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Just Grillin Outdoor Living is Florida's premier outdoor living design-build firm and grill superstore. Check out our channel or website to learn about outdoor living and see all the ways our team can help. We post videos regularly promoting a small portion of the work our team completes plus product reviews and tips on grilling.
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Yikes, clean the grates dude!
Thanks for the great breakdown! Looking to buy one now - it's between this exact one - OR for $200 more, Broil King 5 burner Regal S590 Pro... Could you give me your thoughts! The Broil King will be much bigger, same grates... what do you think???
We don't represent Broil King. Part of that reasoning is the quality is not there for us. I think you'll have the Weber longer (with proper care) and that Weber is the better brand when it comes to customer support. Broil King wouldn't be in business still if people didn't buy their products and have good experiences with them. We don't like dealing with upset people or warranty claims so I prefer Weber. Rarely do we have this problem, or any problem for that matter, when Weber grills go out the door. Depends on the type of shopper you are too. I usually look for consistency and reliability in products. I want something to last a long time and cost me as little to maintain as possible during that time period. Weber has a great reputation for this and Broil King, from what I've read and heard, has work to do in this category. The Broil King has flashier features at a relatively inexpensive cost difference. The question really becomes do you see the grill lasting as long as the Weber? Because if you want this to last 10 years and you get 5 years, it's going to cost you much more than the nominal price difference. - Sam
Nice
Incredible video! This was exactly what I needed to purchase one of these bad boys. Very much appreciated!
You're welcome. Glad we could help.
Ones an actual thermometer and works for years, the other is an app company making parts that last a week. Go to kitchens and see what’s used
@@Gapines23 Don’t understand your last sentence. Both companies make great products. Everything I have from both companies is 3+ years old and all work just fine. I’ve replaced probes from both but that’s normal and happens with any brand of thermometer.
Is the Searwood XL somewhat insulated? Living in the north and love to smoke in the winter. Often under freezing temps. (25F to 32F) I hate my blanket and would like to upgrade.
@@hugolemay1559 it’s definitely heftier than what the Smokefire was. However, I would say you probably would still need that. Yoder Smokers makes arguably the most insulated pellet grill and many users in cold weather places still use an insulated cover jacket with that. I don’t live in a cold enough place to really deal with that so it’s one of the few things experience wise I can’t speak to personally. - Sam
What's the difference between the SP-E-335 Mfr # 35413301 and the SP-E-335 Mfr # 1500581 ?
@@sparkzaddy I responded to your comment on our other video with the answer. - Sam
@@justgrillin Thanks again man!
Summer 2024 here - What's the difference between this one (MFR# 35413301 ) and the $150 cheaper SP-E-335 (MFR # 1500581) ?
@@sparkzaddy the more expensive model is the exact model in this video. Has all of those features. The cheaper one is the 2024 model version but some of the features are scaled back. The top rack is just a standard warming rack. The right side shelf is not oversized. The LP tank scale gauge is not on the grill. The doors have inlay handles versus the outer handles. The wheels are a different style. Thanks for watching. - Sam
@@justgrillin Thanks dude you are awesome!
I do a lot of grilling in the winter and I'm in N Dakota. How cold will this grill operate, I know the Traeger won't run below 30 degrees?
Weber doesn't really specify an exact temp range. It says that the screen might not turn if it's really cold on so you would just hit the knob to let the grill run at 200 degrees for a few minutes and then it should start. They say it should run in cold weather, just might take longer to get to the set temperature. I lived in Sioux City, Iowa for a few years. Probably not as cold as it gets in your area but I know the type of cold you're referencing. You might need to invest in a heat-rated insulated blanket to drape over the grill. I know it gets below zero pretty quickly with the wind chill. Yoder Smokers might be your best option. Those are built in the Midwest and there's plenty of people in the upper plains and central lowlands with their grills. - Sam
As a half Korean this is nothing close to Kalbi. Don't use or follow this recipe. It's 110% wrong.
