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@craigson5

3 жыл бұрын

7:17 A HONDred!

@ricardoloureiro7137

3 жыл бұрын

Craig Page iiiiiiiiiiu

@ricardoloureiro7137

3 жыл бұрын

Uuuu

@craigson5

3 жыл бұрын

@@ricardoloureiro7137 phone in your pocket?

@robb-smith6328

2 жыл бұрын

So the lotus understeers because of the light front end? Wouldn’t the Atom also suffer from the same thing? Even worse with the engine in the back?

Why eliminate the other cars though and just test them all? the radical is literally a pure bread track car so would have cleaned up on track surely?

@placesbramlepoops

3 жыл бұрын

Should have used a points system instead, would have liked to have seen the other cars on the track.

@lastdimestudios

3 жыл бұрын

They didn’t want a non road going car to win!!

@tedcalouri2694

3 жыл бұрын

@@placesbramlepoops They should have just tested them all at every test. For those of you interest in driving around cone based obstacle courses, these are the results (are ANY people interested in that?)

@mry82

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I wanted to see them all!

@siler7

3 жыл бұрын

Pure bread? I wouldn't call it part of the upper crust, but it certainly doesn't loaf about. It would have toasted the Caterham by slicing through those corners.

So after eliminating two track day cars based on stupid “tests”, you test the remaining two cars as track day cars 🙄

@RRSmurf

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah.... Common sense was absent here.

@brendangarvin7787

3 жыл бұрын

Autotest, navigating round a complex maze of cones, is a fairly popular form of motorsport.

@trevorshields7347

3 жыл бұрын

All cars should have done all tests with points, then see who had the most at the end

@kewan2045

3 жыл бұрын

Trevor Shields absolutely! I thought they had favorites. Test twice with 2 different drives

@alanhillyard1639

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, the zenos is definitely not what I would call a track day car. But I still would have liked to have seen how it fared against the other two on track. And how it would sit on the top speed actually, wonder if its actually got quite a slippery body shape comparatively...

What a completely stupid test...! Why eliminate the cars like that...? This show is stuffed...

@mry82

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I wanted to see them all!

@meinwarcrafttagebuch5142

3 жыл бұрын

@Agent exactly - when you perform a test like this then why not taking trunk volume and mpg to the test as well and then, in the end, a Golf wins. A Radical delivers on aerodynamics, it is not a drag racer. Very sad since these are all 4 very exciting cars.

@maksimhapeyenka2435

3 жыл бұрын

@@meinwarcrafttagebuch5142 agree, make it like you just give them less points and then calculate all the points, dont just disqualify

@jameswalker2116

3 жыл бұрын

Agent Coulson Only one true test 4 car race around the Nuremberg

@ericl452

3 жыл бұрын

Once the radical was out, so am I.

Love Fifth Gear. Great show. Would prefer to see all cars do all tests though.

@Da5idc

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely - they are all track day cars so we really should have seen all of them on the track

@jimknowles5483

3 жыл бұрын

Please continue with your video as done.... just please post the results of the cars you eliminated...somewhere....please We are all plainly car guys....what do you expect... Thank you.... just jim

@thatonecarguy8488

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimknowles5483 "just jim" 🤣

@jboive

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, this knockout format is pointless. Let’s see all cars thru all the tests.

@Tinei1

2 жыл бұрын

I think so too

Yea...cos when I’m picking my track car How quickly I can get it in reverse is really important 🤦‍♂️

@93455Driver

3 жыл бұрын

Alasdair Henley Exactly what I was thinking, no point in testing reverse.

@JJs_playground

3 жыл бұрын

Lol... Very good point.

@deltavee2

3 жыл бұрын

If you rally, definitely yes. I know you specified track....

@stratman9449

2 жыл бұрын

well,....have you seen the pits/garages at goodwood revival and members meetings==...could be useful to be first on the grid.....:-)

@johncunningham4820

2 жыл бұрын

More important than You seem to realise . Did you notice the Caterham's Manual Sequential was Difficult ? Known for that .

This test was a total Joke. Let me do it next time.

Who cares how long it takes to put a track day car in reverse?

