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  @vireoboss82905 сағат бұрын

  just say that youre mad that momentum is not 20% atdead on the other builds cuz Havoc right now is a better BFA version of the sepc which everyone loved expect the 20 ppl on the DH discord

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  @VooDooSaurus5 сағат бұрын

  @@vireoboss8290 the spec has fundamental problems regardless of what build us better. We’ve returned back to a sinful brand playstyle which is *not* good, except it’s much more punishing and the soul mechanic is terrible. Would I prefer inertia? Yes, but my problems don’t lie solely with that, and hand waving everything away because you’re happy inertia is a dead build is problematic

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  @victorviewer15 сағат бұрын

  a rework in 10.2 wasnt enough

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  @VooDooSaurus15 сағат бұрын

  @@victorviewer they fixed one issue and gave us a bunch of passives, through which the talent tree then fell apart once our tier got taken away. It was never a “rework” and was roughly 1/4 what every other spec has gotten. On top of that, our hero trees are fucking MISERABLE

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  @georgesofoulis2716Күн бұрын

  First time in years i aint hyped about a new expansion. It feels they are clueless about everything anymore and it shows

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  @PossiblyJustARandomGuyКүн бұрын

  Am I missing something here? Why are you all so mad about not getting touch ups or a rework? You literally just got one last season. How much more change are you expecting?

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  @VooDooSaurusКүн бұрын

  @@PossiblyJustARandomGuy you’re very out of the loop, havoc is in a miserable state and the “rework” was super minor and basically didn’t change anything, it was incredibly bare bones and once we lost our tier from s3, we were left with a HOST of problems. Ontop of that, both of our hero trees are pure garbage and havoc feels terrible to play in War within (it’s damage is good but I don’t really care about tuning at this stage)

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  @PossiblyJustARandomGuy22 сағат бұрын

  @@VooDooSaurus so is the main issue that it feels bad to press throw glaive?

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  @svarog8253Күн бұрын

  DH and rogue has the same dev or something? both are crap lol so blend and uninspiring

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  @VooDooSaurusКүн бұрын

  @@svarog8253 they did but the dev got moved early in development, Idek if we have any rn

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  @That_kind_of_orcКүн бұрын

  At least dh didn't get cucked like ret I feel sorry for them, suffering for eternity until DF rework and now they got nerfed without any compensation they are more scarred than darkest souls of maw

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  @VooDooSaurusКүн бұрын

  @@That_kind_of_orc I think ret will be fine losing access to their second raid buff

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  @That_kind_of_orcКүн бұрын

  @@VooDooSaurus I just don't see any reason to pick ret anymore if there is already holy or prot in the group and there are other specs that can do crazy damage and bring something useful alongside I should just pick them instead of ret. Ret might do some ultra damage but that's not gonna last forever they will eventually be nerfed and then what

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  @JediknightbongКүн бұрын

  the no update this round just means they are working hard on a big fix 🤡

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  @jcvm8915Күн бұрын

  Brooo miserable talent tree

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  @azstatikКүн бұрын

  I would relax a bit about the hero talents. I'm not saying stop talking about it, cuz havoc needs the help, but shaman didn't like their hero talents either, and it's starting to get fixed, so try to stay positive.

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  @Obsidian0SkyКүн бұрын

  You know its bad when voodoo is SPELLING DEMON so he doesn't curse ROFL. holy shit this is not making me want to come back at all.

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  @VooDooSaurusКүн бұрын

  @@Obsidian0Sky surely it gets better from here right (can’t go lower than the ground!)

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  @heyyoyoho3113Күн бұрын

  GIVE US 3rd SPEC FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. And i will keep posting that comment everytime i see a dh video maybe devs see it and think do something about that.

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  @That_kind_of_orcКүн бұрын

  New void/shadow using spec for dh I'm waiting it would even make perfect sense since Sargeras created burning legion in the first place to resist void because fel works well against the shadow

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  @SacredFelineКүн бұрын

  @@That_kind_of_orc Void Hunter has a nice ring to it

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  @Skafiskafnjak2276Күн бұрын

  @@heyyoyoho3113 no thank you. I’m good with just two.