Is this not the right type of beef short rib? Yeah, we don't use the soy marinade but there's nothing wrong with this recipe. The short ribs grill up well and there's plenty of flavor.
Does this grill still come with the expandable top rack in 2024?
It does not. Here's our 2024 breakdown of all the models: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qpmi15Kaj7uzZKg.html
My question is how do these grills compare to a nepolien grill. Which are cheaper and have better features
Have you been to see the new Summit in a store yet? The new Summit would need to be compared to the Prestige Pro series. The build quality of the Summit is really beefed up from previous models. The appearance is also much better than the Napoleon models. The Summit is very clean and modern looking. The top-down infrared burner on the Summit is a better feature than the Napoleon infrared burner built into the side shelf. The Summit is giving you more cooking space to sear and you aren't going to be as prone to the wind blowing it out. The rotisserie tucks away easily on the Summit compared to the Napoleon. The Weber has the cross-bar burner which is a nice feature if you live in a windy area. If a burner goes out, it would automatically re-light as long as the knob is still twisted on. That's nice to not have to worry about a burner blowing out. The Weber Crafted Frame comes with the Summit and you can add a lot of different accessories to cook with. You can also get a second frame kit and double up on using multiple accessories at the same time. The top-down lighting in the Summit is really strong and nice. I like the lights on the Weber better than a lot of other fancy grills actually. Any warranty experience years down the road would be better with the dedicated US-based support line for Summit owners. You can use it for recipe and cooking help too. You can ask how to use certain features of the grill better. The Summit is also made in Illinois still. Napoleon makes their products in a few different places and doesn't specify exactly where certain ones are made. Those are some of the major differences. This grill isn't for everyone and I say that in the video. Weber still makes a solid product and most Summit owners will have their grills for at least 10+ years. Weber's are known for their longevity and durability. But that only matters if you take care of what you purchase. If you are the type to buy a new grill every 5 years (not saying you are but we have plenty of clients that do this) spending more doesn't make sense. I don't know enough about the longevity of the Napoleon brand as they are somewhat newer to selling in the States. - Sam
@justgrillin look I can buy a high end nepolien grill with a rear infrared burner for rotisserie for under 2500 dollars. It comes with everything the summit comes with. For 4000 dollars does the summit come with a cover? Because if not huge downfall for the price.
Ok maybe do a comparison between the nepolien pro elite 665 and the weber summit you might convince me. But I can get the nepolien for 3700 dollars on bbg guys website with cover and other add ons. What comes with the weber since it costs more up front
@@nicholasdemarest4254 The 665 is essentially the same size grill as the Summit. Both have 5 main burners. The Summit has a little bit stronger heat output per burner than the Napoleon. You have the adjustable top rack on the Summit with the larger sear zone. The rotisserie tucks away and has back hooks and cabinet hooks for easy storage. All the wheels on the Summit are swivel casters so it for sure moves around easier. The lighting system is better on the Summit unless you like the colored lights The grease management system on the Summit is easier to clean and care for too. If you're getting Liquid Propane (LP) the Summit has the tank scale gauge whereas the Napoleon does not. Again, you have the dedicated support hotline with the Summit. The cover is not included with the Summit. I can't speak to Napoleon longevity but I know when we send someone home with a Weber that I'm not going to get any bad calls about something messed up. Everything isn't always going to match up exactly in price. I equate comparing these brands to power tools. Makita, Milwaukee, Dewalt, Bosch, Ridgid, Ryobi, etc... all make the same type of tool. How well they perform and hold up over time differs though. Sometimes a good deal is a good deal and other times it ends up not. I would say part of your cost difference would be buying from a brand you might trust more versus the other. - Sam
Are either waterproof for rain?
@@turkeyphant not fully. They are just water resistant for a small period of time. So like the example in the video shows that it’s not going to crap out immediately if a storm catches you off guard but if you leave it out in a long rainstorm, that’s where you can have issues.
What happens if mixed
@@ozarad6263 with other pellets? Nothing. Should be fine. It’s an oak base flavor and most pellets use oak as a base mixed with whatever flavor is advertised on the label.