@GusElliot

3 жыл бұрын

Dumb test especially when the caterham has a sequential box

Zenos wins in comfort, Radical wins in laptimes, Caterham wins in fun and the Ariel wins in this test.

the first test is basically how fast it goes into reverse.

It should have been the Radikal v Atom for the laps. Radikal is all about grip in corners.. the one they tested was the least powerful one they make. They should have used the SR3 one or whatever it’s called to balance out the power vs the others

@rotorblade9508

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, maybe they wanted something with downforce vs something without (caterham has lift)

@douglaspealing5608

3 жыл бұрын

Having driven a radikal, the grip is unbelievable. It's the only thing I've ever driven with actual downforce, and you have to change your mentality to be able to be quick. The way it just hooks up and goes is incredible.

Seeing Karun drive that Caterham was epic. Heroic.

@extreme8808

3 жыл бұрын

When you hear an F1 driver screaming "Don't bite me!" in mid-corner, that says enough 😂😂😂

@dany1441

3 жыл бұрын

@@extreme8808 More like praying! :D

@jameswalker2116

3 жыл бұрын

Unfair comparison run The test in different order you’ll end up with a different result

@93455Driver

3 жыл бұрын

james walker ? Radical aero would have won?

@jameswalker2116

3 жыл бұрын

93455Drive

It’s too bad they didn’t just start with the track test on all four cars.

You absolutely need a quick in and out a garage on a track car... Fifth gear give us a break!

That was absurd. The Radical is a pure track car and has aero so it should be quicker in the corners. As others have said - no elimination.

So u get a ex F1 driver and he's stuck on stopwatch duty? 🤣Ya love to see it

@edgimson5706

3 жыл бұрын

That's because you have a better standard of driver driving it ,in a btcc multiple champion.

Might have been good if they hadn't eliminated cars. Stupid test.

Get someone who can actually drive the Caterham properly 🤷‍♂️

Look, I enjoyed the video but imagine eliminating a decathlon athlete who specializes in later skills, because they came last in the first one...

@laurean5998

3 жыл бұрын

Especially because it was acceleration. Who cares if the radical is slower in a straight line if it is way faster in and out of the corners it can easily carry that speed and won't need to accelerate that much in the first place...

I'd be happy to have either in my garage. My head would buy the Atom, but my heart would have the 620 (in the S spec instead). Both awesome machines..........

The only time I use reverse on my Atom is to get it out of the trailer. Seriously LAME test, overall. 0 to 60 is pretty useless as well as I'm only in 1st on an outlap. Too bad they didn't test them ALL out on the track. THATS where it all matters..

I've been in love with the atom since I first saw it. I've said for years now that it's the one car that could get me to walk away from sport bikes.

You should of picked the Radical SR3 , at least . But the aero on the Radical makes it slower in the straight line. It would of beaten the rest in the track time

Why would you eliminate the Radical (the car we want to see actually on the track) BEFORE you do the track test? And seriously the cone test part is the part everyone is skipping passed, that is so irrelevant! I didn't bother watching this video to the end as the most relevant test was saved to the end with the 2 least interesting cars...

Are there similar manufacturers in the US? I’ve been working on an older Miata as a track/fun project. Any of the four in this review would better option.

Bigger question and better test is: IF you ran the same test for each car and rated from 1 - 4, which would win overall? Which car would win the complete lap race test for instance, Radical?

You really should have had all the cars compete in all the events. What a shame to not see them fully in action!

What about the bac mono? Or the vuhl? Should have been those two and the atom plus the caterham

Awsome cars.... should have just gone straight to track test. What a waste of good track cars.

You could offer Fifth Gear the chance to test the Mercedes F1 car and they'd be like: "Imma get my cones out"

The "Atom" is like a mini nuclear explosion around the circuit ...

It totally missed the vuhl 05rr, would be nice for you guys to have on a competition.

For me the First and second tests are so stupid the fist so and so but the second... you should race in the two that lost head to head it’ll be whay more interesting

Radical was screwed ever since you passed up the SR3.

