Tabernacle, leaving the author open: Professor Laura Smoller pointed me towards d'Ailly and Professor Bernard Scouller's biography in Beyond Church and State. Ruusbroec passed the ball in two directions, Gerardus Groot, Windesheim, Eugenius, Devotio Moderna, Enlightenment, and in his writings, Jean Gerson for theological placet. Gerson alerted d'Ailly, and he found common cause with the HRE. I'm currently researching the family, as Joan of Arc, who sinks the entire project, is from the same lineage. Till's counterpart for Dufay is Yale's Professor Craig Wright, in his The Maze and the Warrior. In 2020, he shifted from History of Music to head their new Genius School, and searching for the truth of my own persona led me to read his The Hidden Habits of Genius, and tick most of the boxes: as I played fair and demonstrated how his own work was part of a far wider vision, and considering I've a decent share of the 2012 Nobel Peace Prize, it's likely I qualify.
💙
What a wonderful production. Thank you.
❤️
'Promosm'
Very informative, nicely presented video. However, I wanted to have some information about the style the floral illuminations, initials, technique, materials used, and also to know about the binding process, not ONLY, exclusively about miniatures.! Unfortunately this part was completely ignored by the creators of this video.
The British Library runs a basic bookbinding day course, based around their restoration workshop. You can see from the spine it's conventionally bound, which may be anachronistic. Also The Archaeology of Medieval Bookbinding by J. A. Szirmai
Hey lieve gast.. jij bent zo mooi en zo lief.. ik ben jaloers op jouw vriend.
I am always pulled to the Book of Hours from Bruges at the Museum of Art in Columbia, SC. I really am enjoying getting some History on this Book. Not just sitting behind a case trying to figure it out. I do love walking thru their 27 galleries
Was hat dieses hervorragende Erzeugnis europäischer Kultur in den USA zu suchen? Wer hat es gestohlen und dorthin gebracht? Warum wird es nicht zurückgegeben?
Een bericht aan Kader Abdollah : Je wist ook niet wat je wilde. Je rolmodel was Che Guevara en Castro, maar je droomde ervan in Amerika te wonen. Rauwe jonge mensen zoals jij waren schadelijk voor de samenleving. jammer genoeg dat jullie ( kader abdollah en ook mensen zoals je ) onze beelden waren . jullie waren gevaarlijk voor de samenleving meneer kader abdollah . jullie begrepen niks van Marx en Engels . Jouw droom was in amerika wonen???? ach , jammer , je bent nog altijd aan het fout! liegen is nog niet genoeg tegen jezelf en deze folk ???? je bent van mij een charlatan! je en mijn broers waren in dezelfde politieke partij , tegen sjah en tegen Amerika en imperialisme jouw droom was dat je in amerika zou kunnen wonen (?) , mijn broers waren eerlijker dan jou en daarom hebben ze hun leven verloren. je kan mooi liegen, kader!!!
Wonderful !!! Modern society knows little or next to nothing about life during the Middle Ages. Thank you for a lovely bit of historical reality seen through the eyes of this extraordinary Book !! ❤
And nowadays, people treat books like shit because it is made cheap and not too costy.
beautiful! small question: is a noblewoman's hair supposed to be visible when wearing a hennin? i thought no...
Thank you! You are probably right... We were lucky to be able to borrow the dress and head gear from the BBC, who were shooting a production in Bruges, but we didn't borrow their stylist :-) And shaving my forehead was not an option for me :-D
@@evelienhauwaerts4750 wonderful nevertheless! lovely work!
satanic pagan deception. Jesus is king
Very nice production and great presentation! I would like to know more about the authors of those books. Was the text in those books always the same and codified for the purposes?
Thank you! The authors: most of these texts are anonymous. There was a set structure, but it allowed for variations (depending on period, region, commissioner...). If you want to learn more about the texts in books of hours, I can recommend reading Time Sanctified: The Book of Hours in Medieval Art and Life (Roger Wieck e.a.), Marking the Hours: English People and their Prayers 1240 - 1570 (Eamon Duffy), and this website: www.medievalist.net/hourstxt/home.htm.
Dank u Maud. Heel mooi om je nog eens te horen en te zien!
Mijn uitzicht is een inzicht
Ik kijk letterlijk door een voorruit (eigenlijk het raam aan de voorkant van het huis waartegen mijn bureau staat) als vooruitzicht...met kijk op de straat...links, rechts, overkant...meerkeuzezicht...
mijn uitzicht is een spaghettibord dat koud wordt / smakelijk straks ;)
Wow, wat een pracht! Bedankt voor de presentatie.
Bregje is met zichzelf in de knoop. Complexe vrouw die teveel de schuld geeft aan haar omgeving, specifiek mannen.
gibs me dat book
Moet je wel even vertellen wat je doet. Zo snap ik er niets van, ook al ziet het er mooi uit
Super!
En de boeken van Siv Lirpa? Hoe sorteer je die?
ook op kleur, maar dan van achter naar voor.
What about the a b c d e f g instead of Monday Tuesday Wednesday, and what about the letters before that
These were known as dominical letters, and they could be used to calculate which day was Sunday. If the first day of the month was a Tuesday, the calendar’s user would have to remember that A = Tuesday, B = Wednesday, C = Thursday, and so on for the rest of the month.
thank you
goed
Prachtig in beeld gebracht, sfeervol geacteerd en muzikaal begeleid. Laten we hopen dat deze montage de interesse van velen kan wekken. Proficiat.
Ik heb weer iets interessants bijgeleerd, dankjewel
whats the first piece of music?
the music is beautiful. What was the last piece?
Thank you! The last piece is 'Wel up elc sin die vruecht begaert', performed by Pandora² and Ultreya (www.duo-ultreya.be/nederlands/muziek/cd's.html). It is an adaptation of one of the poems or songs in the Middle Dutch Gruuthuse manuscript.
@@evelienhauwaerts4750 Guaranteed to get Ruusbroec narked! Hadewijk's circle...
belgian people are very clean
True and discreet.
They put it on a pillow but aren't using gloves?
DrMcFacekick They use clean and dry hands to carefully hold each manuscript
gloves are incorrect for fragile old paper and parchment. you need to be able to feel the material to know how much pressure you are applying. gloves take away the tactile feedback which makes the human fingertip the most sensitive detecting device.
@@fakiirification Wait, really? It's long made me cringe when seeing people on TV shows manipulate old manuscripts with ungloved hands. Sometimes one sees them using white gloves, which I had come to assume was the right thing to do.
Wearing gloves was accepted practice until several years ago when research revealed that gloves could actually lead to damage to the most fragile of manuscripts, and that little to no harm was posed by handling these materials with clean bare hands. (Most libraries and repositories of rare books stipulate that hands should be washed at regular intervals when interacting with them.)
@@michaelvaughn2091 Interesting, thank you.
Very informative and wonderful, thank you for this production.
For the English version of this documentary, search KZread for 'books of hours Bruges'.
hij stinkt naar piepie en kaka