Hey Sam. Solid video. I just purchased an S-325. I chose the stainless steel over the E-325 enameled version as it seemed to be the better option. However if the double sided sear grate is enameled, did I make the wrong choice? Is this adapter really necessary for steaks? We’re a ribeye family.
@@MemphisDC no. If you were to compare the basic porcelain enamel grates to the sear grate, the coating is clearly different. Cast iron heats up better than stainless steel because it holds the heat in better. The stainless grates will clean up better and are much sturdier than the basic cast iron grates. This is probably a 10-year grill for you, if not longer. We find our clients want new cast iron grates in half that time whereas our clients with stainless rarely ever need to replace until it’s time for a new grill. I would use as is and if you feel you need more heat, then the accessory would be worth it in your case. The flat top accessory or full griddle is 100% worth it. It’s my favorite way to prep burgers. Thanks for watching and the kind words. - Sam
@@justgrillin Thanks for the prompt response and explanation. That makes more sense that the sear grate is a different finish that their regular enamel grates. I actually got the 335 grill with the side burner but you sold me on the flat top for the burgers and likely get the sear grill as well. Thanks again!
Very very informative!!!!! Wonderful job!
No wheels on other side? What holds the hopper closed?
@@mikekaderabek4481 fixed legs on one side. The hopper is just a basic hinge. There’s nothing in particular that holds it closed. The lid has an overbite when closed. Do you have trouble with lids opening or something? It’s not really a concern that pops up here. - Sam
Just came across this video. Great video btw. Just curious how long did it take all together to cook?
@@LaloMTB29 thank you. Usually my cooks take about 24 hours. This was a while ago so I don’t remember off the top of my head exactly how long for this particular one. I always plan for a 2 hour rest too.
Can't say this test is exactly fair considering they are all different sizes
@@IThinkNowListenUp I clarified that these are the closest in size (at the time) that each manufacturer made. It’s not exactly a lab-controlled test either. It’s just a basic test to see how they perform. It’s not like any of three are bad products and they each serve their own purpose. - Sam
Thanks!
@@vyalla thank you so much! Very nice of you and it’s appreciated. Hope the video was helpful. - Sam
it was hard for you to taste the charcoal flavor because who smokes something for 15 minutes you need at least one hour of smoke
@@togetunthemood43 it was hard to taste because I grilled at a higher temp. That was the purpose. If you can taste it at a higher temp, you’ll for sure taste it at a lower temp
@@justgrillin you just a kid but you are learning...i guess lol i been cooking before you were born i came from the wood pellets only
@@togetunthemood43 I’m not disagreeing with you on the better flavor at a lower temp over a longer period of time. I’m just explaining I took a different approach to it in the video. I’m glad to hear you’ve been cooking a long time. It’s a great skill and I hope my kids take interest in learning from me how to grill.
What’s the best propane tank to get for this grill? Is there a Weber option?
@@RVS0116 just a standard 20 lbs tank wherever you’ll be able to exchange it. You’re welcome to purchase your own tank and take it to a place that fills them. But there shouldn’t be a difference between Amerigas, Blue Rhino, etc…
Do I understand it that only one model has the tank weight? I hope I’m wrong. I’m just getting ready to shop for a new grill and love that my 2010 E-310 has that feature. Thanks for the great video.
@@Bondrkmz 4 models have the tank weight scale. You can hang the tank inside the cabinet but only 4 models will tell you how much gas is left. The SX-335, E-435, S-435 and SPX-435 all have the tank scale gauge. - Sam
@@justgrillin thanks for the quick reply back. How long ago did they get rid of the standard fuel gauge? I know it wasn’t perfect, but seems like a miss to not include it anymore on the standard more affordable models.