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  @victorTgamesx1Күн бұрын

  My priest nerf 20% sad

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  @poemz87Күн бұрын

  So every class got rework with new stuff... nothing new for us .... were forgoten guys...

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  @LeumasLSNTVКүн бұрын

  If have get no update soon i should consider to kill myself i think

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  @pimppimppingКүн бұрын

  They are so tunnel visioned on vengeance chabges right now it makes me fear they forgot about havoc

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  @dark9nineКүн бұрын

  They can easily fix the problems heroic talents have by.... REWORKING EVERYTHING! hate that shit!!!!!! FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

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  @MedaralКүн бұрын

  I hope for your sanity there are GOOD havoc changes soon- we prayge

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  @VooDooSaurusКүн бұрын

  @@Medaral you and me both 🙏

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  @colorbowl2237Күн бұрын

  why so mad your doing more damage than dks now

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  @VooDooSaurusКүн бұрын

  @@colorbowl2237 I don’t care about damage the playstyle is absolutely HORRIBLE. tuning is going to bring us down and then it’s going to be absolutely tucked

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  @pimppimppingКүн бұрын

  Dmg is irrelevant right now since its beta, numbers can be tuned easily, but the talent trees and spells dictate flow(how comfortable a class plays) and dk tree is pretty good now but havoc trees are pretty bad if you understand what im saying

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  @colorbowl2237Күн бұрын

  @@pimppimpping na they just killed our fun shit so were back to being shit playstyle its chill tho

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  @ItsBolkКүн бұрын

  This is some good takes, rotation is like food not everyone likes it, 😢😿😭

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  @pimppimppingКүн бұрын

  ​@@colorbowl2237i mean if your ok with pressing 3 buttons all day everyday do you, i aint playing that shit

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  @ItsBolkКүн бұрын

  You need to be madder

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  @VooDooSaurusКүн бұрын

  @@ItsBolk here’s like hours worth of footage on this channel of me being mad, idk if I have it in me anymore

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  @russbakrКүн бұрын

  Yea so no double sigil .. sigh was fun while it lasted

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  @bpredden2 күн бұрын

  1) Make Reaver's Mark a buff on us instead of a debuff on a single target 2) Allow the buff to be extended past 20s, if the same type (15% vs 30%, resetting if you go the other way)-can reduce time of buff to compensate These things give us time to do other stuff than chaos strike while making this doable in M+ or dealing with adds. 3) Maybe some interaction with Glaive talents; maybe make Fury of Aldrachi a choice node that casting BD second essentially does the DF tier set

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  @VooDooSaurus2 күн бұрын

  @@bpredden I don’t think buff extension is something that should exist, it’s already like sinful brand we don’t need to push it that way MORE. Likewise, if chaos strike gave you the buff, you’d just always take the 30% amp and never use the glaive slashes, so I don’t think that’s necessarily a solution. The biggest issue is just that we have TWO amps with it, removing mark and replacing it with a big ST hit would go so far in making it play better

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  @bpreddenКүн бұрын

  @@VooDooSaurus how does this work in M+ with Reaver's Mark being a debuff on a single mob vs a buff on us? I understand focus macros and such; but is the expectation really to never change targets in M+?

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  @Medaral3 күн бұрын

  Will we ever see flex venge on stream even through lvling content

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  @erichyneman30943 күн бұрын

  I keep getting one shot. 8-10 keys

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  @joveonlightbringer96843 күн бұрын

  Much appreciated, although you don't sound too enthused. :D I am still hoping they will equalize the strength of Aldrachi vs Fel-Scarred with tuning passes, so the choice will be flexible based on talent build and playstyle rather than mandated by Blizz tuning.