Wish we could see the Zenos do the speed and track challenges

Is the caterham a little bit slimmer? That and the long nose, where it seems you can see the wheels even better and be conscious of how much space on the road you got seem like possibly that bit more fun on roads versus an atom. And of course, in all of these vs a lambo that barely fits on a mountain road

I want to see the sr1 on the track

Would have love to see the ktm x-bow in the test.

I've driven a bunch of Caterhams - and I think so have you folks surely - and that one looked uncomfortable and twitchy. I wonder if it was set up for something silly like doing donuts or drifting, and then they forgot to reset it to normal road/track use before they lent it to you? I suspect the Atom would still have won because of the mid/rear bias, but it should have been a closer race. Shame you couldn't get the Radical SR3 (rather than the SR1) for a closer contest as well. Oh well - you drive what you got.

Excellent presentation.. Guys that can Drive and Talk !

It would have been nice to also be able to compare the purchase prices of each of the models present in this test. 😉

I'd still go for the Super Seven ;-)

It would be nice to see a Factory Five 818 in that mix.

Stupid test, why not test them all.

@jameswalker2116

3 жыл бұрын

Sverigebilden and where is the KTM x bow

Somebody explain it to me: how a front/mid engined Caterham has a lighter front end than the rear/mid engined Ariel?

Not putting the radical on the road course is absolute nonsense. There are plenty of radicals in road racing and they are pretty quick though they cant compete at the top levels in places like SCCA and NASA. One thing for sure is that the Radical would blow the doors off the the Zenos and Caterhm on the road coarse. Its not even a competition. On a tight road course it should be faster than the Atom as well. There is a reason you don't see any Atoms in real road racing but you do see Radicals. This whole test was pretty lame.

Not sure what was under the hood of the Radical but if it had the original concept Hayabusa V8, that being two Suzuki heads on a custom 2.6liter V-block, the Caterham would've finished third..making 400hp normally aspirated and being the lightest powerplant by kilos and kilos. .

I have an idea: let's test four track cars, give 'm a couple of tests to see who's best and.................save the actual track test to the last??????? If it wasn't for that acceleration test I bet the Radical would have proven to be the fastest on the track, and isn't that what this test should have been about in the first place?

the Atom is the only one of these I`ve driven, but, trust me on this, it is MENTAL!

@JakobusVdL

Жыл бұрын

I've driven a Radical, and a Caterham, they're also mental.

This is the only channel which makes me sleep

That turbo stututututu sounded fantastic at 4:25

@SaintlyCrown501

3 жыл бұрын

The correct term is a Turbo Spool 🙂

@ericsson_motorsports

3 жыл бұрын

@@SaintlyCrown501 No, spool is when the turbo is sucking in air. The sound he was referring to is called turbo flutter

Would have loved to see the radical Vs the atom

Thanks!

I'd like to see them all on the track

Bac mono and caparo t1 and praga r1 and ktm xbow r are also a good track toys

Fab, thanks guys 👍

No mention of cost. What in the order of their cost?

How u not gunna have a bac mono

So, what if the Zenos was quicker in the acceleration test?... or the SR1 OR Zenos better on the track in the race? By eliminating one car after every test, you potentially skew the outcome by the order in which you decide to do the tests. I could design a test where a Land Rover would be the best "track car" over a Lamborghini, an F1 car, and a Ford F150 if elimination test #1 was an off-road challenge and elimination test #2 was a grocery run!

Caterham definitely not set up properly. Should not be all over the track like that. Tyre pressures, damper rates, anti sway bar settings?

@shaneclk9854

3 жыл бұрын

How about no downforce lol

Should've bought BAC and tested each of their's track times.

This elimination idea is horrible.. We want to see all the cars do all the tests, even if we know the outcome

I realize the Caterham was originally a Lotus, but would have been curious if you included a 3-Eleven.

with that aero package, I get the feeling that the zenos would do better on a full track

sad there is not Lotus in the test

You forgot the BAC MONO

Nice one, though I'd rather see all cars doing all the challenges. Who knows if the zenos would win all the other... Now we never will know do we...