@@Bondrkmz just this year. It was a standard feature for many years. I mention at the beginning that Weber scaled features back and part of that is to help make the price points of grills lower. Since 2021, most prices on the grills climbed a minimum of $200 to about $400 per model above current prices. To reel in the pricing this year, they choose to remove features. Quality of everything is still on par which is good. - Sam
@@justgrillin Sam, thanks for all of your help. You’ve been great. One last question, do the 2024 Genesis models have the crossover tube (hope that’s what it’s called)? I’m talking about when you fire up one burner, all the others are connected and fire up when you open the knob on each one. Yet another feature on my 2010 that I love. Thanks again
@@Bondrkmz they do not. Each burner has its own igniter. It’s been many years since a Genesis had this feature. The Spirit II’s (only one burner has the igniter) and new Summit grills have that feature.
Very Good review. Easily the most detailed on KZread I've found so far.
Very helpful, thanks!
They do seem to burn hotter but are they more efficient? Less expensive to run on a typical smoke on a low temp? How does the flavour compare to wood pellets?
Great video, watched it yesterday and ordered myself a XL today.
Just put one of these together this morning. It was a bit of a struggle by myself, I’m 66. Looks good. Can I use regular charcoal briquettes or do I need the chunk style ?
@@OldUncleMike either. It was designed to use lump but briquettes work too. Lump will be better for longer cooks.
Got one new from Lowes, $100.
You published this right after I ordered my Weber Genesis- wish I had been able to watch this first! It would have saved me hours and hours of researching the different models. I think you nailed every point, and it sounds like your customers are interested in the same things I was interested in. I absolutely wanted the integrated handle lights, sear burner, the side locker, fuel gauge, and the 9mm stainless steel grates. It had other stuff I liked but weren't deal breakers, mainly the folding warming rack. Weber seriously knocked it out of the park with the SP-E-335. I was pricing out trying to add things like the handle lights and 9mm stainless grates to a lower end model, and it just didn't work out price-wise. They added in practically everything I wanted into the special edition model at an acceptable price. If I had to guess, I bet most places are selling the special edition model more than any other, just seems to be the best value if you're in the ~$1500 bracket. Just my two cents, but to anyone who thinks they might want the integrated handle lights, it was 100% worth getting them. It has enough lighting for me to grill without needing to mess around with my headlamp. It's such a game changer for me, I feel like this should be a standard feature on every grill that isn't barebones entry-level. I simply can't go back to having to set up lighting or have a headlamp if I want to grill in the evening. I think Weber would do good to use the same base "platform" on the Genesis to allow users of even the most base model to be able to upgrade their grill, such as having the mounting holes to be able to add on the storage side locker to a base model. Obviously they could sell all these upgrades at a premium to encourage you to just buy a higher SKU from the get-go. The special edition model had basically everything I wanted regardless, so it's not affecting me, but it seems like a logical step for them. Thanks for the video. I'm not local to you guys but the content here is great.
Special Editions aren't widely available so they aren't even close to their nationwide top sellers. You may be surprised to hear this but the best selling Genesis model (nationwide) is the entry model. It's the cheapest and most widely available. Glad you found the video on par with your thoughts. The SP-E-335 is a great grill. We have a video on here that is specifically about that model. It's the 2022 version but the performance is the same. The integrated handle light really is a great feature. Enjoy the grill and have a great Independence Day holiday. Thanks for watching and the kind words. - Sam
Who nearly lost there shhh with his collar all screwed up. It literally made this impossible to watch and was an OCD nightmare.
@@drewfuerstenberger4675 take it up with Under Armour. I don’t make the clothes 🤷♂️ - Sam
There are no aromatic polymers released from burning charcoal. Burning wood does release these as well as acids, organic alcohols, as well as the creosote. I would wager if you used a brand new grill, you'd have tasted zero smoke flavour, because charcoal (especially pellets where theres no chance for there to be un-pyrolised wood elements) simply does not undergo the chemical reaction that produces these componds, but increasing your grill 100° above normal might have reawakened deposits inside the grill which imparted some flavour. Experimentally, this would be a "contaminant" - but not harmful to anything more than the outcome, during your temp test it was clear the grill area was not as pristine as the hopper. Cooking _over_ charcoal is the only way to impart the flavour, because anything that comes down off of the meat will float back up to impart those flavours from vaporising rendered fat or any other liquid the contraction of protein wrings out. These pellets are a great fuel source for high heat requirements, nothing more.