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  @VooDooSaurus3 күн бұрын

  @@joveonlightbringer9684 I’m unenthused because it’s mostly just the same old stuff and the hero talents are problematic for vengeance too :p

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  @nickolasroper32373 күн бұрын

  I want to play DH so bad, main Brew/WW Monk, in TWW. I felt like I missed out on the best Veng was/could have ever been in season 3-4 of DF only to come into a watered down version in TWW and a mess of a spec for havoc going forward. But with the current way DH is going forward, I think I’ll book mark the class until I see how they are performing in season 1 comparatively.

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  @lSuXeRl3 күн бұрын

  Yo, i just want ask because i am now watching some videos about DH tank and you telling us that the glaive hero talents make tons of damage, after this video i watched another from some youtube called Marcelians and he is telling in video that in Beta this build make really low damage, after dungeon he got more dmg with normal glaves that with empowered one. I am now little bit confused

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  @VooDooSaurus3 күн бұрын

  @@lSuXeRl he doesn’t know what makes this powerful, Marcellion is great at a cursory covering of each spec, but he doesn’t do a deep dive (mostly because he can’t due to time) The damage itself doesn’t come from the glaive, it comes from the 30% damage amp you put on a target, and the 30% damage buff you also get. These *dont* show up on damage meters, so if you don’t know, you’ll miss it. Aldrachi is quite far ahead, but not because the glaive itself deals the damage

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  @lSuXeRl3 күн бұрын

  @@VooDooSaurus thank you for answer! And can i ask if you think that aldrachi is more for raid(ST) and the fel is more for M+(aoe) or the aldrachi is better in every scenario

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  @fcsoce33753 күн бұрын

  @@lSuXeRl Aldrachi is every circumstance at the moment

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  @Rockforce803 күн бұрын

  Suffering together! Thanks for this VooDoo. Fel Scarred needs salvation for both specs and I hope we get it without the solution just being flat aldrachi nerfs. Extra charge of spite(decree) back onto illum as well as de-nerfing silence cd would be great. Also change soul rending to 1 point since it got cut in half would be nice. Really anything at all at this point haha. Hopefully we'll see some good news this week in addition to what will surely be 3 more mage paragraphs

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  @Kngkat3 күн бұрын

  I swapped mains to Havoc dh in s3 and have had a blast, but i think it's time to swap back to Warlock main.

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  @simpvanas3 күн бұрын

  I wish they would add the Fiery Soul legendary from Shadowlands into the VDH tree and make it work with Spirit Bomb too. As well as Recrimination tier set from season 2 of DF, I'd like to see that in the tree too.

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  @VooDooSaurus3 күн бұрын

  @@simpvanas they gotta do a lot imo both havoc and vengeance’s trees are devoid of interesting things

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  @jesturmi3 күн бұрын

  DH in general is prob the least interesting class so far when it comes to spell effects and class fantasy, main DH since late legion

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  @VooDooSaurus3 күн бұрын

  @@jesturmi the hero trees just really don’t add much

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  @n-hunter13494 күн бұрын

  Who cares about damage when you play as a tank? I don’t see anyone playing Aldrachi Reaver in Mythic Plus .

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  @zuralani13 күн бұрын

  Tank damage matters a lot in high keys

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  @VooDooSaurus3 күн бұрын

  @@n-hunter1349 vengeance as a tank is almost entirely predicated on leaching back it’s damage through frailty. Aldrachi also just summons a ton of souls and gives you the shield, which Is imo better than the passive fel scarred stuff. But damage really does matter a lot more

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  @demianpelos4 күн бұрын

  So all the same just added some talents in the middle... Lame. Everyone will copy paste same builds.... Making talents by points really didn't change anything from when you could choose some Ina bar....

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  @FelFireGazeTV4 күн бұрын

  I have been following those beta videos you make and observing the gradual transformation. How the hopeful full of suggestions young Voodoo slowly turns to the Dark Side as the expansion approaches. I feel ya man, you make great points throughout the video. Havoc is indeed 8 years old but the first time devs really experimented with the spec was Dragonflight and they introduced a lot of cool things on launch and in 10.2. The bad thing is that they don't seem to follow the feedback provided to keep improving in the War Within. The spec still needs some core mechanics to come up to speed with other classes.