Wish a Tracking TT01 was in this. :(

Having been on track with all three I would say the Radical is fastest by a margin, much faster corner speed. The first two tests account for aerodynamics hardly at all which is crucial at higher speeds and say little about braking. Shame they had the elimination it would have been better to see them all complete all tests to see their true strength and weakness.

Only driven the Atom and the Caterham. Like both off them, but I prefer the Caterham just because it feels so basic and primitive. Driving fast is always fun, but driving fast in a car that wants you to screw up and possibly kill you makes it truly exiting.

I'll stick with the Seven, it's simply mechanically perfect

But where is the Donkeyvoort?

You guys forgot donkervoort

"Its slippery aerodynamic body could make up for that" whilst showing a track focused, high downforce car. Which writer made Karun say this garbage? The SR1 is ANYTHING but slippery! Stupid fake drama. Who do you exactly think your audience are?

In the first “test” the driver gained more experience with the course with each pass, thus the first two cars were at a disadvantage.

I'd take the Caterham any day. Get a front splitter, use a little ballast and better tires. I dont know how good of a brand Avon is, but I'd rather have the Hankook's from the Radical SR1 or even the Toyo's from the Atom.

You guys should add the sierra rx3 or alpha to this list.

There should be tons of 50-100hp m versions mass produced as eco but fun cars,with 15-20hp electric support in the front wheels, just 4-10km pure e range. And an optional roof. Proper aero. I really don't see why even small cars weigh more than a ton.

wish the cars hadn't been knocked out. They might perform differently in different tests AND inclusion might compensate for, for example, the driver getting better at a test (e.g. the first one - which is handling / manoeuvring).

So let me get this straight. They took track focused cars which are all about downforce, braking and corner speed and tested them as if were testing go carts. If I was any of those manufacturers I would never lend a car. Next test Lamborghini aventador vs Skoda Octavia which is better backwards. Stick to racing!

@JakobusVdL

Жыл бұрын

its an auto test format. Nothing unusual in that.

All depends on your personal driving preferences. For me, I'll take the 7.

It's pretty silly to have the most relevant test as the last one when you eliminate the cars like that... I really wanted to see the Atom vs the SR1.

yea, lets remove the radical in a test where we claim to allude that decent lap times are associated with 400 meter trap speed, i would consider watching more 5th gear if you just said, it wouldnt have been fair so we sent the ringer home.

Would still take the Caterham every time. Just a magic formula. Colin Chapman's rules still apply.

They say the caterham has less front end grip because of the lack of weight in the nose. But when they tested the 911 and the 570 they said weight on the front end will tend to understeer. Genuinely confused at what weight actually does

The caterham’s reg plate looks like it says “lego cat”

my pick is the Ariel Atom, until the Ariel HyperCar comes out!

Not sure about the 'eliminating' thing but entertaining all the same. These cars are about fun and nothing else. If you have 50K to spend on a toy it has to be the Caterham. The Ariel looked just too easy. I also believe no matter if you're ex f1 or whatever. You have to have the Caterham for a good while to get to know it and get the most out of it especially the 620R which due to its power breaks tractions pretty easily. I think the 420R may have fared better in this test. The 485 seems to be the sweet spot though and if you want to see one embarrass some supercars check out this guy kzread.info/dash/bejne/doCBrJiLety9ZMo.html

All cars should do all the tests,easy be to get the answer you want when you cheat.

Bac mono???

I feel the radical would have been better in the lap battle

Brilliant!! But I would have loved to see the other cars on the track, specially the Radical because is its natural habitat! In fact I really think that it would have been faster than the Caterham , not sure about the Ariel but I think pretty close

My initial pick was the Atom.

I want to see the Radical on track, not Caterham

Too bad they didn't test all cars around race track and post times , anyways I would be more than happy to have any of these for some track fun. 👍

ah yes get in a pro racing driver to do a stopwatch

You knew which car was gonna win it all when they both wanted to drive it for the final test. Awesome video, love your work! Hope to drive one of those cars at some point.

Should have been the radical vs the atom

the radical would've been a better match on the track (and. you did kinda choose by far the LEAST powerful radical).

It isn’t about speed it is all about the fun factor