Love how methodical and comprehensive your video is. Could you please provide details on how you did the brisket thx
@@oldman0995 thank you. I smoked it at 225 the whole time. Wrapped it in butcher paper around the stall. From what I remember on this cook it stalled around 156. Put it back on til 203 internally and let it rest for two hours. Overall it was on the smoker for 24 hours. Started it around 4 PM the day before and was slicing it around 6-6:30 PM the next day. - Sam
@@justgrillinthank you for detailing the cook time. Just curious about the amount of pellets it took for this 24 hr cook? And did you have to babysit it overnight to make sure you did not have to replenish the hopper? TIA😊
Geat review. I think that I will buy one today!
I don’t like it
Nice work
How much CFM is that fan on full speed
@@mustangdbest220 1200 CFM. That’s the standard for outdoor hoods and the minimum you need for it to be effective. Sizing plays a role too in effectiveness.
@@justgrillin Woww
@@justgrillin what's the maximum CFM for an outdoor range hood
@@mustangdbest220 typically 1200 cfm fans are the standard. There could be a brand that possibly makes something stronger but I don’t know of any. 1200 CFM is more than adequate. The installation matters for effectiveness and the size of the hood does too. It also helps to have the expectation that no outdoor hood gets 100% of the smoke. Too many factors like natural drafts, gusts, wind, type of grill, etc… also play a role.
Coleman is better. It has 3 burners, 20k btus and is less money.
What brand of appliances and grill did y’all use for this outdoor kitchen?
DCS Grills and U-Line Refrigeration.
Thanks! This is the super comprehensive information that I needed to make an informed purchase. Wish I was local so that I could support your business directly with a purchase.
Thank you so much. That is super generous and very much appreciated! An educated decision usually means happy client. Support whoever is your local small business Weber partner. It’s getting increasingly harder to find independent shops like ours these days. - Sam
Why is the 9mm grill better ?
Make sure you watch our 2024 guide: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qpmi15Kaj7uzZKg.html The models with the 9MM stainless grates are better because of the grates. Weber's generous warranty on these grills does not match up with how long the PECI grates hold up. The 9MM grates are thick so they'll hold up well and are easier to care for over a 10-year period. Even the models with the 7MM grates are good but the 9MM grates are a great value. Watch the 2024 video and you'll see them compared to a grill line that starts in the $4k plus range. - Sam
The hooks are to place it on a baking tray before/after using it. Kind of like a drip tray or to protect the table/counter top from the residual heat. I saw it in another video.
Thanks for the tip! I will have to try it out and see. - Sam
Watch our 2024 Genesis Guide here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qpmi15Kaj7uzZKg.html
Watch our 2024 Genesis Guide here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qpmi15Kaj7uzZKg.html
Great video
Thank you. Hope it helped! - Sam
Excellent breakdown of the Features of these 2 units. Helps to make a decision between them. Your final "Paraphrase" sealed the deal for me. Very much appreciate the time and effort put into this particular content. I've been split between the 2 but not anymore. Then - you guys are from Tampa. I grew up there. I will have to research how the fans attach to the Vision Grill Pro S model but I'm sure somewhere there is content for that. Thanks again
You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed the video and it helped. - Sam
What was your cooking process for cooking the ribs, steaks and burgers? (i.e. temp used and duration)
Ribs I cooked for three hours total. 2 hours unwrapped at 275 F and spritzed every half hour. Wrapped in butcher paper for 1 hour at 325 F. Typically they’ll be done or close to done. Still need to use an instant read but I look for 203 internally. The steaks I cooked at 600 F the whole time until 125-130 internally. That’s if you want a really good crust on the outside. Otherwise you can slow cook them and then hit them with high heat but you won’t have as much of a harder crust. Burgers I cook at 550 F until 135 internally. - Sam
He's fabulous - I'm subscribing!
Thank you!
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