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  @moondough12794 күн бұрын

  Think you just domain expanded my mind, with the idea of removing some of the 2 point nodes. And it's just such a simple change, leave em' as is but just make it a 1 point node so we can actually get gameplay aspects out of the talent tree. Be it fel barrage or essence break or w/e. Or as you mention later in the video moving these gameplay aspects further up the tree so we can take them, and then have capstone talents that affect said ability. Extremely good video! I'll come back to your channel once the expac rolls around because it seems to me you're fairly frigging bright when it comes to DH <3

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  @VooDooSaurus4 күн бұрын

  @@moondough1279 there’s a lot of simple changes that can do a LOT for the tree, LCK giving another charge of eyebeam doing some work there as well! Hopefully something happens but we’ll see

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  @moondough12794 күн бұрын

  @@VooDooSaurus for sure, start by moving disrupt and consume magic into baseline, so we free 2 talent points in the base tree. Then DH as a whole gets something. As for eyebeam, I have for a time wanted stacks on BD but then I feel like it wont really be doing much. Because we'd use the charge and for the rest of the fight it wouldnt really do much because we'd use it reasonably often on cd so we keep it in line with Meta. So what if instead of a stack, we get the legion headpiece where we get cdr on eyebeam?

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  @MSalem77774 күн бұрын

  Not sure why you’re married to the idea of BD/DS having to be THE most damaging ability.

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  @VooDooSaurus4 күн бұрын

  @@MSalem7777 because it’s designed to be that way? It’s our short cooldown high damage spender, think rampage for fury warrior. If BD/DS isn’t our highest damage per execution time button, and there’s no other benefits to it (which they RARELY ever do, s3 Dflight tier is the only one) we just won’t push the button

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  @MSalem77774 күн бұрын

  @@VooDooSaurus iirc the difference between CS and BD in Legion wasn’t as much as it is now, and things were fine. BD was just the AoE attack. If that’s the design philosophy, I don’t see a real problem with it, even though I agree with your other points about the soul collection, the 30% buff, the haste scaling, and the crappy visuals.

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  @jasonmarino35794 күн бұрын

  Just tie everything to Spectral Sight! Wouldn't that make for a fun and engaging playstyle? (Sarcasm obviously) As my raid teams dedicated dh I'm mentally preparing for Shadowlands 2.0. Get a 90% parse and get smoked by players with lower apm doing way more dam.

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  @VooDooSaurus4 күн бұрын

  @@jasonmarino3579 will be a higher apm thing, log reviews will end up just being “oh you didn’t push chaos strike enough and missed like 100 casts of it”

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  @jasonmarino35794 күн бұрын

  @@VooDooSaurus yep, giving me s2 of dragonflight vibes where we have super high apm and get punished harshly for missing anything

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  @Baloshz4 күн бұрын

  Support that guy for the amazing work

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  @JohnnyFiction4 күн бұрын

  #MakeFelBarrageGreatAgain

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  @6Churches4 күн бұрын

  Good coverage: Heres mine; The Malevolence Demon Hunter An heroic ranged pet class that reflects the true scope of the Illidari under the Slayer. Uses Broken in open world content as a tank pet and a Shivarra in raids as dps pet. Gains dps buffs when summoning a new hero-pet, these are Satyr Abilites include glaive throws with bleeds, ranged Fel spells, summoning demonic mirrors that enhance eye beams, enchanting weapons dropped by their minions in combat, finally arcane magics are enabled by allied Coilskar naga savants that lend the Malevolence Demon Hunter their arcane prowess

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  @zachkoa4 күн бұрын

  +1 for the algorithm. Appreciate your vids man and all your testing 🙏

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  @riiann4 күн бұрын

  Spec tree has too many Immo Aura and Glaive talents.

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  @jesturmi4 күн бұрын

  demonsurge should have atleast a big ass explosion as an effect

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  @Lichmorge4 күн бұрын

  14:30 people have said this since the rework. Now, they aren't going to do a rework to the spec tree because DH got one super recently.